#100459 - shaz - Mon Aug 28, 2006 12:55 am
#100460 - tepples - Mon Aug 28, 2006 1:14 am
Summary: - October 2.
- 175 USD.
- Nintendo On video was fake but the HMD is a $79 accessory for Wii.
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#100480 - darkfader - Mon Aug 28, 2006 4:42 am
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The paper looks too wrinkled and it's looks the same for each page!
A HMD would be nice but that price is way too cheap. But someone should hint Nintendo about this anyway. I don't mind these fake rumors ;)
They still could patch games to use alternate input controllers (e.g. HMD-tracking)
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#100507 - JaJa - Mon Aug 28, 2006 10:09 am
Judging by the amount of spelling and grammar errors i'd have to yell 'FAKE' at this document.
It was also pointed out my HonkeyKong in #dsdev that the phone number is actually their customer support number, not their PR number.
[10:05] HonkeyKong: The phone number in the upper right corner isn't their PR number, it's the customer support number.
[10:05] HonkeyKong: The same phone number that's on the label of every Nintendo console since the NES.
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#100641 - dantheman - Tue Aug 29, 2006 3:29 am
I agree, it looks and sounds fake to me.
Something like this could be easily Photoshopped I'd imagine.
#100673 - JaJa - Tue Aug 29, 2006 2:09 pm
Yeah, photoshopping it makes more sense than typing the document, printing it out, crumpling it up and then scanning it.
And is far more realistic.
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#100684 - StoneCypher - Tue Aug 29, 2006 7:00 pm
I'm not commenting on the validity of this text; I honestly have no idea. What I can say are two things:
1) I have a lot of internal Nintendo documents (none on the Wii,) and they are rife with spelling errors. Yay, Engrish.
2) Those crumples aren't identical, they're very similar. The same sort of thing happens when you crumple several pages at the same time.
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#100704 - darkfader - Tue Aug 29, 2006 11:16 pm
I just put the pictures on multiple layers with lighten effect. I googled a little bit and couldn't find a similar wrinkled paper image.
The text does line up though and I saw a few differences when differentiating the layers but that could also be because of JPEG artifacts perhaps.
So these papers came out of a wastebin? And wouldn't a photocopier hide the wrinkles much less? The text looks all straight.
About that HMD... I just recall that they did have something at E3. This is an interesting news page: http://www.3001ad.com/currentnews.cfm?c=v&n=39
Perhaps they just screwed with the price somehow.
I don't see any specs but I heard it was uber crappy and not 3D at all :)
Here it says they've improved it a bit though... http://www.trimersion.com/news.cfm?c=v&n=1
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#100753 - JaJa - Wed Aug 30, 2006 9:10 am
Yeah, I was thinking about the spelling errors, if it was a draft then they may not have been paying much attention.
Some backstory here: http://gonintendo.com/?p=5040
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| I noticed Mr. Fils-Aime putting something in the confidential waste bin, and walked over after he had left for a meeting.. the bin was full to the top as usual, and these screwed up pages were just in reach through the lid (without taking it off and spilling papers everywhere). There?s not much I can do to prove my credibility, however I think they may be of interest to you.. |
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#100795 - Lynx - Wed Aug 30, 2006 5:06 pm
I don't know about Nintendo, but our "confidential" waste bin has a shredder sitting on top of it..
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#100804 - darkfader - Wed Aug 30, 2006 8:15 pm
Perhaps he sabotaged the schredder beforehand ;P
#100813 - JaJa - Wed Aug 30, 2006 9:23 pm
Rather than shredding the paper in house, some companies put their paper in big bins where they are shredded by a team who come around in a lorry.
Alternatively they are burnt.
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#100816 - keldon - Wed Aug 30, 2006 9:58 pm
| JaJa wrote: |
Yeah, I was thinking about the spelling errors, if it was a draft then they may not have been paying much attention.
Some backstory here: http://gonintendo.com/?p=5040
| Quote: | | I noticed Mr. Fils-Aime putting something in the confidential waste bin, and walked over after he had left for a meeting.. the bin was full to the top as usual, and these screwed up pages were just in reach through the lid (without taking it off and spilling papers everywhere). There?s not much I can do to prove my credibility, however I think they may be of interest to you.. |
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Hmm, the bin doesn't sound that 'confidential'. I would hardly consider the screwing up of paper as any viable means of making your information confidential at all :)
#100845 - tepples - Thu Aug 31, 2006 2:05 am
| Lynx wrote: |
| our "confidential" waste bin has a shredder sitting on top of it.. |
Three days a week, I volunteer on the second floor of the VA Medical Center in Fort Wayne, Indiana. There are eight wastebaskets in six rooms that I empty and carry their contents to a shredder on the same floor. If "shred this later" is good enough for the government...
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#100866 - sgeos - Thu Aug 31, 2006 7:39 am
| Lynx wrote: |
| I don't know about Nintendo, but our "confidential" waste bin has a shredder sitting on top of it.. |
Maybe it went in the bin that also accepts banana peels and other non-shred-able items. People are people- they make mistakes (if that's what you'd want to call this).
The phone number *is* fishy. I'm in no rush, so I'll wait for an official announcement.
-Brendan
#100871 - keldon - Thu Aug 31, 2006 7:59 am
Maybe it was leaked on purpose.
#100879 - MaHe - Thu Aug 31, 2006 9:48 am
It is completely fake:
* Nintendo would never call their console Nintendo Wii, just simply Wii
* The papers background is clearly the same (maybe just rotated/mirrored) on all the pages
* I really don't get the telephone number
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#100892 - 0xtob - Thu Aug 31, 2006 1:48 pm
I find this the head mounted display stuff hard to believe. I mean, Nintendo always stressed that they designed the Wii controller as something easy, that no one would be afraid to pick up and play with. Now imagine an 80s looking head mounted display lying on your living room table. You know what the virtual boy looked like, don't you? Instead of playing with it, your mother would rather throw it away in disgust of all the hairs and scall on it.
#100900 - darkfader - Thu Aug 31, 2006 3:32 pm
| 0xtob wrote: |
| Nintendo always stressed that they designed the Wii controller as something easy, that no one would be afraid to pick up and play with. |
The HMD has no buttons to press. Simply put it on your head and you're in the game :)
In your hands you'd hold the Wiimote.
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| Now imagine an 80s looking head mounted display lying on your living room table. You know what the virtual boy looked like, don't you? Instead of playing with it, your mother would rather throw it away in disgust of all the hairs and scall on it. |
Heh. The Virtual Boy indeed looks very old (and cheap). Nowadays they are supposed to look futuristic, right?
Mothers might think it's not a healthy thing though. Bad for the eyes etc etc.
#100913 - 0xtob - Thu Aug 31, 2006 6:46 pm
Yes, but this is not about the ease of use, but about the inhibition threshold of picking it up and using it. By making the controller look intentionally like a remote control, i.e. a device that everybody is used to, Nintendo wanted to take away the "fear" of non-gamers. Now, by putting an HMD next to the controller, they would achieve exectly the opposite. I mean, however nice it might look, it's not going to look like anything your mother uses.
Also, the images and sound could probably not be transmitted wirelessly to the HMD, so there would be a cable to the Wii. Now imagine yourself standing in your living room wearing this helmet and swinging the Wiimote around. At some point you will stumble over the cable and pull the HMD off your head or accidentially beat up other people, or step on your cat.
I really don't think an HMD would help much to bring video gaming to people who haven't played before.
#100929 - tepples - Thu Aug 31, 2006 9:52 pm
| 0xtob wrote: |
| Also, the images and sound could probably not be transmitted wirelessly to the HMD |
It can be broadcast at low power (under FCC Part 15 rules or foreign counterparts) over unused TV spectrum to a receiver in the HMD.
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#101719 - psycorpse - Thu Sep 07, 2006 5:49 pm
I think that the HMD would be for the gamers and not your everyday Moms and Dads. However, as stated in the paper (fake or not) you wouldn't have to have the HMD to still play the game. It would be just an add on. You also have to think that Nintendo would work on some sort of HMD. They would improve the Virtual Boy. I don't remember any other console manufacture making something like this.
Just my 2 cents
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#101826 - Lynx - Fri Sep 08, 2006 7:56 am
Well, if it's real.. I say good luck and hopefully it isn't toooooo expensive. HMDs in my opinion, of which I own 2, have a pretty short life. Unless there are a lot of games available to use them, fit and feeling is exceptional, and there is a real benefit to using it, like head tracking or 3D.. They become a nice paper weight very quickly. Both of my HMDs are great quality (and were expensive at the time) and the feeling is OK for both of them.. but it doesn't take long for you neck to start hurting and games to lose the coolness factor when you are stairing at a couple of LCD screens 3 inches from your eyes. Now, take that and add the multiple hours people spend playing their consoles. Most will end up on the entertainment center as a conversation piece..
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#101884 - DiscoStew - Fri Sep 08, 2006 5:34 pm
I was just wondering something..
The Wiimote works by a sensor bar mounted (or at least positioned) on a television, right? Well, with the HMD on, would it completely obscure your vision? If so, if you somehow get all mixed up, how could you really tell if you are pointing with it correctly?
Just a thought, possibly easy to answer.
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#101885 - keldon - Fri Sep 08, 2006 5:48 pm
It could work by the HMD identifying its own position and relaying that to the player. With the HMD on you will be responding directly to the game, so you never need to consider where the TV is, you can point directly at whatever your eyes see.
But then it could always just be down the the fact that there is no HMD ^_^
#101891 - Lynx - Fri Sep 08, 2006 6:34 pm
| keldon wrote: |
| But then it could always just be down the the fact that there is no HMD ^_^ |
Oh.. there is HMD... ;)
Just maybe not for the Wii.. :D
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#101908 - keldon - Fri Sep 08, 2006 8:47 pm
If there are HMD's then that is proof that there are WMD's. But there are no WMD's, and HMD's implies WMD's, then there are no HMD's either ^_^
#101923 - Lynx - Sat Sep 09, 2006 12:26 am
I disagree. You can have HMDs without WMDs.. you just can't have WMDs without HMDs.. We're not talking rocket science here.. Now, if you take an EMD before you add the H part of the MD, and change it to a W you could get a WMD.. but.. In the process you'd have an HMD.. so the theory stands.
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