#36361 - Mchart - Fri Feb 18, 2005 3:16 am
Just curious. Did nintendo completely drop support for it, or did they just choose not to put the port on the DS. If the answer is they just decided not to put the port on the DS, would anyone know how to wire it up?
#36364 - tepples - Fri Feb 18, 2005 4:08 am
Two reasons: - A couple of the more popular GBA flash carts go through the serial port.
- If the Nintendo DS had a GBA link port, then Nintendo would have virtually no reason to sell the GBA SP anymore, given that most of the GBC games have GBA sequels nowadays.
Most likely, the SO, SI, SC, and SD signals on the DS's ARM7 CPU aren't brought out to the package. Has anybody with a Nintendo DS and a GBA flash cart managed to tickle the serial registers on the DS in GBA mode and see if they behave as a GBA's do?
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#36365 - Mchart - Fri Feb 18, 2005 4:10 am
The only reason im really curious about this is because I want the abililty to flash my cart using the DS. Even more important though, is that if this were figured out, this would open many doors.
#36370 - sgeos - Fri Feb 18, 2005 5:26 am
| Mchart wrote: |
I want the abililty to flash my cart using the DS.
...if this were figured out, this would open many doors. |
Those are the reasons why Nintendo dropped the link port.
-Brendan
#36371 - wrath_child - Fri Feb 18, 2005 5:33 am
in another post i read that the GBA Bios and the DS Bios are exactley alike should the DS then not have capabilitys for the link port.
#36372 - Mchart - Fri Feb 18, 2005 5:38 am
| sgeos wrote: |
| Mchart wrote: | I want the abililty to flash my cart using the DS.
...if this were figured out, this would open many doors. |
Those are the reasons why Nintendo dropped the link port.
-Brendan |
But my question is, is the link port physically removed so there are no traces of it left on the DS. Or does it actually exsist on the DS, but just needs to be wired. Because I havent seen any specific detail on this issue. All I have seen is just the fact that the link port is not there, but whats to say that the DS couldnt be rigged up with one?
#36375 - TJ - Fri Feb 18, 2005 8:26 am
Since the mainboard in the DS is nothing like the GBA, it is doubtful that any ruminants of the link port would exist on it.
#36387 - Jerry-kun - Fri Feb 18, 2005 5:01 pm
It's a shame... I, for one, wouldn't mind having another controller for FF:CC or Four Swords. I only have 2 GBAs and one of them has sticky shoulder buttons.
#36395 - ampz - Fri Feb 18, 2005 8:40 pm
| Jerry-kun wrote: |
| It's a shame... I, for one, wouldn't mind having another controller for FF:CC or Four Swords. I only have 2 GBAs and one of them has sticky shoulder buttons. |
Open it up and clean them?
#36399 - Joat - Fri Feb 18, 2005 11:24 pm
The link port hardware is alive and well on the ARM7, but being put to other uses. I dunno if the lines are brought out, or if the stuff it's doing is all internal on-die, but either way, the DS will *not* boot properly if you were to interfere with the communication it's doing on the GBA-style serial port.
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#36406 - Mchart - Sat Feb 19, 2005 3:57 am
What's it using it for then? Is it using it for its WIFI?
#36411 - netdroid9 - Sat Feb 19, 2005 5:12 am
Could be.
I think that as soon as the DS is properly homebrewed someone will program an emulator for the older GB/GBC and possibly GBA games with the linkport over wifi, so I don't really care.
#36412 - Mchart - Sat Feb 19, 2005 5:39 am
All I want out of my DS is -
MMO Game
SNES/Genesis emulation
The first one isnt to far off, but for the 2nd one, it could be some time before thats ready.
#36418 - netdroid9 - Sat Feb 19, 2005 8:20 am
MMO = Massive Online Multiplayer?
And SNES emulation, isn't that going to be hard with the screen ratios and stuff?
#36419 - dagamer34 - Sat Feb 19, 2005 8:40 am
| netdroid9 wrote: |
MMO = Massive Online Multiplayer?
And SNES emulation, isn't that going to be hard with the screen ratios and stuff? |
SNES emulation was done on the GBA, which also had screen ration issues. However, the extra 32 vertical scanlines, and 8 pixels per line will make it much easier to view, scaled or unscaled.
The DS should be able to emulate the system at full speed barring any technical difficulties. Perhpas it would even be able to support wireless mutliplayer emulation, who knows?
At the moment, probably just getting the basic functions of the DS working would be enough for most right now.
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#36427 - Mchart - Sat Feb 19, 2005 3:41 pm
| dagamer34 wrote: |
| netdroid9 wrote: | MMO = Massive Online Multiplayer?
And SNES emulation, isn't that going to be hard with the screen ratios and stuff? |
SNES emulation was done on the GBA, which also had screen ration issues. However, the extra 32 vertical scanlines, and 8 pixels per line will make it much easier to view, scaled or unscaled.
The DS should be able to emulate the system at full speed barring any technical difficulties. Perhpas it would even be able to support wireless mutliplayer emulation, who knows?
At the moment, probably just getting the basic functions of the DS working would be enough for most right now. |
The only reason I say it will take time, is because of all the shinanigans going on right now.