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Flash Equipment > Looking for blank one time use carts

#72803 - h2oski2liv - Tue Feb 21, 2006 9:52 pm

Hi,

I was wondering if anyone knows where you can find blank one time use carts (like Simon was using to burn peoples games), or who gbadev used to produce its carts.

Thanks

#76473 - Crs - Wed Mar 22, 2006 1:00 am

Hiya h2oski2liv,

Did you have any luck with locating any more information? I am also interested in blank once-write carts.

Chris.

#76708 - Lynx - Thu Mar 23, 2006 8:12 pm

I believe SimonB will still burn Flash Carts for you.. PM him. If you are looking to purchase the burning hardware and carts, then post updated information when you figure it out, I wouldn't mind knowing either. :)

#76714 - SimonB - Thu Mar 23, 2006 9:24 pm

Sorry, as previously stated I have no carts left and no way to get more.

Simon

#76716 - tepples - Thu Mar 23, 2006 9:26 pm

How did you get the first run of them? Or is that confidential?
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#77188 - h2oski2liv - Wed Mar 29, 2006 3:40 am

Crs wrote:
Hiya h2oski2liv,

Did you have any luck with locating any more information? I am also interested in blank once-write carts.

Chris.


No luck yet.

#77780 - Crs - Sun Apr 02, 2006 11:58 pm

h2oski2liv, if it helps I have found somewhere that does 64Mb carts for just under ?10 each (including postage) - I couldnt find any as low as 32Mb :(. They are re-writable unfortunately - and you also need to buy a parallel linker cable for around ?5.

I'll PM you the link if you are interested, (not sure if I can advertise other sites here)

#77785 - tepples - Mon Apr 03, 2006 12:05 am

Crs wrote:
I have found somewhere that does 64Mb carts for just under ?10 each (including postage) [...] (not sure if I can advertise other sites here)

You can advertise in at least Buy & Sell. If you have no financial interest in the store's operation, you can probably tell us about it anywhere.
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#77961 - h2oski2liv - Tue Apr 04, 2006 6:48 am

Crs wrote:
h2oski2liv, if it helps I have found somewhere that does 64Mb carts for just under ?10 each (including postage) - I couldnt find any as low as 32Mb :(. They are re-writable unfortunately - and you also need to buy a parallel linker cable for around ?5.

I'll PM you the link if you are interested, (not sure if I can advertise other sites here)


If you could post or PM me the link that'd be great.

#78289 - Crs - Thu Apr 06, 2006 2:23 pm

in that case, it is [Warez URL removed by MOD]

The postage is from hongkong and it was really fast, less than a week.

I also re-printed some labels and stuck them on, but you can get an idea of how they look from my site

#78292 - gauauu - Thu Apr 06, 2006 3:35 pm

Looking at that site, I don't see the carts you are talking about.....are they gone now, or am I just stupid? Smallest I see is a 128.

#78310 - Crs - Thu Apr 06, 2006 5:36 pm

No it isn't listed on the site - I just contacted the guy directly and asked what the smallest cart available is.
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#78316 - SimonB - Thu Apr 06, 2006 6:44 pm

Crs wrote:
not sure if I can advertise other sites here


You are allowed to tell people about other sites here, but not those with links to warez (in this case, DS games). It also seems fishy that they are selling homebrew games...hopefully all the original developers have given them the permission to do that.

Simon

#78917 - Stealth404 - Mon Apr 10, 2006 4:31 pm

It would be cool to get a hold of inexpensive one time burn cartridges, if anyone finds anything at all, either post it here or pm me. Greatly appreciated

#79029 - gauauu - Tue Apr 11, 2006 4:43 am

Ok, I'm in discussion with someone about the possibility of low-cost, low-capacity flash carts (like 32 mb).

If they were below $15 us, and I made a bulk order, who would be interested in purchasing some, and how many, approximately, would you want to purchase?

They'd still be rewritable, like any other flash cart, but cheap enough that it would be realistic to use them to distribute your games.

(I'm not holding you to this now, just want to get an estimate)

#79084 - KeithE - Tue Apr 11, 2006 3:00 pm

I'd probably buy around 10 of them. If you can, it would be great to have the option of 32 or 64 mb, with different prices of course.

#79369 - Slosha - Thu Apr 13, 2006 6:41 am

wow this seams liek an awesome idea... that is of course if you mean DS flash carts and not GBA flash carts. So we would be able to put stuff like ummmmm dslinux on a cart and then just play it like any old DS game? THAT WOULD BE SOOOO TIGHT..... too bad i just bought all my passme stuff...:(... i'd buy like 10..... probably 32mb but i dont really know how big homebrew files can get). If this becomes a business, though, a lot of passmes and other things will be put outa business.... or not, i dunno.

#79372 - gauauu - Thu Apr 13, 2006 7:21 am

Umm, I mean gba carts.

#79439 - Lynx - Thu Apr 13, 2006 6:18 pm

1) Do they support SRAM
2) Do they come with a linker and software

If so, PM me.

#79441 - sumiguchi - Thu Apr 13, 2006 6:26 pm

I would also be interested in about 10 if they have SRAM and come with at least one linker.

#79515 - gauauu - Fri Apr 14, 2006 2:34 am

Nothing definite yet, but I'm assuming that:

1. they have sram
2. they won't each come with a linker (to save per unit costs), but can buy the linkers separately.

Of course, those assumptions may be totally wrong, but that's just a guess for now.

#79534 - Slosha - Fri Apr 14, 2006 5:11 am

awww.... it would be 10 times better if you could buy blank DS flash carts and just save homebrew and stuff on them instead of using a passme/m3 type combo... :(.... but i guess u could jsut use a passme and a GBA cart and it would be the same as a DS cart....

(and maybe they could make GBA carts to fit nicely in DS Lites?)

#79989 - Fenderocker - Mon Apr 17, 2006 11:51 pm

Slosha wrote:
awww.... it would be 10 times better if you could buy blank DS flash carts and just save homebrew and stuff on them instead of using a passme/m3 type combo... :(.... but i guess u could jsut use a passme and a GBA cart and it would be the same as a DS cart....

(and maybe they could make GBA carts to fit nicely in DS Lites?)


Just so you know, DS games have a some kind of code that's specific to each game and that is very hard to crack, (at least that's what I've heard) It won't be for a long time, or never that someone can make a DS flash cart.

Anyway, I would also be interested in a about 10 small one time right carts that I could give to my friends.

#80066 - Lynx - Tue Apr 18, 2006 2:56 pm

Uhh... the code has already been cracked.. and you wouldn't need to crack it for each game if it was specific anyway, as you would just tell all your homebrew devices to use the code of one specific game. The "lack of interest" in an NDS flash cart (In my opionion) is because of two major issues. 1) it most likely won't be nice and neat, and fit into the DS slot without sticking out. 2) all major hardware providers already have GBA Flashcarts and have done the major work of developing them. So, why take on the expense to develope something that isn't really needed? Which would you buy:

1) NoPass + GBA Flash Cart (Both that fit perfect into their slots) = $80
2) NDS Flash Cart (that sticks out) = $300

As, most of us already have GBA Flash Carts, the real $ = $20 for the NoPass and we use the hardware we already spent a lot of money on.

#80100 - tepples - Tue Apr 18, 2006 8:04 pm

Lynx wrote:
So, why take on the expense to develope something that isn't really needed? Which would you buy:

1) NoPass + GBA Flash Cart (Both that fit perfect into their slots) = $80
2) NDS Flash Cart (that sticks out) = $300

Would NoPass + GBA Flash Cart allow one to use GBA-slot Option Paks such as the Rumble Pak while streaming data from a card in the GBA slot?

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As, most of us already have GBA Flash Carts

Define "us". Which of the following do you mean?
  1. People who read the [GBA] Flash Equipment forum
  2. People who post to the [GBA] Flash Equipment forum
  3. People who read the DS Flash Equipment forum
  4. People who post to the DS Flash Equipment forum
There's likely a huge difference, as in DS Flash Equipment I see a lot of SC vs. M3 debates and gripes that even the SC is expensive. A lot of people posting there have never owned a Nintendo handheld system before the DS.

(Splitting Slosha's DS specific thread...)
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#82136 - Lini - Thu May 04, 2006 4:06 am

I'd probably buy about 10, if they came with just one linker. I'm working on a Pixelships clone on the GBA and have some friends who are interested in it.

I suppose I could always get them to buy their own flash cart...

#82218 - Lynx - Thu May 04, 2006 4:36 pm

I don't know how I missed this reply.

tepples wrote:
Would NoPass + GBA Flash Cart allow one to use GBA-slot Option Paks such as the Rumble Pak while streaming data from a card in the GBA slot?


Hmm.. Yeah.. your right. There are SO many hombrew out there that stream from the GBA slot that it would really be worth spending 5 x the money for option pak support.


Quote:
Define "us". Which of the following do you mean?


None.. If I'm defining "us".. then "us" = people with flash carts. :) Otherwise, people interested in devoping and playing homebrew.

But, on a serious note.. Answer this question honestly, from your personal opinion.

Which would you buy?
1) NoPass ($20) + GBA MP ($20) + 256MB CF/SD ($20) = $60
2) NoPass ($20) + GBA Flash Cart 256Mb ($60) = $80
3) NoPass ($20) + SC ($40) + 256MB CF/SD ($20) = $80
or
and of course, I have to make up the price, as it isn't available
4) NDS Flash Cart = $300

And, do you think guessing at $300 is an extreme over price? Seeing what some companies charged for option 2 with a PassMe instead of a NoPass.

#82224 - drenehtsral - Thu May 04, 2006 4:54 pm

I'd spring for some (maybe 10 or so) small cartridges, either flash or OTP. All I really need is 8MB of "rom" and a small amount of battery-backed SRAM (I actually use only the first 1kB).

If anybody finds a source, I'd be excited.

#85547 - Jinroh - Wed May 31, 2006 5:22 pm

I'd be up for about 5 to 10 one time use carts. 32MB would be Plenty.

Keep me posted.
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#85551 - zzo38computer - Wed May 31, 2006 6:07 pm

Some people say that Datel Media Launcher cards may be re-writable, but I'm not sure yet.
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#85560 - ScottLininger - Wed May 31, 2006 6:51 pm

I'd commit to at least 50 of them.

PM me or email if you want to coordinate.

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#85829 - gauauu - Fri Jun 02, 2006 2:17 pm

Well, my first plan didn't work out. I had found a small vendor selling them (couldn't figure out their source) in a market in Shenzhen for dirt cheap ($10 USD for a 128 mbit cart).

So I was going to set up with them to buy a bunch at a discount...but after a lot of experimenting, we (including with the help of the shopkeepers) could never manage to write anything successfully to them (no wonder they were cheap).

So that's right out.

#114500 - JessTicular - Mon Jan 08, 2007 2:07 pm

As for Write-Once DS carts, where are the developers and sellers of the No-Pass devices getting their carts made and written?
It would be a bit expensive for each company to be doing it in-house considering some are as low as $20US now.

Getting hold of these carts, along with the actual NoPass software would be perfect - It'd be a self-contained cartridge that will run in an un-modded DS without the need for any extra Pass devices.

Any ideas?

PS - I realize this thread is quite old, but I figured it'd be best to ask the question here than start a new thread :)
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#114532 - Lynx - Mon Jan 08, 2007 9:02 pm

Well, if you are talking about the commercial DS game carts, I'm sure they are through Nintendo and you'd have to be liscensed to purchase them. The Slot-1 devices that are available aren't write once and use costly hardware.

But, I don't know why somebody couldn't take a write once chip+the cart encryption routine (which hasn't been used by anyone in the homebrew community yet) and put them together for a pretty cheap solution.
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#114570 - PhoenixSoft - Tue Jan 09, 2007 1:22 am

I heard the DS-Xtreme uses an FPGA, not sure if it's true or not.

#114575 - Lynx - Tue Jan 09, 2007 3:22 am

Probably for the authentcation, but it must have flash to write your game to, and FPGA isn't write once. Only real reason for write once would be price. how much is a 32MB FPGA? :) So, if you choose FPGA for the authentication, you'd then use the cheapest 32MB EPROM you can find to hold the actual data. I really don't know why someone hasn't already done this.
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