#97572 - darkfader - Thu Aug 10, 2006 3:31 pm
Take a look at http://DS-X.com/
Looking at the flash movie, it seems like a new DS flashcard is coming out.
And it has a built-in mini USB port for plug and play.
#97575 - dualscreenman - Thu Aug 10, 2006 3:54 pm
Cool, I wonder how much it costs.
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#97576 - quadomatic - Thu Aug 10, 2006 3:56 pm
I wonder if it will live up to all the shit it just put out there.
I'll bet it'll cost a pretty penny though, considering it's not using sd cards or anything like that.
#97589 - walaber - Thu Aug 10, 2006 5:42 pm
sounds very close to a retail DS card, which should be good for compatibility.
a single-card solution like this would be really nice, I will probably order one if the price is right.
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#97594 - dj-ceejay - Thu Aug 10, 2006 6:04 pm
That looks cool! I want one. Is there anything stopping them creating a copy of a retail DS cartridge if they're not N? Or do they get around it by being almost the same?
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#97608 - jester - Thu Aug 10, 2006 7:29 pm
well it looks very interesting i will wait till it gets released it will be better than that DSlink as it doesnt need any media at all but you will probably be only able to format in fat32 probably i think they might release it in September
#97611 - HtheB - Thu Aug 10, 2006 7:44 pm
euh.. how about no warez: mod?
#97616 - Sunray - Thu Aug 10, 2006 8:15 pm
DS Link is not a pass device IIRC.
#97620 - HtheB - Thu Aug 10, 2006 8:52 pm
| Sunray wrote: |
| DS Link is not a pass device IIRC. |
what do you mean?
its a flashcard! and it doesnt need a pass thingy
#97621 - jester - Thu Aug 10, 2006 8:55 pm
the next generation wont need pass things what should we call them
Nopass 2?
#97635 - Dan2552 - Thu Aug 10, 2006 10:03 pm
| jester wrote: |
the next generation wont need pass things what should we call them
Nopass 2? |
DS-flash carts/cards ?
This looks awesome.
#97640 - tepples - Thu Aug 10, 2006 10:10 pm
That or "NoPass-RW".
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#97676 - Sunray - Thu Aug 10, 2006 11:13 pm
| HtheB wrote: |
| Sunray wrote: | | DS Link is not a pass device IIRC. |
what do you mean?
its a flashcard! and it doesnt need a pass thingy |
From what I've understood you need a FlashMe'ed DS to run DS code from DS Link. With DS-X you don't. Correct me if I'm wrong.
#97679 - Dan2552 - Thu Aug 10, 2006 11:27 pm
| Sunray wrote: |
| HtheB wrote: | | Sunray wrote: | | DS Link is not a pass device IIRC. |
what do you mean?
its a flashcard! and it doesnt need a pass thingy |
From what I've understood you need a FlashMe'ed DS to run DS code from DS Link. With DS-X you don't. Correct me if I'm wrong. |
the rumours say that you do need Flashme installed already for DS link. Quite silly IMO.
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#97692 - Xtreme - Fri Aug 11, 2006 2:17 am
| HtheB wrote: |
| euh.. how about no warez |
That site has ROMz! Pirate copies!
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#97697 - Snowy? - Fri Aug 11, 2006 3:00 am
Wow they would sell out if their device added a USB port to the DS
Well 16 GB and 32 GB Ipod Nano sized MP3 players are supposed to be comming before Xmas fo I'll bet they release these a few different capacities over time (on second thoughts they might be liniting the size due to power limitations)
No GBA play though :(
I wonder if this 'Operating system' is capable of being added too (plugins maybe)
#97718 - GBAJAY - Fri Aug 11, 2006 7:44 am
Ill pass on this I mean 4Gibit?(512Mb) whats the heck can I do with this? I rather get me a pass me and a DSlink with a 1 or 2GB sdmicro
#97721 - adrian783 - Fri Aug 11, 2006 8:19 am
ive yet to find what a 512MB storage cant do on a ds...
#97722 - jester - Fri Aug 11, 2006 8:41 am
they might add more sizes it hope like 1Gb or 2GB
#97807 - CubeGuy - Fri Aug 11, 2006 6:11 pm
| adrian783 wrote: |
| ive yet to find what a 512MB storage cant do on a ds... |
I've been spoiled with moonshell and my 1GB CF card. I likes me my movies.
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#97812 - jester - Fri Aug 11, 2006 6:58 pm
well 512Mb would be a little small but 2G would do me
#97831 - tepples - Fri Aug 11, 2006 8:36 pm
| adrian783 wrote: |
| ive yet to find what a 512MB storage cant do on a ds... |
Peter Jackson's The Lord of the Rings.
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#97837 - jester - Fri Aug 11, 2006 8:58 pm
well 512MB isnt all that bad i suppose i am just waiting for the release date!
#97856 - Dan2552 - Fri Aug 11, 2006 10:49 pm
512MB is about twice as much as my CF card :D
#97860 - Mrshlee - Fri Aug 11, 2006 11:23 pm
512 meg of homebrew... mmmm ;)
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#97892 - Darkwind_776 - Sat Aug 12, 2006 4:47 am
512 mb is pretty good for home brew stuff, and some small sized movies and music
#97932 - jester - Sat Aug 12, 2006 12:05 pm
well the difference between this and the next dslink is that dslink needs a flashed ds and it needs the roms to be patched using its pc software whereas this device doesnt need any software it will be well worth the wait and technically it should have 100% homebrew and nds compatibility!!
#97960 - DimondEdge - Sat Aug 12, 2006 3:54 pm
Hmm... that looks pretty cool. I've been wanting to do something like this for a while, but I don't have any knowledge of circutry/hardware what so ever.
I wounder how they made it a passthrough also? Maybe built in to the firmware?
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#97967 - Scorpei - Sat Aug 12, 2006 4:48 pm
| jester wrote: |
| well the difference between this and the next dslink is that dslink needs a flashed ds and it needs the roms to be patched using its pc software whereas this device doesnt need any software it will be well worth the wait and technically it should have 100% homebrew and nds compatibility!! |
100% homebrew?
What makes you think that?
#97973 - NorQue - Sat Aug 12, 2006 5:09 pm
| Scorpei wrote: |
| jester wrote: | | well the difference between this and the next dslink is that dslink needs a flashed ds and it needs the roms to be patched using its pc software whereas this device doesnt need any software it will be well worth the wait and technically it should have 100% homebrew and nds compatibility!! |
100% homebrew?
What makes you think that? |
A famous GBA/NDS Pirate sites says that the manufacturer claims that. Well, maybe pigs will start to fly soon, too.
#97984 - Dan2552 - Sat Aug 12, 2006 6:03 pm
| NorQue wrote: |
| Scorpei wrote: | | jester wrote: | | well the difference between this and the next dslink is that dslink needs a flashed ds and it needs the roms to be patched using its pc software whereas this device doesnt need any software it will be well worth the wait and technically it should have 100% homebrew and nds compatibility!! |
100% homebrew?
What makes you think that? |
A famous GBA/NDS Pirate sites says that the manufacturer claims that. Well, maybe pigs will start to fly soon, too. |
http://www.flying-pig.co.uk/
#98016 - jester - Sat Aug 12, 2006 7:48 pm
its been priced at $125 thats by Divineo i believe that it will be released as ?65 in GBP pounds
#98041 - Extreme Coder - Sat Aug 12, 2006 9:58 pm
I think $125 is a tad expensive, but if it works as said, then I see no reason why not to purchase this beauty!
#98069 - jester - Sun Aug 13, 2006 1:16 am
also absolutely no GBA homebrew or Roms support it am afraid
#98312 - josath - Mon Aug 14, 2006 4:47 pm
For $125, I can get a supercard CF + MML + 2GByte CF card. This will be compatbile with pretty much 100% of DS homebrew, and most GBA homebrew, as well as holding 4 times as much storage. As opposed to this device, which probably wont work with most homebrew out-of-the-box (until people like chishm can add support to fatlib for it)
#98373 - tepples - Mon Aug 14, 2006 11:15 pm
| josath wrote: |
| For $125, I can get a supercard CF + MML + 2GByte CF card. This will be compatbile with pretty much 100% of DS homebrew |
But will it be compatible with your pants pocket when you close your DS Lite and start jogging?
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#98411 - josath - Tue Aug 15, 2006 2:38 am
| tepples wrote: |
| josath wrote: | | For $125, I can get a supercard CF + MML + 2GByte CF card. This will be compatbile with pretty much 100% of DS homebrew |
But will it be compatible with your pants pocket when you close your DS Lite and start jogging? |
I'm a programmer...I don't jog. I guess I forgot to take into account the people who aren't couch potatoes like myself :P
#98439 - Scorpei - Tue Aug 15, 2006 9:22 am
| tepples wrote: |
| josath wrote: | | For $125, I can get a supercard CF + MML + 2GByte CF card. This will be compatbile with pretty much 100% of DS homebrew |
But will it be compatible with your pants pocket when you close your DS Lite and start jogging? |
I've got a SC-SD and I use a pocket for the normal DS (though I have a DSlite) and it fits fine.
Though I wouldn't want to do that with a SC-CF.
#98486 - MechaBouncer - Tue Aug 15, 2006 4:04 pm
So it has a built-in NoPass, works with flashcarts and CF/SD adapters, and has built-in storage and USB port? That's hot. Seems like the perfect thing for DS dev, should it use a file system that's easily recognized and supported. Plus, for anything that doesn't work, if it functions as a NoPass, there shouldn't be a problem if you have an alternative already (I'm assuming most of us already do).
The storage would definately be handy for loading up music. That way, you can play that directly from the card without anything sticking out of your DS Lite while it sits in your pocket. A lot of MP3 players only have 512MB still. Granted, 1GB or 2GB would be better. Even better still would be something that combined the design of this (USB port included), but nixed (or better yet reduced) the onboard flash memory in favor of a MicroSD slot for expansion. That way, you could buy whatever size you want, much like how it is the CF/SD/MiniSD/MicroSD adapters now.
The built-in USB port has me really curious if homebrew could make use of it. That could really open up a lot of possibilities. WiFi communication is great and all, but some things are just easier (and less expensive) wired. Although I doubt it could be hacked to work as a GBA link cable port without some serious modifications to the DS (seems like it'd be more likely that the DS Lite's power connecter be hacked first, if it's even possible at all). Hey, I can dream, can't I?
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#98640 - jester - Wed Aug 16, 2006 6:54 pm
I have thought and thought but i think its best if we all wait for a review of the product some copies of the DS Xtreme have been sent out to sites so we should expect a review by at least early september
#98702 - HyperHacker - Thu Aug 17, 2006 12:28 am
My DS Phat, GBAMP and 4GB CF card (:D) fits in my pocket just fine. You people must have some small pockets. (And if you're jogging, zippered pockets ftw.)
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#98710 - tepples - Thu Aug 17, 2006 12:49 am
| HyperHacker wrote: |
| My DS Phat, GBAMP and 4GB CF card (:D) fits in my pocket just fine. |
I have original DS + GBAMP, and it works in my pocket while walking, but when I start jogging, the GBAMP gets tilted within the DS, some of the GBA slot pins lose contact, and MoonShell freezes.
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#98730 - HyperHacker - Thu Aug 17, 2006 3:34 am
Ah, I forgot about that problem... couldn't you wedge something in there though?
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#98734 - quadomatic - Thu Aug 17, 2006 4:45 am
I've NEVER had problems using a GBAMP and DS Phat running moonshell in my pocket. It barely fits, and in the pants I wear with a suit, it slides out sometimes (cuz its silky smooth :)) but it's fine usually. Sometimes the song pauses or skips because of the shoulder buttons, but when they changed it so u have to press both buttons while it's sleeping, that didn't happen almost ever.
It's a bit uncomfortable though. I REALLY wish I had a DS Lite. Maybe I can trade my fat DS in the fall for a DS Lite if I trade some games along with it (like when EB Games as a trade in deal for PS2 games where they give a bonus). I'll have to get rid of FlashMe though, or I could leave it as a treat for the next user.
#99059 - jester - Sat Aug 19, 2006 10:16 am
it has USB debugger support for homebrew developers just a little bit of info there!
#99247 - josath - Sun Aug 20, 2006 8:24 am
| jester wrote: |
| it has USB debugger support for homebrew developers just a little bit of info there! |
Where do you get this info from?
#99257 - loading - Sun Aug 20, 2006 10:17 am
it's in q&a topic with one guy from the team at yarrtemp
he did not want to go into deteils there tho.
#99327 - rmco2003 - Sun Aug 20, 2006 7:05 pm
Finally a real SLOT-1 solution, I might actually buy this cart, unlike my M3 and Neocrap. I hope they give you the option of having the menu flashed, or at least having it on a seperate chip, it wouldn't seem so attractive if a couple of megs of space were snipped off for the loader. I wonder if they have any SRAM in there, and if so what size that would be?
#99349 - tepples - Sun Aug 20, 2006 10:37 pm
| rmco2003 wrote: |
| I hope they give you the option of having the menu flashed, or at least having it on a seperate chip, it wouldn't seem so attractive if a couple of megs of space were snipped off for the loader. |
How is 510 MB useful space so much worse than 512 MB? GBA and Nintendo DS homebrew programs don't come in even 2^x megabyte chunks. Are you talking about "that other use"?
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#99351 - ackix - Sun Aug 20, 2006 10:49 pm
Considering you could even trim "the other stuff" for "the other use" ;) :D.
#99373 - HyperHacker - Mon Aug 21, 2006 4:28 am
I'd be kinda upset if I were forced to waste 2MB on a program I don't want.
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#99387 - rmco2003 - Mon Aug 21, 2006 6:32 am
Yea, pretty much what Hyperhacker said.
#99723 - jester - Wed Aug 23, 2006 4:27 pm
i cant wait till we get more info on this device
#103052 - MiL0 - Mon Sep 18, 2006 10:45 pm
isn't this thing out now?
anyone used it? what's the homebrew support like?
#103055 - Sunray - Mon Sep 18, 2006 11:08 pm
http://news.ds-x.com/ -- They released a video today.
#103147 - MechaBouncer - Tue Sep 19, 2006 3:55 pm
I'm looking more and more forward to this coming to market. Now only if they'd release larger capacities as well.
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#103185 - MrD - Tue Sep 19, 2006 9:03 pm
| josath wrote: |
| jester wrote: | | it has USB debugger support for homebrew developers just a little bit of info there! |
Where do you get this info from? |
USB debugger support using what?
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#103190 - Sunray - Tue Sep 19, 2006 9:54 pm
You can ask questions on their support forum: http://forums.ds-xtreme.com/
#107125 - MechaBouncer - Thu Oct 26, 2006 10:21 pm
Review on dcemu.co.uk:
http://www.dcemu.co.uk/DS-Xtreme-%20flashcart-review.php
Sounds pretty good so far.
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#107158 - OOPMan - Fri Oct 27, 2006 8:16 am
They've delayed the release of their mysterious USB debugger, though, claiming reason by purpose of re-design...
Will we ever see the mythical beast in question? Who knows...
EDIT: The first half of that DCEmu review is marketing spiel. The rest of the review is pretty light-weight.
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#107185 - hisshouburaiken - Fri Oct 27, 2006 2:15 pm
A more in-depth review's up at gbatemp
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#107191 - MechaBouncer - Fri Oct 27, 2006 3:35 pm
That's the kind of review I wanted to see. I passed along the first as it was the first I had come across and sounded promising, despite lacking in a lot of details. That second review pretty much answered most of my questions I still had.
It sounds like the DS-Xtreme is pretty good. Only 512MB is a little low, but should be decent for just homebrew. I'd like to see them release one with 1GB or more, though.
One thing that review mentions that really has me curious now is the level of customization of the OS and how it can be "rewritten". That sounds like an interesting project in itself. I wonder if we'll start seeing full replacement firmwares and OS's for it?
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#107212 - josath - Fri Oct 27, 2006 6:05 pm
no links to warez sites please
#107475 - hisshouburaiken - Sun Oct 29, 2006 11:48 pm
Sorry, just found the review on google and didn't know it was a warez site.