#48200 - jakerayfiel - Mon Jul 18, 2005 4:46 am
hi guys, im a noob to this forum, soo, i want to know how i can hack my DS as in, what i need to do it, a data cable, im going to go search now, thank you for your time and please submit info
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#48201 - The 9th Sage - Mon Jul 18, 2005 4:59 am
| jakerayfiel wrote: |
hi guys, im a noob to this forum, soo, i want to know how i can hack my DS as in, what i need to do it, a data cable, im going to go search now, thank you for your time and please submit info
Regards,
Jake Rayfiel |
I'm assuming you mean "What do I need to flash my firmware?"
Ok, first you'll need either a *PassMe* or a Wifi card compatible with *WifiMe*, and a GBA cat, or as of...today, a GB Movie Player with hacked firmware.
The *PassMe* is probably the more straightforward way right off the bat. Basically it's a hardware passthrough device...needs a commercial DS game inserted into it to work. It tricks the DS into running DS code from the GBA slot instead of the NDS card. If you flash the NDS code to the GBA cart, look for an NDS.GBA file (or if using a hacked GBMP if I understand how it works right it would load the code, in this case having the extension NDS from the root directory of your compact flash card), then when you start up the DS with a PassMe inserted, it'll boot that code...so if it's the flashing program, get ready to start flashing, and read the instructions on FlashMe's Homepage carefully. You'll need a paper clip or something to short that connector, and make sure you are good with the power...if you don't at least finish flashing the secure part of the firmware, you just turned your DS into a nice looking coaster.
Ok, so your other option is *WiFiMe*. Basically this is like a virtual PassMe, it works the same way. Go here for more information. You'll need the custom drivers and the WiFiMe data located there...also, it works only with specific wireless cards, this driver. Look at the compatibility list on the download page...you're in luck if you have one of those cards, then you can get started right away.
After you flash your firmware, you can also use this to send DS homebrew straight to your NDS via the download play option...which is quite cool. :)
Oh yeah, and another thing...the difference in an NDS file and an NDS.GBA file is this...
The NDS file uses the standard NDS format...good for sending via WiFi and in Darkain's Multi-NDS loader. You'll find all official demos in this format, although it's easy to conver them to the other. The NDS.GBA is this with a loader wrapped around it making it possible to use from a GBA cart using PassMe...it even has a GBA header so that the flashing programs can muck with it all they want and not cause a fuss. You can find this loader on Dark Fader's website. Look for NDSmall.bin.
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#48202 - jakerayfiel - Mon Jul 18, 2005 5:10 am
that really sux 4 me, im in a lan connection with my family, the comp with the router witch is my dads and im not allowed on is the one with the wireless router, witch supports my familys computers upstairs, since my comp is downstairs, i use a cable going out the window fomr upstairs down to mine through my window, now what do i do!
Edit: just checked its a netgear wireless router and we have 3 wireless U.S. robotics cards for the 2 desktop commps upstairs, and 1 for upstairs laptop, omfg what do i do! :)
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#48203 - The 9th Sage - Mon Jul 18, 2005 5:16 am
| jakerayfiel wrote: |
| that really sux 4 me, im in a lan connection with my family, the comp with the router witch is my dads and im not allowed on is the one with the wireless router, witch supports my familys computers upstairs, since my comp is downstairs, i use a cable going out the window fomr upstairs down to mine through my window, now what do i do! |
>_>;
Ah, well it doesn't work with a router anyway. You need a PCI or a PCMCIA wireless card that's compatible.
You'll just need to do it one of the other ways then if you don't have or can't get a compatible wireless card. The cheapest way is probably to get a PassMe, then get a GBA Movie Player and flash it's firmware. If you have the money get a flash cart though, IMHO.
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#48204 - jakerayfiel - Mon Jul 18, 2005 5:19 am
just checked its a netgear wireless router and we have 3 wireless U.S. robotics cards for the 2 desktop commps upstairs, and 1 for upstairs laptop, omfg what do i do! :)
WtF is a flashcart, and kan u gimi a link to buy it plz
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#48205 - The 9th Sage - Mon Jul 18, 2005 5:26 am
| jakerayfiel wrote: |
just checked its a netgear wireless router and we have 3 wireless U.S. robotics cards for the 2 desktop commps upstairs, and 1 for upstairs laptop, omfg what do i do! :)
WtF is a flashcart, and kan u gimi a link to buy it plz |
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Er, well find out their model numbers and check them against the list here. No I can't do it for ya. :P
*edit*
If the card in question has a * next to it, it may or may not be compatible...it means they changed the chips it used at some point (to where it wouldn't work the custom software, so you may just have to try it and see, not sure how to tell the difference.
*end of edit*
A flash cart is a programmable Gameboy Advance cartridge in this case...you can put GBA homebrew on there, like emulators and stuff if you want, or the numerous public domain games out there, or you can use it for NDS homebrew...I got mine from a site called easybuy2000. The X-ROM there requires a GBA to flash it, but it's probably one of the better priced cards around and I've had no problems with it at all.
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#48206 - jakerayfiel - Mon Jul 18, 2005 5:37 am
www.easybux2000.???
im not allowed to go touch that shiz, my dad will get pissed, ionno y... lol, but ill sneak in and do it!
NVM easybuy.com got it srry for noob Q's
kant find it on the site
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#48207 - jakerayfiel - Mon Jul 18, 2005 5:45 am
dlink isnt wireless but its on the lits, and thats is the router we use, but netgear aint on der, so ughh, u kan use routers?
and ive got belkin with that nuumber, and it aint a wireless router its just cable router...
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#48208 - The 9th Sage - Mon Jul 18, 2005 5:53 am
Didja try looking in the Nintendo section maybe? :P
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#48211 - jakerayfiel - Mon Jul 18, 2005 6:11 am
yeah, but no signs of it :(
omfg i wanna screw around with my ds its boring playing the real way :)
Edit: nvm found it
omfg kan i hack my Ds for Free and not for damn 70 buX
kan i make 1???
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#48212 - The 9th Sage - Mon Jul 18, 2005 6:15 am
| jakerayfiel wrote: |
yeah, but no signs of it :(
omfg i wanna screw around with my ds its boring playing the real way :)
Edit: nvm found it
omfg kan i hack my Ds for Free and not for damn 70 buX |
Oh, by the way, you want the set...you need that USB cable. You do have either a GBA, GBA SP, or GBA Player right? You need one of those to flash this particular flash cartridge. The USB would hook right into the GBA's link cable port.
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#48213 - jakerayfiel - Mon Jul 18, 2005 6:15 am
yeah, but is there a way to do it for FREE??
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#48215 - The 9th Sage - Mon Jul 18, 2005 6:25 am
| jakerayfiel wrote: |
| yeah, but is there a way to do it for FREE?? |
Nope, I'm afraid there's not...not at all. Zip, zilch, no way. Look at my first post in this thread....there are all the methods of flashing your NDS.
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#48219 - jakerayfiel - Mon Jul 18, 2005 6:40 am
thats the gayest shit ever omfg
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#48220 - The 9th Sage - Mon Jul 18, 2005 6:46 am
| Mihoshi wrote: |
| thats the gayest shit ever omfg |
*rolls eyes* I can hardly be blamed if you have no money.
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#48221 - Dwedit - Mon Jul 18, 2005 6:53 am
There is one more option... Send it away to This Guy.
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#48227 - chishm - Mon Jul 18, 2005 8:07 am
There is one more option, but it is dangerous, voids your waranty and requires soldering skills. It requires you to use darkfader's method of recovering a bricked DS. Probably should only be done as a final resort.
#48288 - The 9th Sage - Mon Jul 18, 2005 8:33 pm
| chishm wrote: |
| There is one more option, but it is dangerous, voids your waranty and requires soldering skills. It requires you to use darkfader's method of recovering a bricked DS. Probably should only be done as a final resort. |
I forgot about that...not really sure how to explain this to someone anyway, heh.
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#48309 - jakerayfiel - Tue Jul 19, 2005 12:46 am
tell me how tell me how!!!
or else ill just buy that one for 17 buX
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#48330 - jakerayfiel - Tue Jul 19, 2005 6:32 am
wow, how unpoulated is this forum, 14 hours and still no response RoFl...
answer plz
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#48347 - PowerCat - Tue Jul 19, 2005 1:08 pm
What are you, 13?
They are ignoring you.
Try to guess why.
#48348 - NoMis - Tue Jul 19, 2005 1:12 pm
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
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#48357 - FourScience - Tue Jul 19, 2005 2:28 pm
Specifically, see this section
More specifically, I quote:
| How To Ask Questions The Smart Way by Eric Steven Raymond wrote: |
| If you write like a semi-literate boob you will very likely be ignored. Writing like a l33t script kiddie hax0r is the absolute kiss of death and guarantees you will receive nothing but stony silence (or, at best, a heaping helping of scorn and sarcasm) in return. |
That we even pointed you to this shows we are actually interested in helping you. =)
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#48442 - jakerayfiel - Wed Jul 20, 2005 12:49 am
ur t3h dumbezt n00bz ever...
i asked for t3h fuxing s1t3 link, and u lil pussy ass 3rd graders r liek, learn how to talk, n00bs answer t3h fuX1ng Q's
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#48445 - tepples - Wed Jul 20, 2005 1:28 am
| jakerayfiel wrote: |
| ur t3h dumbezt n00bz ever... |
Did you know that you are talking to a mirror?
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#48446 - PhoenixSoft - Wed Jul 20, 2005 2:14 am
| jakerayfiel wrote: |
| ur t3h dumbezt n00bz ever... |
You are very misinformed. It is the 'n00bz' who talk like that, thinking it makes them sound cool, when actually, no one with an IQ above 80 talks like that.
#48447 - MrAdults - Wed Jul 20, 2005 2:25 am
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| ur t3h dumbezt n00bz ever... |
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#48449 - The 9th Sage - Wed Jul 20, 2005 2:56 am
| jakerayfiel wrote: |
ur t3h dumbezt n00bz ever...
i asked for t3h fuxing s1t3 link, and u lil pussy ass 3rd graders r liek, learn how to talk, n00bs answer t3h fuX1ng Q's |
Wow, I'm soo glad I spent some time on this forum trying to answer your questions. It was a rewarding experience, to be sure.
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#48451 - FourScience - Wed Jul 20, 2005 3:20 am
Am I the only one that finds this little cretin amusing? Where's the admin_llama command when you need it! Hahaha...
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#48456 - jakerayfiel - Wed Jul 20, 2005 4:56 am
ok im sorry guys, just plz gimmi link to darkvaders formware building thing, plz im sorry :( , as i said, im n00b to hacking ds, s0rrY
and ill stop the 1337 speak
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#48464 - chishm - Wed Jul 20, 2005 6:52 am
| jakerayfiel wrote: |
ok im sorry guys, just plz gimmi link to darkvaders formware building thing, plz im sorry :( , as i said, im n00b to hacking ds, s0rrY
and ill stop the 1337 speak |
If your talking about the method I mentioned, if you can't find the link yourself then you probably don't have the skills required. No offence, but i don't want to be responsible for you ruining your DS.
#48490 - dXtr - Wed Jul 20, 2005 12:33 pm
o_O;;
please lock this!! I can't stand seeing this conversation get anymore out of hand
#48498 - PowerCat - Wed Jul 20, 2005 1:27 pm
jakerayfiel, you'll never get an answer unless you ask questions in good grammatical form. You should also have correct spelling. Don't use abbreviations, use proper case, use commas and periods effectively and you might get an answer.
Also as noted before, you sound like you don't know much about computers in general, and doing these instructions will most likely make you ruin your DS.
#48499 - dirtmound - Wed Jul 20, 2005 1:29 pm
| jakerayfiel wrote: |
ok im sorry guys, just plz gimmi link to darkvaders formware building thing, plz im sorry :( , as i said, im n00b to hacking ds, s0rrY
and ill stop the 1337 speak |
What's a formware?
#48503 - FourScience - Wed Jul 20, 2005 1:53 pm
And who's this darkvader! Heheh, at least he reformed enough to ask politely.
Jake, you can do the leet speak, just keep it to circles that prefer it (not here). On hacker boards like this you just need to revert to proper English. You are also kind of expected to do the simple searching yourself. People came down on you mostly because of the annoying leet speak, but also because the answers to your questions are out there and you can find them by using Search on the forums.
9th helped you anway and generally you might be helped with easy questions if you're polite about it. chism told you not to try it and he mean that in a polite, considerate way. Hell, I wouldn't try it myself, and I have a half-clue about what to do! None of us want to see you kill your DS, especially if you lack the discretionary income (or the allowance) to finance a new one.
See if you can save enough for the right equipment (PassMe or PROPER WiFi card, see elsewhere for more info on what works) and a GBA cart. You can pull it off in under $90. If your parents might be unwilling, present it to them as a learning experience kind of thing and see how they react.
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#48546 - jakerayfiel - Wed Jul 20, 2005 6:48 pm
ok, first of all;
in hacker forums everyone speaks leet speak
second of all;
i have a soldering kit
third of all;
i may not have the skil but playing my ds is booooring as hell, so i might as well do somethign with it
fourth of all;
ive searched and found someone giving sum1 else a link to his site but its dead and i get a 404 error, is it that hard to help a noob or r u gonna be on ur assess all the time just flaming me cuz im a noob
and a reminder, ive been playing computer since i was four, now im 14, i have intense knowledge in c++,C#,python, and pearl, geez!
all i do from day to night, is play on my comp, i have no damn life, and no dont tell me to go kill myself what all the other noobs say, im just here for help and i was damn wrong thinking about u guys giving me it, a forum is where ppl help each other, not fucking flame the shit outta each other,me a litlelmingereend thereor in h fming thrd, but u guys r getting outta hand
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#48548 - FourScience - Wed Jul 20, 2005 7:08 pm
| jakerayfiel wrote: |
| in hacker forums everyone speaks leet speak |
...in forums you go to. In every forum I visit there is no leet speak unless someone is screwin around jokingly. As I said, speak it in circles that use it (and many do on the net), but don't annoy us with it. If you think that the majority of good programmers love the leet speak then you're terrible mistaken.
| jakerayfiel wrote: |
| here for help and i was damn wrong thinking about u guys giving me it, a forum is where ppl help each other, not fucking flame the shit outta each other,me a litlelmingereend thereor in h fming thrd, but u guys r getting outta hand |
Ah, you should thank 9th Sage for answering your first 10 questions. Learn to search.
The reality of it is, only a few people really know the answer to your last question. Most of us would have to search for it which is something you are rude to ask us to do. As your post has the "I have a noob question" subject line your chances of being answered by one of those few people is really low. Brush up on your forum etiquette; newbs are welcome here. If you look around there are dozens of posts here with even more newbish questions that were answered very swiftly. Polite, understandable English goes a long way.
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#48550 - jakerayfiel - Wed Jul 20, 2005 7:21 pm
i just set litterally an hour and i find the thread but its goddamn DEAD LINK,kan sum1 help plz or r u just gonna keep just wining at me, damn just give me the link and ill shutup, learn ppl learn what a forum is, and i bet the next 10 posts, are not gonna have the link either
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#48578 - tepples - Wed Jul 20, 2005 9:00 pm
What was your latest question again, phrased in understandable English?
To run DS homebrew on a Nintendo DS, you'll need either a compatible Wi-Fi card (which costs money) or a PassMe adapter and a flash card (which costs money). If you want to use Wi-Fi to run homebrew, and you only want to load homebrew when you're next to your PC (and possibly keep it in sleep mode elsewhere), then you'll need FlashMe. If you don't have a flash card, you'll need to find somebody else who is willing to flash your DS, either through the FlashMe Meetups thread or through the paid service that was advertised in some thread either here or on Pocket Heaven.
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#48691 - jakerayfiel - Thu Jul 21, 2005 8:13 pm
k but i need darkfader's link to making the firmware all i get is ded link, 7 more posts
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#48698 - Veg - Thu Jul 21, 2005 8:35 pm
I don't know what you're on about - but if you're wanting to make your own PassMe, the PCB plans and code are on Darkfader's site in plain view. All the links work fine.
This is the Eagle sch + pcb. But you need Eagle to read it.
But once you've made and programmed your PassMe, what are you planning to do with it? Are you going to build your own GBA flash cartridge too?
Because a PassMe isn't much good without one.
#48699 - natrium42 - Thu Jul 21, 2005 8:39 pm
| jakerayfiel wrote: |
| k but i need darkfader's link to making the firmware all i get is ded link, 7 more posts |
whatlinkareyoutalkingabout?couldyoupleaseprovidemoreinformationinyourposts?
itwouldbeeasierforustohelpyouifyourpostswouldbemoreclear
andifindspacesanuicanceandtooloongtotypewith
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#48701 - Dwedit - Thu Jul 21, 2005 8:49 pm
Your post looks like one from the gbafilm.com forum... Where their forum software is broken to the point that it removes all spaces from all subject lines.
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#48718 - kokido - Thu Jul 21, 2005 10:21 pm
I'm going to do my good deed for the day, I assume the darkfader firmware you refer to is now FlashMe which you can find here:
http://ds.gcdev.com/dsfirmware/
Of course to install that you will need either a PassMe and either a gba flashcard or a GBAMP or WiFiMe and a compatiable card (forum search for ralink). If you have none of these and are poor, the PassMe and GBAMP solution is cheapest.
I'm not trying to flame you here but I'm a little curious to your end goals here. You don't strike me as having the patience for ds homebrew, your creditantials might have been a little more impressive you you spelt perl right, way back when I was 14 I could spell. As far as I know you can't run commercial DS roms from flash yet, except of course some of the wireless demos gathered from conventions. The people here were trying to give you some sound advice, even if had a nasty tone most of the time. Whatever 'hacker' forums you have been to are'nt the real thing, forums like this are, keep that in mind.
#48744 - The 9th Sage - Fri Jul 22, 2005 1:17 am
| jakerayfiel wrote: |
| i just set litterally an hour and i find the thread but its goddamn DEAD LINK,kan sum1 help plz or r u just gonna keep just wining at me, damn just give me the link and ill shutup, learn ppl learn what a forum is, and i bet the next 10 posts, are not gonna have the link either |
I tried to help you with a lot of questions, but you want to be led every step of the way, not to mention biting the hand that feeds you isn't really the best way to incur sympathy...in all seriousness, if you just try a bit you'll realize this stuff isn't that hard, especially if you have as much experience as you say.
By the way, I linked you to FlashMe's homepage in my first post in this thread.
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#48747 - jakerayfiel - Fri Jul 22, 2005 1:46 am
i know 9th sage uve helped okok, chill, and guys, thx for the links, i searched and i got nowere, thanx guys for the help
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