#121562 - tehleet - Tue Mar 13, 2007 4:34 am
I am just wondering, for the price and all, is it a good buy. I REALLY don't want to spend that much money on something that isn't worth it. Anyways, are there any others that would be as easy, and good? Any help is appreciated...thanks.
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#121569 - wintermute - Tue Mar 13, 2007 5:18 am
Personally I thought it was awful. Any of the media card based devices are cheaper and much easier to work with.
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#121584 - thehive - Tue Mar 13, 2007 8:43 am
Yeah, I have to agree I think. The front end takes ages to boot which is a major pain when you're testing something repeatedly. The design of the external shell is pretty poor too, very flimsy and it does actually buckle under very minute pressure. I wouldn't spend hard earned money on it.
#121585 - Diddl - Tue Mar 13, 2007 9:15 am
DS-X is a good card but too expensive. with ds linker I have the same (usb as a slot 2) but 16G not 4G and much cheaper.
#121588 - Sunray - Tue Mar 13, 2007 9:23 am
DS-X is 16 Gb now, for the same price. I like it, mostly because it has fast USB and automatic fatlib patching.
#121641 - tehleet - Tue Mar 13, 2007 5:46 pm
DS Link... how much is that? Where can I get it from. Oh, and I'm new to all of this, so I would like to get the easiest one to start off with, but one that is good, and worthy.
#121672 - tehleet - Tue Mar 13, 2007 9:40 pm
In other words, which is the best one to start out with. I just want one that allows me to download some games, and maybe get linux. What shall I do?
#121682 - dantheman - Tue Mar 13, 2007 11:20 pm
You can download homebrew games from various places, like DCEmu and NDSHB. Note however that older homebrew games have a higher chance of working well on slot-2 cards.
Also note that slot-2 cards contain additional RAM that DSLinux can use - without the RAM, it's rather limited. However, there has recently been a release that uses DLDI, so it might be possible to at least boot it on a slot-1 card.
#121770 - MrD - Wed Mar 14, 2007 7:57 pm
| wintermute wrote: |
| Personally I thought it was awful. Any of the media card based devices are cheaper and much easier to work with. |
I was given one from the DS-X folks to help for porting. I never got it to work.
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#121789 - sirpoonga - Wed Mar 14, 2007 9:40 pm
There's pros and cons. On monroeworld.com I posted a comparison to the r4. I have a dsx and r4. I had one of the first batch dsx's that had the qkin problem. I received my replacement not too long ago. I will selling it since I don't need two devices.
For most people, something like the r4 will be a better choice than the dsx.
I like the dsx for development. No fiddling with a microsd card. My lock mech for the sd slot on the r4 broke, I need to tape the card in. So the dsx may boot slower it is still faster for development since I just need to plug in a usb cord. For the r4 I need to take the r4 out of the ds, take the transflash out. Put the flash in the usb adaptor.
I haven't found the fixed memory that bad. I only have one microsd card for the r4 so there is essentially no difference. I find myself putting stuff on and off of it as much as I was on the dsx.
However, I think none of that warrants buying it over another slot 1 device. The only reason I could see getting the dsx now is if you have small kids that play with your ds. Microsd is small and easy to loose.
I am tempted to get the ez-flash V and 3in1 slot 2 combo. That looks like the ultimate solution.
#121854 - Diddl - Thu Mar 15, 2007 8:40 am
| sirpoonga wrote: |
| There's pros and cons. |
There are pros and cons between R4 and a DS-X, but there are only pros for a ds-linker (Neo MK5).
| sirpoonga wrote: |
| I am tempted to get the ez-flash V and 3in1 slot 2 combo. That looks like the ultimate solution. |
it looks like a ultimate solution ...
the best thing is: moonshell is the primary loader. you can start .nds, homebrew, movies, pic viewer ... all without need to start a moonshell. and it is all open source!
EZ flash 5 + trimode expansion is a very good solution but it have same problem as all TF solutions: slow downs
#121916 - Reaper101 - Thu Mar 15, 2007 5:54 pm
| tehleet wrote: |
| In other words, which is the best one to start out with. I just want one that allows me to download some games, and maybe get linux. What shall I do? |
well i have max media dock and that is probably the cheapest one you can get you load almost every type of homebrew app and game except for dslinux. But maybe in the near future somebody will release a dslinux that works on it. Other than tht if you put moonshell on it then its really cool and has good sound quality+compact flash cards are alot cheaper than micro sd and the other ones except for sd those are the cheapest, so if your not going to get a MMD than get a different one tht requires sd to save money
#121923 - sonny_jim - Thu Mar 15, 2007 7:08 pm
Almost every type of homebrew? The fact that it is sold 'over the counter' and easier to get hold of is it's only plus point. It seems to me that pretty much all the DS forums are littered with requests from MMD users asking for help to get homebrew to run.
I wouldn't recommend MMD to anyone, personally.
#121924 - tepples - Thu Mar 15, 2007 7:19 pm
| sonny_jim wrote: |
| I wouldn't recommend MMD to anyone, personally. |
Then what would you recommend for somebody who does not have a checking account?
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#121926 - sajiimori - Thu Mar 15, 2007 7:53 pm
To open one? :P
#121928 - Reaper101 - Thu Mar 15, 2007 8:14 pm
| sonny_jim wrote: |
Almost every type of homebrew? The fact that it is sold 'over the counter' and easier to get hold of is it's only plus point. It seems to me that pretty much all the DS forums are littered with requests from MMD users asking for help to get homebrew to run.
I wouldn't recommend MMD to anyone, personally. |
well just patch your homebrew. I have tons of homebrew...well not tons but alot and they all work except dslinux.
#121942 - sirpoonga - Thu Mar 15, 2007 9:39 pm
| Diddl wrote: |
There are pros and cons between R4 and a DS-X, but there are only pros for a ds-linker (Neo MK5).
|
Con for mk5, need a loader in the gba slot? That's what I gather from their website. If not does it hook up via usb like the dsx?
| Quote: |
it looks like a ultimate solution ...
|
Actually, found out some info. It will not rumble with original cart. Bah, i am looking for a rumble card with ram expansion. Wonder if it is possible. Does the official nds rumble pak use a pin that ram would need? Is that why there is no such product?
I haven't had any slow downs with my r4.
#121944 - dantheman - Thu Mar 15, 2007 9:51 pm
From what I can tell, the MK5 and its clones use the slot-2 GBA card for flashing only. You connect the slot-2 card to the PC via USB and use that to flash the internal memory of the slot-1 card.
#121955 - Diddl - Thu Mar 15, 2007 11:03 pm
| dantheman wrote: |
| From what I can tell, the MK5 and its clones use the slot-2 GBA card for flashing only. You connect the slot-2 card to the PC via USB and use that to flash the internal memory of the slot-1 card. |
this is correct!
| sirpoonga wrote: |
| I haven't had any slow downs with my r4. |
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#121980 - tehleet - Fri Mar 16, 2007 3:23 am
So as of right now, I will be buying a DS Linker. Will this work for what I am looking for?
#121988 - wintermute - Fri Mar 16, 2007 4:47 am
| tehleet wrote: |
| So as of right now, I will be buying a DS Linker. Will this work for what I am looking for? |
Currently I don't see a dldi driver for that card so right now it may not be compatible with libfat.
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#121995 - Diddl - Fri Mar 16, 2007 8:32 am
| wintermute wrote: |
| tehleet wrote: | | So as of right now, I will be buying a DS Linker. Will this work for what I am looking for? |
Currently I don't see a dldi driver for that card so right now it may not be compatible with libfat. |
there already exists a DLDI driver on Chishm DLDI homepage and on every manufacturer homepage. current DLDI has only read support but DLDI with write support is announced by NEO: DLDI with write support will come next week: Neo
#121999 - wintermute - Fri Mar 16, 2007 9:08 am
| Diddl wrote: |
there already exists a DLDI driver on Chishm DLDI homepage and on every manufacturer homepage. current DLDI has only read support but DLDI with write support is announced by NEO: DLDI with write support will come next week: |
Not sure why you wrote this, NEO does not make the DS Linker and quoting my comment with this reply is extremely misleading.
Currently available DLDI files may be found at
http://chishm.drunkencoders.com/DLDI/
Note:DSLink and DS Linker are not the same card
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#122002 - Diddl - Fri Mar 16, 2007 9:44 am
correct, - ds-link and ds-linker are different cartriges.
but ds-linker is same like: MK5, N-Card, Ufpex, Firecard, Express Card
it is all exact the same hardware. you can change firmware on each other.
#122027 - dantheman - Fri Mar 16, 2007 3:54 pm
Right, they're all the same hardware, just with different stickers, much like the Superkey and Passcard 3.
#122028 - Lick - Fri Mar 16, 2007 4:07 pm
| Diddl wrote: |
correct, - ds-link and ds-linker are different cartriges.
but ds-linker is same like: MK5, N-Card, Ufpex, Firecard, Express Card
it is all exact the same hardware. you can change firmware on each other. |
Diddle: does the MK5 DLDI driver work for ds-linker?
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#122036 - tehleet - Fri Mar 16, 2007 5:31 pm
Not really sure what all these technical terms mean, so... is the DS Linker good or bad for playing homebrew games, and NES games?
#122044 - tepples - Fri Mar 16, 2007 7:13 pm
| dantheman wrote: |
| Right, they're all the same hardware, just with different stickers, much like the Superkey and Passcard 3. |
Like Chevy vs. Pontiac vs. Saturn vs. Daewoo, right? So would R4DS be to M3 DS Simply as a Ford Expedition is to a Lincoln Navigator?
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#122047 - Diddl - Fri Mar 16, 2007 7:18 pm
| Lick wrote: |
| does the MK5 DLDI driver work for ds-linker? |
yes!
| tehleet wrote: |
| Not really sure what all these technical terms mean, so... is the DS Linker good or bad for playing homebrew games, and NES games? |
I will explain. DLDI is used for accessing files on the card. DS Linker is very compatible to rom backups and also to homebrew. concerning homebrew there are different types of homebrew:
- homebrew which doesnt read or write ## working fine
- homebrew which read some data from files (levels, textures ...) ## working fine
- homebrew which does also write data into files (for high scores) ## working but without write access
in the moment no write access to files is possible. but in the near future this will work also without problems.
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#122050 - tehleet - Fri Mar 16, 2007 7:25 pm
| Diddl wrote: |
| Lick wrote: | | does the MK5 DLDI driver work for ds-linker? |
yes!
| tehleet wrote: | | Not really sure what all these technical terms mean, so... is the DS Linker good or bad for playing homebrew games, and NES games? |
I will explain. DLDI is used for accessing files on the card. DS Linker is very compatible to rom backups and also to homebrew. concerning homebrew there are different types of homebrew:
- homebrew which doesnt read or write ## working fine
- homebrew which read some data from files (levels, textures ...) ## working fine
- homebrew which does also write data into files (for high scores) ## working but without write access
in the moment no write access to files is possible. but in the near future this will work also without problems. |
So "yes" to DS Linker? I'm sorry, I am absouletly CLUELESS to all of this.
Also, the DS Linker only works on a "Flashed" NDS. How would I "Flash" my DS?
#122093 - josath - Fri Mar 16, 2007 11:33 pm
I would say NO to anything that does not have write support in the DLDI. It means you cannot use any homebrew which wants to save! (high scores, save your game, save your drawings, etc)
#122124 - tehleet - Sat Mar 17, 2007 3:49 am
| josath wrote: |
| I would say NO to anything that does not have write support in the DLDI. It means you cannot use any homebrew which wants to save! (high scores, save your game, save your drawings, etc) |
Is that what a DS Linker does?
#122145 - Sektor - Sat Mar 17, 2007 9:40 am
DS Linker is read only. It uses the same DLDI as NEO Flash MK5 (NAND Flash) and that doesn't have write support.
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#122173 - Diddl - Sat Mar 17, 2007 4:02 pm
| Sektor wrote: |
| DS Linker is read only. It uses the same DLDI as NEO Flash MK5 (NAND Flash) and that doesn't have write support. |
yes!
but Neo has promised write support for MK5/DS-linker this week ...
#122672 - tehleet - Wed Mar 21, 2007 4:55 am
| Sektor wrote: |
| DS Linker is read only. It uses the same DLDI as NEO Flash MK5 (NAND Flash) and that doesn't have write support. |
"Read only" meaning what?
#122689 - Sektor - Wed Mar 21, 2007 6:44 am
You can read files from it but can't write (so a text editor could view a text file but couldn't save).
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#122857 - tehleet - Thu Mar 22, 2007 11:45 pm
Im getting the DS Linker.