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OffTopic > Sometimes freedom provides no choice at all

#123866 - keldon - Sun Apr 01, 2007 12:42 am

I've found that when you are given too much options that you often do not have much choice. Take the hundred different distributions for Linux as an example; sure there are hundreds to choose from - now I need to make a decision.

But what do I base my decision on? I want Linux, what am I choosing between? Each distribution does the same thing (with my current knowledge); but what I am getting at is not just Linux, but everything where you have a big choice that will change everything about your operation.

MFC/win32/Forms/QT/wxWidgets!!! If I start which one do I start with? If you learned one inside out, then the rest, then you could decide which one is best for you. But I prefer definitive answers; start HERE! Am I the only one?

#123873 - Lick - Sun Apr 01, 2007 1:34 am

Life is like this all the time. Life sucks.

I have many of these deep-philosophy-rants too. What I've learned is that it is useless to complain about things you cannot change. I experience this almost every day, and I think you have this feeling very often as well. It might be the effect of a slight depression, or the cause.
Anyway, the world works this way and I know you don't feel like adapting but you have to. Try changing your mindset. Look at things from another perspective. Please don't stay in this I-don't-like-this-reality-situation because there is no one who will take you to a reality where you find things "your way". There's no option but to stay in this damn world, but there is an option to how you live in it.
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#123882 - sgeos - Sun Apr 01, 2007 3:31 am

A) Pick something
B) Move on
C) Worry about more important things
D) Reflect on past mistakes so you won't them again

-Brendan

#123892 - Ant6n - Sun Apr 01, 2007 6:00 am

aww, but i like bitching about stuff, .. makes me happier after bad day

#123893 - sgeos - Sun Apr 01, 2007 6:25 am

Ant6n wrote:
aww, but i like bitching about stuff, .. makes me happier after bad day

This is a hobby.

-Brendan

#123907 - keldon - Sun Apr 01, 2007 10:09 am

I'm just one of those people who don't like to commit to a choice without being informed of why. With Linux I simply tried them all to see what the difference was; and there are differences. I found this amazing website that will ask you a set of questions and guide you to choosing the right distribution; but for win32/mfc and so on; I found the information a little biased.

I'm a little biased to starting with win32 because that is what I started with. I love the way you can arrange windows in Java and winForms too; although Java is far more developed and the best way in winForms is to use the J# library ^_^

These are just some observations, part rant, part wondering what the solution is. I am thinking very much of going back to uni for a Masters; and after looking at the books on offer for learning 'things' I think there is a much better approach. This can be a really good research topic as my previous topic was on learning and I know what books (as they are in my bibliography).

#123945 - Ant6n - Sun Apr 01, 2007 11:32 pm

a Master thesis on which linux to use?

#123949 - keldon - Mon Apr 02, 2007 12:06 am

lol, no research on learning theories. In the last year of my bachelors we did a group project on learning/genetic algorithms, and both topics interested me a lot. So for final year projects there are a few related choices:
- GA for poker AI
- applying advanced learning theories to teaching programming (with gui's etc)
- completing my theory of the 'Image/Learning theorem' where ones knowledge is considered to be a set containing reflections on subsets of a set containing all knowledge. All knowledge contains all truth, plus all beliefs (which may contradict the truth), etc. Also where truth exists, such as the contours of a dog, ones can use his knowledge of what it looks like from the side to figure out what it looks like from the front. In that same way one can take their learning of one subject from a particular angle, and figure out the existing information. Many books support this concept but never have it as part of a single theorem.
- combining searching with theories of AI and learning (was far too complicated for a master)
- GA for music composition
- studies on the application of genes, fitness functions and chromosomes in GA's
- a study on communities and linking the information together in a more ideal fashion. For example there are plenty of links more relevant to this community, so a search within the domain of games programming would yield different results to a general search. Search engines do not take this into consideration although have mechanisms for this

#124306 - MrD - Thu Apr 05, 2007 12:24 am

Life is a series of Hobson's choices string together through causality. Sucks, dunnit? D:
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#124337 - sgeos - Thu Apr 05, 2007 4:36 am

MrD wrote:
Life is a series of Hobson's choices string together through causality.

I disagree. With a little bit of money there are a whole bunch of crazy life changing things you can do as long as you don't aspire to the norm. In general, societies are happy "as is" because the people on top are happy on top; the norm aspires to keep people in their place. Normal people don't travel through Africa.

-Brendan

#124346 - keldon - Thu Apr 05, 2007 7:26 am

Very true. It's something like 95% of all people willing to settle for the norm, the other 5% employ them!

#124391 - Miked0801 - Thu Apr 05, 2007 6:33 pm

Or try to, screw up, and end up in the bottom 1% for a while.

#124474 - sgeos - Fri Apr 06, 2007 5:44 am

The norm is the safe path. In general it suppresses erratic life changes, both positive and negative. You won't make CEO if you are hired at entry level and just do your job. Then again, you won't go hungry either.

Being a owner is hard, that is why they make an owner's salary. Often enough, this salary is debt followed by bankruptcy. =) Things like callable convertible junk bonds are wonderful things. =P

-Brendan

#124487 - keldon - Fri Apr 06, 2007 6:54 am

Yes, very true; but great success is only available to those who are willing willing to take the risk of financial death. There reaches a point where you can reach the next level at a risk of losing everything. Take Howard Hughes for example, he banked all of his money in areas that never had that amount of money and through this excelled from a millionaire to a billionaire.

#124523 - sgeos - Fri Apr 06, 2007 4:04 pm

Whereas being a millionaire is nothing to stick your nose up at, a million dollars really is not all that much money. If you own a house (that is paid for), one or two buildings for your business, vehicles, a few other miscellaneous assets, you are probably a millionaire. This may amount to house and store; done. (If you don't mind being leveraged, you'll have a bunch more.)

A billionaire has 1000 times that much. There really is a huge difference.

-Brendan

#124630 - keldon - Sat Apr 07, 2007 12:02 pm

Being a millionaire in the UK is like twice as good as being a millionaire in the US ^_^ But my mistake, I meant multi millionaire.

#124965 - Vich - Tue Apr 10, 2007 12:43 pm

keldon wrote:
I've found that when you are given too much options that you often do not have much choice.

That doesn't make sense! If you state that you have too much options, how can you have not enough of them at the same time?

Quote:
Take the hundred different distributions for Linux as an example; sure there are hundreds to choose from - now I need to make a decision.

But what do I base my decision on? I want Linux, what am I choosing between? Each distribution does the same thing (with my current knowledge);

How can you select something that meets your requirements if you don't have any requirements?

Quote:
but what I am getting at is not just Linux, but everything where you have a big choice that will change everything about your operation.

MFC/win32/Forms/QT/wxWidgets!!! If I start which one do I start with? If you learned one inside out, then the rest, then you could decide which one is best for you. But I prefer definitive answers; start HERE! Am I the only one?


Am I the only one thinking this is an April 1st joke? :P
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#124967 - binarystar - Tue Apr 10, 2007 1:11 pm

In the words of John Paul-Sartre .. man is condemned to be free ... maybe you should read Being & Nothingness as a start

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Being_and_Nothingness

Why does the rich house wife with all the possibilities in the world choose to sit on the couch all day and watch television?

#124973 - keldon - Tue Apr 10, 2007 3:18 pm

Vich wrote:
keldon wrote:
I've found that when you are given too much options that you often do not have much choice.

That doesn't make sense! If you state that you have too much options, how can you have not enough of them at the same time?

Options are decisions, but in many cases less is more. Maybe another context can illustrate it; Gameboy Development. Quite simply you go out and give DevkitPro; on the other hand you give them a choice of 1000. Much better to have the one solid environment and direct them to the tonc tutorials.

Vich wrote:
Quote:
Take the hundred different distributions for Linux as an example; sure there are hundreds to choose from - now I need to make a decision.

But what do I base my decision on? I want Linux, what am I choosing between? Each distribution does the same thing (with my current knowledge);

How can you select something that meets your requirements if you don't have any requirements?

I think you completely miss what I am getting at. You get windows, you get windows. The only choice is XP/Home! So if buying a computer do I get Mac or Windows. Add Linux to the list and it is Mac/Windows/Linux(Gentoos/Suse/Mandriva/Ubuntu/Kubuntu). But between that nothing is clear cut; no single answer, unless you use that wizard.

Vich wrote:
Quote:
but what I am getting at is not just Linux, but everything where you have a big choice that will change everything about your operation.

MFC/win32/Forms/QT/wxWidgets!!! If I start which one do I start with? If you learned one inside out, then the rest, then you could decide which one is best for you. But I prefer definitive answers; start HERE! Am I the only one?


Am I the only one thinking this is an April 1st joke? :P

Maybe because you are trying to find fault with what is being said as opposed to understand what someone is getting at. Just a thought!

#126838 - RegalSin - Fri Apr 27, 2007 5:01 am

Just download Redhat or whatever was used first. Get Wine and use that for windows programs if you can.

Windows just get 98 and use that for daily use but if you need the xtra 4Gig space then gat 2000 and choose updates. Go to msfn fourms for more info.
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