#91210 - VoidStar - Wed Jul 05, 2006 9:30 am
Okay I got my ds lite last week and I'm really delighted with the investment. The hardware is fantastic and the first three games I'm really enjoying, Age of Empires, Advanced wars and Dawn of Sorrow. But the best thing I've seen is how big the ds homebrew community is. And I'm really looking forward to getting my teeth into some homebrew dev. I'm looking for the card which has the most compatability, I'm not particularly interested in pirate games as I'll just swap the three I have for others when I get bored of them. I'd also really like to watch movies on the ds. From all my looking around the best I've seen is the M3 compact flash version. This seems to have the most compatability and you can fit a movie or two on a 1 gig flash card. I know there's probably been 100 posts like this already but I had a search and didn't find anything that really answered whether or not the M3 was the best buy.
#91219 - gm112 - Wed Jul 05, 2006 11:20 am
As of I know supercart is a good deal. It's cheap and it's good to go with passme2 =P.
#91245 - The 9th Sage - Wed Jul 05, 2006 4:47 pm
| VoidStar wrote: |
| Okay I got my ds lite last week and I'm really delighted with the investment. The hardware is fantastic and the first three games I'm really enjoying, Age of Empires, Advanced wars and Dawn of Sorrow. But the best thing I've seen is how big the ds homebrew community is. And I'm really looking forward to getting my teeth into some homebrew dev. I'm looking for the card which has the most compatability, I'm not particularly interested in pirate games as I'll just swap the three I have for others when I get bored of them. I'd also really like to watch movies on the ds. From all my looking around the best I've seen is the M3 compact flash version. This seems to have the most compatability and you can fit a movie or two on a 1 gig flash card. I know there's probably been 100 posts like this already but I had a search and didn't find anything that really answered whether or not the M3 was the best buy. |
For cheapness, the GBAMP/MML (Max Media Launcher) combo is probably cheapest. You aren't going to have compatibility with ds.gba homebrew though, at least the kind that expects to run from a GBA flashcart.
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#91319 - VoidStar - Thu Jul 06, 2006 8:41 am
So an m3 is the best to go with for homebrew compatability?
#91322 - Sausage Boy - Thu Jul 06, 2006 9:29 am
Really, the games that need to be ds.gba's are like, 2 piss old programs or something. Most of the games worth playing have been modifyed to use the FAT library anyways, which means it can be played on just about anything.
Buying an M3 over the GBAMP to get support for ds.gba roms is throwing your money away.
The GBAMP is probably the most FAT lib compatible device, as the maker of the FAT lib also wrote the GBAMP's modifyed firmware that allows it to play DS homebrew.
HOWEVER, it's butt ugly and sticks out about 200km's from your DS. If I were you, I'd wait for some device that fits nicely in the DS Lite's gba slot, or even better, the DS slot.
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#91338 - JaJa - Thu Jul 06, 2006 3:26 pm
M3 doesn't have the best homebrew compatbility at all.
There are many reports that most homebrew is broken on M3.
There are work arounds, but some programs aren't supported anymore and will remain broken (the screen power thing for example).
GBA homebrew support is reportedly just as bad. However that could be fixed in future firmwares
Unless you want to do some yarrring, don't bother.
Personally I feel the GBAMP + MML is the best combo.
But if you have money to burn go for it.
Otherwise if your really do want to run GBA homebrew then go Supercard and MML. It's cheaper and offers all the functions of the M3 with better compatibility. It's cheaper to boot. It's one flaw is due to cost, they've used cheap and high power consuming chips.
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#91347 - tepples - Thu Jul 06, 2006 4:44 pm
| Sausage Boy wrote: |
| Really, the games that need to be ds.gba's are like, 2 piss old programs or something. Most of the games worth playing have been modifyed to use the FAT library anyways, which means it can be played on just about anything. |
There are more than two. Off hand, I can think of Heretic, Hexen, SnezziDS, and TickleGirl. In addition, most GBA-mode homebrew is .gba, not .mb.gba.
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| If I were you, I'd wait for some device that fits nicely in the DS Lite's gba slot, or even better, the DS slot. |
SLOT-1 cards worry me, as they are unable to run GBA homebrew. If all the flash card makers stop making SLOT-2 cards in favor of SLOT-1 cards, this may contribute to the decline of the GBA homebrew scene just as the unavailability of GBC cards has contributed to the decline of the GBC homebrew scene.
That said, I wrote the beginning of a DS Shopping List that just happens to be on a site that appears marginally forbidden.
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#91354 - MrD - Thu Jul 06, 2006 5:07 pm
Another vote for the Supercard CF combo. Although I don't have one personally, I know somebody who has.
I have a Supercard SD combo, w/FlashMe v7 on a normal DS.
I was confused about some of the specifics of using the Supercard for homebrew, so I had a go at writing a guide of sorts.
Long story short: Supercard CF seems to be compatible with everything currently available. Supercard SD-friendly homebrew isn't very widespread. DS applications that save to SRAM and aren't filesystem aware (such as Beup's account saving) will work with the Supercard SD if you use the QPC sequence.
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#91428 - The 9th Sage - Fri Jul 07, 2006 4:11 am
| JaJa wrote: |
GBA homebrew support is reportedly just as bad. However that could be fixed in future firmwares |
I keep seeing people say this, but I have still had no problems with it. Only time I did was once when I accidentally ran a bit of homebrew through the M3's patcher software.
It's kind of driving me crazy, since I'd love to know why these people are having problems...I highly doubt I have 'the One M3 to rule them all' or something of that nature. ;)
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#91434 - quadomatic - Fri Jul 07, 2006 5:42 am
gbamp is plenty good, but yea, it sticks out of the ds really bad. I would maybe wait for the transflash card from over at the dslinux camp. It doesn't jut out at all (well, in a ds lite it would, as its the size of a regular gba cart) and it has very low battery power usage. I'm not sure how good it's compatibility will be though.
#91436 - Critical_Impact - Fri Jul 07, 2006 5:44 am
| MrD wrote: |
Another vote for the Supercard CF combo. Although I don't have one personally, I know somebody who has.
I have a Supercard SD combo, w/FlashMe v7 on a normal DS.
I was confused about some of the specifics of using the Supercard for homebrew, so I had a go at writing a guide of sorts.
Long story short: Supercard CF seems to be compatible with everything currently available. Supercard SD-friendly homebrew isn't very widespread. DS applications that save to SRAM and aren't filesystem aware (such as Beup's account saving) will work with the Supercard SD if you use the QPC sequence. |
I swear to god this topic feels like its a couple of months old with some of the replies im hearing. SC SD works fine with most homebrew now.
From what i've heard M3 is supposed to have the best gba compatability because of the faster ram being used in it hence the price of it.
I'd suggest getting a mini-sd sc or a m3 sd as sc cf sticks out a fair amount
#91438 - tepples - Fri Jul 07, 2006 5:49 am
| Critical_Impact wrote: |
| I swear to god this topic feels like its a couple of months old |
This is because the latest public version of Chishm's FAT library is also "a couple of months old" which in turn is because Chishm is busy rewriting the whole thing. What other file system library supports writing to the SD card in the various SD adapters?
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#91457 - MrD - Fri Jul 07, 2006 8:36 am
| Critical_Impact wrote: |
| I swear to god this topic feels like its a couple of months old with some of the replies im hearing. SC SD works fine with most homebrew now. |
Not with Nitrotracker, and not with DSOrganise. In fact, I'm yet to find a SCSD-specific (not SRAM based) saving system that works.
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#91460 - VoidStar - Fri Jul 07, 2006 8:50 am
Phew I'm glad that's cleared up all the confusion surrounding the decision. :). Actually I began looking at flashcards for homebrew, and it wasn't until I saw that ds shopping list that I realised "yarring" was even possible. Still not interested, I work as a software developer so its really shooting myself in the foot if I steal other people's code. Well I'm not too pushed about the cart sticking out so much so I wont go with the m3.
Time for a stupid question are GBAMP + MML and supercard CF the same thing?
#91484 - MiL0 - Fri Jul 07, 2006 1:48 pm
| MrD wrote: |
| Critical_Impact wrote: | | I swear to god this topic feels like its a couple of months old with some of the replies im hearing. SC SD works fine with most homebrew now. |
Not with Nitrotracker, and not with DSOrganise. In fact, I'm yet to find a SCSD-specific (not SRAM based) saving system that works. |
well yeah, the saving doesn't work but they're otherwise very useable! :P
as for the tepple's wiki - how does it encourage piracy? all the mention of roms can be legally attributed to using backups... something that I do. Who wants to carry around loads of NDS carts when they can all sit happily on one SD card? (I realise that not everyone pays for their games but other peoples dishonesty shouldn't be enough of a reason to not link to a very informative wiki imo)
/rant over
#91486 - tepples - Fri Jul 07, 2006 1:53 pm
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| I agree totally and it's not the first time I've complained about that site being linked here. The forum rules quite clearly state "No links to sites offering/relating to piracy/warez." |
Pocket Heaven also has a policy of talking about warez but never linking to warez. In fact, they even consider the E3 demos to be warez. As I was never able to get SimonB to clarify what "relating to" is supposed to mean, I just mentally dropped it.
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