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OffTopic > The Pandora handheld

#153894 - tepples - Tue Apr 08, 2008 12:15 am

In a topic about desired DS hardware modifications, 11X_daemon_X11 wrote:
More power... this includes more ram and more processors. As long as it can emulator the N64, I would be happy... xD

You'd like Pandora. Not the battery, Pandora.
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#153911 - simonjhall - Tue Apr 08, 2008 7:58 am

Is it real? Spring 2008 and all they've got are rendered images of the product...
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#153924 - SiW - Tue Apr 08, 2008 2:29 pm

simonjhall wrote:
Is it real? Spring 2008 and all they've got are hilariously bad rendered images of the product...


Fixed.

#153987 - tepples - Wed Apr 09, 2008 12:09 am

simonjhall wrote:
Is it real? Spring 2008 and all they've got are rendered images of the product...

And, apparently, PCB shots of the near-production board, and videos of mplayer and DonPachi running on the development board.
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#154269 - simonjhall - Sun Apr 13, 2008 10:37 pm

tepples wrote:
simonjhall wrote:
Is it real? Spring 2008 and all they've got are rendered images of the product...

And, apparently, PCB shots of the near-production board, and videos of mplayer and DonPachi running on the development board.
So I wonder what's with the dodgy renders? Maybe they made the site yonks ago, but have not had an excuse to update the page.

The machine itself does look entertaining enough, but the 'easiness' of development and better spec, as well as the non-existant user base put me off.
If I want to program something with lots of CPU power, I use my PC.
If I want to program something with that has detailed specs and documentation, I go to work.
If I want to program something that provides the bare minimum (yet is still very capable) I program my DS!

Not really too sure where this Pandora thing would fit into the mix... Plus what's with the name?! Pandora? It's almost like one of those generic "we tried really really hard" names, like "Morpheus", "Phoenix", "Nexus", "MegaTech" etc. AWESOM-O would be much better!
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#154278 - tepples - Mon Apr 14, 2008 12:03 am

You carry a frying pan. You use it to whack the little Hispanic explorer girl and her shoe-wearing monkey. Then you steal all the cash out of her Backpack Backpack.

I hope that's not the extent of games for the Pan Dora.
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#154279 - simonjhall - Mon Apr 14, 2008 12:08 am

Ah, Dora the Explorer?
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#154281 - tepples - Mon Apr 14, 2008 2:12 am

Right. True story: When I asked in a Target store about the new Pandora handheld game system, I got told the release date for the next Dora the Explorer game. I guess it'll be yet another mail-order-only system, which doesn't represent a sizable market for commercial game products because a lot of parents are hesitant to mail-order a child's Christmas present.

simonjhall wrote:
It's almost like one of those generic "we tried really really hard" names, like "Morpheus", "Phoenix", "Nexus", "MegaTech" etc. AWESOM-O would be much better!

At least it's not the Nintendo Go Take a Leak ;-)
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#154287 - SiW - Mon Apr 14, 2008 2:57 am

I was just talking about this on shacknews, about how disappointing it is to see a potential new platform and the only thing anyone* is interested in is running emulators faster.

* Obviously, this is not meant to be taken literally. It's just my dismay at fun, original homebrew apps being overshadowed by emulators.

#154290 - wintermute - Mon Apr 14, 2008 3:03 am

I have exactly the same dismay, it's the main reason why I dropped devkitGP2X. The vast majority of the people who use the gamepark & related devices are in it for emulation & piracy.
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#154291 - Exophase - Mon Apr 14, 2008 3:40 am

With respect to the thread title - neither Gamepark (now bankrupt) nor Gamepark Holdings has anything to do with the creation of the Pandora platform. It's being developed a by a small independent group of people, some involved in the GP2X scene, some even distributing them, but there's no actual connection.

#154293 - wintermute - Mon Apr 14, 2008 5:03 am

apart from the same old people who are going to buy it for emulation & piracy ...
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#154323 - tepples - Mon Apr 14, 2008 7:27 pm

Exophase wrote:
With respect to the thread title - neither Gamepark (now bankrupt) nor Gamepark Holdings has anything to do with the creation of the Pandora platform.

Fixed. Thanks.

wintermute wrote:
The vast majority of the people who use the gamepark & related devices are in it for emulation & piracy.
wintermute wrote:
apart from the same old people who are going to buy it for emulation & piracy ...

From the looks of it, even though its arrow keys are on the left, Pandora is not just a MAME Boy. Today while riding home from work on the bus, I realized that you can't spell PanDorA without PDA, and people buy PDAs that run Windows Mobile for emulation and piracy too. Along with mplayer, there's free organizer software that can be recompiled for ARM Linux, filling the niche that DSO and MoonShell fill on the DS. So what's the difference between a Linux-based PDA and a Windows-based PDA?
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#154440 - anomalous_underdog - Wed Apr 16, 2008 9:07 am

tepples wrote:

From the looks of it, even though its arrow keys are on the left, Pandora is not just a MAME Boy. Today while riding home from work on the bus, I realized that you can't spell PanDorA without PDA, and people buy PDAs that run Windows Mobile for emulation and piracy too. Along with mplayer, there's free organizer software that can be recompiled for ARM Linux, filling the niche that DSO and MoonShell fill on the DS. So what's the difference between a Linux-based PDA and a Windows-based PDA?


That's what I first thought when I saw that Pandora thing: a sort of really small Linux based laptop. When my Palm m130 broke down, I wanted to find a good PDA replacement, which led me to the DS. Now that there's this Pandora, I might buy it too, if its available here.

#154743 - zzo38computer - Mon Apr 21, 2008 5:13 am

This is a good idea. Now you can play word games as well, such as Word Warp (a game I play a lot on X-BIT), and you can do calculation quickly by pushing the numbers instead of have to move cursor every time to a different number to push, and other stuff as well. Will it have a touch-screen, or a serial port? I think it should have a touch screen, and a serial port, and also have a firmware upgrade file and BIOS, that if you hold down some combination on boot it will load from SD card directly without the operating system first. Is it compatible with GP2X at all?

The only "dora" I know is when you play Mahjong, the "dora" is a bonus tile that gives you 2x points every time, but does not count as a yaku.
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#154848 - tepples - Tue Apr 22, 2008 1:01 am

zzo38computer wrote:
Will it have a touch-screen, or a serial port? I think it should have a touch screen

Yes, 800x480px per the specifications.

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and a serial port

Universal Serial Bus (USB) 2.0, both host and device.

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and also have a firmware upgrade file and BIOS, that if you hold down some combination on boot it will load from SD card directly without the operating system first.

I don't know if it's just like the Cmd+Opt+C+D of the Mac or the A+B+X+Y or A+B+Sel+St of FlashMe, but the specs do talk about an unbricker.

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The only "dora" I know is when you play Mahjong, the "dora" is a bonus tile that gives you 2x points every time, but does not count as a yaku.

Finally, somebody who knows about the real mahjong, which isn't mahjong solitaire.
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#154907 - MechaBouncer - Tue Apr 22, 2008 8:50 pm

I saw reference to this a while ago in your sig, tepples. It looks like an interesting device. If I were in the market for a neat little MID or UMPC, I might consider it more. Unfortunately, I don't know if I could buy a $330 device solely for homebrew applications. It is very impressive spec-wise, comparable to the PSP in terms of 3D performance (if not exceeding), but who knows how long it will take for that potential to be used without commercial software support? The thing I love about the DS is that it is a great system even if it didn't have homebrew support. Without a strong library for it or support, I don't think I'd get one. It does seem cool, though. I would like to see it become a reality and do well.
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#154968 - theli - Wed Apr 23, 2008 11:09 am

tepples wrote:
Finally, somebody who knows about the real mahjong, which isn't mahjong solitaire.

speaking of which does any one knows of some portable one?
(i've heard there where some commercial ones in japan for DS but that would be hard to get (not counting that i don't know japanese))

#154996 - sgeos - Wed Apr 23, 2008 7:46 pm

theli wrote:
(i've heard there where some commercial ones in japan for DS but that would be hard to get (not counting that i don't know japanese))

If import fees equate to hard in your mind, then yes, it would probably be hard to get. I have not had anything imported in years...

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