#12876 - poslundc - Sat Nov 29, 2003 6:57 am
Hey all,
My GBA project is at the point where I am looking to create a solid demo to shop around to publishers.
You can get some of the details (plus a link to an older version of the graphics engine) at http://www.danposluns.com/eod.
Sorry, no fancy website or company name just yet. This project IS happening, though. We are a small group of people, but very dedicated. Selling it is another matter, of course, but then that's why we need to create the demo. :)
Flat fee or royalties may be negotiated if and when we find a publisher. You retain the rights to your artwork, so there's no risk involved if you aren't happy with the deal. This is a springboard project, though, so it will not be a lot, and if you are in it solely for the money you will wind up very disappointed.
I also wouldn't mind some advice as to where else I might try advertising this. I have to wonder how many artists check the gbadev forums. ;)
Dan.
#12890 - Lord Graga - Sat Nov 29, 2003 7:18 pm
This is not the best place to find artists, really.
Try http://pixelation.proboards12.com, it might give better results.
just my $0.02
#12903 - poslundc - Sun Nov 30, 2003 7:17 am
Thanks for the link! Any others greatly appreciated as well!
Dan.
#13000 - mrmacabreman - Wed Dec 03, 2003 7:59 am
Dan, I have a proposition for you.
I am the production head of Evil Genius Games. I've been to your site and I am impressed. Contact me if you would like to find out some information about working on our team.
Dan Bushman
Production Head
Evil Genius Games
danbushman@eg-games.com
#13194 - TwinD - Sun Dec 07, 2003 11:22 pm
Yeah, good luck contacting him Dan... I responded to one of his ads for a programmer for their supposed promising RPG and he strung me along for weeks. Even going so far as to im me saying we'd have the "interview" that night, then he didn't say a word to me for the next four hours. Seems more and more likely the team is nothing but a joke.
#13207 - Lord Graga - Mon Dec 08, 2003 4:43 pm
It's not a joke. It has collected great pixel artists, and it seems to be more serious that you can imagine, TwinD.
#13220 - TwinD - Mon Dec 08, 2003 11:46 pm
| Lord Graga wrote: |
| It's not a joke. It has collected great pixel artists, and it seems to be more serious that you can imagine, TwinD. |
That is by far the funniest thing I've ever read on here. Great pixel artists does not a good game make.
#13242 - Lord Graga - Tue Dec 09, 2003 7:11 pm
#13249 - TwinD - Wed Dec 10, 2003 12:48 am
eh... after reading it over i do take back what i said to some degree, they are very professional, my main point was the way that Dan strung me along for weeks at a time making it sound like I'd soon be a part of the project. Ah well, I'm near finished my GBA RPG engine now anyways.
#13257 - poslundc - Wed Dec 10, 2003 1:51 am
I don't speak on behalf of Dan Bushman or Evil Genius Games, so I can't really comment, except to say that he has eventually (albeit slowly) responded to my e-mails, so his organization strikes me as most likely being homebrew with a lot of other stuff on their plate, which is something I can relate to since I am in the same boat with my production.
In any case, I don't personally believe that fancy websites or official-sounding names are what make a game, although they may have an eventual impact on being published. (Which is why right now I don't have any of that stuff for my game... it'll come when I'm closer to finishing the demo.) So you can rest assured that that aspect of Evil Genius Games hasn't affected my judgement at all; I'm treating them the way I would any other homebrew developer.
In sum, I think my main reason for posting this was so that people wouldn't confuse me (Dan Posluns, and starter of this thread) with Evil Genius Games (Dan Bushman, who is the one being alternately accused and defended). Not that I have anything against them, and in fact I hope to collaborate with them at some point in the future; I just desire to preemptively avoid any unintentional slander of my production. :)
Dan.
#13267 - mrmacabreman - Wed Dec 10, 2003 6:48 am
| TwinD wrote: |
| Lord Graga wrote: | | It's not a joke. It has collected great pixel artists, and it seems to be more serious that you can imagine, TwinD. |
That is by far the funniest thing I've ever read on here. Great pixel artists does not a good game make. |
A couple of things regarding this debate that I have been missing, heh.
First, I agree that great pixel art does not make a great game or great development team. I will say that if you go to pixelation or some other such forum where they hear programmer and production heads pleas for help constantly, and you can only offer royalties and walk away with ONE good sprite artist, it says something about commitment and the quality of your game. Period. I have brought together serveral extemely talented pixel artists for this project: st0ven, Emlan and Scuba Steve. If you have been to pixelation, you know who they are.
These are not the only talented people on the team, and all are working because they have confidence in the project. That doesn't some from me blowing smoke.
Secondly, I would personally like to apologize to you TwinD, as the reasons for the "stringing along" as you put it were two-fold, but ultimately my fault. The sins of a first time production lead trying to keep his head on straight and above water. I've got a much better handle on things now. If you ever need help (pixel art, music, web space) I would be more than willing to lend a hand as a peace offering, just e-mail me at danbushman@eg-games.com and I will get back to you as soon as I can, and that's the truth.
Also, Dan, I think your description of why it sometimes takes a while for me to respond is dead on. I literally get 30+ e-mails a day asking questions about the game, how to start your own team, applications and such. It takes some time to sort through it all and respond, esp. since I am in grad school and have a full time job. Have you responded to my last e-mail I wonder?
anyway, cheers
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#13268 - TwinD - Wed Dec 10, 2003 7:03 am
Yeah, I was just being a dickhead. I've registered on your forums as I do think you have a good head on your shoulders about all of this. I'll probably loosely try to stay in contact with your group as I like your idea to more or less bring the indy developers together. God knows I have no doubt my engine is good, and that the story will be great and the game will be good, but I do think it's near impossible for me to find a good artist without some sort of good word... (as when you posted on pixelation you were able to say you had Stoven who is very well respected)... Anyways, sorry about 'thread crapping' more or less.
#13270 - mrmacabreman - Wed Dec 10, 2003 7:55 am
No problem TwinD, keep in touch via the forums if nothing else.
Damn, there I go again...just noticed I posted the wrong e-mail address. My old one was mrmacabreman@yahoo.com and my new one is danbushman@eg-games.com ....sorry for the mix-up, and I have edited the original posting
#13299 - poslundc - Wed Dec 10, 2003 9:50 pm
| mrmacabreman wrote: |
| Have you responded to my last e-mail I wonder? |
On the off-chance this isn't a rhetorical question, I have indeed... check your inbox, it's been there a little while now. :)
Dan (although it probably was).
#13318 - mrmacabreman - Thu Dec 11, 2003 3:35 am
Hey Dan,
I have to call my server admin...something screwy is going on with the mail system. Your e-mail went to Mike Reilly's (engine designer) mailbox.
I'll reply when I get back home tonight.
Dan Bushman