#57827 - rumblpak - Tue Oct 18, 2005 8:07 pm
1) is it possible with the current flashme version to flash a iQue DS via wifime?
2) if possible, should i use the same wifi flashme tutorial of the old version
3) what can i use to do a firmware dump so i have something to go back to in case of errors?
4) if the current flashme version is incompatible, who do i need to give a firmware dump to get this iQue DS working with flashme?
thanks for help in advance
#57853 - tepples - Tue Oct 18, 2005 9:59 pm
Have you already got PassMe-iQue to work?
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#57869 - rumblpak - Tue Oct 18, 2005 11:57 pm
no, which is why im asking, as ive got wifime to work and i dont have a metroid prime demo.
#57871 - natrium42 - Wed Oct 19, 2005 12:30 am
| rumblpak wrote: |
1) is it possible with the current flashme version to flash a iQue DS via wifime?
2) if possible, should i use the same wifi flashme tutorial of the old version
3) what can i use to do a firmware dump so i have something to go back to in case of errors?
4) if the current flashme version is incompatible, who do i need to give a firmware dump to get this iQue DS working with flashme?
thanks for help in advance |
(1) No, FlashMe has a check that recognizes known FW. Only when it knows the FW, will it allow to flash. It doesn't know the new FW yet.
(2) WiFiMe doesn't work with iQue-type FW yet.
(3) UnFlashMe has the original FWs embedded (they are the older versions). You can use my program to dump your FW after having booted with an iQue PassMe: http://www.natrium42.com/blog/?p=20
(4) Heh.
I am not sure if FlashMe is legal or not since it has parts of orignial FW. UnFlashMe has the entire copies of FW embedded. Since the author (Olimar/Loopy) doesn't have a DS with new FW, it's not supported since he doesn't have a dump for use in UnFlashMe.
Joat on the other hand is working on a complete FW replacement which is going to be more legal. Might take him a while without right tools like IDA Pro Disassembler. So please donate to him if you want to support the cause.
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#57874 - rumblpak - Wed Oct 19, 2005 12:54 am
by the way, is there any 100% sure way to know that you have a iQue DS? other than the fact that most every other Blue DS out there is i have assumed mine is, but is there any way to check?
also, i was thinking about getting an iQue Passme, but then i read that it will only wotk with the metriod prime demo, which i dont own, in fact, since i only recently bought a DS, all i own is Lunar. what games does the iQue Passme actually work with?
where is joat posting progress on the new firmware replacement? i would like to do what i can to help, although i cant donate (poor highschool student) i will do what i can in testing.
#57876 - natrium42 - Wed Oct 19, 2005 1:00 am
| rumblpak wrote: |
| by the way, is there any 100% sure way to know that you have a iQue DS? other than the fact that most every other Blue DS out there is i have assumed mine is, but is there any way to check? |
There is no way to tell. You could compare your serial number with the list here: http://www.dspassme.com/dstrackerlist.shtml
| rumblpak wrote: |
also, i was thinking about getting an iQue Passme, but then i read that it will only wotk with the metriod prime demo, which i dont own, in fact, since i only recently bought a DS, all i own is Lunar. what games does the iQue Passme actually work with? |
SM64DS (US) card is also supported by my PassMes on request. I am working on supporting more DS cards.
| rumblpak wrote: |
where is joat posting progress on the new firmware replacement? i would like to do what i can to help, although i cant donate (poor highschool student) i will do what i can in testing. |
http://www.bottledlight.com/ds/index.php/Misc/NewFirmware
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#57880 - olimar - Wed Oct 19, 2005 2:21 am
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#57882 - rumblpak - Wed Oct 19, 2005 2:27 am
so when purchasing a passme with the "new and improved firmware" do i look for a normal passme or a passme with the iQue updated code?
#57888 - tepples - Wed Oct 19, 2005 2:41 am
| olimar wrote: |
Don't confuse the iQue DS with a normal DS with "new and improved" firmware.
The only change in these new Red/Pink/Blue DSes (AFAIK) is the passme/wifime disabling code. |
Which I've been calling "red firmware" to avoid confusion.
| Quote: |
| The iQue DS is a Nintendo DS marketed for China. The Japanese language setting in the firmware is replaced with Chinese. Games made for iQue DS will not run on a regular DS. The firmware chip in it is twice as big. |
If the iQue firmware is really twice as big as J/U/E firmware, it might be because unlike in Japanese, you can't squeak by with rÅmaji, hiragana, katakana, and a few Han characters (called "kanji" in Japanese); you have to have thousands of Han characters to render Chinese. I'm guessing that it would be easier to store glyphs for the most common Han characters in the firmware than to put them all in each DS Game Card, and iQue games freeze on J/U/E Nintendo DS systems because they can't find the Han font.
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#57890 - olimar - Wed Oct 19, 2005 2:42 am
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#57892 - rumblpak - Wed Oct 19, 2005 2:49 am
just out of question, what wouldnt work with wifime in the new firmware? cause ive been using wifime to run demos onto my ds but id like to know what doesnt work so i can test that to find out if i have the new firmware.
and on that note, since ive been calling it the wrong thing, will flashme work with the "new and improved firmware"
#57893 - Endy - Wed Oct 19, 2005 2:55 am
Does this mean with a 'red firmware' DS like mine, you can use the current flashme/unflashme to effectively downgrade if you can boot it (eg, updated passme w/ metroid demo)? I assume it would need to be patched to bypass any checksum check...
The need for SRAM with passme is annoying.
I've been making the the same mistake, assuming the blue/red/pink DS was somehow more 'special' like the iQue more different than just a recompile of the normal firmware with range checking :)
| olimar wrote: |
The only change in these new Red/Pink/Blue DSes (AFAIK) is the passme/wifime disabling code.
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#57894 - olimar - Wed Oct 19, 2005 2:56 am
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#57895 - rumblpak - Wed Oct 19, 2005 3:06 am
oh and one more thing, will the "new and improved firmware" work with any game on the passme or just the metriod demo and SM64DS (U)?
#57896 - tepples - Wed Oct 19, 2005 3:11 am
| rumblpak wrote: |
| will the "new and improved firmware" work with any game on the passme or just the metriod demo and SM64DS (U)? |
Due to its design, which jumps into the .nds file on the cart, the new PassMe will have to be customized for each game. But it can likely be made to work with any one game if you send a copy of the game to be dumped and analyzed. Read above:
| natrium42 wrote: |
| I am working on supporting more DS cards. |
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#57898 - natrium42 - Wed Oct 19, 2005 3:18 am
| rumblpak wrote: |
| oh and one more thing, will the "new and improved firmware" work with any game on the passme or just the metriod demo and SM64DS (U)? |
For now it works just with those two.
PassMe that will support more than one DS card is being worked on.
Basically it will have a list of games with the respective entry points needed to jump to exploited SWIs. The entry point will be chosen dynamically based on Game Code in the header. Support for many games probably won't fit into the CPLD chip, but I will try to fit in support for the popular ones.
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#57900 - tepples - Wed Oct 19, 2005 3:51 am
| natrium42 wrote: |
| Basically it will have a list of games with the respective entry points needed to jump to exploited SWIs. The entry point will be chosen dynamically based on Game Code in the header. |
Unless Nintendo starts recompiling its games with several different sizes of dummy array in the startup code so that each title might have ten or more different ROM versions.
Or should I shut up so that Nintendo's Revenue/AntiPiracy Engineering department doesn't get any ideas?
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#57972 - Lynx - Wed Oct 19, 2005 6:44 pm
One thing that sucks about this method is that it isn't compabitible with PassMe+RS232..
#57981 - natrium42 - Wed Oct 19, 2005 7:36 pm
| Lynx wrote: |
| One thing that sucks about this method is that it isn't compabitible with PassMe+RS232.. |
Actually, it is :)
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#58001 - tepples - Wed Oct 19, 2005 9:42 pm
Has any progress been made on the DS card encryption itself?
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#58186 - Lynx - Fri Oct 21, 2005 3:41 pm
| natrium42 wrote: |
| Lynx wrote: | | One thing that sucks about this method is that it isn't compabitible with PassMe+RS232.. |
Actually, it is :) |
I thought the RS232 code disabled access to the DS cart?
#58199 - tepples - Fri Oct 21, 2005 4:16 pm
Or does the RS232 code work through the SPI port that the DS card's save chip and the Magic Key 2's SD card interface use?
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#58221 - natrium42 - Fri Oct 21, 2005 7:33 pm
| tepples wrote: |
| Or does the RS232 code work through the SPI port that the DS card's save chip and the Magic Key 2's SD card interface use? |
That's correct.
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