#34686 - Griffzane - Mon Jan 24, 2005 4:00 am
OK, I'm a beginner at all this crap and I just want to at least be able to get my comp. to see my DS. I need some help with get KisMAC to see it... oh and I have an Apple Comp. so Windows stuff wont work. I NEED HELP!!!!!
#34688 - sandymac - Mon Jan 24, 2005 8:54 am
What make/model is your wireless nic? Airport Extreme won't cut it, A regular Airport should work or any other NIC that KisMAC lists as supporting "passive mode" in the driver prefs window.
Once you have a nic that does passive mode then put your DS in a mode that it is transmitting, such as joining a PictoChat room, and look for a network with the SSID "<nossid>" in KisMAC. Double click on that network and look for a client with a MAC address that starts with "00:09:BF" and you'll have found your DS.
Also, I personally would appreciate it if your posts were a little more well spoken and sounded less like a drunk uncle visiting for the holidays. No need to call things crap and use ALL CAPS unless you're trying to annoy people.
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#34689 - Darkain - Mon Jan 24, 2005 9:15 am
| sandymac wrote: |
| Also, I personally would appreciate it if your posts were a little more well spoken and sounded less like a drunk uncle visiting for the holidays. No need to call things crap and use ALL CAPS unless you're trying to annoy people. |
sadly, not everyone in the world SPEEKS THE SAME LANGUAGE!!! i dont like it when people are in international community, and people diss other peoples ability to make a post in 100% proper english. as long as the message and idea was brought across, it should be fine.
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#34705 - TJ - Mon Jan 24, 2005 5:48 pm
That would be a honorable comment, Darkain, if the problem here was indeed a language barrier.
But sandymac is complaining about what is obviously a case of internet short-hand, not a misunderstanding of the language.
#34712 - sandymac - Mon Jan 24, 2005 10:42 pm
| Darkain wrote: |
| [...] diss other peoples ability to make a post in 100% proper english. as long as the message and idea was brought across, it should be fine. |
I wasn't commenting on proper/improper english. I was requesting that Griffzane's posts be more polite. He did indirectly call your efforts "this crap" and then proceeded to demand help as opposed to requesting it.
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#34716 - Griffzane - Tue Jan 25, 2005 12:00 am
Well, sorry about my english, I am an amarican, back to wat i was saying i think that i have an Airport card im not sure, but we do have an Airport Extream Wi-Fi thingy that get me on the internet without a jack
I still have no idea wat you are talking about. i am very confused on all this "stuff" so please explane it agian only like ur talking to an idiot, witch fit my personalaty.
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#34717 - tepples - Tue Jan 25, 2005 12:00 am
| sandymac wrote: |
| and then proceeded to demand help as opposed to requesting it. |
I haven't followed all of the thread, but doesn't the French word for "to request" (demander) look like the English word for "to demand"? (source: Wikipedia)
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#34718 - sandymac - Tue Jan 25, 2005 12:27 am
| Griffzane wrote: |
| [...] i think that i have an Airport card im not sure, but we do have an Airport Extream Wi-Fi thingy [...] |
To check what type of Airport card you have go to the Apple menu, select 'About This Mac' click on the 'More Info' button and then click on the 'AirPort Card' choice in the device tree. Then tell me what it lists next to "Wireless Card Type:".
If you don't have the 'More Info' button you have an older version of OS X and look in your Applications folder for the System Profiler application instead.
My card type says "AirPort Extreme" which won't work for what we want with KisMAC. I have to use a USB unit. If you have an AirPort Extreme wireless adaptor you're going to need to get a compatible card listed on the KisMAC hardware compatibility page that supports passive mode.
| Griffzane wrote: |
| [...] please explane it agian only like ur talking to an idiot[...] |
Once we've determined if your wireless nic will do passive mode I'll help you with using KisMAC.
| tepples wrote: |
| sandymac wrote: | | and then proceeded to demand help as opposed to requesting it. |
[...] doesn't the French word for "to request" (demander) look like the English word for "to demand"? (source: Wikipedia) |
So it does, I'll keep that in mind for the future. My use of the words 'demand' and 'request' were not quotes from Griffzane but descriptions meant to describe the difference between 'rudely ask' and 'politely ask' for help.
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#34777 - Griffzane - Wed Jan 26, 2005 1:59 am
OK the card type is AirPort, that's all it says. So umm yea
Copy of wat it says, i ncase i got something wrong:
Wireless Card Type: AirPort
Wireless Card Locale: USA
Wireless Card Firmware Version: 9.52
Current Wireless Network: *********
Wireless Channel: 10
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#34785 - sandymac - Wed Jan 26, 2005 5:09 am
| Griffzane wrote: |
| the card type is AirPort |
Okay, open KisMAC and in the Preferences select the Driver grouping. From the drop down menu pick "Apple Airport card, passive mode" and click the 'add' button to add it to the list of capture devices. If you don't have any other capture devices then remove them.
While you're in the perf window, go ahead and check all the 'Channel Hopping' boxes for each capture device because I've read the DS will use channel 14 even though I thought the FCC says you aren't supposed to in the US.
Finally for the driver prefs window, if you want to later take a look at the data capture you need to select the 'Keep everything' radio button in the 'Dump Filter' section.
Okay, close the prefs window and click 'Scan' in the lower right of the main KisMAC window. KisMAC may prompt you for the administrator password to load the kernel module it needs to interface directly with your nic.
You should start seeing networks appear in the main KisMAC window. If you haven't already, power up your DS and go in a PictoChat chat room or the multiplayer part of a game where it's trying to send to other DS units. Basically such that the network transmit light is blinking.
Back in the main KisMAC window you should see a network appear with the SSID of "<nossid>". Double click on it and you'll probably see two lines, one for broadcast and the other for your DS. Your DS will have a MAC address that starts with: 00:09:BF . Click on the DS line and on the left you can see some more info like what channel it is using. If you're wanting to capture packets for later analysis then I suggest you tell KisMAC to only sniff that channel from the Channel menu. If you don't see your DS or you're not seeing new data from it when you think you should then check the Channel menu to make sure KisMAC isn't only sniffing one channel.
That's about all I have to tell you about using KisMAC. It's not that exciting. The next step is to take the captured data and open it in Ethereal. To that you're gonna want to install Fink. Both of those are beyond this post.
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#34789 - Griffzane - Wed Jan 26, 2005 6:37 am
I know i still sound like a dumbass, but w/ the Airport card driver it is in in active mode not in passive. why is that?
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#34806 - sandymac - Wed Jan 26, 2005 3:35 pm
| Griffzane wrote: |
| I know i still sound like a dumbass, but w/ the Airport card driver it is in in active mode not in passive. why is that? |
I don't know, I don't own a regular AirPort Card. I guess you're going to need to read the KisMAC docs or wiki. If you're still stuck, email the author, he's helped me out once or twice in the past.
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