#153367 - TheMagnitude - Sat Mar 29, 2008 10:32 am
http://www.google.co.uk/webhp?hl=en
Today it seems to be black, anyone know why this is?
#153368 - TheMagnitude - Sat Mar 29, 2008 10:34 am
Oh wait heres why:
http://www.google.co.uk/intl/en_uk/earthhour/
Anyone in the UK gonna do this, I think I am
#153369 - simonjhall - Sat Mar 29, 2008 12:23 pm
Anyone else try and calculate their carbon footprint? It just hung in the end, and I tried it with a couple of browsers.
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#153383 - SimonB - Sat Mar 29, 2008 2:13 pm
Let's follow suit... :)
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#153385 - silent_code - Sat Mar 29, 2008 2:44 pm
isn't it that dark colors on an LCD-monitor use more power than light ones? i've got that magazine with the artikle about that *somewhere*.
making a site all black won't save engergy then, at least assuming that most people have LCDs nowadays. ;^)
i find the whole "switching off" idea quite intersting, though.
#153392 - Lick - Sat Mar 29, 2008 3:19 pm
Yeah I believe it's harder to block light than to let it pass through on LCDs. That's why it's so hard to have a real dark "black". Not sure doh!
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#153410 - Joe_Sextus - Sat Mar 29, 2008 8:51 pm
| SimonB wrote: |
Let's follow suit... :)
Simon |
I like this "switched off" color scheme. Any chance of making it a permanent choice for theme?
#153419 - yellowstar - Sun Mar 30, 2008 2:00 am
| Joe_Sextus wrote: |
| SimonB wrote: | Let's follow suit... :)
Simon |
I like this "switched off" color scheme. Any chance of making it a permanent choice for theme? |
Maybe they could add the feature of multiple themes. One theme would be the original, while the other would be this black one.
Every user can set these themes in their profile, so nobody has to stay with black.
I kindof like this theme too. But, the posting text doesn't stand out as well as the original.(But, I've gotten used to it)
I think it makes it easier to look at for long sessions...(Browse for a long while on these forums with this theme)
#153420 - Dwedit - Sun Mar 30, 2008 3:37 am
It's bad to apply it here, because you can't read what you're typing into the post editor.
Black on Dark-Gray is impossible to read.
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#153422 - Lino - Sun Mar 30, 2008 5:38 am
Form me gbadev is black :(
#153423 - no2pencil - Sun Mar 30, 2008 6:38 am
| Joe_Sextus wrote: |
| SimonB wrote: | Let's follow suit... :)
Simon |
I like this "switched off" color scheme. Any chance of making it a permanent choice for theme? |
BlackGoogle.com
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#153431 - tepples - Sun Mar 30, 2008 1:04 pm
I immediately thought of Blackle.
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#153433 - silent_code - Sun Mar 30, 2008 3:03 pm
and again, they assume everyone is using CTRs. does anyone know the numbers / the ratio of LCDs/CRTs used? the trend (at least here in germany) is that most users buy laptops now, nearly all offices have already had LCDs for years and even MACs haven't had CRTs for quite some years <jokingly>.
i just know of some hardcore gamers, that are still using 100hz CRTs for gaming (i even find that nonsense... but that's about personal opinion, so let's leave it at that.)
let's remember, those sites claim to "save energy" by simply changing the frontend's color.
so then, how is it still true, today, that a dark image is more energy efficient than a bright one? when it comes to that, simply changeing colors on a webpage won't save us much, when compared to the amount of energy we waste for standby and pure "entertainment" (youtube / myspace / youporn / whatever nonsense.)
(i like wikipedia, though!)
could anyone explain that to me? this all looks kind of "shady" to me. it's so pseudo. most of us (i don't mean you guys) think we live in a world with no limits, but the quite opposite is the case. when will those people learn? oh, i know, when there's nothing to harvest anymore... enter the "matrix"... anyone? ;^p
<sarcasm> i could go on, but i don't what you to "waste" energy to read an even longer post. ;^p </sarcasm>
btw: i'm by no means an activist or something, i simply fail to see how things people do apply to what they say. (what about you tepples? right now i'm interested in you point of view - it's not because of something you said or did, though.)
ps: imho, it should read "not wasting" energy instead of "saving" energy. ;^p
#153434 - simonjhall - Sun Mar 30, 2008 4:06 pm
Well I guess they figure that even if there's no saving for LCD users, the few (?) people out there using CRTs will able to save power. On the flip side, by changing the main page, how many web caches were invalidated forcing machines to reload the page which has simply had the colour tweaked? How much power would that use?
Oh and I have a dual monitor setup...an LCD and a CRT. The CRT is completely stellar for games - if my machine is too slow to play at 1280x1024 on my TFT I just stick it on the CRT! And if the machine's up to the task I crank it up to 2048x1536 and let fly! It is a right pain in the ass to lug when I move house, though ;-)
A lot of graphics companies are stockpiling CRT monitors too, since they often have well-better colour response than equivalently-priced LCDs. I work with a good few peeps who recently quit the post-production biz...
/ot: I was once talking about Kingdom of Heaven at work and how it was the only film that I've seen at the cinema where I fell asleep. The guy who sits opposite me then pipes up "I worked on that film...". Smooth.
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#153435 - tepples - Sun Mar 30, 2008 4:14 pm
| silent_code wrote: |
| btw: i'm by no means an activist or something, i simply fail to see how things people do apply to what they say. (what about you tepples? right now i'm interested in you point of view - it's not because of something you said or did, though.) |
My point of view is that we are within 100 years of the end of this simulation. The major world powers will fight a World War V over the remaining resources. Sometime during this war, the most fit individuals alive at that point will be pulled out of the simulation and respawned in another.
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#153444 - silent_code - Sun Mar 30, 2008 8:31 pm
@tepples: quite the way i am thinking. :)
only biological and evolutionary rubbish could be left (hope i count among that) when all the powerful and meaningful creatures are gone.
it will be sticks and stones again! (wasn't that in the movie "australia 3000" or something?)
well, you can still make games with sticks and stones (and a bit of imagination). ;^p
@simon: what you seem to have forgotten is, that it's not just that it doesn't save LCD users anything, it uses (or transforms) *more* energy to display a dark image. you would see the (rather small, but everything sums up in the end) difference when displaying a dark 3d scene (doom3) and a bright 3d (some poppy bright colored kid game) scene. someone made that test once (that magazine i haven't found, yet.)
my point is, that with (i assume) most users having LCDs at home (think about LCD-tv and browsing on your tv, which gets quite popular these days), this is not savin, this is *wasting*!
btw: you're right about the CRTs and color responsibility. :^) it's a pain to design a webpage that nobody will see in the end because it's too dark. also, CRTs don't have that annoying change in brightnes/contrast over the screen's area. i've allways worked with laptops... it still strikes me sometimes how wrong stuff can be displayed on a LCD.
but compared to the power CRTs use, i might say, "LONG LIVE THE LCD!" ;^)
#153447 - simonjhall - Sun Mar 30, 2008 9:25 pm
Do LCD monitors really use more power when they're displaying black? The backlight's on regardless, right? The actual matrix can't be using much...but then again I have no idea what I'm talking about ;-)
Actually, is anyone else concerned by their power draw even if they're not paying for it? I reckon all the crap on my desk at work pulls 1kW and that's pretty worrying...
A thought on the black Google thing: I wonder if they would have saved the world more power if they'd taken their site down for the day!
a) I'm sure their servers use more power than a small town
b) when people get that "URL not available" message a large number of people (even if a small percentage) would say, "to hell with my surfing the net on my lunch break...I'm gonna go out and sit in a park!"
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#153452 - silent_code - Sun Mar 30, 2008 11:10 pm
exactly what i was thinking about! all this pseudo saving nonesense. it's just marketing, like "we're the good". put google offline (after all, it was the "switching off" day, not the "switch the color theme and progress with business as usual" day!) for a day and *then* people will get aware of the message. or at least just display a message and disable all services.
about the LCDs: i have that article somewhere, but from what i seem to remember is, that the matrix needs a bit of energy to hold the state a pixel is in. i really *have* to find some info about it.
man, this really got me started on that topic, didn't it? ;^D
AM I GETTING THIS WRONG, or is it supporting my thesis?
http://techlogg.com/content/view/360/31/
75% LCDs... just as i thought. ;^) although i don't know if it's the world marked or what (though, it looks like that).
i'd say this was "corporate BS" day to silence the "greens" a little. although i am not one of them (greens, as opposed to "greys" ;^p ), this makes me a bit angry. it's just another case of a wonderful idea, that has been butchered, torn apart and abused. that's not the way such things are meant to be.
i'm trying to waste as little energy as i can on a dayly base, but the power companies will charge more and more. and that's not because energy gets more expensive, it's just because they can. this is a big topic in the news here in germany. what about the other countries?
now i feel sorry. :^C
EDIT:
ok, i now found it it really IS 75% OF THE WORLD USERS, that use LCDs. wow. (different sources of information in german [google first searches for german pages by default, no matter what i set it to...])
<sarcasm> simply goolge it... or not. ;^p </sarcasm>
remember, this isn't about an LDC/CRT argument. ;^) this is just an example of how WRONG things are communicated to us "simple" people.
#153454 - simonjhall - Sun Mar 30, 2008 11:56 pm
Yeah power usage and the whole 'green' thing is really starting to become an issue over here now, not entirely due to the ever-increasing cost for electricity and gas. In the London papers there's normally a double spread set aside every day for green stuff.
On the other hand, when I moved to the place I currently live in, the council for this part of London is crap at recycling. The last few places I've lived in across England have had mandatory recycling, eg they only take your regular rubbish every other week etc but here (in Redbridge) they don't take shit! So for years I've been separating out my stuff but now I've kinda had to undo that programming a bit...
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#153455 - silent_code - Mon Mar 31, 2008 12:07 am
i hate to see it when you put some (little) work into separating your stuff and then, when the waste collecting company (don't know how else to call it) comes to get it, some dipshit puts it all into one container. damn!!!
maybe i should just shut down my computer and take out my old snes, plug it into my 5' lcd (for gamecube) and save the planet that way? ;^)
anyone remeber "captain planet"? ;^D
i'm going to read a book. good night!
#153460 - Dannon - Mon Mar 31, 2008 7:30 am
Captain Planet, he's a hero, gonna' take pollution down to zero...or something to that effect, then the water, fire, earth, air and another ring or two, I think there were five, I forget now, I was young
#153461 - simonjhall - Mon Mar 31, 2008 7:48 am
One of the rings was 'heart' - how annoyed would you be if you got that one?
"What did you get?"
"I got fire! Check out these fireballs I can do!"
"I got heart. I, err, can, err, fall in love with people? Yeah take that bad guys!"
...go planet!
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#153464 - silent_code - Mon Mar 31, 2008 11:38 am
ha, ha... :^)
in german in was translated to "love"... so you're kind of right. ;^)
but if that series were for adults only... who knows? it would literally mean "make love, not war" (normally i'm not into sex, but right now i find it funny ;^D )
#153487 - tepples - Mon Mar 31, 2008 9:23 pm
| simonjhall wrote: |
One of the rings was 'heart' - how annoyed would you be if you got that one?
"What did you get?"
"I got fire! Check out these fireballs I can do!"
"I got heart. I, err, can, err, fall in love with people? Yeah take that bad guys!" |
Q: What kind of lame power is "Heart", anyway?
A:
From Captain Planet Foundation's page: "Ma-Ti's element is Heart [video clip], which enables him to communicate telepathically with the other Planeteers and with Gaia. He is the essence of caring and concern, always willing to give of himself for the benefit of the whole."
From tvtropes.org: "While the other team members could control the raw elements with visually impressive feats, [Ma-Ti] was just Dr. Dolittle with a Spider Sense." So being a heartbender is useful, even if only for setting up the plot of Nintendo's Animal Crossing: it lets you speak animalese so that you can talk a raccoon into buying your trash.
In the film The Fifth Element, Leeloo is a genetically engineered woman who carries within her the fifth element, explained as love. (No, I haven't spoiled much.)
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#153489 - simonjhall - Mon Mar 31, 2008 9:45 pm
Like I said, what a crap power! Give me mind reading any day.
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#155790 - HyperHacker - Sun May 04, 2008 8:54 am
I wonder how much better off the world would be if there were simply recycle bins next to every public trash can.
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#155836 - tepples - Sun May 04, 2008 7:52 pm
| HyperHacker wrote: |
| I wonder how much better off the world would be if there were simply recycle bins next to every public trash can. |
That would require putting a Windows PC next to every Mac, no?
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#155842 - silent_code - Sun May 04, 2008 8:10 pm
| HyperHacker wrote: |
| I wonder how much better off the world would be if there were simply recycle bins next to every public trash can. |
haven't been to germany, yet? ;^D