#159562 - doudou - Wed Jul 02, 2008 6:08 pm
Is there some hardware to burn DS cartridges as they are (write once) for commercial DS games?
If so, how much does it cost for ~100 cartridges?
#159586 - Lynx - Wed Jul 02, 2008 8:10 pm
If I remember correct, it was something like $1,000 for the flasher and then something like $20 or $25 (or was it $15?) each for the cards.. and I thought they held 32MB (or was it bit?).
I doubt this helps much.. but for 100 cards you can expect to spend around $2,500 - $3,500, and that is just the cards without any labels or packaging.
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#159648 - nl - Thu Jul 03, 2008 2:57 pm
any hint where to get these?
#159656 - doudou - Thu Jul 03, 2008 6:49 pm
I wouldn't buy one, but if someone already has it, I could pay for burning few copies of my rom.
#159811 - Lynx - Mon Jul 07, 2008 2:41 am
Well, I received this information from a third party that is no longer in the scene, but I would guess any of the pirate companies (the ones that promote the hell out of pirating and doing illegal business) would have such hardware available to purchase. You just have to prove you have the money to get their attention.
I'm sure they will come looking for you if you actually have $3,500 to put toward this. So pop onto a few of the IRC channels looking for information and see what you find.
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#159814 - sgeos - Mon Jul 07, 2008 3:25 am
| Lynx wrote: |
| I'm sure they will come looking for you if you actually have $3,500 to put toward this. So pop onto a few of the IRC channels looking for information and see what you find. |
Sounds like a risky way to drop $3500 to me. Why not just follow proper channels and go publisher shopping? =P
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#159833 - silent_code - Mon Jul 07, 2008 10:41 am
... plus supporting pirating supporters (that's what it is - you give them money, whatever that is for, you know how it's going to be used later... to promote pirated software or even sell it) is definitely not cool. :^(
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#159854 - Lynx - Mon Jul 07, 2008 4:37 pm
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| Sounds like a risky way to drop $3500 to me. Why not just follow proper channels and go publisher shopping? =P |
Because you'll spend a lot more than $3,500 and we all know how "easy" it is to get a game published.. Not to mention one that was written using DevkitPro instead of the official SDK.
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| ... plus supporting pirating supporters |
If your going to make that point, everyone already is. Unless you only own a Datel Games N Music card, you have already given money to the "pirating supporters". There is no way around that one.
But, speaking of that.. if someone was able to hack the Datel Games N Music card firmware to remove the Datel name on startup, you could repackage them for sale with your game on it.
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#159875 - silent_code - Mon Jul 07, 2008 9:40 pm
@ Lynx: You are right. :^) Although it wasn't exactly 3500$, but I guess that's no better. ;^)
Has anyone heard of the Vision DS? It seems to be Nintendo's own, official (multimedia only?) card?
That wouldn't be a bad thing (in terms of supporting piracy through inofficial deviced), if it could be "massaged" to make homebrew run (I don't care about commercial ROMs.)
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#159878 - tepples - Mon Jul 07, 2008 9:50 pm
| silent_code wrote: |
Has anyone heard of the Vision DS? It seems to be Nintendo's own, official (multimedia only?) card?
That wouldn't be a bad thing (in terms of supporting piracy through inofficial deviced), if it could be "massaged" to make homebrew run |
With whose digital signature?
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#159883 - silent_code - Mon Jul 07, 2008 10:16 pm
I am not a masseur, so I don't know. ;^)
(And I am not sure what you were asking, in the first place... :^D )
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#159926 - Lynx - Tue Jul 08, 2008 1:56 pm
He's saying it needs to be signed, just like NiFi Download Play ROMs. Without having a public/private key, it won't run homebrew.
But, that's not to say it couldn't have the signature check removed like FlashMe does.
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#159982 - tepples - Wed Jul 09, 2008 1:17 am
| Lynx wrote: |
| But, that's not to say it couldn't have the signature check removed like FlashMe does. |
Not if the part that launches a program is in a non-flashable part of the adapter. Unlike the DS firmware, DS Game Cards are either mask ROM or OTP.
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#160023 - Lynx - Wed Jul 09, 2008 2:06 pm
But, if they have any intentions of releasing updates for it, wouldn't it be more likely than not flashable? Just for conversations sake, as there are plenty of devices already available for us to run homebrew on, so it doesn't really matter anyway.
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#160028 - elwing - Wed Jul 09, 2008 3:26 pm
| Lynx wrote: |
| But, if they have any intentions of releasing updates for it, wouldn't it be more likely than not flashable? Just for conversations sake, as there are plenty of devices already available for us to run homebrew on, so it doesn't really matter anyway. |
yes, the wifi system to load signed code was hacked before there was almost no way to run homebrew on the wii, on the DS where you already have plenty solution to run homebrew there will prolly never be enough interest from the comunity to hack the dsvision signature...
#160037 - Sweater Fish Deluxe - Wed Jul 09, 2008 4:52 pm
| Lynx wrote: |
| But, speaking of that.. if someone was able to hack the Datel Games N Music card firmware to remove the Datel name on startup, you could repackage them for sale with your game on it. |
It's too bad the Games'n'Music uses microSD, though, so it'll never look like an "authentic" DS game.
There used to be a 512MB version of the N-Card around a few places and it was only $20 at the time. I haven't seen those for sale anywhere in a long time, but if you could somehow track down old stock somewhere in some warehouse in Hong Kong and buy a few hundred of them for $12-15, those could make for a very nice finished product.
I looked into this a while back, but was never even able to get in touch with the N-Card's manufacturer. Couldn't even get firm information on *WHO* the original manufacturer was, in fact., which I suppose isn't too surprising.
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