#97095 - Xtreme - Mon Aug 07, 2006 11:07 pm
I read that there is this new DS flashcard. It uses MicroSD cards.
DSLink - DS Cart Sized Flashcart With microSD Support!
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#97111 - quadomatic - Tue Aug 08, 2006 1:21 am
cool. Do u kno how much it is and where it can be purchased?
#97113 - Darkwind_776 - Tue Aug 08, 2006 1:38 am
Umm, not to be nit-picky, but is there a picture of the Cart outside of the DS slot?
#97117 - josath - Tue Aug 08, 2006 1:50 am
| Xtreme wrote: |
| the First real DS flashcard |
So all the flash cards up to now, including the several DS-slot only ones, are not 'real'?
#97118 - Xtreme - Tue Aug 08, 2006 1:54 am
| quadomatic wrote: |
| cool. Do u kno how much it is and where it can be purchased? |
No idea.
| Darkwind_776 wrote: |
| Umm, not to be nit-picky, but is there a picture of the Cart outside of the DS slot? |
I don't know. Maybe later.
| josath wrote: |
| Xtreme wrote: | | the First real DS flashcard |
So all the flash cards up to now, including the several DS-slot only ones, are not 'real'? |
Haha, true. Misleading subject, sorry. I meant real DS card sized flashcard. GBA slot ones are not flashcards, they are flashcarts.
Oh, and Card and Cartridge is not the same.
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#97140 - tepples - Tue Aug 08, 2006 4:38 am
| Xtreme wrote: |
GBA slot ones are not flashcards, they are flashcarts.
Oh, and Card and Cartridge is not the same.
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Where is this terminology documented?
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#97150 - CubeGuy - Tue Aug 08, 2006 6:10 am
| tepples wrote: |
| Where is this terminology documented? |
I've always used those terms in that way. *shrugs*
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#97170 - JaJa - Tue Aug 08, 2006 9:29 am
I think the whole card vs. cart thing is about form factor.
Compact Flash Cards
GBA Carts
Secure Digital Cards
Atari 2600 Carts
Although, I must admit, a CF card is bigger than a GBA cart.
Maybe it's the internals?
Anyway, there have already been a couple of devices that act as a Slot-1 flashcard (or as a NoPass), but none have accepted MicroSD cards.
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#97171 - Xtreme - Tue Aug 08, 2006 10:32 am
| tepples wrote: |
| Xtreme wrote: | GBA slot ones are not flashcards, they are flashcarts.
Oh, and Card and Cartridge is not the same.
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Where is this terminology documented? |
I might be wrong, but I tought card is documented in wiki like also carts. But maybe you mean how to see a difference between card and cart. As that "card" has different guts than the others, maybe it should be called as a hybrid card instead. :-)
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#97192 - JaJa - Tue Aug 08, 2006 1:39 pm
Hmmm.
Could the difference be that Carts are directly memory mapped, and Cards aren't?
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#97237 - josath - Tue Aug 08, 2006 8:30 pm
| Xtreme wrote: |
| josath wrote: | | Xtreme wrote: | | the First real DS flashcard |
So all the flash cards up to now, including the several DS-slot only ones, are not 'real'? |
Haha, true. Misleading subject, sorry. I meant real DS card sized flashcard. GBA slot ones are not flashcards, they are flashcarts.
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What about the "Ultra Flashpass" or the "Ninjapass DS"? They both are the size of actual DS cards, and are actually available for sale now, unlike this mythical device which doesn't even have a picture outside of the ds.
#97242 - GBAJAY - Tue Aug 08, 2006 9:02 pm
where do I buy!!!
#97247 - tepples - Tue Aug 08, 2006 9:09 pm
| GBAJAY wrote: |
| where do I buy!!! |
Under the forum rules, "where do I buy?" can be answered only with "Check each retailer in Retailer Feedback one-by-one yourself."
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#97249 - Xtreme - Tue Aug 08, 2006 9:32 pm
| josath wrote: |
| What about the "Ultra Flashpass" or the "Ninjapass DS"? They both are the size of actual DS cards, and are actually available for sale now, unlike this mythical device which doesn't even have a picture outside of the ds. |
Thanks for the tip, I didn't know of such devices exists already. Do you know if you can run homebrew stuff on them, like MoonShell?
I'm waiting to hear more of this DSLink as it could be killer card with MoonShell. There are already 2GByte MicroSD cards and they only cost around $120 (or even less). :-)
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#97253 - tepples - Tue Aug 08, 2006 9:42 pm
The SLOT-1 flash cards are not yet supported by Chishm's FAT Classic or New FAT libraries. (Yes, the Coke analogy was intentional.) When such support is added, these SLOT-1 cards will be compatible with MoonShell, DSOrganize, and everything else that works on a GBA Movie Player v2 CF.
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#97256 - Dan2552 - Tue Aug 08, 2006 9:50 pm
| tepples wrote: |
| The SLOT-1 flash cards are not yet supported by Chishm's FAT Classic or New FAT libraries. (Yes, the Coke analogy was intentional.) When such support is added, these SLOT-1 cards will be compatible with MoonShell, DSOrganize, and everything else that works on a GBA Movie Player v2 CF. |
When that comes possible I might consider buying one to replace my GBAMP...
#97259 - jester - Tue Aug 08, 2006 10:01 pm
by the end of the month hopefully i was told i think its end of the month for china and september for us lot.
#97279 - Rain - Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:50 pm
| Quote: |
Problem with this device is that it needs your DS to be flashed in order to work! It doesn't function as a Nopass device. So get our your tin foil and toothpicks!
You will also have to patch the roms like current flashcart solutions.
Good news is that this product should be releasing by the end of the month. |
Source: http://scdev.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5404&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
Sux000rz.. :(
Anyway, somebody just needs to cram a nopass in there and we're good to go.
#97281 - tepples - Wed Aug 09, 2006 12:00 am
But putting a NoPass card in the same box would increase the price, and distributing a NoPass card containing FlashMe firmware might be even more likely to draw lawsuits from Nintendo in the same way that Xbox modchips containing a modified copy of Xbox firmware drew lawsuits from Microsoft. But they could use a similar solution to that used by the NeoFlash company: insert Magic Key 4, turn on DS, swap to Magic Key 2, run homebrew.
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#97285 - adrian783 - Wed Aug 09, 2006 12:56 am
| josath wrote: |
| Xtreme wrote: |
| josath wrote: | | Xtreme wrote: | | the First real DS flashcard |
So all the flash cards up to now, including the several DS-slot only ones, are not 'real'? |
Haha, true. Misleading subject, sorry. I meant real DS card sized flashcard. GBA slot ones are not flashcards, they are flashcarts.
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What about the "Ultra Flashpass" or the "Ninjapass DS"? They both are the size of actual DS cards, and are actually available for sale now, unlike this mythical device which doesn't even have a picture outside of the ds. |
key is external storage.
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#97291 - josath - Wed Aug 09, 2006 2:40 am
| tepples wrote: |
| The SLOT-1 flash cards are not yet supported by Chishm's FAT Classic or New FAT libraries. (Yes, the Coke analogy was intentional.) When such support is added, these SLOT-1 cards will be compatible with MoonShell, DSOrganize, and everything else that works on a GBA Movie Player v2 CF. |
I'm pretty sure it supports the MagicKey2/3, at least to some extent (I always see it listed in the 'supported, untested' category). And that's a SLOT-1 card (sure it may suck terribly, but it was the first SLOT-1 adaptor)
#97292 - Xtreme - Wed Aug 09, 2006 3:05 am
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#97324 - Lynx - Wed Aug 09, 2006 5:29 am
| tepples wrote: |
| and distributing a NoPass card containing FlashMe firmware might be even more likely to draw lawsuits from Nintendo in the same way that Xbox modchips containing a modified copy of Xbox firmware drew lawsuits from Microsoft. |
The whole reason I never distributed FlashMe.. but.. what about FWNitro? Would it draw the same lawsuits?
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#97342 - JaJa - Wed Aug 09, 2006 10:16 am
Why?
Does it contain Nintendo code?
I thought it was like Cromwell Bios on XBox, a brand new free bios/firmware?
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#97345 - chishm - Wed Aug 09, 2006 10:22 am
| tepples wrote: |
| The SLOT-1 flash cards are not yet supported by Chishm's FAT Classic or New FAT libraries. (Yes, the Coke analogy was intentional.) When such support is added, these SLOT-1 cards will be compatible with MoonShell, DSOrganize, and everything else that works on a GBA Movie Player v2 CF. |
Both MK2/3 and NinjaDS are supported. Also, libfat tastes much better than gba_nds_fat.
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#97354 - gameiso01 - Wed Aug 09, 2006 12:01 pm
#97370 - tepples - Wed Aug 09, 2006 2:15 pm
| Lynx wrote: |
| tepples wrote: | | and distributing a NoPass card containing FlashMe firmware might be even more likely to draw lawsuits from Nintendo in the same way that Xbox modchips containing a modified copy of Xbox firmware drew lawsuits from Microsoft. |
The whole reason I never distributed FlashMe.. but.. what about FWNitro? Would it draw the same lawsuits? |
As soon as FWNITRO supports the DS Download Play protocol and the PictoChat protocool...
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| Also, libfat tastes much better than gba_nds_fat. |
A file system without opendir() is like a cola without any sweetener.
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#97401 - Dan2552 - Wed Aug 09, 2006 4:13 pm
| chishm wrote: |
| tepples wrote: | | The SLOT-1 flash cards are not yet supported by Chishm's FAT Classic or New FAT libraries. (Yes, the Coke analogy was intentional.) When such support is added, these SLOT-1 cards will be compatible with MoonShell, DSOrganize, and everything else that works on a GBA Movie Player v2 CF. |
Both MK2/3 and NinjaDS are supported. Also, libfat tastes much better than gba_nds_fat. |
So if I buy a NinjaDS I can do everything like I can from my GBAMP2, but without the sticking-out-ness?
#97427 - MiL0 - Wed Aug 09, 2006 6:23 pm
| tepples wrote: |
| The SLOT-1 flash cards are not yet supported by Chishm's FAT Classic or New FAT libraries. (Yes, the Coke analogy was intentional.) When such support is added, these SLOT-1 cards will be compatible with MoonShell, DSOrganize, and everything else that works on a GBA Movie Player v2 CF. |
hmm what about the NinjaPass DS Flash? Isn't that basically the same thing as a regular DS cart except u can write to it?
#97429 - MaHe - Wed Aug 09, 2006 6:27 pm
NinjaPass is made for 'yarr' only, and mostly incompatible with homebrew.
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#97471 - josath - Thu Aug 10, 2006 1:15 am
Note that NinjaPass DS is NOT the same as NinjaDS.
NinjaPass DS = looks like a clone of UltraFlashPass. A flash-only cart with small amount of storage, no removable cards. size of a regular DS cart.
NinjaDS = Takes (mini? micro? regular? not sure) SD cards and sticks out of the DS slot. Also apparently supported by libfat (according to the above chishm post), but I didn't even realize NinjaDS was available yet.
#97714 - Kudaku - Fri Aug 11, 2006 6:05 am
| Xtreme wrote: |
| tepples wrote: | | Xtreme wrote: | GBA slot ones are not flashcards, they are flashcarts.
Oh, and Card and Cartridge is not the same.
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Where is this terminology documented? |
I might be wrong, but I tought card is documented in wiki like also carts. But maybe you mean how to see a difference between card and cart. As that "card" has different guts than the others, maybe it should be called as a hybrid card instead. :-) |
lol i read that and you know how much of a tounge twister that is
#97787 - Xtreme - Fri Aug 11, 2006 3:17 pm
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| lol i read that and you know how much of a tounge twister that is |
Yeah, don't get me too serious. :) Life is so sad already.
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#98247 - jester - Mon Aug 14, 2006 9:50 am
anyway back to the topic the DSLink
#98449 - Xtreme - Tue Aug 15, 2006 10:03 am
I'm thinking that DS-X DS-Xtreme is like G6 flash. DS-X DS-Xtreme has that mini USB connector, but it's not very useful as you also need a cable and it's not very portable (unless there is really small USB link cables). With DSLink you only need to have Iogear Micro SD USB reader or Non-Brand Micro SD USB reader, they are really small. You can store that reader in your DS Lite's pouch bag.
DSLink is better for media use (music,video,etc). Sadly they didn't integrate passme 2.
I haven't find any english reviews, but I hope that DSLink is a killer adapter. :)
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#98487 - Extreme Coder - Tue Aug 15, 2006 4:09 pm
Xtreme: I'm sure it would be awesome feeling that you're plugging your DS to the PC(when the DS-X is in it of course).
And aren't you supposed to support the DS-Xtreme flashcard,hence your name?:P(j/k)
#98713 - Xtreme - Thu Aug 17, 2006 1:03 am
| Extreme Coder wrote: |
Xtreme: I'm sure it would be awesome feeling that you're plugging your DS to the PC(when the DS-X is in it of course).
And aren't you supposed to support the DS-Xtreme flashcard,hence your name?:P(j/k) |
Because of my nickname, nah. :)
I have read that someone claims that DS-Xtreme will be released August 20th. Roms have to be patched to work. It has no Nopass solution inside (you need to flash your firmware with flashme to run homebrew). I hope it writes faster to Micro SD card than M3 SD with it's slow 83ms compared to CF's 0.17ms. I'll just read the reviews first and then decide if I buy one.
Might be that other companies like M3 is going to make similar adapter later.
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#99189 - Extreme Coder - Sun Aug 20, 2006 12:01 am
| Xtreme wrote: |
I have read that someone claims that DS-Xtreme will be released August 20th. Roms have to be patched to work. It has no Nopass solution inside (you need to flash your firmware with flashme to run homebrew). I hope it writes faster to Micro SD card than M3 SD with it's slow 83ms compared to CF's 0.17ms. I'll just read the reviews first and then decide if I buy one.
Might be that other companies like M3 is going to make similar adapter later. |
I think you're referring to the DSLink..
#99209 - Xtreme - Sun Aug 20, 2006 1:39 am
Yes, true, and it's the topic of this thread (so it should be obvious), DSLink.
I hope ediy ppl releases the source of their adapter's fat library to write/write in the Micro SD.
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#99558 - doedill - Tue Aug 22, 2006 11:43 am
knowing that ds-xtreme and dslink doesn't have built in passme. Do you think it's possible for it to act as a passme if it ran a passme dump?
just an idea that just came to me
#99565 - dualscreenman - Tue Aug 22, 2006 1:09 pm
A PassMe isn't like a gamecard, it doesn't have anything to dump.
And I thought DS-Xtreme was a NoPass-RW?
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#99631 - doedill - Tue Aug 22, 2006 7:31 pm
| dualscreenman wrote: |
A PassMe isn't like a gamecard, it doesn't have anything to dump.
And I thought DS-Xtreme was a NoPass-RW? |
well I've seen dumps online for passcard 3 and max media launcher
#99634 - jester - Tue Aug 22, 2006 9:00 pm
The DS-Xtreme is a NoPass RW and with the official news of a USB Debugger all of the homebrew developers will be looking to make their games work to this advantage i will definately be looking into getting one i have heard that they will be sending the deice to some people for reviewing i hope its gets reviewed soon so i can buy it!
#101496 - Xtreme - Tue Sep 05, 2006 11:34 pm
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#101576 - MechaBouncer - Wed Sep 06, 2006 5:08 pm
Wait a second...
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| As you can see one can see that it uses MicroSD, has 4M flash memory, is capable of GBA link using a zip file and logically also the normal GBA link and it probably also states that you will need to flash your DS. |
And...
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| Note: DSlink only plays DS games, not GBA! But .gba files are detected, probably because of the GBA link function. |
What does this mean by GBA link? Is there also a GBA Link flashcart or something?
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#101578 - JaJa - Wed Sep 06, 2006 5:52 pm
I think that means you can get unlockables that need a GBA card.
Such as Rub Rabbits unlocks stuff if you have Sega GBA games.
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#101593 - MechaBouncer - Wed Sep 06, 2006 8:19 pm
Oh, okay. So it sounds like it can access those features without needing the GBA cart at all. Could also mean like how Metroid Prime Pinball and Hunters use the rumble pack? Or how Opera uses the memory expansion? Although those don't have *.gba files associated with them, but I would think that they would work.
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#101599 - josath - Wed Sep 06, 2006 8:28 pm
| MechaBouncer wrote: |
| Oh, okay. So it sounds like it can access those features without needing the GBA cart at all. Could also mean like how Metroid Prime Pinball and Hunters use the rumble pack? Or how Opera uses the memory expansion? Although those don't have *.gba files associated with them, but I would think that they would work. |
Yeah...I'm sure you can magically get rumble features by downloading RumbleCartRom.gba from some dodgy website and putting it on your ds-slot flashcart.
#101609 - dualscreenman - Wed Sep 06, 2006 9:24 pm
Methinks gba link is using option paks like the rumble pack, etc?
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#101635 - MechaBouncer - Wed Sep 06, 2006 11:14 pm
Ha ha. Obviously you'll need the rumble pack and memory expansion pack to use those. I was just thinking out loud that they could probably work in addition to regular GBA games in the slot to unlock features, except in the case of the GBA games, a ROM could be used.
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#101644 - josath - Wed Sep 06, 2006 11:35 pm
well...enough talk about roms this and roms that...let's just hope they release the needed docs/source code so chishm can add support to libfat
#102209 - neonext - Mon Sep 11, 2006 8:55 pm
it appears these have finally hit the market. anyone got one yet?
#102247 - Kir - Tue Sep 12, 2006 6:33 am
My sample of DSLink will arrive in 4 days. There was delay in shipping, because chinese version that i ordered was replaced by international (english). It costs a bit more than chinese, but because of shipment delay chinese distributor has left price unchanged for my vendor :) By the way, DSLink is one of cheapest flash card adapters on the market - about 23 USD (in China), thats including microSD USB Cardreader. But set that i ordered (DSLink + 1Gb microSD Sandisk card) got a much higher price - 3000 roubles (about 112$ ). Talk about shipping cost and vendor's margin :(
#102278 - neonext - Tue Sep 12, 2006 3:17 pm
yea the microSD card definitally pushes up the price (i ordered the same thing as you). most people don't have microSD cards yet. i'm curious as to what you think when you finally get it, as it will be probably be awhile till mine arrives
#102321 - quadomatic - Tue Sep 12, 2006 11:53 pm
does anyone know where you can buy DSLink?
#102387 - neonext - Wed Sep 13, 2006 3:15 pm
Read the review on the previous page
#102421 - quadomatic - Wed Sep 13, 2006 11:31 pm
that place charges 50 some dollars.
Kir: Where did u buy it from? And how do you know it sells for $23?
#102459 - Kir - Thu Sep 14, 2006 6:02 am
| quadomatic wrote: |
that place charges 50 some dollars.
Kir: Where did u buy it from? And how do you know it sells for $23? |
Look here. It's a chinese distributor. The price of DSLink is 296 yuan, which is about 33$ (it has changed since my last visit, previously it was about 23$).
I've ordered it from my local Moscow vendor - he'd ordered a small party of DSLink (5 pieces) from his Chinese contacts.
#104739 - Kir - Mon Oct 02, 2006 6:17 am
I've received my DSLink two days ago (there was a little delay at customs). All I can say for now - all "yarr" stuff working great, there's customized version of Moonshell, part of homebrew programs work (all of them who don't use fatlib). Hope that eDiy will release drivers for DSLink, so Chishm would be able to add it in fatlib.
#104890 - josath - Tue Oct 03, 2006 8:50 pm
| Kir wrote: |
| I've received my DSLink two days ago (there was a little delay at customs). All I can say for now - all "yarr" stuff working great, there's customized version of Moonshell, part of homebrew programs work (all of them who don't use fatlib). Hope that eDiy will release drivers for DSLink, so Chishm would be able to add it in fatlib. |
Have you emailed them to request the source code to said drivers? If not, you should, especially since you are one of their customers.
#104920 - Kir - Wed Oct 04, 2006 7:15 am
Yes, i've just sent an e-mail to eDiy. Hope they'll answer me.
#105118 - Sektor - Fri Oct 06, 2006 6:39 am
| tepples wrote: |
| The SLOT-1 flash cards are not yet supported by Chishm's FAT Classic or New FAT libraries. |
NinjaDS is supported by libfat and DS-X claims it works with existing FAT lib (they got DSOrganize working without any changes). MK2/MK3 are also supported.
I don't know about DSLink or the others. Fortunately some of these devices are just clones of others, so some work with existing code.
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#110280 - Kir - Mon Nov 27, 2006 2:40 pm
In a recent release of Image Viewer ( Ver0.5 ) by Infantile Paralysiser there was a something interesting in a changelog - "Corresponded to EZ4/DSLink. I wish to express my deep gratitude to Rudolph"
So i've downloaded sources, found DSLink driver in a "ThirdPartyDriver" folder, and tried to integrate it into a freshly released PictoDrive 0.1.6.
Pictodrive has compiled just fine, without any errors. I don't have microSD reader at my workplace, so i'll test it on a hardware as soon as I come home.
#110465 - Extreme Coder - Tue Nov 28, 2006 8:12 pm
What are you waiting for then? Inform Chishm immediately!
But I hope this isn't a case similar to the EZ4 previous drivers( read only, not complete,etc..)
#110561 - Kir - Wed Nov 29, 2006 6:44 am
Hmm... the PicoDrive version 0.1.6 I compiled doesn't work on a hardware... Empty directory listing and it hangs after pressing A button. But I think its because of my lack of skill (i only added 6 lines of code in 2 files, guess its'not enough :) ), not a driver's fault.
EDIT: As i thought, i had skipped one block of code (adapter type detection) in disk_io.c , that was very stupid of me :( Hope this time PicoDrive will work fine.
#110752 - Kir - Fri Dec 01, 2006 6:53 am
Yes, now i can confirm : this driver suports both reading & writing to microSD card. Picodrive runs perfectly - with save/load completely working.