#47227 - Jsm - Wed Jul 06, 2005 4:52 pm
I'm sorry to say this but I don't know why you guys are so hard headed and didn't just use the damn sdk. Things wouldn't be so slow and we wouldn't be so behind the psp scene. Using the sdk works, I mean look at the xbox scene, it has always been on the xdk and it is a very strong scene with pretty much all emus ported, and the libraries have even been made better like with virtual memory. Anyways do what you want, i'm just fucking whining.
#47228 - kerrle - Wed Jul 06, 2005 5:01 pm
Using anything Nintendo owns the rights to without having their permission gives them a way to shut this site down if they so choose, and makes any work you do illegal to distribute.
There's no such thing as too clean.
#47229 - Spaceface - Wed Jul 06, 2005 5:01 pm
I'm already looking forward to the replies 8)
#47230 - Jsm - Wed Jul 06, 2005 5:05 pm
you can find all information on xdk made software on xbox-scene.com and that website has never been shutdown. They just make sure to provide no links. And don't say xbox-scene is not a know web site, it's actually the second website you get when you type xbox in google, (the first is xbox.com)
#47231 - TheMikaus - Wed Jul 06, 2005 5:21 pm
Microsoft sits back and says yeah people.
Nintendo tries to prevent companies from distributing flash carts and dev equipment. Depends on the company.
#47238 - FourScience - Wed Jul 06, 2005 6:19 pm
Technically, adopting the Nintendo SDK isn't as simple as adopting the XDK. It's my understanding that the Nintendo SDK involves Nitro hardware and the development libraries probably depend on this. These kits cost $10,000 to $20,000 USD, so it's no wonder why no one is even bothering to use the SDK. The XDK is easier to adopt/pirate, as it involves the XDK libraries and MS Visual Studio .Net. It also requires a development-ready Xbox, something that's easy to create by modifying an end-user Xbox. Of course, there is info in the Nintendo SDK that is useful without the dev-hardware, but there are other reasons to respect copyrights and licenses...
Ethically...
Xbox-Scene.com seems to straddle the legal line, but even they claim that they don't condone any illegal use of the XDK. From their homebrew releases page:
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Everything on this page is non-commercial or freeware.
None of the content should contain any copyright protected code |
| Jsm wrote: |
| you can find all information on xdk made software on xbox-scene.com and that website has never been shutdown. |
Just because it's not shut down doesn't mean it's acceptable. Microsoft has a lot of bigger fish to fry than a few hundred console hackers.
Just because an SDK or XDK is "out there" doesn't make it legal to download and use without permission or license. Respectable people respect copyrights and licenses. You'll only find respectable people here (generally).
For information about Nintendo's approach to roms and emulators, visit http://www.nintendo.com/corp/legal.jsp
Nintendo is very different from Microsoft. They take more extreme measures to prevent piracy; did you ever hear about the Gamecube discs spinning backwards (and they're a wee-bit smaller too if you look =O)? They are much more focused than Microsoft in stamping out piracy and EULA violations on their console hardware.
The discussion about GameCube discs has been split to another topic. -- mod
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#47252 - Ethos - Wed Jul 06, 2005 8:28 pm
Ain't nobody dope as me I'm dressed so fresh so clean!
Ain't nobody code like me I'm just so fresh so clean!
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#47256 - mike260 - Wed Jul 06, 2005 9:00 pm
| Jsm wrote: |
| Things wouldn't be so slow and we wouldn't be so behind the psp scene. |
Actually, "we" are actually quite far ahead of the PSP; "we" know how the 3D hardware works, and "we" have a better development environment. The reason the PSP has a flood of emulators and suchlike is that it has more RAM and a faster CPU, which makes these things a lot easier to accomplish.
And from what I gather, ndslib is broadly equivalent to the official SDK anyway, excepting wifi. In fact, ndslib lets you do stuff the SDK forbids (like accessing the ARM7). You seem to think that the SDK is some kind of magic bullet that gives you more RAM, a faster CPU, and somehow improves your coding skills.
Anyway, am I the only person completely uninterested in running emulators on my DS?
#47261 - Veg - Wed Jul 06, 2005 9:53 pm
Yes
:P
#47266 - G-Pjube - Wed Jul 06, 2005 10:32 pm
| mike260 wrote: |
Anyway, am I the only person completely uninterested in running emulators on my DS? |
No your not. If someone wishes to play a snes game, go get yourself a snes -_-
I appreciate Homebrew games much more, gives me something new what not every game offers, something not done by others, or playing something i allready know. In some cases an emulator can sure bring some new stuff up, but i rather play it on the system it was ment for then playing it on my handheld without limitations and bugs (not every emulator has this though).
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