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DS Flash Equipment > Wifime drivers question

#78326 - Dan2552 - Thu Apr 06, 2006 9:42 pm

What cards work in linux?

It would be awesome if it worked on ndiswrapper

Also, do the official demos all work with firmware v4 (non-flashed)?

#78360 - juhees - Fri Apr 07, 2006 1:26 am

Dan2552 wrote:
What cards work in linux?

It would be awesome if it worked on ndiswrapper

Also, do the official demos all work with firmware v4 (non-flashed)?


Ralink chips, same as on Windows. But with a bit luck, you can get USB Ralink chips to work (including the Nintendo wifistick). But if you have to buy one, get a non-usb card, that will be easyer.
Ndiswrapper doesn't work and will never work (too hi-level).
The official demos work with every DS (every firmware, with and without flashme), because they are signed by Nintendo.

greetings
juhees

#78396 - Nushio - Fri Apr 07, 2006 3:39 am

Actually, according to a member from this board (I really cant recall his nickname, but he is "Ant" and a few numbers :P) the DSLite wont run the demos sent via wifime.

Its odd, but since the DSLite isnt really out yet, only for importers, there hasnt been much time to test and poke.

#78435 - iceman7 - Fri Apr 07, 2006 6:55 am

juhees wrote:

Ralink chips, same as on Windows. But with a bit luck, you can get USB Ralink chips to work (including the Nintendo wifistick). juhees


what do you mean with, with a bit luck?
i really like to send demo's with my Ninty wifistick, so if you know how i can do that, pls tell me juhees :D

#78439 - TJ - Fri Apr 07, 2006 7:45 am

Yeah, I am not sure where the luck comes in. Masscat rote the hacked driver that allows them to work.

http://masscat.afraid.org/ninds/rt2570.php

#78489 - juhees - Fri Apr 07, 2006 6:04 pm

iceman7 wrote:
what do you mean with, with a bit luck?
i really like to send demo's with my Ninty wifistick, so if you know how i can do that, pls tell me juhees :D


I heard it definitly can be done, but i haven't tried it myself (it's simple with a pcmcia card). I read somewhere, that it's a bit more work to get it running (and with the usb stick linux only).

A tutorial how to set it up is here: http://tobw.net/dswiki/index.php?title=Set_up_WMB_for_Linux
Feel free to add all differences when installing the drivers for a usb stick.

#78515 - masscat - Fri Apr 07, 2006 8:50 pm

The only cards that I know work with the linux versions of WMB are:

rt2500 based cards (PCI and PCMCIA)
rt2570 (sometimes called rt2500usb) based cards (USB including the Nintendo Wifi dongle).

Others may work but I have used both of the above.

You can get both the rt2570 hacked driver and a linux WMB host from:

http://masscat.afraid.org/ninds/hacking.php

#78613 - iceman7 - Sat Apr 08, 2006 2:08 pm

@masscat&juhees

srry, but it still isnt clear.....can i use my Nintendo WiFi dongle(USB) for WiFiMe?

if yes, pls tell me :)

that wiki page doesnt make any sense about how to use the Nintendo WiFi dongle(USB) for WiFiMe.

thnx in advance:)

#78683 - masscat - Sat Apr 08, 2006 9:55 pm

Yes you can, under linux, use the Nintendo Wifi Dongle to do wifime.
You can get a wifime capable WMB host application from my website. To do wifime you just add the -w option when running the app.

There always seem to be confusion with regard to WMB and wifime.

WMB - this is the process of downloading a demo/program to your DS over a wireless link.
WifiME - nobbling the WMB download so that it causes a DS to run software from a flashcart/gbamp in the GBA cart slot. This only works with DSs with firmware version 3 or less.

#78757 - iceman7 - Sun Apr 09, 2006 3:17 pm

hehe...srry about that switch WMB/WiFiMe, i didnt really paid attention :P

but can i do WMB with my the Nintendo Wifi Dongle under WinXP?
that would be great :D
(some time ago somebody said it's linux only, but hopefully somebody made it work under windows XP)

#78761 - masscat - Sun Apr 09, 2006 4:01 pm

The rt2570 driver is linux only and it is a lot of work to rewrite it for windows. But there maybe another way for you Windows users by using VMplayer.

See these links:
http://www.dslinux.org/index.php?showtopic=1425
http://forum.gbadev.org/viewtopic.php?t=9172

#78786 - iceman7 - Sun Apr 09, 2006 7:56 pm

I'll try it soon

thank you very much for your help, masscat. I really appreciate it.

EDIT: does VMplayer affects any official driver? is VMplayer just a program, or is it a utility?
And if I use it, can i still go online on Nintendo WFC with that same nintendo WiFi dongle?

i know....i ask a lot....but you guys are just pro in this kinda stuff ;)

#78791 - tepples - Sun Apr 09, 2006 8:40 pm

vmplayer is just a crippled version of vmware.
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#78792 - masscat - Sun Apr 09, 2006 8:55 pm

iceman7 wrote:
And if I use it, can i still go online on Nintendo WFC with that same nintendo WiFi dongle?

My Nintendo Wifi dongle is sat on a Windows machine running the SoftAP software. Whilst running VMplayer the dongle was taken over by linux so I could not access it as an AP but I could do WMB transfers, which is fair enough as both windows and linux cannot access the hardware at the same time. As soon as I quit VMplayer control of the dongle was handed back to windows and I could access the AP as normal.
So yes you can use the same dongle for WMB and go on Nintendo WFC but you will not be able to do it at the same time.

#78854 - iceman7 - Mon Apr 10, 2006 6:52 am

@ masscat hehe, of course you can't use the dongle for both things on the same time, i already knew that, but my question was, can i use the dongle (after using VMplayer) for the "normal stuff" again, and i read that the answer is yes.

but you use the SoftAP software for that. Is it possible to keep my "official Nintendo WiFi USB dongle software" running, after using VM player?

you have been very helpful, thanks for that

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#78874 - masscat - Mon Apr 10, 2006 9:27 am

The official Nintendo Wifi software is actually a version of SoftAP so it should work. Give it a go.

#78896 - tepples - Mon Apr 10, 2006 1:42 pm

So why doesn't the official software work on Windows 2000? I feel that Nintendo is unwise in requiring Windows XP, as the upgrade from Windows 2000 to Windows XP gives Microsoft revenue that it uses to finances the Xbox.
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#78912 - Dan2552 - Mon Apr 10, 2006 3:40 pm

tepples wrote:
So why doesn't the official software work on Windows 2000? I feel that Nintendo is unwise in requiring Windows XP, as the upgrade from Windows 2000 to Windows XP gives Microsoft revenue that it uses to finances the Xbox.


Lazy.




and btw, my original question for this thread - i meant WMB. I guess no extra cards work with that than with wifime...?

#79633 - iceman7 - Fri Apr 14, 2006 7:20 pm

@masscat

according to Simon's site...: "I'm not sure if this is different for every system (I think so), if you want to know what to type here, type mount and replace sda4 with the other sd you find in the output." (from halfway part 5)

Mount /dev/sda4"

i get a error, which sd do i have to use? :S


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(btw...do you know simon personally?...I think simon is dutch, just like me, so i can talk to him easily)

EDIT: i might know why it doesn't work. The usb data stick that i use is actually a MP3 player, you have to install something with it, but the software is on it. Example: When i bring the Mp3 player with me to a friend, and i use it on his computer, the MP3 player installs himself and after a few seconds it ready to go. I don't know if Knoppix installs the software automaticly...perhaps i have to find a normal USB data stick.....but i hope my MP3 player works as well.

let me know if this is the problem, thanks in advance

EDIT2:can i use a cd-rw instead of the USB data stick?
EDIT3:I did it :D, i used a floppy instead of the USB data stick,because i didnt have to mount it, but a floppy is limited, i want to use a cdrom, is that auto mounted like the floppy?
if yes, what is the last command?(wmb -i ninusb0 -c 13 /mnt/?????/zelda.nds

pls help me wth this, i'm so close to the final solution :)

it's MP3player or CD-ROM, floppy(with the Brain Age demo) did already work :)