#34097 - manicdvln - Thu Jan 13, 2005 5:36 pm
Does the DS cartridge have access to the DS firmware/bios?
I was wondering if in the near future, nintendo would possibly make certain games of it's cartridges access the bios and change certain things.
For instance maybe, able to get pictochat work on wifi instead of Nifi.
#34104 - B10H4Z4RD - Thu Jan 13, 2005 6:08 pm
pictochat DOSE work on Wi-Fi. Wi-Fi specifys layer 1 (physical media) and layer 2 (MAC address). What you are wanting is internet access, which is layer 3 (IP address). current games and pictochat uses proprietary layer3-7 protocals. it is totaly posable to connect to the internet with a ds.
now, i dont know if the exesting pictochat can be modifyed, but mayby the will release pictochat 2.0 on a cart, who knows
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#34108 - manicdvln - Thu Jan 13, 2005 6:22 pm
| B10H4Z4RD wrote: |
pictochat DOSE work on Wi-Fi. Wi-Fi specifys layer 1 (physical media) and layer 2 (MAC address). What you are wanting is internet access, which is layer 3 (IP address). current games and pictochat uses proprietary layer3-7 protocals. it is totaly posable to connect to the internet with a ds.
now, i dont know if the exesting pictochat can be modifyed, but mayby the will release pictochat 2.0 on a cart, who knows |
Sorry about the my misconception, but I just wanted to know if DS cartridges have access to DS bios to modify it, that is all.
Pictochat 2.0 on a cart? I doubt it, not a valid strategy for nintendo.
#34115 - iball - Thu Jan 13, 2005 7:12 pm
Well, they are already coming out with a new "improved" chat program on a DS cart that has more features than Pictochat, but unfortunately it still uses the NiFi protocols. Someone needs to build a REAL DS cart that has an included TCP/IP stack on it that can link to APs for real-time internet chat/play. I know, I know, this has all been said before.
#34126 - mtg101 - Thu Jan 13, 2005 10:28 pm
| manicdvln wrote: |
| Pictochat 2.0 on a cart? I doubt it, not a valid strategy for nintendo. |
On its own I agree there's not much going for Pictochat 2.0 on a cart. But a full internet suite would make sense.
Obviously a browser, not just 'cause you want a browser but you'll need it for authenticating to wireless hotspots. Opera runs pretty well on my phone, and that's ARM9 ~66Mhz.
Then you add in Pictochat 2.0. Better would be a normal IM client, something Jabber-like that's cross-platform would be best.
Maybe an email client, but with webmail systems this might not be a necccesity. If Nintendo need to tick the email feature on the box they could always offer their own webmail service, wouldn't cost them much 'cause everyone would just use their own webmail accounts anyway.
Then there's the mic. Or more likley the headset accessory with both mic and headphones. Anyway you shove a VoIP client on the thing and see what Nokia thinks about all the kids getting free voice calls without the need for a phone.
If you really want to push the boat out you could make a system where you can download content to your GBA media player. Not only MP3s and movies but downloadable games too. Remember those Nintendo VIP stars you get everytime you buy a game? The ones that let you download hugely exciting things like wallpaper for your PC? Well if they earned you downloadable games and music... it might actually be worth it!
So if Nintendo offer that for US$29.99, I'll import it on the day of release :)
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#34133 - dagamer34 - Thu Jan 13, 2005 11:50 pm
| mtg101 wrote: |
| manicdvln wrote: | | Pictochat 2.0 on a cart? I doubt it, not a valid strategy for nintendo. |
On its own I agree there's not much going for Pictochat 2.0 on a cart. But a full internet suite would make sense.
Obviously a browser, not just 'cause you want a browser but you'll need it for authenticating to wireless hotspots. Opera runs pretty well on my phone, and that's ARM9 ~66Mhz.
Then you add in Pictochat 2.0. Better would be a normal IM client, something Jabber-like that's cross-platform would be best.
Maybe an email client, but with webmail systems this might not be a necccesity. If Nintendo need to tick the email feature on the box they could always offer their own webmail service, wouldn't cost them much 'cause everyone would just use their own webmail accounts anyway.
Then there's the mic. Or more likley the headset accessory with both mic and headphones. Anyway you shove a VoIP client on the thing and see what Nokia thinks about all the kids getting free voice calls without the need for a phone.
If you really want to push the boat out you could make a system where you can download content to your GBA media player. Not only MP3s and movies but downloadable games too. Remember those Nintendo VIP stars you get everytime you buy a game? The ones that let you download hugely exciting things like wallpaper for your PC? Well if they earned you downloadable games and music... it might actually be worth it!
So if Nintendo offer that for US$29.99, I'll import it on the day of release :) |
Indeed, such a product would be a dream to own. :)
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#34134 - DekuTree64 - Fri Jan 14, 2005 12:04 am
| mtg101 wrote: |
| If you really want to push the boat out you could make a system where you can download content to your GBA media player. Not only MP3s and movies but downloadable games too. Remember those Nintendo VIP stars you get everytime you buy a game? The ones that let you download hugely exciting things like wallpaper for your PC? Well if they earned you downloadable games and music... it might actually be worth it! |
Indeed that would be awesome, especially if they add an SD card reader that plugs into the GBA slot. Lack of save memory is one of the main problems I see with the DS, especially as a creative tool. Sad that the PSP uses memory cards when it's pretty much strictly a gaming system, and the DS is stuck with on-cart saves when removable memory would allow a whole new world of applications.
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#34145 - Sebbo - Fri Jan 14, 2005 5:18 am
i know this is a bit off topic, but going on from the IM over the net...
a few months before the DS was launched i was thinking about a sort of "port" of trillian using AIM, ICQ, MSN and Yahoo that ran on the DS. i had worked out what buttons did what and how the interface would look too :-P any way, that was some months ago now and just remains a dream for now
#34151 - kerrle - Fri Jan 14, 2005 9:19 am
Well, I'm a programmer at the company I work for, and I've already pitched the idea of a DS "Gateway" website that would allow people to instant message with any DS that was connected.
Of course, there's still a ton of work that has to be done before that's possible (there's a reason I watch these boards), and there will probably be the requirement of special hardware. However, I've already started writing the server-side software for taking the text messages and converting them into the picture format we've seen from pictochat captures.
If we ever get it together, I'll let you know, and the company I work for believes in open source, so all the server side of things will probably be made available.
#34152 - NoMis - Fri Jan 14, 2005 9:32 am
| DekuTree64 wrote: |
| Indeed that would be awesome, especially if they add an SD card reader that plugs into the GBA slot. Lack of save memory is one of the main problems I see with the DS, especially as a creative tool. Sad that the PSP uses memory cards when it's pretty much strictly a gaming system, and the DS is stuck with on-cart saves when removable memory would allow a whole new world of applications. |
That would be great. Imagine you could store downloadable content, like Video, Audio and Downloadable Games/Demos, on such a device.
There are many things you could do with the GBA slot. Nintendo could make a Graphic Chip or RAM extension to boost their DS games. Just like they did on the N64 with the RAM pack. Since it's connected with a 16bit bus this would be possible for sure.
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#34154 - mymateo - Fri Jan 14, 2005 10:33 am
I have had in my mind recently the idea of streaming video over wi-fi. Imagine having a media player that will play all popular formats (any AVI you have a codec installed for, MPEG, RM, QT/MOV) and would have the option (if your computer was fast enough) to dynamically re-compress the video into a more DS-friendly format and send it over a wireless connection. In your DS you'd have a cart with the software to connect and supply the codec needed for playback. Maybe even allow it to communicate with the computer and use buttons/touchscreen to control which file is playing. I think this would be nifty, though not likely to ever happen as it would appeal to only a small group, 'cause who'd want to watch video on their DS 30 feet from their computer playing the video at a much higher resolution with better sound? ME THAT'S WHO!
Er... anyway...
#34156 - NoMis - Fri Jan 14, 2005 10:56 am
It would be awesome if you could connect to a videostream wich is broadcastet to the internet. You could watch videos at any place where you have wireless access to the internet.
NoMis
#34171 - dagamer34 - Fri Jan 14, 2005 7:12 pm
It would be nice if there was a reasonable way to distribute demos of DS games. Too bad it will probably never happen due to certain things that would happen to the binary of a demo.... *RE anyone?*
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#34176 - EaDS Milliways - Fri Jan 14, 2005 9:41 pm
| dagamer34 wrote: |
| It would be nice if there was a reasonable way to distribute demos of DS games. Too bad it will probably never happen due to certain things that would happen to the binary of a demo.... *RE anyone?* |
I remember playing a demo of Wario from a GameCube demo disc. The downside is that it used the wired connection. Perhaps a wireless transmitter for the GC to talk to the DS and transmit games is in order?
#34183 - dagamer34 - Sat Jan 15, 2005 1:59 am
| EaDS Milliways wrote: |
| dagamer34 wrote: | | It would be nice if there was a reasonable way to distribute demos of DS games. Too bad it will probably never happen due to certain things that would happen to the binary of a demo.... *RE anyone?* |
I remember playing a demo of Wario from a GameCube demo disc. The downside is that it used the wired connection. Perhaps a wireless transmitter for the GC to talk to the DS and transmit games is in order? |
Or simply a PC wireless unit that can send/receive NiFi signals? It could use RSA encryption on the binary stored on a PC to keep people like us out of it so Nintendo has some sense of security and might actually release the thing...
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#34209 - manicdvln - Sat Jan 15, 2005 4:31 pm
In the upcoming world hobby fair in japan, Nintendo DS owners will be able to download free trial of Meteos onto their DS with download play.
http://www.excite.co.jp/world/english/web/body/?wb_url=http%3A%2F%2Fplanetmeteos.com%2Findex.html&wb_lp=JAEN&wb_dis=2