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DS development > DS Hardware IS accessible through GBA port.

#36272 - jazzleo - Wed Feb 16, 2005 8:26 pm

If most of you haven't noticed, if you play Wario Ware Inc. on the Nintendo DS, the color of the Power LED will change (red & green) in sync with the current song that is being played throughout the entire game. BTW, i was running the Wario Ware Inc. game using my Flash2Advance 256Mb card.

So, this answers one question that many of you are still asking, which is that the DS hardware (at least part of it) is accessible via software from the GBA port, and this also brings up a few new ( and old ) questions:

1) What other Nintendo's GBA games have these little easter eggs that works only with the DS?
2) Is it possible to run DS games running on a GBA Flash Cart without any additional hardware modification?
3) What other hardware features are accessible via the GBA slot?
4) I thought I read somewhere that Nintendo said that the GBA slot cannot access any of the DS features?

I might be wrong about what I'm saying here, but it's quite an interesting easter egg for those of you who haven't noticed it yet.

#36273 - Dwedit - Wed Feb 16, 2005 8:28 pm

I think your battery is low.
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#36274 - jazzleo - Wed Feb 16, 2005 8:29 pm

Negative. I just charged my DS.

#36277 - ampz - Wed Feb 16, 2005 8:42 pm

I still think it is power related.
Some flash carts consume alot of power. Perhaps it is on the edge of what the DS can deliver, so the voltage varies slightly with the music.
Try running your original Wario Ware cart (which draws alot less power) and tell us the results.

#36279 - jazzleo - Wed Feb 16, 2005 8:45 pm

Sorry, I don't have the original catridge of the game.
Can someone help out here? :P

#36280 - ampz - Wed Feb 16, 2005 8:46 pm

jazzleo wrote:
Sorry, I don't have the original catridge of the game.
Can someone help out here? :P

Thought as much...

#36282 - jazzleo - Wed Feb 16, 2005 8:51 pm

OK, i might be wrong about this thingie. I'll try to confirm this with someone who has the original catridge.

#36285 - Psykus - Wed Feb 16, 2005 9:21 pm

I have the original Wario Ware cartridge at home, as well as a DS. I seriously doubt that Wario Ware is making the DS LEDs blink, but, i'll give it a shot anyways. I'm at school, so it will likely be sometime later, but, I will get to it.

#36291 - Dwedit - Wed Feb 16, 2005 10:14 pm

I've played wario ware on the DS before and never noticed any LEDs changing state.
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#36296 - showka - Thu Feb 17, 2005 1:07 am

This is a sign from the powers that be that your immortal soul is in danger of being bannished to eternal hellfire due to your blatant disregard for copyright law.

The green light represents the light of heaven and the lord Jesus Christ our savior, who are struggling to save your soul from the temptation of rom pirating. The red light represents the ill will of the Dark Lord Lucifier, whose graps grows stronger on your soul with each new rom you download.

So please realize that as the light becomes more red, you yourself get closer to the gaping mouth of Hell. Not that I want to judge or anything, I mean, you may have owned a copy and lost it in a boating accident or something, but that's the theory I'm going with now.

#36301 - PowerCat - Thu Feb 17, 2005 1:37 am

showka++

#36304 - Zendoben - Thu Feb 17, 2005 3:53 am

I don't remember noticing it on my copy of Wario Ware either.. I'll have to check again when I get my Wario cart back from a friend. I somehow doubt it though, considering that Wario Ware was released back in May 2003. One and a half years before the DS was released. That was well before the DS's feature set and hardware design were even finalized.

You'd think if there WERE a way to access the DS hardware directly via the GBA cart slot, someone in the homebrew community would have figured it out by now.

BTW, Wario Ware: Touched for the DS is rather fun.

#36306 - RiZeUp - Thu Feb 17, 2005 4:01 am

I just tried WarioWare on my DS and I saw no blinking led. Not that this is surprising considering the game was released about a year ago.
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#36309 - jazzleo - Thu Feb 17, 2005 5:02 am

OK. Just want to confirm the several thingies. I checked with an original copy of Wario Ware Inc. and found that the LED flickering does not happen with the original catridge..so it seems that my flash cart must be really draining the machine's power or something?
Sorry for the commotion. :P

#36311 - TJ - Thu Feb 17, 2005 6:02 am

Yeah, it is power related.

Try turning the speakers down, or off completely, and I bet you it will stop flashing.

#36313 - tepples - Thu Feb 17, 2005 6:10 am

Flash cards do draw more current than original Game Paks, unless you're playing a multiboot game on your flash card. Go use Loopy's mbdumper (find it on Pocket Heaven) to dump one of the Wario World multiboots, put it on a flash card, and then play it on your DS.
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#36317 - ampz - Thu Feb 17, 2005 7:44 am

tepples wrote:
Flash cards do draw more current than original Game Paks, unless you're playing a multiboot game on your flash card. Go use Loopy's mbdumper (find it on Pocket Heaven) to dump one of the Wario World multiboots, put it on a flash card, and then play it on your DS.

Actually, I have found that (at least some) flash carts draw about as much current when idle as when playing a game from it. So this might not necessarily be true.

#36322 - tepples - Thu Feb 17, 2005 9:33 am

ampz wrote:
tepples wrote:
Flash cards do draw more current than original Game Paks, unless you're playing a multiboot game on your flash card.

Actually, I have found that (at least some) flash carts draw about as much current when idle as when playing a game from it. So this might not necessarily be true.

To distinguish this, try yanking the cart during multiboot gameplay. (Aside: This lets you load one multiboot onto multiple kids' GBAs at a family party, without messing around with wires.) And on systems where you can't yank the cart at all (currently just the Game Boy Player), power consumption doesn't matter.
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#36331 - MumblyJoe - Thu Feb 17, 2005 2:53 pm

showka wrote:
The green light represents the light of heaven and the lord Jesus Christ our savior, who are struggling to save your soul from the temptation of rom pirating. The red light represents the ill will of the Dark Lord Lucifier, whose graps grows stronger on your soul with each new rom you download.


Maybe YOUR saviour man. Also I'm pretty sure the bible says nothing about software piracy :P
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#36339 - tepples - Thu Feb 17, 2005 8:08 pm

MumblyJoe wrote:
Also I'm pretty sure the bible says nothing about software piracy :P

Yartrebo has a good answer for that one:
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Most religions promote sharing and are against greed. Essentially no religion promotes copyright and copyright is a foreign concept to most religions (exception: Scientology - but they're a cult, not a real religion). That copyrights and DRM prevent their followers from editing works to fit their moral values (by removing nudity, consumerism, sex, violence, etc) is another point against copyrights. Copyrights also reinforce the very coporations who push said smut and consumerism.

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#36362 - Magi989 - Fri Feb 18, 2005 3:25 am

I've had the Metroid demo flash from red to green similar to what you said, but it was only whenever I shot.. and it was only because I was right at like 31% or something (whatever the percent is that the red light goes on, I'm thinking 30%)