#121975 - shaw020 - Fri Mar 16, 2007 2:25 am
I don't have any money and I was wondering if there was anyway that I could turn my old DS into an MP3 player. I am not a computer person so I need instructions that are simple to understand and follow. I do have a laptop and wireless router. Please Help.
#121977 - dantheman - Fri Mar 16, 2007 2:59 am
As I told you in your other post, you will have to spend money in some form or fashion. Exactly where did you plan to store your music after all?
#121983 - Darksavior - Fri Mar 16, 2007 3:36 am
It will cost you money. No way around it. A decent amount. $40-50 for an R4 Slot1 + $10 for a 1gb microsd card. There might be better deals if you search.
If you're really hard on cash, a DS as an mp3 alternative is not for you.
www.frys.com has an Emprex mp3 player for $10. Then buy an SD card for it.
#121993 - OOPMan - Fri Mar 16, 2007 7:49 am
A guess we have Pop Sci to blame for this one, eh?
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#122003 - NorQue - Fri Mar 16, 2007 9:50 am
Why didn't they also mention that the DS is only capable of 32 kHz output and, while playing MP3s on it is nice for novelty value, it is a very poor substitute for a real mp3 player?
#122026 - dantheman - Fri Mar 16, 2007 3:53 pm
For those without an mp3 player to begin with, it's not just a novelty item. I use it pretty much each day so that I don't have to carry around my bulky CD player (though admittedly I could fit much more music on mp3 CDs that way).
Prior to this, I used the GBA GSM Player as my primary music source. While not mp3 quality, it was good enough for the noisy situations I used it in.
#122090 - josath - Fri Mar 16, 2007 11:26 pm
| NorQue wrote: |
| Why didn't they also mention that the DS is only capable of 32 kHz output and, while playing MP3s on it is nice for novelty value, it is a very poor substitute for a real mp3 player? |
As compared to the 128kbit songs from itunes? people are already used to listening to degraded (compared to original CD) audio.
#122128 - tepples - Sat Mar 17, 2007 4:25 am
| NorQue wrote: |
| Why didn't they also mention that the DS is only capable of 32 kHz output and, while playing MP3s on it is nice for novelty value, it is a very poor substitute for a real mp3 player? |
In theory, 32768 Hz is all you need. A 32768 Hz sample sequence can reproduce frequencies from DC to 16383 Hz, and for adult listeners and typical music signals, the energy in 8192-15000 Hz will mask anything in 16384-22049 Hz.
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#122191 - HyperHacker - Sat Mar 17, 2007 8:13 pm
It sounds just fine to me, and I have pretty sensitive ears. It could be better, but that doesn't mean it's not good.
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#122193 - tepples - Sat Mar 17, 2007 8:18 pm
The problem with the DS audio output is not the frequency as much as the depth. There are only ten bits per sample, for a noise floor of -60 dB. If I don't use heavy compression on classical music, I get all sorts of hiss in the quiet parts.
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#122206 - HyperHacker - Sat Mar 17, 2007 9:23 pm
Maybe we could hook up a headphone jack and DAC to the GBA port? ;-)
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#122217 - tepples - Sat Mar 17, 2007 10:10 pm
Play-Yan did exactly that.
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#122259 - HyperHacker - Sun Mar 18, 2007 5:05 am
I thought Play-Yan had a hardware MPEG decoder and just connected the jack to that?
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#122300 - NorQue - Sun Mar 18, 2007 3:24 pm
| tepples wrote: |
| If I don't use heavy compression on classical music, I get all sorts of hiss in the quiet parts. |
I thought that hiss came from the sampling frequency. You learn new things everyday.
Anyways, aren't you annoyed by it? I seriously am - after I noticed it the first time I couldn't overhear it anymore. It's like a bad Vietnam memory that's always coming back ;) .
#122309 - tepples - Sun Mar 18, 2007 5:12 pm
A little illustration: Play the hiss and compare the result in Winamp (or some other PC based player) to the result in MoonShell and DSOrganize.
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#122430 - OOPMan - Mon Mar 19, 2007 8:11 am
| NorQue wrote: |
| Why didn't they also mention that the DS is only capable of 32 kHz output and, while playing MP3s on it is nice for novelty value, it is a very poor substitute for a real mp3 player? |
Hehehe, I guess I'm not an audiophile, since I find stuff on my DS sounds just fine when played with a nice pair of headphones :-)
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