#126085 - sgeos - Thu Apr 19, 2007 10:58 pm
I'm on a 56k modem at the moment, so I turned off images when I went to an image heavy site. I noticed that new topics are hard to detect without images. On a certain level, I think it would be neat if all images on the forum were replaced with text; they don't do much for the forum.
-Brendan
#126086 - Dood77 - Thu Apr 19, 2007 11:04 pm
Or, easier would be to have a 'no images' option that could be saved in a cookie. Or use a different port for a no images proxy like thing. (like they do for cell phone versions of websites?)
This might also be useful for the text-only DS browsers...
#126092 - keldon - Thu Apr 19, 2007 11:44 pm
Hmmm, considering there are over 10 links that appear on every page removing images is a bit of a UI transition. I just turned images off and the first thing that one notes is that there is little distinction between common page links and those that are specific to temporal functionality - especially posting replies to topics.
Having said that it could possibly be solved by using different link colours, but should still remain looking like a button.
And I used to use a 56k modem until about 4 years ago, never gave me any problems except for forums where people had 1MB animated signatures - so I just turned off signatures ^_^ In fact I logged back onto the site last year and only realized that I took off signatures when someone made a comment about an image that a person had, I turned it on and it was awful; everyone had 1MB animated images, and their signatures took up half the page.
#126096 - tepples - Thu Apr 19, 2007 11:56 pm
| sgeos wrote: |
| I'm on a 56k modem at the moment, so I turned off images when I went to an image heavy site. I noticed that new topics are hard to detect without images. |
Then use the whitelist feature of whatever you're using to block images to cancel the block for forum.gbadev.org.
New topics are easy to detect: Try "View posts since your last visit" at the right side of the front page.
Links that look like a button are easy to make in CSS
| Code: |
@media handheld {
a.button {
background: #FFF;
border-top: 0.2em solid #CCC;
border-left: 0.2em solid #CCC;
border-bottom: 0.2em solid #333;
border-right: 0.2em solid #333;
}
} |
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#126112 - dantheman - Fri Apr 20, 2007 2:48 am
I'm not sure if it's possible with phpBB, but many forums offer low-res versions of their pages with all images removed and all pages reformatted to better suit mobile browsing. For instance, ZFGC.com, which uses SMF, offers a low-res version of its forums at http://www.zfgc.com/index.php?action=boardindex;wap2, while other forums simply have a link on the bottom of each page that leads to a low-res version of the individual thread.
#126115 - HyperHacker - Fri Apr 20, 2007 3:06 am
PHPBB on a text-only browser just sucks. Replacing images with text would help, though.
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#126116 - gauauu - Fri Apr 20, 2007 3:09 am
I'm confused....whenever I go to this site with images turned off, the alt text for the topic image tells whether there are new posts or not. Does this not show up for you?
#126178 - sgeos - Fri Apr 20, 2007 6:26 pm
There are work arounds. I just don't think the images add much. Does anyone browse this forum on a cell phone?
I don't think the buttons need to look like buttons in a text version.
-Brendan
#126181 - keldon - Fri Apr 20, 2007 6:54 pm
It adds to layout and focus. I was on the internet at 56k for years and I've never had to browse with all images turned off at all. Forums have many links and the images work as icons as well as give assist the layout. It could be done in all text, but is it necessary.
Even on a 56k modem the pages are cached and load as if it was text only anyway.
#126415 - Fling - Mon Apr 23, 2007 2:13 am
I browse these forums daily with a 26.4kbps connection (the crappy phone line in the house won't let me connect any faster) and this is definitely one of the fastest loading sites I visit.
#126482 - josath - Mon Apr 23, 2007 5:50 pm
Same here...with images turned off I get text links instead, that are perfectly usable.
In the forum pages, with lists of posts it is EASY to see if there are new posts. It either looks like:
| Code: |
No new Why not a Dual Slot fat system?
posts
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Or:
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New _View newest post_ comics on ds
posts
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The 'New Topic' image gets replaced with a text link 'Post New Topic', and so on.
If your browser doesn't show things correctly with images disabled, perhaps you need to switch browsers? (For reference, I'm using firefox 1.5 under linux)
#126486 - simonjhall - Mon Apr 23, 2007 7:26 pm
Can't there just be an option in your profile which says whether you want to see images in posts or not? That'd keep the 56k-ers happy...
I'd personally like to see images in threads.
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#126488 - tepples - Mon Apr 23, 2007 7:42 pm
| simonjhall wrote: |
| Can't there just be an option in your profile which says whether you want to see images in posts or not? That'd keep the 56k-ers happy... |
You can edit your Firefox profile using Tools > Options > Content > Load images automatically.
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#126494 - simonjhall - Mon Apr 23, 2007 9:29 pm
Nah, I mean the ability to have inline images in the posts, rather than seeing the "images are prohibited, click the link" string.
Plus, I'm an Opera guy - I'll be damned if I use FF ;-)
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#126497 - Lick - Mon Apr 23, 2007 9:48 pm
You could easily write a userscript (Opera:UserScript, FF:GreaseMonkey) to replace the "images are not allowed, click here to view" with an IMG-tag.
Though that's so much work compared to simply clicking the link.
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#126500 - Lick - Mon Apr 23, 2007 10:02 pm
| Code: |
var links = document.getElementsByTagName('a');
for(i=0; i<links.length; i++)
{
if(links[i].innerHTML.indexOf('not permitted') != -1)
{
var image = document.createElement('img');
image.setAttribute('src',links[i].href);
links[i].removeChild(links[i].firstChild);
links[i].appendChild(image);
}
} |
You can remove the whitespaces and replace some necessary whitespaces with %20, to make the above code a Bookmarklet.
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#126507 - gauauu - Mon Apr 23, 2007 10:57 pm
| simonjhall wrote: |
Nah, I mean the ability to have inline images in the posts, rather than seeing the "images are prohibited, click the link" string.
Plus, I'm an Opera guy - I'll be damned if I use FF ;-) |
Except that most of us love the fact that we're not spammed with stupid images. Most forums that I go to are a mess of avatars, signature images, and stupid stuff like that. This is the most clean and readable forum I've ever used. And it's precisely because of the strict image policies.
#126511 - keldon - Mon Apr 23, 2007 11:46 pm
I hate half of the signature images people use. Banner size images are fine, but people like to resort to animated gif's and pictures that take up half of the page, and your bandwidth with it.
#126569 - SimonB - Tue Apr 24, 2007 4:13 pm
What some people like to do is host their signature image on their own server etc, and then keep track of which IP's read which threads, and with phpbb its possible that way (well, depending on browser and http referrer setting) to check which IP is used to post a reply.
Of course, we could let people upload signature images on the gbadev forum server but I think the majority of us prefer to see the text, and then click on a link to see an image if we feel the need to see it.
#126574 - keldon - Tue Apr 24, 2007 5:02 pm
There are times where allowing images in a thread would be better, but not all the time.