#125266 - stampede_dude - Thu Apr 12, 2007 2:06 pm
I was wondering...When playing a game with my GBAMP, I have noticed lagging in both the games I have tried, both patched. My Max Media Player does not do this. I have a 2GB CF in my Max Media Player, and only a 32MB in my GBAMP. Is the size difference affecting my read speed so much as to where lagging occours?
Thanks,
Brandon
#125271 - OOPMan - Thu Apr 12, 2007 2:36 pm
Could you try and be a little more clear about what you're trying to run?
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#125272 - Lynx - Thu Apr 12, 2007 3:09 pm
I think I can clear it up.. Since pretty much ALL homebrew loads into RAM, there won't be any lagging... So, what does that leave? Oh yeah.. Illegally downloaded warez romz... Buy the game and you won't have any lag.
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#125281 - tepples - Thu Apr 12, 2007 3:31 pm
| Lynx wrote: |
| I think I can clear it up.. Since pretty much ALL homebrew loads into RAM, there won't be any lagging... So, what does that leave? Oh yeah.. Illegally downloaded warez romz... Buy the game and you won't have any lag. |
OK, so I've bought Descent or Quake. Now how do I run these source ports without them lagging? Or should I buy a laptop instead?
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#125291 - dantheman - Thu Apr 12, 2007 3:55 pm
Like tepples stated, other files accessed by the .nds program can be larger than 4 MB (for instance, running a 10 MB mp3 file from Moonshell), so perhaps if the card speed is slow, lagging could occur.
Have you tried swapping the cards? Or just using a completely different CF card for your GBAMP? It could be the device or it could be the card or it could be faulty programming of some sort, but until we isolate the problem it will be hard to fix.
#125302 - stampede_dude - Thu Apr 12, 2007 4:37 pm
| Lynx wrote: |
| I think I can clear it up.. Since pretty much ALL homebrew loads into RAM, there won't be any lagging... So, what does that leave? Oh yeah.. Illegally downloaded warez romz... Buy the game and you won't have any lag. |
For your information, I was running DScent and Doom for DS. Two games that are very well above the NDS's 4mb of ram with all the included files. You need to pull the stick out of your ass. Thank you Dan for your help, I am going to try a 256mb card. I thought it was impossible to run commercial roms on the GBAMP, but since you jumped straight to piracy, I suppose you know how to get around that little flaw? Apparently you do, or else you're misinformed about what I'm talking about. And by the way, what commercial games use DLDI patching? That's what I thought.
#125324 - Lick - Thu Apr 12, 2007 5:46 pm
You can't blame a man for presuming you knew nothing about homebrew and simply meant "backups". I mean, read your original post. No game-title mentioned nor any other indication of homebrew involvement.
So in defense of Lynx, I'd say this was a rather unfortunate misunderstanding. =)
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#125326 - tepples - Thu Apr 12, 2007 5:54 pm
Now we see why I tend to give the benefit of the doubt. (That, and last time I failed to give the benefit of the doubt, someone reported me to an admin.)
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#125344 - simonjhall - Thu Apr 12, 2007 6:54 pm
Yeah, I guess you got a good point there! I spose we just all get a bit bored of hearing from people who sign up to the forums just to make a "why can't I get game X I downloaded from bittorrent to run" post...
Oh and,
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| OK, so I've bought Descent or Quake. Now how do I run these source ports without them lagging |
Woh, woh, woh. Careful what you say about that game ;-)
But anyway, what stuff are you finding lagging? My gbamp is my favourite flash card and I'm finding it *very* non-laggy. It could be your CF card?
EDIT: just read the OP's post :-) What happens when you use the 2GB card in your gbamp? Or have you bought an SD gbamp? :-S
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#125355 - stampede_dude - Thu Apr 12, 2007 7:30 pm
I have a GBAMP CF version. With both Doom for Ds and DScent, game lag is experienced momentarily every 10 seconds or so. It's not much, just enough to get annoying. I treid a 25Mb card, but it was only a 4X. When I get home I will try a 2GB in the GBAMP. Thanks guys!
#125401 - HyperHacker - Fri Apr 13, 2007 3:09 am
You probably have a slow CF card. For it to be 32MB it must be fairly old, so it's presumably not as fast as newer cards.
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#125406 - stampede_dude - Fri Apr 13, 2007 3:21 am
Yeah, they are from 1999. I tried a 2GB card and it works just as good if not better than my Max Media Player.
#125414 - chishm - Fri Apr 13, 2007 4:08 am
All Compact-Flash-based Slot-2 cards directly interface the CF card to the GBA bus. For all such devices, the only limiting factors are the speed of the CF card and the speed of the GBA bus.
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#125435 - OOPMan - Fri Apr 13, 2007 8:51 am
| stampede_dude wrote: |
| Lynx wrote: | | I think I can clear it up.. Since pretty much ALL homebrew loads into RAM, there won't be any lagging... So, what does that leave? Oh yeah.. Illegally downloaded warez romz... Buy the game and you won't have any lag. |
For your information, I was running DScent and Doom for DS. Two games that are very well above the NDS's 4mb of ram with all the included files. You need to pull the stick out of your ass. Thank you Dan for your help, I am going to try a 256mb card. I thought it was impossible to run commercial roms on the GBAMP, but since you jumped straight to piracy, I suppose you know how to get around that little flaw? Apparently you do, or else you're misinformed about what I'm talking about. And by the way, what commercial games use DLDI patching? That's what I thought. |
Hehehe, the part about the GBAMP was actually the reason why I asked you to give us more info, rather than assume you were a pirate monkey (Although that was my initial impression...)
DoomDS doesn't always run fast because the engine hasn't been ultra-optimised for the DS. The frame-rate can be rather variable.
DScent is pretty new, so I'd expect the frame-rate to improve with releases...
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#125488 - Lynx - Fri Apr 13, 2007 10:13 pm
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| I suppose you know how to get around that little flaw? Apparently you do, or else you're misinformed about what I'm talking about. And by the way, what commercial games use DLDI patching? That's what I thought. |
1) it's been known that the GBA MP can run commercial romz for.. oh.. what? 2 months after Chishm released the firmware patch? He did it just to prove that CF isn't to slow, and that it could be done. He never released it, but others have released their own patchers..
2) Where in your original post do you even mention DLDI? So, normally when someone mentions patching.. they aren't talking about DLDI.
I appologize for assuming you were talking about illegally downloaded warez romz, but 9 times out of 10, that is what people are talking about.
I played DSdoom downloaded from DSOrganize homebrew database (shareware .wad?) and haven't seen any lag..
Also, when you play >4MB MP3s, do you here any lag?
I don't have any problems with my 2GB CF card in my GBA MP..
EDIT: Thanks lick.. :)
Tepples.. Let the admins try modding the board 24x7.. it's not easy.. and if you only have 1 person complaining.. your not strict enough.. ;)
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#125495 - dantheman - Fri Apr 13, 2007 10:57 pm
| Lynx wrote: |
| 2) Where in your original post do you even mention DLDI? So, normally when someone mentions patching.. they aren't talking about DLDI. |
In the title.
#125531 - Lynx - Sat Apr 14, 2007 6:21 am
That's not the original title. Nice change though..
"Gee.. I guess Lynx can't even read! What a dumbass!"
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#125533 - tepples - Sat Apr 14, 2007 6:47 am
At least when I edit a subject, I leave a note in the edited text.
But that's beside the point. Perhaps flash access times were slow when 32 MB cards were popular. You might want to boot your GBAMP into GBA mode and run speed tester. Report your results for 512 byte and 4 KiB tests here. If they're too long, it may be time to get a new 1 GB card from $office_supply_store.
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#125537 - HyperHacker - Sat Apr 14, 2007 8:23 am
For the record, I don't remember seeing any other title.
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#125561 - stampede_dude - Sat Apr 14, 2007 2:57 pm
Oh my God...I edited my response, but never my original post...you need to get a life man.
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#125566 - stampede_dude - Sat Apr 14, 2007 5:10 pm
I guess I stumped you both there, lynx and tepples. BTW, can't moderators check if a post has been edited? Or at least admins can? Go ahead, and check my first post. Never edited. You can kiss my ass, as far as I'm concerned. Lynx, all you do is go around accusing people of being pirates, and then when you were proven wrong, you keep trying to make yourself look correct, when all you do is prove yourself more wrong and make yourself look more like a dumbass. You further try to prove that I am pirating commercial games but if you had half a lick of sense you would have known that I spent most of a whole day getting videos up of myself playing DScent.
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#125569 - tepples - Sat Apr 14, 2007 6:31 pm
| stampede_dude wrote: |
| BTW, can't moderators check if a post has been edited? |
Any user can see if a post has been edited by the original poster, but not by a moderator unless the moderator leaves a message at the bottom of the edited post (like I do when "subject line fairy" visits articles). As a moderator, I don't see any additional message for posts edited by a moderator either. Nor do I know whether admins can see whether a moderator has edited a post.
(desperately trying to swing this thread back to topic)
stampede_dude: How fast does your 32 MB card run the sequential tests in speed tester?
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#125586 - Neil - Sat Apr 14, 2007 9:21 pm
| Lynx wrote: |
That's not the original title. Nice change though..
"Gee.. I guess Lynx can't even read! What a dumbass!" |
It almost certainly is the original title, in fact. If he'd changed it after your response on page 1, then there would have been a message pointing out the time and date of his edit. If he'd changed it within the half hour period between his post and the first reply, then the edit wouldn't be flagged. In other words, edits to posts that have been made after subsequent posts have been entered will be flagged by the phpbb software.
#125596 - stampede_dude - Sat Apr 14, 2007 11:12 pm
He's been here already. I guess he's too ashamed to admit he was wrong.
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#125601 - Dood77 - Sun Apr 15, 2007 12:13 am
More like he just doesn't want to add to the flame war. Drop it both of you.
#125620 - chishm - Sun Apr 15, 2007 4:12 am
Lynx was wrong in this case, and I'm sure he'll learn not to jump to conclusions so quickly in the future. However, I can see why he did. These boards have a habit of attracting people that just want to run pirate ROMs, which is not what we (the members of this board) are here for. Perhaps you could show him a reason to give people the benefit of the doubt by doing the same for him.
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#125622 - stampede_dude - Sun Apr 15, 2007 4:42 am
Ok, sorry lynx.
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#125750 - Lynx - Mon Apr 16, 2007 5:17 pm
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| He's been here already. I guess he's too ashamed to admit he was wrong. |
I'm just now reading this..
Sorry, I didn't mean it to become a huge issue.. I might have gotten it confused with this topic:
http://forum.gbadev.org/viewtopic.php?t=12862
I've been known to cross post topics in the past because I get carried way opening tabs.
So, apparently I didn't read the topic.. I am fully at fault, and I accept all responsiblity for my mistakes. Sorry I thought stampede_dude was a pirate because I didn't read the topic. I am a dumbass.
EDIT: I try not to give a crap about pirating.. but it's hard for me.. cut me some slack.
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