#39105 - gl0b - Mon Apr 04, 2005 4:21 pm
http://www.dsgaming.co.uk/html/modules/news/article.php?storyid=413
| dSgaming.co.uk wrote: |
Jadrule is developing DS tunneling software that will allow all DS multiplayer games to be played online. Details inside.
Sources from the Italian developer Jadrule have confirmed exclusively to DSGaming that they are nearing an alpha release of their DS tunneling software. The software as been in development since December 2004 and currently goes under the name of 'DS Linkup', which will be released on April 11th.
DS Linkup promises to connect DS users from all over the globe and currently has been tested across Europe with several successful connection and from Europe to America with one successful connection.
The games tested so far are Super Mario 64 DS and PictoChat.
The reason for the delayed release of April 11th is that the software is being tested for compatibility in further regions first.
The official website can be found here:
Jadrule DS Linkup page
With the recent news about a possible DS Linux release soon in addition to this news, it seems like the DS might finally be gaining some ground on the PSP in terms of homebrew software and the like.
Thanks very much to Frozin for reporting this exclusively to DSGaming. |
Sounds like the old origa brothers fake gc modchip (jadrule is italian too lol)
Just check for urself
hoax or not?
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#39107 - the_angry_monkey - Mon Apr 04, 2005 4:57 pm
I emailed for more info but they were reluctant to disclose....if this is a fake why not april 1st? Hmmmm... Of course if it is real I am getting a wireless router on Monday :D
#39110 - gl0b - Mon Apr 04, 2005 5:16 pm
http://jadrule.tk is hosted here
http://www.frozin.myfxh.com/
kinda strange -_- (check pics / files on the directory)
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#39121 - jstart - Mon Apr 04, 2005 7:35 pm
If it isn't a hoax i really hope someone ports it to the mac!
#39127 - TJ - Mon Apr 04, 2005 10:07 pm
| Quote: |
| Sounds like the old origa brothers fake gc modchip |
That wasn't fake; their method was just never suitable for a commercial device.
It was proven to work by Costis though, and videos of it booting demos were shown.
#39130 - gl0b - Mon Apr 04, 2005 11:03 pm
jadrude's site has now screenshots & even a forum check it out
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#39131 - jstart - Mon Apr 04, 2005 11:09 pm
yah its cool
#39136 - Spaceface - Tue Apr 05, 2005 1:45 am
w:hat:
#39141 - mymateo - Tue Apr 05, 2005 3:23 am
How exactly does this software work?
| Jadulre DSLinkUP page wrote: |
| Each user will need to be in a wifi hotspot or own a 802.11b router or faster. See you on April 11! |
That's all I saw about requirements. No mention of needing a computer, yet obviously you do. No wireless NIC required? Does the PC simply talk to the wireless router and tell it what to do?
Usually, I like to sit on the fence and lean one way, but this time I have to say that although I would love this to be true, it is complete BS. And I hope that I am proven wrong and have to eat those words, but I'm not setting the placemat just yet.
#39240 - Mike - Wed Apr 06, 2005 1:38 pm
Some stupid kid fired up Visual Basic and drew a nice GUI. Nothing more.
I bet if you'd start discussing the details of the TCP/IP protocol, or maybe even the 'C' programming language, this kid would stare and blush with ignorace.
Also, PictoChat AFAIK doesn't send text in ASCII, it sends bitmaps. So unless they're using sophisticated Optical Character Recognition software, the screenshots are obviously fake. And even if I'm mistaken and text does gets sent seperately, why wouldn't they put in image support if they were such master hackers?
Meh. It's not even a good hoax.
#39243 - linus - Wed Apr 06, 2005 2:31 pm
yeah i had a brief look around the forums and the moderators dont even know the guy or how WiFi, TCP/IP and computers work generally. Sure theyre just moderators but it gives you an idea :)
98% likely its a fake imho
Edit: hmm both theyre sites are down - could these hoaxers not even make it to theyre own fake deadline?
#39271 - tepples - Wed Apr 06, 2005 9:10 pm
| Mike wrote: |
| PictoChat AFAIK doesn't send text in ASCII, it sends bitmaps. So unless they're using sophisticated Optical Character Recognition software, the screenshots are obviously fake. |
Text typed on the on-screen keyboard is written in a constant font. OCR in this case would be rawther straightforward.
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#39275 - bluknight - Wed Apr 06, 2005 10:19 pm
The website is down, but on the forums it says that the site is having it's final move. The forums can be accessed by using this link:
http://dslinkup.cjb.net
#39278 - Ethos - Wed Apr 06, 2005 11:26 pm
| bluknight wrote: |
The website is down, but on the forums it says that the site is having it's final move. The forums can be accessed by using this link:
http://dslinkup.cjb.net |
Final move or hit bandwidth requirements on the server :P
#39295 - Kola - Thu Apr 07, 2005 2:54 am
Look at the screenshots. One user is JadrulePR, but he's already said he doesn't even think the software exists. Also in one image the game name is Super Mario 64 DS and the other it's Super Mario 64DS. I imagine it takes the name straight from the DS so this looks very dodgy.
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#39304 - Mike - Thu Apr 07, 2005 7:21 am
| tepples wrote: |
| Mike wrote: | | PictoChat AFAIK doesn't send text in ASCII, it sends bitmaps. So unless they're using sophisticated Optical Character Recognition software, the screenshots are obviously fake. |
Text typed on the on-screen keyboard is written in a constant font. OCR in this case would be rawther straightforward. |
Actually, you're right. It would be very straightforward. I wasn't thinking things through :(
#39320 - bluknight - Thu Apr 07, 2005 12:41 pm
| Kola wrote: |
| Look at the screenshots. One user is JadrulePR, but he's already said he doesn't even think the software exists. Also in one image the game name is Super Mario 64 DS and the other it's Super Mario 64DS. I imagine it takes the name straight from the DS so this looks very dodgy. |
Sharp eye. Yeah, I don't see how this could be true. My hopes are dying more and more as the 11th gets closer.
#39321 - gl0b - Thu Apr 07, 2005 12:44 pm
JadrulePR is only the moderator not the real Jadrule as they said on the forum. :S
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#39323 - Ethos - Thu Apr 07, 2005 1:08 pm
lol, so I was right, they keep jumping from free server to free server because of bandwidth limits....so dodgy
#39456 - nintendo - Sat Apr 09, 2005 3:59 am
Why does it say on the main page on the right release: 11.04.05
Does this mean he is changing it to release in November? By then Nintendo will might have already released its own wireless network.
#39457 - tepples - Sat Apr 09, 2005 4:08 am
Try 2011 April 05. By then, the Game Boy Evolution (rumored name for post-GBA handheld, Nintendo's PSP killer) will be on its last legs.
The year is written first... IN JAPAN!
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#39458 - Sebbo - Sat Apr 09, 2005 4:14 am
11/04/05 is the proper way to write dates :-P dd/mm/yy instead of the americanised mm/dd/yy
#39462 - tepples - Sat Apr 09, 2005 4:39 am
The standard way to write dates in the Gregorian calendar is ISO 8601, yyyy-mm-dd.
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#39473 - PhoenixSoft - Sat Apr 09, 2005 11:56 am
The Americanised way of writing dates is retarded. It is like writing time as HH:SS:MM.
#39518 - Mike - Sat Apr 09, 2005 11:15 pm
| PhoenixSoft wrote: |
| The Americanised way of writing dates is retarded. It is like writing time as HH:SS:MM. |
I've got your back on that one ;)
#39527 - octopusfluff - Sun Apr 10, 2005 12:37 am
| PhoenixSoft wrote: |
| The Americanised way of writing dates is retarded. It is like writing time as HH:SS:MM. |
I, as well. I'm native to US, and have lived here most of my life, but I still do YYMMDD for all of my records.
#39536 - Lynx - Sun Apr 10, 2005 2:17 am
| Kola wrote: |
| Also in one image the game name is Super Mario 64 DS and the other it's Super Mario 64DS. I imagine it takes the name straight from the DS so this looks very dodgy. |
No.. that's because one screen shot is in english, and the other is in some other language.. So, if you translate Super Mario 64DS, it because Super Mario 64 DS
Heh! :D
#39542 - assassda - Sun Apr 10, 2005 2:52 am
now hosted at http://www.classicgaming.com/bayoudejital/dslinkup/
dejital was responsible for the other online hoax :\
#39543 - Mike - Sun Apr 10, 2005 3:16 am
| assassda wrote: |
| dejital was responsible for the other online hoax :\ |
Which hoax would that be? The GC Modchip?
#39560 - willgonz - Sun Apr 10, 2005 7:13 am
The fact that they are using free hosting sites doesn't prove it is a hoax, they could be college kids with no money.
They could also be writing a massive Spyware app, so when we all hit the site on April 11th we get infected.
If you have a wireless router, you may not need a wireless card in your PC. Because other programs in the past have functioned as a pass thru with a wireless router and your PC.
The screens for Pictochat that you see aren't the chats within pictochat, they are PC to PC chats.
Same with the other games. PC to PC chats.
Looks like it was written in .NET I don't think you can do the hourglass like that in a listbox. Possible Photoshop or MS Paint job.
If it is real, woooohhooooo, Props to these guys. If it is fake, oh well.
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#39563 - Sebbo - Sun Apr 10, 2005 7:39 am
well, i'll point out the things that makes me think the screens are faked:
first, the hourglass definantly looks like a MS Paint job, no microsoft icon is that big and crappy :-P
second, have a look at the DS Linkup logo at the top of each window. its quite smoothed while everything else is sharp. when you import an image into VB, Delphi or any other similar object-oriented, event driven application builder the images come out sharp. that definantly looks photoshopped (esp since from my experience jpgs and such which can b smoothed down like that can't be loaded in VB, Borland Delphi etc)
#39565 - Dib - Sun Apr 10, 2005 7:47 am
| Mike wrote: |
| tepples wrote: | | Mike wrote: | | PictoChat AFAIK doesn't send text in ASCII, it sends bitmaps. So unless they're using sophisticated Optical Character Recognition software, the screenshots are obviously fake. |
Text typed on the on-screen keyboard is written in a constant font. OCR in this case would be rawther straightforward. |
Actually, you're right. It would be very straightforward. I wasn't thinking things through :( |
Sort of. You can also drag the letters from the virtual keyboard to the drawing area. So if one were to try detecting letters as if they were tiles, that would definitely screw it up.
#39568 - Mike - Sun Apr 10, 2005 8:52 am
| Dib wrote: |
| Mike wrote: | | tepples wrote: | | Mike wrote: | | PictoChat AFAIK doesn't send text in ASCII, it sends bitmaps. So unless they're using sophisticated Optical Character Recognition software, the screenshots are obviously fake. |
Text typed on the on-screen keyboard is written in a constant font. OCR in this case would be rawther straightforward. |
Actually, you're right. It would be very straightforward. I wasn't thinking things through :( |
Sort of. You can also drag the letters from the virtual keyboard to the drawing area. So if one were to try detecting letters as if they were tiles, that would definitely screw it up. |
Not if you'd match each pixel of each character to every possible position on the screen. Though if someone partially drew over characters, it would become harder to match them.
#39569 - Mike - Sun Apr 10, 2005 8:55 am
| Sebbo wrote: |
well, i'll point out the things that makes me think the screens are faked:
first, the hourglass definantly looks like a MS Paint job, no microsoft icon is that big and crappy :-P
second, have a look at the DS Linkup logo at the top of each window. its quite smoothed while everything else is sharp. when you import an image into VB, Delphi or any other similar object-oriented, event driven application builder the images come out sharp. that definantly looks photoshopped (esp since from my experience jpgs and such which can b smoothed down like that can't be loaded in VB, Borland Delphi etc) |
I mentioned the hand-drawn hourglass in their forums too.
Something else that springs to mind would be the hovering text next to that hourglass.
No coder in their right mind would do something like that, for obvious legibility reasons.
#39573 - octopusfluff - Sun Apr 10, 2005 10:31 am
| Mike wrote: |
I mentioned the hand-drawn hourglass in their forums too.
Something else that springs to mind would be the hovering text next to that hourglass.
No coder in their right mind would do something like that, for obvious legibility reasons. |
Not to argue your point (which I actually agree with) I do have to dispute the assertion that coders have to be, at any point, in their 'right mind'.
There are plenty of valid states that produce interesting and/or effective programs.
#39575 - Dib - Sun Apr 10, 2005 10:37 am
| Mike wrote: |
| Not if you'd match each pixel of each character to every possible position on the screen. Though if someone partially drew over characters, it would become harder to match them. |
That's why I wrote "to try detecting the letters as if they were tiles". The time it would take by running that sort of scan would make it unreasonable for real time chat.
#39589 - nintendo - Sun Apr 10, 2005 4:29 pm
They took the forums link off of their main site. Can you still access it, or do that not want anymore people posting all the things that are fake about this program?
#39590 - wintermute - Sun Apr 10, 2005 4:35 pm
heh, haven't even lasted to their fake release date
#39605 - quonic - Sun Apr 10, 2005 6:42 pm
| wintermute wrote: |
| heh, haven't even lasted to their fake release date |
Just wait and see on April 11.
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#39615 - bttfpromo - Sun Apr 10, 2005 8:08 pm
Nah, they bought DSLinkup.com. Why would they buy a domain for a hoax?
#39616 - darkfader - Sun Apr 10, 2005 8:19 pm
Seriuously... earnings from a popup is more than getting a domain for a year. How do you explain the bandwidth problem?
#39622 - nintendo - Sun Apr 10, 2005 9:06 pm
There is no dslinkup.com
#39624 - darkfader - Sun Apr 10, 2005 9:09 pm
Creation date: 04 Apr 2005 21:48:01
Expiration date: 04 Apr 2006 21:48:01
Title for the page was "Jadrule DSlinkUP - bringing the ds online".
You're right that it's gone now.
#39627 - wintermute - Sun Apr 10, 2005 9:52 pm
| quonic wrote: |
| wintermute wrote: | | heh, haven't even lasted to their fake release date |
Just wait and see on April 11. |
I don't particularly need to, it's such an obvious hoax.
#39632 - darkfader - Sun Apr 10, 2005 11:03 pm
| Quote: |
| Yeah, it's a hoax. |
:)
#39637 - bluknight - Mon Apr 11, 2005 12:25 am
Stupidest thing ever. -.-
It's not even a good hoax. The majority of people didn't believe him in the first place. And over the 10 days, the amount of people who believed him just kept decreasing. Damn stupid.
#39647 - Spaceface - Mon Apr 11, 2005 1:33 am
oh how fucking funny.. it was a hoax, just as the page says...
as if it would be funny after Nitro...
eventhough I didn't believed it I got my hopes up a little... why would people do this.. egh
#39648 - nintendo - Mon Apr 11, 2005 1:37 am
Those frieken idiots. I really wanted that to happen. But who cares. I'll just wait for nintendo's wireless network.
#39649 - tepples - Mon Apr 11, 2005 1:49 am
| nintendo wrote: |
| I'll just wait for nintendo's wireless network. |
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#39653 - bluknight - Mon Apr 11, 2005 2:04 am
That took me so long to figure out what you were saying, tepples. lol.
Yeah, the guy who did this hoax is retarded. It's not even funny. All he was doing was either enjoying his fifteen minutes of fame, or putting up one of those ads where he gets payed for every view, thus making lots of money because all the people checking to see details and if it's a hoax and blah blah blah...
#39656 - Spaceface - Mon Apr 11, 2005 2:45 am
to get back on "nintendo's network".. I keep hearing about hot-spots .. are just talking about APs or do they actually want us to get outside? :(
#39665 - Sebbo - Mon Apr 11, 2005 6:48 am
well, nintendo are saying any hotspot, so i imagine the packets that are sent out will get redirected to a nintendo server or something, so you can play anywhere from your bedroom to a cafe as long as there's an access point available
Tim's getting good work done on cracking the wireless, i believe he's managed to us the DS download play like passme, so mayb someone will write some code to send out of the DS in TCP/IP?