#106989 - sgeos - Wed Oct 25, 2006 3:02 pm
Can anyone suggest a web hosting service? I'm looking for domain name registration and hosting. I'll want to set up some method of accepting credit cards. A shopping cart system would be ideal. I expect to get the cart and hosting through different services providers.
-Brendan
#106990 - Joe_Sextus - Wed Oct 25, 2006 3:24 pm
I've been looking at using Lunapages (http://www.lunarpages.com). My aunt used them while she was running a commercial website. They have pretty good service and one of the highest uptimes I've seen.
-Joe
#107004 - poslundc - Wed Oct 25, 2006 5:08 pm
I used Hostica's dollar-plan for several years. Although you require a much more sophisticated/expensive plan, they were always an excellent provider to me.
Dan.
#107005 - josath - Wed Oct 25, 2006 5:10 pm
I know dev-scene uses http://www.hostmonster.com/
They seem to have pretty good prices
#107043 - sgeos - Wed Oct 25, 2006 10:53 pm
Thanks for the leads.
-Brendan
#107092 - gauauu - Thu Oct 26, 2006 2:46 pm
Netfirms has a special cheap deal right now for one year:
http://www.netfirms.com/max
After the one year, they are just another mediocre hosting provider, though...
#107094 - sgeos - Thu Oct 26, 2006 3:06 pm
FWIW I don't want a page builder. FTP is the way to go. Then again, I imagine that any real hosting company provides FTP. In theory I might want server side scripts (php, etc). In practice server side scripts will happen either when absolutely necessary, or if help comes along. =)
-Brendan
#107102 - sgeos - Thu Oct 26, 2006 4:25 pm
Netfirms $10 for a year looks fantastic next to everything else.
-Brendan
#107103 - poslundc - Thu Oct 26, 2006 4:46 pm
Just make sure you don't get suckered into paying for additional years.
Companies have been known to do this kind of promotion before to attract customers... a few years back I got three free years with 1and1.com, just by signing up at the right time. That was awesome, but eventually you want to find a company and a package that suits your needs and is at a price you don't mind paying, as once you actually set up a website it can be a pain to take it all down again, transfer any databases, scripts, etc., as well as your DNS and e-mail to a new provider.
Dan.
#107142 - sgeos - Fri Oct 27, 2006 3:42 am
Thanks for the warning. I can write halfway decent xhtml, but don't have much experience in anything more complicated than that. I'll probably want to keep the site as simple as possible until I switch.
-Brendan
#107145 - poslundc - Fri Oct 27, 2006 4:44 am
If you don't require fancy scripting or database features, Hostica's 1-1-1 plan is $12/year, and the price doesn't go up.
Dan.
#107160 - sgeos - Fri Oct 27, 2006 9:03 am
| poslundc wrote: |
| If you don't require fancy scripting or database features, Hostica's 1-1-1 plan is $12/year, and the price doesn't go up. |
I want a shopping cart. I could probably just use paypal though.
Is one gig in traffic a month enough? (For my personal homepage, sure. At first, sure- nobody will be looking at it.) I get 32 megs a day in a 32 day month. What happens if/when I go over that limit?
-Brendan
#107166 - keldon - Fri Oct 27, 2006 10:22 am
| sgeos wrote: |
Is one gig in traffic a month enough? (For my personal homepage, sure. At first, sure- nobody will be looking at it.) I get 32 megs a day in a 32 day month. What happens if/when I go over that limit?
-Brendan |
Most of the ones I see will stop any more traffic, but you may be able to pay to increase your bandwidth for the month.
Beware of spiders, they can eat up your bandwidth big time if they are poorly written and get stuck in a loop.
#107199 - poslundc - Fri Oct 27, 2006 4:21 pm
| sgeos wrote: |
| I want a shopping cart. I could probably just use paypal though. |
Ah, well, you probably want something more feature-rich than the 1-1-1 plan then. :D
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| Is one gig in traffic a month enough? |
Unless you've got huge images or streaming content, it should be plenty. You will have time to see if your traffic ever ramps up to that amount, and if it does you should have plenty of time deal with it.
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| Beware of spiders, they can eat up your bandwidth big time if they are poorly written and get stuck in a loop. |
You can create a robots.txt file that will keep most spiders from crawling into areas you don't want them to. Of course, those aren't usually the poorly written ones, but I suppose there's not much you can do about those... I don't think I've ever run into a problem with them, though.
Dan.
#107202 - sgeos - Fri Oct 27, 2006 4:33 pm
| poslundc wrote: |
| sgeos wrote: | | I want a shopping cart. I could probably just use paypal though. |
Ah, well, you probably want something more feature-rich than the 1-1-1 plan then. :D |
Probably. =) I must admit, 1-1-1 quite a deal. It is perfect for a low traffic personal home page.
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| Quote: | | Is one gig in traffic a month enough? |
Unless you've got huge images or streaming content, it should be plenty. You will have time to see if your traffic ever ramps up to that amount, and if it does you should have plenty of time deal with it. |
Thanks. I don't expect much traffic at first. Naturally, I'm hoping for lots of traffic eventually. =P
This forum is fairly busy. How much traffic does it get a month?
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| Quote: | | Beware of spiders, they can eat up your bandwidth big time if they are poorly written and get stuck in a loop. |
You can create a robots.txt file that will keep most spiders from crawling into areas you don't want them to. Of course, those aren't usually the poorly written ones, but I suppose there's not much you can do about those... I don't think I've ever run into a problem with them, though. |
How do spiders get stuck in loops? Search engine spiders are "good", right? What other kinds of spiders are there?
-Brendan
#107217 - SimonB - Fri Oct 27, 2006 7:16 pm
| sgeos wrote: |
| This forum is fairly busy. How much traffic does it get a month? |
The forum part uses about 5GB/month, with 3 million requests. Keep in mind though that most of the 'traffic' on your website will most likely be images and not the pages. This forum is quite low on fancy gfx. Imagine what would happend if everyone had a nice avatar next to their name =)
| sgeos wrote: |
| How do spiders get stuck in loops? Search engine spiders are "good", right? What other kinds of spiders are there? |
Spambots and bots that download your complete websites over and over again. Make sure you get the raw weblogs for your websites so you can go thru them to find and block 'bad visitors'.
#107234 - tepples - Fri Oct 27, 2006 10:11 pm
| SimonB wrote: |
| This forum is quite low on fancy gfx. Imagine what would happend if everyone had a nice avatar next to their name =) |
Very little, in practice. Most avatars in public phpBB sites seem to be hotlinked from a remote server.
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| Spambots and bots that download your complete websites over and over again. Make sure you get the raw weblogs for your websites so you can go thru them to find and block 'bad visitors'. |
Or get the Bad Behavior mod, which has predefined rules for known bad visitors.
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#107354 - gauauu - Sat Oct 28, 2006 11:03 pm
| sgeos wrote: |
| What other kinds of spiders are there? |
Spam spiders, searching for email addresses. Or other similar evil things.
#107363 - SimonB - Sun Oct 29, 2006 12:46 am
| tepples wrote: |
| SimonB wrote: | | This forum is quite low on fancy gfx. Imagine what would happend if everyone had a nice avatar next to their name =) |
Very little, in practice. Most avatars in public phpBB sites seem to be hotlinked from a remote server. |
This forum (and gbadev.org for that matter) doesnt allow linking to external images, so they would have to be stored locally. Sure, most browsers would cache the avatars but even so, there would be a lot of different avatars to load. It would easily double the traffic and requests.
| tepples wrote: |
| Or get the Bad Behavior mod, which has predefined rules for known bad visitors. |
Without checking more than the search words....that seems to be an addon for the phpbb forum and not a general website script to keep evil bots away. Or did you mean that one could check and copy what predefined rules it uses to find evil bots and then incorporate it in your own website's anti-bad-bot script, and thus not needing to rely on raw weblogs to the same extent?
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#107365 - SimonB - Sun Oct 29, 2006 1:02 am
| SimonB wrote: |
| Without checking more than the search words....that seems to be an addon for the phpbb forum and not a general website script to keep evil bots away. Or did you mean that one could check and copy what predefined rules it uses to find evil bots and then incorporate it in your own website's anti-bad-bot script, and thus not needing to rely on raw weblogs to the same extent? |
Actually, sometimes when a visitor is not logged in, googleads will show banners for "selected non-profit organizations". While I dont really like external images loading, I have looked away in this perticular case.
#107369 - darkfader - Sun Oct 29, 2006 1:21 am
I recently moved darkfader.net to http://dreamhost.com/
There are several promo codes to get $99 off the first time or even more (code "99999").
One free name registration as long you keep it hosted there.
Nice and easy management console. Easy to create subdomains, multiple databases, SSH, backup, more...
#107860 - josath - Thu Nov 02, 2006 5:26 pm
Dreamhost's prices look good, but there are a lot of people on the internet complaining about them (just google for "dreamhost sucks"). I don't have any personal experience with them, but it's something to note.