#28346 - Fleet-C - Fri Oct 29, 2004 11:42 pm
Someone at the beyond3d forums posted the prices for some Dev kits for research purposes (like universities)
Playstation 2 Development Kit: 13.000? (2004 AND 2005)
Nintendo Gamecube Development Kit: 14.000? (2004 AND 2005)
Microsoft XBOX Development Kit: 4.000? (2004 AND 2005)
Nintendo Game Boy Advance Development Kit: 1.000? (2004), FREE (2005)
Nintendo DS Development Kit: UNAVAILABLE (2004), 7.000? (Q1 2005)
#28354 - Touchstone - Sat Oct 30, 2004 2:15 am
I want a free agb devkit! :-) How can I get one?
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#28362 - Abscissa - Sat Oct 30, 2004 4:00 am
| Touchstone wrote: |
| I want a free agb devkit! :-) How can I get one? |
Become head of a computer science department, it sounds like ;)
Although considering what I've heared about the official gba devkit, I'm happy with the unofficial stuff I'm using now. You know that a lot of those official console devkits use CodeWarrior as their IDE? Ick!
But, at the same time...mmm...official dev kits...drool... ;)
#28388 - Touchstone - Sat Oct 30, 2004 5:41 pm
There are two devkits afaik. Nintendos and SN Systems. CodeWarrior is an "enhancement" to the Nintendo kit wheres SN Systems is compiler aswell as hardware stuff.
I actually like the official stuff, but that's probably because of the fond memories of when I first used one, some three-four years ago, rather than because it's so wonderfull to work with. :)
I only want the official devkit because of the extremely cool gray cartridge-emulator hooked up to an SP. (Unless it's TS2 boards they give away for free :) I think most emulators with their tile viewers and what-not is a much better development tool, but still.... Drool! =)
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#28390 - dagamer34 - Sat Oct 30, 2004 6:23 pm
Besides the official documents (which are available illegally somewhere)everything else we pretty mcuh already have.
However, with the GBA devkits being "free" now, either Nintendo is pulling all the stops it can on the DS or it has something else in the works in the near future.
I wonder why Xbox dev kits are so cheap compared to the other 2 systems. And it's not exactly a good that that Nintendo's devkit for the GCN is the most expensive of the 3 systems...
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#28399 - DiscoStew - Sat Oct 30, 2004 11:59 pm
| dagamer wrote: |
| I wonder why Xbox dev kits are so cheap compared to the other 2 systems |
Isn't the XBox using a form of the Windows 2000 kernal and also DirectX? Since the DirectX SDK is available free to anyone on a PC, I would believe that for the XBox the same is set, which would decrease the price for devkits. Or, since MS has so much money, it probably wouldn't hurt them much to sell devkits cheaper anyways.
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#28404 - PhoenixSoft - Sun Oct 31, 2004 1:42 am
| DiscoStew wrote: |
| dagamer wrote: | | I wonder why Xbox dev kits are so cheap compared to the other 2 systems |
Isn't the XBox using a form of the Windows 2000 kernal and also DirectX? Since the DirectX SDK is available free to anyone on a PC, I would believe that for the XBox the same is set, which would decrease the price for devkits. Or, since MS has so much money, it probably wouldn't hurt them much to sell devkits cheaper anyways. |
The Xbox dev kit is apparently just an Xbox with some debug ports and a special bios (and of course the XDK software).
#28407 - Touchstone - Sun Oct 31, 2004 2:15 am
| PhoenixSoft wrote: |
| The Xbox dev kit is apparently just an Xbox with some debug ports and a special bios (and of course the XDK software). |
And about double the amount of RAM of a regular Xbox.
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#28419 - Abscissa - Sun Oct 31, 2004 4:57 am
| PhoenixSoft wrote: |
| DiscoStew wrote: | | dagamer wrote: | | I wonder why Xbox dev kits are so cheap compared to the other 2 systems |
Isn't the XBox using a form of the Windows 2000 kernal and also DirectX? Since the DirectX SDK is available free to anyone on a PC, I would believe that for the XBox the same is set, which would decrease the price for devkits. Or, since MS has so much money, it probably wouldn't hurt them much to sell devkits cheaper anyways. |
The Xbox dev kit is apparently just an Xbox with some debug ports and a special bios (and of course the XDK software). |
Isn't that more or less what any dev kit is? Along with some docs.
#28842 - Steve++ - Sun Nov 07, 2004 4:20 pm
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| The Xbox dev kit is apparently just an Xbox with some debug ports and a special bios (and of course the XDK software). |
The price probably doesn't include Microsoft Visual C++ Professional Edition.
#28845 - tepples - Sun Nov 07, 2004 4:57 pm
In response to firms jumping ship to MinGW, Microsoft has since changed its policy such that the Visual C++ command-line optimizing compiler is free to all broadband users but Visual Studio is expensive.
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#28846 - keldon - Sun Nov 07, 2004 4:58 pm
well Microsoft probably just provide a link to an MSDN download site, a link to intel's site, and a C++ compiler for that price; along with some lame rotating cube demo :P
#28849 - cullend11 - Sun Nov 07, 2004 5:49 pm
can u convert those to usd
#28852 - keldon - Sun Nov 07, 2004 6:26 pm
multiply them by 1.7
#28860 - SimonB - Sun Nov 07, 2004 9:39 pm
1 GBP = 1.85 USD
Simon
#28870 - dagamer34 - Mon Nov 08, 2004 3:33 am
| SimonB wrote: |
1 GBP = 1.85 USD
Simon |
Wow, that's a lot! The US ecnomy is THAT bad?
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#28875 - keldon - Mon Nov 08, 2004 10:12 am
| dagamer34 wrote: |
| SimonB wrote: | 1 GBP = 1.85 USD
Simon |
Wow, that's a lot! The US ecnomy is THAT bad? |
Was thinking the same thing (bearing in mind iraq was couldn't even be funded by microsoft, I think we have a reasonable explanation).
It looks like the americans can quite happily invest in the british pound and expect a rise by the end of the year :P