#122220 - beamer30 - Sat Mar 17, 2007 10:31 pm
which things should i buy out of these items?
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if i wanna be able to play and make games and run applications on my ds lite?
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#122221 - josath - Sat Mar 17, 2007 10:48 pm
can you list the names of the products you are trying to decide between? i am not going to click on each link just to find out what it is (i'm too lazy)
#122225 - beamer30 - Sat Mar 17, 2007 11:15 pm
ok here they are in order click links to see description then i guess
ninja pass x9
ez for lite deluxe adaptor
passcard3
r4 (english)
ezpass 3
supercard lite tf
supercard
ez flash 5 bundle pack
superkey
expresscard
erwin micro sd adaptor
#122238 - tepples - Sun Mar 18, 2007 12:46 am
Do you want only DS homebrew, or do you also want Game Boy Advance homebrew?
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#122248 - beamer30 - Sun Mar 18, 2007 2:42 am
umm whats the diff. in performance use and PRICE also whats the difference in easy to use wise?
#122251 - tepples - Sun Mar 18, 2007 3:11 am
SuperCard Lite + SuperKey
microSD adapter for SLOT-2 with SLOT-1 booting tool
$70; supports GBA and DS homebrew
R4DS
microSD adapter for SLOT-1
$40; supports DS homebrew only
Either way you'll need to add a 1 gigabyte microSD card and SD writer for about $35 if you shop around.
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#122254 - beamer30 - Sun Mar 18, 2007 4:29 am
ok thanks, so now if it supports gba games does that mean i can make those type of games too? and for slot 1 and two things that have a usb for the computer does that mean thats how i get stuff on to my comp and i don't have to buy a new rought plug in for my pc?
#122258 - dantheman - Sun Mar 18, 2007 5:01 am
How exactly are you planning to make your own games? What programming languages do you know?
In any case, some slot-1 carts like the R4 come with a card reader, but most do not, in which case you'll need to buy your own for about $5 or so at a local computer store. Cards that come with their own built-in memory, like the DSLinker or N-card or any of that family of clones, are written to using the supplied USB cable through the included slot-2 cart. However, most people recommend using removeable storage for normal usage, as it's much cheaper to upgrade that way.
#122264 - beamer30 - Sun Mar 18, 2007 6:12 am
i know a little about both c and c++
and would i be good if if i go with ninja pass x9
passcard3 and the microsd adaptor?
#122265 - felix123 - Sun Mar 18, 2007 6:42 am
I would recommend the R4 over the X9 as it is much more widely used.
C/C++ are the right languages for DS.
If you buy a slot 1 card (R4,X9,etc) you don't need a NoPass (Passcard3 etc).
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#122268 - beamer30 - Sun Mar 18, 2007 7:05 am
ok i got a line up i think im going to buy what if i go with
expresscard slot one and slot 2, adapter/reader/writer
with the r4
or should i go with the r4
and the ez flash slot 2 adapter?
#122276 - felix123 - Sun Mar 18, 2007 8:59 am
You still haven't told us if you want to use GBA homebrew or not.
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#122303 - tepples - Sun Mar 18, 2007 3:48 pm
| beamer30 wrote: |
| ok thanks, so now if it supports gba games does that mean i can make those type of games too? |
Yes.
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| and for slot 1 and two things that have a usb for the computer does that mean thats how i get stuff on to my comp and i don't have to buy a new rought plug in for my pc? |
If you buy a card that has its own USB connector, then you read and write the card through the USB interface, and you don't have to buy a separate SD writer. But it might still be worth it for a few reasons:
- As I understand it, cards that have internal NAND flash memory may use a lower-level protocol such as SmartMedia to access the flash, which requires the software on the GBA or DS to handle error-correcting codes and makes homebrew marginally more difficult. G6 especially suffers from this. Cards with an SD slot of some size are more likely to use simpler, better-understood methods for reading and writing the flash.
- It can be difficult to disable pirate-oriented features on some cards whose USB interface is the only way of loading programs onto the card.
- If you have a Wii console and want to put pictures on your Photo Channel, you'll need an SD writer because Wii takes SD cards.
- Expanding your SLOT-1 or SLOT-2 card's memory by buying more SD cards can be cheaper than buying more SLOT-1 or SLOT-2 cards.
| felix123 wrote: |
| You still haven't told us if you want to use GBA homebrew or not. |
I took "if it supports gba games does that mean i can make those type of games too?" as a yes.
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#122315 - beamer30 - Sun Mar 18, 2007 6:08 pm
ok yes i wan't to be able to run homebrew and gba.
sorry to have to ask so many questions im almost done guys.
alright i'm kind of understanding a little bit better now and i jut want to know if someone here who has enough time could just list each part i need and what each part does if i wan't both homebreew and gba that way i better understand what im buying thanks in advance guys.
#122327 - dantheman - Sun Mar 18, 2007 6:38 pm
If you want GBA compatibility, you must buy a slot-2 card. The only exception is the slot-1 EZ-Flash V that has an additional slot-2 extension you can use for GBA compatibility. However, for your purposes, it would probably be best to use either a Supercard (not Rumble) or M3 (Perfect, not Pro) with a slot-1 NoPass device.
Depending on whether you have a DS Phat or DS Lite, you probably want either the MiniSD version or MicroSD version in order to fit flush within your DS.
The NoPass device you use can vary. The Passcard 3 and Superkey are the exact same aside from the sticker, while the Max Media Launcher will also boot any slot-2 device you need.
#122331 - beamer30 - Sun Mar 18, 2007 6:46 pm
i have a ds lite but that still does't answer my big question what does each part do but thanks for telling me whats i need to get and if i buy the r4 or x9 then all i need is the slot 2 adapter which i think i'll buy the supercard micro since im a ds lite but i still need my big question answered
#122337 - tepples - Sun Mar 18, 2007 7:28 pm
| beamer30 wrote: |
| i have a ds lite but that still does't answer my big question what does each part do but thanks for telling me whats i need to get and if i buy the r4 or x9 then all i need is the slot 2 adapter which i think i'll buy the supercard micro since im a ds lite but i still need my big question answered |
It was very difficult to understand what you wrote. Not using punctuation is like mumbling in a monotone; I can't tell where one thought ends and the next one starts.
If you want compatibility with both GBA and DS homebrew, what you want to order right now are SuperCard and SuperKey. The rest you can pick up cheaply at an office supply store. Or you can use an Action Replay DS instead of a SuperKey if you wish.
SuperCard: firmware, SD card interface for data storage, and 32 MB of RAM to hold a running GBA program
NoPass: tells the DS to start running the SuperCard firmware in DS mode
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#122340 - Lick - Sun Mar 18, 2007 7:31 pm
I think EZ5+EZexpansion is the latest killercombo.
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#122368 - beamer30 - Sun Mar 18, 2007 11:12 pm
| beamer30 wrote: |
| i have a ds lite, but that still does't answer my big question, "what does each part i need do", but thanks for telling me whats i need to get, and if i buy the r4 or x9 then all i need is the slot 2 adapter right? If so i think i'll buy the supercard micro since i have a ds lite but i still need my big question answered. |
sorry i was in a rush. the fixed versions in the qoute.
an i have a question if i get the r4 and supercard lite adapter(micro version) then the r4 is my reader aand writer so i don't have to buy a passcard or passkey right? the only other thing i would need would be the 1 gb of storage copacity right, or do i need something else too?
#122422 - felix123 - Mon Mar 19, 2007 5:53 am
| beamer30 wrote: |
| if i get the r4 and supercard lite adapter(micro version) then the r4 is my reader and writer so i don't have to buy a passcard or passkey right? the only other thing i would need would be the 1 gb of storage copacity right, or do i need something else too? |
Yes. The R4 can act as a NoPass so you don't need another one. Note both the SCL and the R4 need a mSD card.
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