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Me, silent_code, and nsm have decided that Mario's French cousin Jorge hasn't gotten the glory he deserves. I feel the need to take another poll of our little society to see who agrees.

yup. up with jorge! down with mario! (was jorge nintendo,too?)

AN made him up! :^)

i'm in. could someone (AN?) make a quick design doc? :^D
i can start tomorrow (it's 3:41 am)! yay!

ok, we've got a game! and there you had me thinking he was real. you've scarred me for life.

he should have a gayish voice (seriously, no offense against gays or les francais!) and a pink outfit. with heards and stuff. :^)

and we need lots and lots of haxor language in there! like a special "rofl!" attack or something!

and random sillyness! X^D

heck yeah. i just noticed that you guys moved to this one, lol.
-Design docs. got it. So I just wanna get this straight: is this a fighter or a 2d sidescroller? lol.
-And, as I have never done this before, what all is included in a design doc?

basically all that's needed! :^)
gameplay, entities, stages, resources... "what makes a game."
make it two pages in word, should be enough. :^D
there are some design document guides on the net, too.

let's say "donkey kong" meets "love parade" (that's not a game) meets "metroid" ... could go on like that.

just make it simple. ;^D

i have rotating sprites and static backgrounds working that we can build upon.

alright, sounds good. for starters, lots of chimpan Z's... I guess I will get my homework done and get on that. I can already tell that this is going to be more fun than... a barrel of chimpan Z's? Night silent... tomorrow, we blow the mario series out of the water!

-How big will this really be, like, in terms of worlds. (each about 3-4 lvls long)

one world, first. with 2 - 4 maps, maybe.

you should also list team positions, so that we can decide who will do what and if we need anyone else in the team. (you may include inspiration as well!)

after all, this should be a learning experience. ;^D

include game screen descriptions (short) as well as some playing tutorial text. shouldn't be too much. :^D

indeed... lets try this:

If I missed anything, tell me. Very basic layout here.

Last edited by Alphanoob on Tue May 06, 2008 4:02 am; edited 1 time in total

Go for it! Mario-style games are great fun and will teach you a lot of useful things. One suggestion: don't take it too seriously. Just whip stuff together and don't worry if the collision detection isn't perfect, or your data formats could be more efficient.

Check this out (might need alleg40.dll in windows\system). Created from nothing in 2 days of awesome high-speed typing and scribbling, including a 300 line function that reaches no less than 12 levels of indentation. Enemies are a bitmap and an entry in a code table, tilesets are a tall, 1 tile wide bitmap, and maps are an 8-bit bitmap (the game just interprets the color index of each pixel as a tile number) and an array of enemy positions. Who needs a level editor?
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=) thanks for the support. And trust me, we aren't taking anything too seriously. If you look at sniper's topic about doom, we got started on this in the 2nd and 3rd pages. Guaranteed not serious, lol.

Allegro has a broken "wait vsync" feature, which causes my laptop to become unresponsive. The geniuses at HP decided to give the keyboard and mouse lower process priority than allegro's vsync wait code.
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Ok, so here is what I have so far. If I need to add more (and I probably do) please tell me what else is needed.

%%Jorge the French Superplumber%%

Enemies
? Chimpan-Z?s: First level they walk towards you. Second roll barrels. Third throw poo. Fourth roll barrel, throw poo, and charge at you if they miss.
? The 1337s: Guys that jump around, and have sunglasses on because they think they are 1337, lol.
? Scissor runners: crazy little men that charge at you with wildly snipping scissors. If they miss you they trip and land on the scissors.
? Demon toilets: Fake toilets that chase you if you come close enough.

Level Design
? Similar to classic Mario, boxes with coins in them.
? At the end of each level you can but stuff with your accumulated money.
? Pools of radioactive waste rather than pits, if you fall in you die (maybe fly out all malformed and stuff, then walk off screen in a cut scene?)
? Boss on the last level of each world. Lvl 1 will have a crazy forum troll. He shoots spam balls at you and rains flam from the sky every once and a while.

Items
? First thing you find is your plunger. It is down a toilet in the first level.
? You can buy a poo launcher at the end of a level once you get enough money.
? You can find lives throughout levels in some boxes, or buy at the end of each level for 100 coins each
? More time is also available at the end of the level, 1 coin = 1 second.
? 3rd level there is a toilet with a spam ball technique in it. (should it shoot straight or bounce like classic fireballs?)
? You can change weapons in the start menu, just text (funnier that way with our totally conventional weapon setup)

You
? You are Mario?s brother; Jorge the Superplumber.
? You are on a quest to rescue your mail order wife from the clutches of the chimpan-Z overlord (a child eating super pooing sad troll panda, maybe?)
? Pipes are for sissies, you flush yourself down toilets to find treasure underground.

yeah, go make this into another one of 46137678678346 SMW hacks.
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umm... ok. I think I will. I was planning on a humerous plotline and a few changes. SMW just so happens to be a legendary game, so why not? Why did you bother reading this if you were just going to say how stupid you thought it was? me, silent, and nsm decided to take our funny little idea and run with it, and maybe turn it into a learning experience. I am already learning things, and this game is going to be *hilarious* when it is done. Just look at the topic we started on (pgs 2 and 3 of sniper's doom page in help wanted). I am gonna turn in now, night.

This is too good to not be done!!!

I love the idea! Could it be possible to license the character for other casual homebrew games?

guys, i bring you Jorge, the French Superplumber!

it's a first rough sketch. ;^D

i think we should go more into the konkey kong direction with gameplay. it's quite easy to implement. jorge could also shoot some stuff... "stuff".
maybe the big C'im-Pan-Z should throw turd balls! ;^D

what about this title: "Jorge the French Superplumber in: Attack of the C'im-Pan-Z"? :^D[/img]

Last edited by silent_code on Tue May 06, 2008 12:19 pm; edited 1 time in total

Brilliant! He needs an official logo, though!

maybe a rubber glove love fist? (somewhat a spoof of the "revolution fist" [emos use that, too these days... "raise your hand, if you want attencion"])

EDIT: like "the Furious French Fist of Justice (*and* Pleasure): Jorge the French Superplumber!" ... could it be any more silly?

ps: i don't know if i'll be able to do all the coding. i have a fairly good idea of what is needed and how to do it, but time is of the essence. ;^D that's why we need that design doc. :^)

Last edited by silent_code on Tue May 06, 2008 3:13 pm; edited 1 time in total

Yeah, what else should I include in that thing? I got a rough outline on the first page, but I am pretty sure I need a lot more. And you said we should go with a donkey kong-ish approach... could you elaborate? Do you mean like the arcade one, or like the gameboy color sidescroller? I think I see where you might be going with this though... awesome drawing btw =).

i mean more like the early arcade, where Mario was called "jump man". :^) it should be a multiscreen vertical jump and run.

Jorge should be Mario's kinky cousin. ;^D

... and in mere minutes i have come up with this:
behold, for the earth stands still when he arrives:
C'im-Pan-Z, evil emperor of the Chimpan Z'z and child eating troll monkey!

the leet guys should be harry potter like haxor wizzards throwing teh "1337", "rofl", "omg!" etc. words at you! much like kamek. only, wielding an msn passwort hacking usb stick and instead of potter's lightning bold mark, they have an L (now, what would *that* stand for?) or alternatively a "0x" or "lol" or "teh". :^)

... and i like the scissor guys, really great!

btw: this goes all into the DD.

we will have to go for low animation count. first step would be to have Jorge running around a room. then add some shooting / throwing stuff (if gameplay requires it). after that we'll have to build in ladders and platforms. then come the boss on the top, throwing stuff (he could even have a diarrhea spray attack or something! think "particles", lots (i typically simulate around 2k) of particles!) and after that the other enemies. in the end we would glue the stuff together with game screens.

sounds and music should also come in there somewhere. :^D my brother has a small recording studio, so i could record some sounds, if we get that far.

input should be done for r/l handed ppl.
left/right - move
up - jump / ladder up
down - ladder down
stylus - aim
trigger - shoot / throw

i guess fighting games, cool as they are, require too much animation. we should really go for something that could be done in like 1 - 3 months (remember, this is just an exercise!)

ATTENTION:

maybe we should look for a graphics artist that can turn the sketches into more cuddly characters (but still quite gay / evil)? then i could concentrate on coding. ;^)

can someone recommend an nds map editor? (not actually *running* on the nds.) so far i've used cearn's Mirach, but it seems he's discontinued it. :^C

EDIT:

i have an idea for a shooting device: a water gun (think "super soaker") sized Enema!
much like super mario sunshine... only filled with "love". ;?p
i'm going to revice jorge and make him blond. there's no blonde mario character (besides peach!), right? ;^D
i guess, he need a less "hardcore" look, too.

at the beginning of a level, he should "come out of the closet". ;^D
his ultimate goal should be to save the children of thw world from C'im-Pan-Z's evildoers!

i really like these:
- Pipes are for sissies, you flush yourself down toilets to find treasure underground.
- Pools of radioactive waste rather than pits

if we should decide to put in some super powers later on, i imagine we could make something like smw2 (or was it 3?) and give him different outfits for different powers. like those in the village people's YMCA. X^D

i've also made up another possible boss: he's got the body of Godzilla and the head of Al Gore (i don't care about politics and i'm european, so please don't interpret this in any way) - it's Gore-Zilla! ("It's Man-Bear-Pig! I told you it was real!") i guess it also needs a red cape. ;^)

EDIT, AGAIN: knocked up a quick and clean page. :^)

once we decide what the game will be like, i'll start coding. i'm ready when you are.

ps: dman, this post is LONG!

Another nice bit of art. And this will totally rock. Is there anything besides the design that I can do to help with this?

you could always program something. :^)
well, put the dd together (my previous post contains a lot of info) and then maybe try to find a good map editor.

besides: i've just added a C'im-Pan-Z test sprite to the page. :^)

EDIT: current Jorge WIP image is on the page. :^)
i think he looks less perverted now, but i'm still not quite "here". he looks too serious, imo. suggestions?

bwt: we could use these images for game screens etc, not only as concepts. ;^D

Last edited by silent_code on Tue May 06, 2008 8:53 pm; edited 1 time in total

Alright, I guess I will finish that doc and get looking. And I dunno if he sent you one, but Bean_xp sent me a pm and said he would be willing to help out =). Said he had tried making a smw clone once, and that he can help us out here. I told him we mostly need more ppl on graphics and programming (as you are presently doing both, lol.) If you have a dif idea where his help is needed, tell me =). Now, back to the design doc!

ok, this really is happening. although, the P***s on the chimpan z is a little too much. it kinda has to be child friendly. (kinda) i like jorges second sketch, looks great. we could do a whole series! one like smw, and one like street fighter. lol. i'll help with programing. we need a list of what needs to be programed.

edit: i'll do the maps. looking at it right now. i need some toilet ideas. i like the evil toilet idea.

if he could code, that would be nice.

well, feel free to post your ideas, Bean_xp! your help is welcome! :^D
share your experiences with us, so we get to know you (and therefore your skills) a little better.

i would concentrate on graphics (the first stage should have a paris theme!) and just help out with coding. being a reverse "technical artist" (a programmer, whose programmer art sucks less than average?) is a "person who changes partners *very* frequently"...

i was kind of going into a more adult comedy style. ;^)
anyway, kids don't play hb, they play romz! ;^p

i'm for the a bit rougher humor, because that's what got all of this started (a mokey throwing crap at you, the gay plumber with the gigantic enema...). taking away any of it will kind of take away the appeal. :^D
seriously, i have worse ideas than a cartoon "pickle". (nothing graphic! kids wouldn't even know what they are looking at! just like in the simpsons etc., where you understand so much more when you're older.) ;^D

so, who's got the ballozos to do what they want? (wow, how biased was that? it's just my humor! :^D ) and who's for more kid friendly content? :^)

and yeah, i'll make his "thing" a little less bold anyway. X^D

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=) sweet. I think we are moving from smw to classic arcade one with the c'impan Z guy at the top. u know, where you climb ladders? I am editing the design doc accordingly right now, adding and changing some stuff.

Lets take a vote... All in favor?

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Yeah, I just wanted to make sure it was ok to join the project first, I'd be interested in doing programming, but I'm also flexible - I can work with graphics, level design etc (except sound/music).

I guess once we have an idea of what needs to be done roles can be assigned, hope I can help!

Edit: 2 Posts since I started typing this (you guys move fast) - A Donkey Kong clone doesn't seem to be too much work (I guess?) Perhaps once that is done other 'levels' could be included. Maybe a game like "Mario Bros." could be included (The arcade game).

Edit2: But yeah, DK game sounds good.

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aye!

edit: ok, fine. i'm drawing jorge a sprite now. he really likes soda. oh yeah, i only have a mouse to draw with. so, this won't be great. i wonder how sniper's feeling?

All right, sounds like a plan. I have edited the design doc a bit, added in a few things I heard and whatnot. And if you guys want I am game for expanding this when we finish the basics =).

%%Jorge the French Superplumber%%

Enemies
? Chimpan-Z?s: First level they walk towards you. Second roll barrels. Third throw poo. Fourth roll barrel, throw poo, and charge at you if they miss.
? The 1337s: Now changed to silent?s sweet idea: These guys are going to be Harry Potter-ish haxor wizards with usb wands and spells that shoot net slang at you (rofl, pwned, noob, 1337, etc.)
? Scissor runners: crazy little men that charge at you with wildly snipping scissors. If they miss you they trip and land on the scissors.
? Demon toilets: Fake toilets that chase you if you come close enough.
? Any death involves plenty of blood and the like, courtesy of silent?s system.

Level Design
? *Arcade style, c?impan Z throws stuff down at you
? Pools of radioactive waste rather than pits, if you fall in you die (maybe fly out all malformed and stuff, then walk off screen in a cut scene?)
? Boss on the last level of each world. Lvl 1 will have a crazy forum troll. He shoots spam balls at you and rains flam from the sky every once and a while.
? Occasional toilet midway up the level (1 or 2 each world) with powerups or a new weapon in it. (haxor wand, 1 use ROFL BOMB, enema, lol, spam ball shooter, and anything else you guys can think of)

Items
? First thing you find is your plunger. It is down a toilet in the first level.
? Poo launcher?
? Maybe a plumbers snake as a whip
? Another early weapon could be the enema, rather than the plunger?lol
? You can find lives throughout levels occasionally.
? 3rd level there is a toilet with a spam ball technique in it. (should it shoot straight or bounce like classic fireballs?)
? You can change weapons in the start menu, just text (funnier that way with our totally conventional weapon setup)

You
? You are Mario?s brother; Jorge the Superplumber.
? You are on a quest to rescue your mail children of the world from the evil reign of the chimpan-Z overlord
? Pipes are for sissies, you flush yourself down toilets to find treasure underground.

The Team
? We have 3 ppl on the programming so we will need to split it up.
o Level design
o Sprites
o Sound (is this an ok setup for you guys, or is there a better way to do it?)
? We need someone specifically for graphics and art
? I got the design covered mostly, but help is welcome
? Anything I haven?t thought of? any help or suggestions are welcome!

Should I try and whip up an outline of the first level in paint?

@nsm: rofl, I wonder... his whole fanbase just started its own project.

@ nsm333: wow, wow, don't go too fast!

this should be an exercise on how to do things *right*, not fast!
it is very important to *first* design and then create. therefore i call out to first gather ideas and sketches, then talk about limitations, alter the design and when we're done designing, only then should we go create.

when we're done thinking, we will need some proof of concept tech demo with placeholder graphics to prototype the gameplay.

anything done earlier may end up being wasted time. we all know where that leads to. ;^)

so, first let's decide what style, conctent, gameplay, characters etc. we want!
then we go on and devide tasks more or less evenly across the team members. (i guess we have a team here, right?)

Yeah, I just wanted to re-post what I have so far. I am just going to edit my previous posts of it as it gets updated from now on rather than double posting something that big, lol. so, what else do I need?

@bean: true, true. I figure we could spice it up a *little* though. maybe horizontal rather than tilted bars, with enemies on them. When you get near the top (I think we are using both screens, right?) then he could start rolling things. once you get on his level he starts shooting projectiles (explosive diahrreah? lol) at you.

@nsm: like on the new super mario bros game? yeah

Last edited by Alphanoob on Tue May 06, 2008 9:37 pm; edited 2 times in total

I think the idea needs to be simplified a little personally, I mean we have lots of ideas for weapons, enemies etc, but I think it would be more important to simplify the idea as I don't see how most of these would fit into a DK style of game (Remember their were only barrels in DK - The basics first, no need to overcomplicate things)

@silent_code: just drawing! sheesh. i was just messing with an idea for jorge. and, this is is a team.
@alphanoob: looks good.
@bean: is it like the old dk games? i thought we were doing smw type thing.

ok, let's start with music. any ideas? oh, maybe we should move this. development!

@alphanoob: yes, we need to use two screens. ever played mini-mario?

nsm333 wrote:

@bean: is it like the old dk games? i thought we were doing smw type thing.

ok, let's start with music. any ideas? oh, maybe we should move this. development!

Yeah, I thought that was the new idea to have Chimpan-Z at the top (as in DK).

As for music I think we need a more general style first, but I don't know if we have any musicians on board. I think chiptunes, parodies of other games and the like should fit the (tongue-in-cheek) style of the game though.

yah, sounds good. hey, guys, snipers back! not for long, though. ok, so, the chimp'z are at the top. here, i'm making a first level sketch. (just for me, so i can get an idea of what it will look like.)

@alphanoob: just so. it could be off the eiffel toilet! and, first level sketch sounds good.

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so, what do you guys think about half horizontal and half tilted bars on the way up?

sounds good. you mean like his?
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i also think we need to shift towards a simpler game.

i was imagining this (pic is coming, too):

like in the oldschool DK, you need to climb ladders and dodge "things".
but rather than simply copying a great original, we'll extend it a bit.

instead of barrels there will be some nasty stuff thrown by the baddy on top. additionally there will be some enemies places throughout the level.

but jorge should be able to strike back! that's where the plunge / enema come into play. he can throw plunges and the enema can flush enemies with a nice clean water jet. at least i believe it's water. ;^D
water needs to be recharged, plunges are also limited.
then there's still the melee attack of neck breaking by jumping on someone's head. ;^D

we first need to implement the "neck breaker", the other attacks have to remain optional for now (or else this will be going nowhere, i know it!)

well, jorge will jump, dodge and climb his way up and every time he'll reach the top, the boss will leave the child he was about to eat behind and move one level up (where there's another child). this is when the scrolling happens, otherwise the scene is static.

the lower screen would be the game screen, the upper would show the next level. this is because, if we want to include some type of stylus action, we have to restrict ourselves to the bottom screen.

on the last platform (screen) there will be a boss battle, where jorge directly faces the boss. i imagine a crap throwing and spraying monkey... then an enema... what will be the monkeys weak point? how will jorge defeat it? who knows? (it happens so, that i have an idea...)

game layout image available on project page!

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Thats also what I was thinking, I don't think overcomplicating things helps much (in terms of gameplay).

@Silent_Code: Nice Demo

like:

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c'imp on top, the ones with \ or / are tilted to allow rolling, the others are all totally horiz.

EDIT: yeah, i figured we could make it like classic, but maybe add one more element to keep it interesting? Or we could make multiple modes, one for classic play and one with additions...

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bean_xp wrote:

@Silent_Code: Nice Demo

thanks. :^)

@alphanoob: oh, good idea.
@all: yes, simple. just monkeys, poo, and a plumber!

We should make it shoot radioactive waste from those pools. hold down and b to charge it. I think we should use a button rather than the d-pad to jump too, btw. They had a separate jump in the arcade version, and I think it will make it easier to jump while moving sideways. Up can be ladders tho. Just my opinion.

hmmm....up sounds nice to me. but a would work too. do you mean jorge can shoot radiactive waste?

Alphanoob wrote:

We should make it shoot radioactive waste from those pools. hold down and b to charge it. I think we should use a button rather than the d-pad to jump too, btw. They had a separate jump in the arcade version, and I think it will make it easier to jump while moving sideways. Up can be ladders tho. Just my opinion.

I would prefer that method of jumping too. I don't really see where radioactive waste comes into the design though (since it's in pools and we are jumping up the tower)

dunno. He is a superplumber. Whatever you guys want, I am totally open for changing.

Edit: nvm the waste if we don't want it... but we could use that blue box at the bottom of the lvl to re-fuel it. I recall that the arcade one had a box that set barrels on fire at the bottom.

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@bean: same thing i was thinking. it could be at the bottom, though.

edit: ok, be back later.

this whole thread reminds me of the classic atari game. (from this page of old atari games)

rofl, u have got to be joking. That is funny as heck.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

that one was great. personaly, i liked "It's F***ing Checkers!" and "Old Timey Guy With a Stick"

"aliens vs. ghost" can it be any more generic than that? X^D

lol. yes.

ah, the atari. A classic among classics. I have never personally played one, but I can't think of a more pioneering game system, lol.

i have played one. i prefer my snes, though. ;^D

i'm closing down for today. we better get some decisions made tomorrow. just a reminder: all my suggestions were just that, suggestions. :^D

my final question of the day: has anyone of you any experience in making a team based game project? (online or offline, doesn't matter)
i have been in some. most failed and the only one i'm still actively working on, is not finished, yet. we are a very small team and dev is going slowly but steadily.

sleep well, where ever you are, creatures of the night. ;^D

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snes was also a great system. Recently I found this new thing with an awesome homebrew community and everything tho, they call it the DS... pretty amazing. Has 2 screens, and if learn to code (or just have enough to contribute to a clone) you can sometimes get your favorite games ported to it for handheld fun. You should check it out, lol.

EDIT: night silent!

@silent_code: nope, never worked on a team project. ever. lol. your suggestions were good ones, though. it's not night here!
@alphanoob: lol. never heard of that one. must be pretty old.
not dark? at 11?

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not too dark yet here, lol. I may stick around a while more...

lol, I just chose a random time zone... I don't even know what gmt time is...

-oops, double posted

-I am gonna head for a while, be back in an hour or so. Cya then!

neither do i. i'm leaving too. leet time!
1 4m ub3r c0d3r! 1 c4n run c1rcl3s 4r0und j0rg3 t3h plumb3r!

oh no u just di'int! nobody disses Jorge... its on now nsm, lol. I shall bring the wrath of Jorge the French Superplumber down upon thine head! Just as soon as we get this project done...

one neat gameplay idea: what if the boss gets stronger the longer it takes you to complete a level? he's standing on the top eating stuff and pooping and when you get to the top and disrupt him, he stops building up energy and leaves for the next screen.
therefore, when you finally get to the last screen, the boss arena, the amount of his health depends on how fast you were. there would be a certain minimal amount of health (or maybe strength?) that he'd have anyway, to be somewhat chellenging.

well, that "health rate" would also accumulate throughout the game. if you're not fast enough, the bosses get stronger and stronger, so HURRY, Jorge!!!! :^D

there should also be some gameplay mechanic that evens this out a bit, so the effect wouldn't get too extreme. good players will always be faster and we wouldn't want to annoy new players.

also, if we drop stylus input, we can have button jumping. we have to think about weapons. are they really needed? i mean, the ideas we had so far are cool, but think about it for a moment. to what extend would it make sense to have weapons? "jump man" had a hammer, iirc.

the enema could be reused as a jump booster do jump twice as high, though. again, think super mario sunshine, only a bit kinky. :^D

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feature request: fully eatable gingerbread houses.

hahahaha, kusma. but, how whould they fit in? X^D
maybe as a "power up area" (like the little houses with minigames in yoshi's island) that somehow resembles a Cottage? could refill some health. (... gta ... you know what i mean, don't you?) i can clearly see use of a rumble pack while Jorge is being "healed" inside such a house... (or should i say his energy is being - oh, that is soooo nasty - refilled?)
not eatable, though.[/b]

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what if the boss gets stronger the longer it takes you to complete a level?

Then you'll find your game will be incredibly difficult for new players, which will probably turn them off. It should be the other way around.

silent_code wrote:

when you finally get to the last screen, the boss arena, the amount of his health depends on how fast you were. there would be a certain minimal amount of health (or maybe strength?) that he'd have anyway, to be somewhat chellenging.

I like this idea, however I think it would be better to reward players for being fast, rather than punish players for being slow - though it could be made quite funny

silent_code wrote:

also, if we drop stylus input, we can have button jumping. we have to think about weapons. are they really needed? i mean, the ideas we had so far are cool, but think about it for a moment. to what extend would it make sense to have weapons?

I would also prefer button input (I think stylus input is too slow/clumsy for an arcade style game and/or a platformer.

kusma wrote:

feature request: fully eatable gingerbread houses.

I'm sure we can work it in somewhere.

sonny_jim wrote:

Then you'll find your game will be incredibly difficult for new players, which will probably turn them off.

This is true, maybe if you had a difficulty setting the scheme would be ok (I don't really like settings though)

In terms of the base gameplay, if we are going to stick with a DK style game then I think we should divide it into levels. Something like, you climb the first stage then the chimp jumps up to the top of a new stage, so then you have to climb this new level. Then there could be a boss fight at the end of the stages and you could use the time idea so that the player is rewarded with more powerups or lives the faster the levels were completed (or in-between each level). Or for an alternative idea the screen could advance at a constant rate and it's lose a life or game over if the player falls off the bottom of the stage.

I don't personally the player needs weapons (if we stay with the platform game format) as they shouldn't really be needed. Infact I don't know if Jorge even needs to attack at all, bosses could be defeated like the switch for the drawbridge in the original "Super Mario Bros.".

Maybe it's important that a length of the game is decided before decisions are made for the style of levels?

Also (@AN) GMT is the central timezone (Grenwich mean time) - it also happens to be the timezone I'm in!

@bean: everytime i write you name, i think of an englishman. chery-o, old bean! but, seriously,button input=good, punishing players=bad. levels sound good to. something gay-plumber themed.
@all: gingerbread houses would be cool. lol. sick joke, man. enema as a rocket booster sounds funny. bean_xp's right, we need to have an idea of how long the game will be. maybe 10-15 levels? boss every 5 levels? it has to be short-ish, or it will get boring. also, weapons are definently not needed. we could have 3 styles of play in one game, maybe. dk, street fighter, and the screen moving up.

Yeah I think thats the kind of length we should aim for, and I was also thinking of different style for each 'world' maybe then a number of acts in those worlds. I think we already want to do DK, but for a street fighter style, I think that could be a little complicated, perhaps something more like "Streets of Rage", "Golden Axe" etc. However we should probably figure out one style before coming up with other types of levels we could do.

And yes I am an englishman! But I'm not that old and I don't talk like that (cheery-o) :)

lol, you're right. one style first. ok, so length is good? everyone else? lol. i just noticed it says uk on your profile. lol.

bean_xp wrote:

Something like, you climb the first stage then the chimp jumps up to the top of a new stage, so then you have to climb this new level. Then there could be a boss fight at the end of the stages

that's exactly what i am talking about! each stage having several levels (screens). :^)

i'm also for dropping weapons. if we went on making other stages with different gameplay, then we could bring it back, but seriously, we first need to make that DK stage. ;^)

and yes, a SF style game would require waaay too much animation. i don't think fighting fits the gay plumber theme, but we could have something like a maze type of world, like a dungeon... in the sewers (he flushed himself) ;^)

well, i have also thought about the reverse mechanism. we should put this off for a while, as that is a rather sensible gamplay mechanic. when we have a tech demo, we can make playtest to make further decisions.

length wise i think 5 screens of bottom up DK jump'n'run action are fine. :^) think paris, think eifel tower... :^)

Ok, sounds good. drop the weapons and stick with some classic DK climbing action it is. I never did beat that game... (I know someone who owns the actual arcade one, it is hard!!!) Maybe for that time = boss health thing we could make it so that you can toggle it on or off depending on ur skill level. This would allow a challenge for better players and keep it manageable for new players. When you said tower I couldn't help but imagine a staircase going round it and Jorge running up it in a fusion frenzy like fashion (anyone?) jumping over monkey poo, lol. Sounds like we have an outline set!

As a french myself, I should point out that "Jorge" is a name that doesn't sound french at all.

Maybe you should consider one of those which are more "frenchy' :

- Marcel
- Marc
- J?r?me
- Fernand
- Michel
- Patrice
- Maurice
- G?rard
- Ferdinand
- Ga?tan

And if you want to make it look like a real french plumber, he should be badly shaved with a pencil on his ear and a cigarette on his mouth. ;)

The power ups could be some bottle of red wine.

The plumber could grab a baguette (french bread) to beat his enemies up (like the hammer used by Mario in the Donkey Kong arcade game).

Lol, thanks for the suggestions. I dunno bout the other guys, but I kinda liked having Jorge for the name. Mostly because it contradicts even further that he would be Mario's cousin (dunno if I established that on this thread...). Mario is Italian, and Jorge is his French cousin with a Spanish name, thus, I cannot be called racially biased in any way (one of my friends suggested making him black to make it even more confusing....), lol. The wine power ups sound good tho, anyone else got an opinion on this stuf?

@ Metaluna: hahahaha, i was aware of that ;^D
but i guess this game will be all about bad humor and some prejudices won't hurt it. ;^D

Jorge (probably pronounced more like George) reminds me more of the name J?rg. ;^D

wine sounds cool, btw.
about the tower stage: it should be demolished (and therefore more enteraining and chellenging) by mr poopthrowermonkey! :^D

cousin is cool. black, now that is interesting. black, blond, buddhist, what else is with b? bi sexual instead of homosexual? he needs to be jewish and have one catholic and one mormon parent, too! and his heterosexual boyfriend is muslem! now, does that make sense? chubaka on endor - does that make sense? no! ;^D

seriously, do we want to make him black... or maybe make him (totally random) a blond chinese downsyndrome emancipated french superblumber?

oh boy, i need bed, lot's of bed!

lol. that would be funny. he really couldn't be french, or mario's cousin. ok, tower getting demolished sounds good, and funny. so, we've got a basic outline:

1: can turn on or off "time-based health"
2: some power-ups: wine, enema(?), bread!
3: towers? huh?
4: levels have 5(maybe) stages, then a boss. maybe 3-5 levels?
5: 2 screens, scrolling.
6: keep name jorge! or maybe Jorg.
7: no weapons, maybe?

ok, how about now? basic level plan, anyone? (sketch) as i said, i have no scanner, and my mouse is dead.

poor mouse of yours!
good thing there's a keyboard mouse in windows! ;?D

about the scrolling: i think it shouldn't be scrolling constantly, only on screen / level transitions. (we should get our terminology right, so we all know what we are talking about)

everything else: ok :^)

let's keep it Jorge :^D

yeah, and just for u guys to know "Jorge" is pronounced "Horhay", thus my saying he was spanish... maybe he could be blackanese? lol. I think we have enough to begin on the first level. Dude... I just got an idea. We should use my stick person tile (pretty much only silent will get this one) for the kid he has to save at the top! jk, lol... unless u want it there =).

lol, AN, just lol!
ok, spanish Jorge it should be. and blackanese kicks ass! :^D
stick person will do fine as a placeholer. :^)

nsm333 wrote:

1: can turn on or off "time-based health"
2: some power-ups: wine, enema(?), bread!
3: towers? huh?
4: levels have 5(maybe) stages, then a boss. maybe 3-5 levels?
5: 2 screens, scrolling.
6: keep name jorge! or maybe Jorg.
7: no weapons, maybe?

ok, how about now? basic level plan, anyone? (sketch) as i said, i have no scanner, and my mouse is dead.

I agree we need a basic level plan before we can think about anything, I think it should be something like classic DK, spread across both screens (fixed screens, only scrolling for transistions as silent_code said), I don't think there should be any weapons, perhaps if more is needed then a puzzle element could be added (switches to move platforms or something).

I don't know about the name/race of the player but I don't suppose it matters too much.

As for sketches we need something to show the basic elements of the level before any design document of sorts can be written up.

i won't be able to make any "art" today. (i've got to program a bit, too!) so, maybe someone else could sketch a few elements?

we also need to decide on a set of actions that the player / enemies can make. that also includes what animations are needed.

do we want paralax maps? how many and where should they be depth wise?

btw: i also happen to be a musician... (man, do i feel like a poser), but i haven't done any music for games, yet. i don't think i would do music, but i could make sound effects. ha ha, i just remembered i have done a sound that is quite simmilar to Mario's jump sound (i made it from scratch, no samples used! [it's not very hard to make *that* sort of sound]) :^D

Alright, I guess I will go and make a basic level outline for the first level in paint (I think I have a scanner, just its on a printer and I don't know how to use it, lol). I was thinking that we could do horizontal for the bottom screen, and then the more traditional slanted bars for the top one, allowing for some jump-stomping fun but still keeping a classic feel to it. So, Jorge the French (blackanese/french?) Superplumber that has a Spanish name and is Mario's cousin... some sort of paradox. Maybe he went back in time to achieve this?

EDIT: ok, so how do I get my pic somewhere where u guys can see it?

upload it to some photo/image/file sharing service, then i'll integrate it into the page. :^)

EDIT:
you're welcome. :?)

as i don't use such services myself, i can't tell you much. photobucket comes to mind, though. or rapidshare. or whatever.

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any suggestions on sites? thx for the pm earlier btw =).

-Ok, I will pop up a new window and post it, then post it here. brb =).

there =)
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or

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk126/alphanoob/level1.jpg

ok, that looks good. chimp'z throw barrels, right? and poo. the poo can fall from the top.

edit: alphanoob, you just go to "file" and "from scanner or camera" (in paint) with the picture in the scanner.

hmm, he can throw ponies!

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ty for the tip =). o, and I am not sure what ours is gonna throw... barrels seem too... normal. I thought silent had an idea, but I can't remember.

@nsm: yes, ponies! lol.

poop balls (much like horse "apples", as the germans call them). ejected with a little poop "spray". ;^p
btw: it wasn't my idea. ;^)

Can any ideas be gleaned from the YouTube Poop scene?
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no real poop involved! (i'm not into that stuff at all...)
i really don't know what you mean, tepples. ?
i like mr. hankey, though! hoooowdy hoooo! ;^D

@tepples: wha? lol.
@silent: ok, poop spray? no. poop balls are fine. like dung beetles.

silent_code wrote:

no real poop involved! (i'm not into that stuff at all...)
i really don't know what you mean, tepples. ?

YouTube Poop
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lol. tepples, that is a good idea. but, this game isn't random. well, it is. kinda.

I do, dunno bout the other 2 guys... probs. Where are we at in the development? I think we still need to clear up what we are doin. I am good with what we have going right now. Maybe we should just make the outline for the first level and make it so you can go up it, then build once we see that?

i have a concept design of Jorge.

Jorge JPEG

Note the beret, the casual grace of the cigarette, and the stylish wisp thin mustache. :P

what do you think
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lord_hardware wrote:

i have a concept design of Jorge.

Jorge JPEG

Note the beret, the casual grace of the cigarette, and the stylish wisp thin mustache. :P

what do you think

LOL. but you could have mirrored the L to become a J, that were much much awesomer! ;^)
but the brown rules! you totally get the message! ;^)

oh s**t sorry :P it was almost 4... i thought the J looked strange but i couldnt understand why :P it was around the wrong way lol
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lol. that looks funny, but wasn't he wearing pink the first time? is that just luigi edited? it looks good. also will this game be flat or 3d?

i think we initially decided on 2d, didn't we?
we still don't know who's still *serially* interested in helping out and willing to "donnate" some time and work.
if it's just two, there is a chance we can make it, if it's just one, it won't happen.

as i see it, AN (maps / design) and me (gfx / snd / code) are willing to work on this. who else and under which conditions?
this is the step where most projects fail miserably, so we need to get this straight. i'm serial! ;^) we need to organize.

making content and sketches is easy and fun, building up a team and making a game isn't. so, who's with us?

please post the following "about me" information here:
- what have you already experience with?
- what would you like to help with?
- what would you like to learn with this project?
- maybe some other info. (like age and education, location, if not already available via your profile, etc.)

i'm starting:

- obviously, i have some experience with programming, graphics and i have my brother's little recording studio at hand to make sound effects. i haven't made a game or mod, yet, because my interest are more into technology programming and tools. that's what i do most of the time. although i work in the 3rd dimension most of the time, i have also some background in 2d.

- i would like to help with sounds, and graphics or coding. i can donnate some lines of code, no matter what position i get in the end.

- i'd finally like to make a little game demo for the nds that doesn't inviolve shooting innocent zombies' heads off (the background in 2d i mentioned earlier.) ;^D
i'd also like to make an experience of a team effort succeeding. even if the result is just a cheesy, little (but remotely fun to play) demo. i'd also like to utilize some hw features i haven't done much with in the past (most of the backgrounds stuff.)

- i'm mid 20, currently studying computer science. i've been programming for >> 5 years in different languages (compiled and interpreted.) i'm also interested in various art forms and i'm a rather average musician. the timezone i'm in is GTM+1.

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well, as i've said, i'll help. anything, really. i'm pretty bad at graphics, but i can help with maps, and whatever coding there is. i'm "serial" too.

ok, nsm333. but up some brief info, please!

btw: look at the page, i have put up another version of Jorge! (i was fooling around with their web editor. it's not serial!) ;^D

Nice new pic silent! lol. Did you check out that design for the platform postitions that I posted? Enemies could patrol the horiz ones, and stuff could roll down the other ones.

yupp, put it on the page, too.
i guess, i'll give it a shot and see, with what i come up. :^)

btw: how about the game having different chapters (or "scenes") like viewtiful joe? each chapter would then have a name and all. i know this has benn discussed earlier, but i mean it more presentation wise.
that way we could have such awesome titles like "... in: Attack of the evil childeating (and molesting) Troll Monkey C'Imp-An-Z" ;^D

Oh, we could *so* have fun with that. I like it! btw, ur demo is *sweet*! I have played it so many times now =). I feel sorry for the zombies, but it is too fun to stop!

Thats a nice idea, are different 'scenes' going to be different styles of games like discussed or just more of the same styles?

I think we should go with the different gameplay styles like we discussed. So then we'd need to figure out a style or theme for each scene. I think we already have the style of the first theme with the C'Imp-An-Z idea. So we should probably continue the idea of video game parodies (C'Imp-An-Z is like DK).

For ideas for other themes, we already said platformer and a scrolling shooter. But what about something different like "duck hunt" or "excitebike" as styles of games just to mix it up a little?

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@ AN:
<lol>
thanks! :?D

i actually updated it a bit and i'm implementing new stuff, mostly particle system related. :^D
it's sort of fun to try not to get bitten even one time. btw, do you remember what your highscore was?

@ bean_xp: yes, make more gameplay styles. just like a little game demo / mini game compilation with some common elements (character, style, plot etc.)
but first we need to get the first edisode done. then we could think about the next one, maybe even post a vote on the forum to ask the folks which idea for an episode they would like to see made next?

duck hunt sounds nice. :^) maybe some space invaders or pac man, too?

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Sure, so we still need a plot for first episode, or a basis for one so we can expand it in other episodes. Maybe we need to figure out some enemies and different elements to fill each level before we can design the actual layout of the stages, otherwise the game will be Donkey Kong with new level layouts (which isn't necessarily a bad thing).

Edit: I was thinking duckhunt with your particle engine might be nice :D

"plot" (i'm totally making this up in realtime, guys):

Jorge is the usual friendly neighbourhood spi... super plumber.
one day he goes to the new circus that came to town (paris!), with his albino indian daughter (you might think "OMG, racewars!" - i see it that way: not all heros are caucasion, not all baddies are colored in the *real* world. sadly that is how most games depict the world. there's too little truely multi cultural games out there.)
everything is fine, until the main attraction is exhibited: the mighty evil Troll Monkey from Scat Island: C'Im-Pan-Z! (... now where did i steal that from?)

he breaks loose and takes some children with them, naturally Jorge's daughter is one of them. he starts to chase CPZ immediately and ends up at the first stage: the Eiffel Tower.

"but why did CPZ break loose in the first place? come... i mean "tune" in and find out on the next, thrill packed episode of: [generic cereal name goes here]"

;^D

ps: he's got a daughter, does it make sense? well, he's not her father, but her mother after a sex change and the daughter still calles him "mommy"... that's sick, dude! X^D

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@bean: oooh, that would be fun... (I am presently imagining a duck exploding with the same kind of effect as the zombies)

I think if we do duck hunt we need to change *something* about it tho, because if we use the touch screen to just click the duck to kill it, it would be too easy. I was thinking maybe show ducks, scenery, and aimer on top, and just scenery and aimer on the bottom. This would make it a little more challenging, and we could use L or R to shoot.

@silent: I don't remember what my high score was (probably not that amazing), but I will record the next one =). I like how you can change your color with the select button, btw =).

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maybe C'Im-Pan-Z will "somehow" survive the first encounter at the top of the eiffel tower...

so, he could throw some... "stuff" at the player, who would use his mighty *enema* to fight off the "stuff"... you know. no killing of innocent ducks for the fun of it. ;^)
stuff could also inclode ninjas jumping at you, though.

"where do the ninjas come from? how could C'Im-Pan-Z have survived falling off the eiffel tower? who is responsible for the kid-kidnapping (get it?) and most of all, what happens next? see it all on the next exciting episode of... god, i hate myself for that crap speaker job of mine. i quit! do you hear me? I QUIT!!!!"

does anyone else find that remotely funny? i know i have a very broad kind of humor that includes a lot of stuff others don't find funny at all. ;^p <lol>

Lol, I can tell this game will be awesome when it is all done. We should get that anouncer from Phantasy Star Universe (anyone? most ppl I meet hate the game, but I find it fun. They try to make it seem like a tv show after you beat levels though, it is hilarious. Its all "next time, on phantasy star universe:") wow, that was a long parenthese statement. Good idea tho, save the ducks ppl!

and that was funny =)

yes, exactly what i had in mind. :^)
i don't know PSU, but your description seems to be very compatible with my idea. :^D
as i said, viewtiful joe had something simmilar, too, but it was all serial (for those who don't know: it means serious. it's a joke from SouthPark, where they make fun of Al Gore [remember my Gore-Zilla idea? ;^D ] for mixing up cereal and serial) and had no jokes. ;^)

dude... we should have a megaman style last level to our game. We could come up with more bosses like Gore-Zilla, and then have you fight them all in a row in quick succession to get to the last boss (c'imp an Z v2?). It would go along with our mass parody theme =). Any feedback on this idea?

Who said anything about innocent ducks :P? I was thinking another enemy could be a big badass duck, but yeah mainly just the idea for gameplay. The TV show idea is good we should use it. I'm not sure about re-using the same bosses though (I thought we could do the opposite to Mario, instead of the same boss keeps coming back and getting mario into trouble, the bosses get defeated but jorge gets himself into trouble.

I think your control idea for shooting "ducks" could work, but what about using the touch screen like a catapult or slingshot that would be much more challenging.

To make things more backwards in the game, we could make the levels extremely difficult and the bosses so easy that they defeat themselves! For example we could make the DK stage a very complex assault course of missiles, cannons, flames and rolling poop boulders (all at the same time).

the catapult is good, but I think the bosses might be better left hard to defeat. With the touch aim I was just thinking about simplicity. All it would really be is one point input and a direct shot to that point. That would make it easier to code =). Whatever you guys want tho =).

- megaman ( / metroid) = fantastic! he should get a suit, too! but rather a pink leather gimp suit! X^D

- C'Im-Pan-Z v2 = Metal C'Im-pan-Z (think of Metroid's Ridley <lol> that's why he survives the crash, but he'd be essencially a different boss. much like the Terminator!)

- catapult input idea = fantastic!

and guys... i made another sketch... brb.

So, we got another layer of our game layout, sweet! I guess we should (as has been said many times) start with just the first level. We could then build up from there =).

Another link so we don't have to jump back pages every time we wanna check it out =).

project page

crowd, i present you hereby: The 1337kingF (F is hex for 15)!

his automagic 1TB-USB3.0 stick can paralyze you with it's flashy LED (much like MIB - depicted with hacker language words flying at you) and the LED's light is so intense, that it can also form a light sabre (YouTube StarWars Guy? <lol>)!

that dude sure knows how to write haxor scripts!
his geek-shirt says H3^, which translates to hexor... with an 'e'... this species is much more 1337 than haxors, because they are much more "hexadecimal", thus much more low level. (get it?)

he should be one of the later bosses. mut still a "mario"nette to the final boss... (what would be the last boss? a giant, *somehow* "familiarly" looking puppet maybe? <hint, hint!>)

EDIT: the 1337king boss fight could be turn based, much like in FF. :^D
@ AN (below): good idea! :^)

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lol, awesome! Is this guy gonna be king of the 1337s? I see the roots of another new level forming... maybe a smw style one with a computer-ish background... you have to save kids from a 1337 supercomputer base or somethin...

-rabid mouse = goomba-ish
-1337s = kammy koopa-ish

ok, i've put the link to the page into my signature.

i'd like to remind you guys of the little "about me" info post. :^)
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lol. sorry, silent, i just got back. i was out for a while. ok, here:

already have experience with: c++ coding, some sound, html, 2d games, some small demos on the ds

i would like to help with: coding, sound, maps, but i can't do graphics. no mouse, and no scanner.

i would like to learn: making (helping with) a full game.
yah, silent, that demo was funny! could you pm me with a basic idea of the engine? no code, just pseudo-code.

@nsm333: you're welcome. :^) and thanks for the info.

what engine do you mean? for jorge?
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no, for the zombie thing. not the code, just an idea of what you do. just curious :)

uh, it's not much. besides the particle system, there really is no "engine". it's just my nds test "application". it's all just ridin' the nds... raw. ;^p
i don't even sort the sprites, so there are gfx glitches on hw. ;^)
so, what part are you interested in? the particle system?
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yup. never seen one that good.

hehe, thanks. :^)

basically you just have your regular particle system (with position, velocity, gravity, "termination condition" etc.) using fixed point math. you draw the particles to a bg. the interface is just three little class member functions: initialize (for more complex systems, that need it) and update (does all the updating and drawing) and cast, that reinitializes a particle and starts it.
that's it, no big deal. :^)

the class looks very much like this:

Code:

class CParticle
{
protected:
bool m_alive;
int32 m_pos_x, m_pos_y, m_vel_x, m_vel_y;
int32 m_limit; // termination condition... like "if you hit the pos_y value Y (which is in m_limit), stop"
uint8 m_color;

public:
CParticle(void);
virtual ~CParticle(void);

void cast(int32 pos_x, int32 pos_y, int32 vel_x, int32 vel_y, int32 limit, uint8 color);

virtual void init(void) = 0;
virtual void update(void) = 0;
};

that's the base class. specific systems are derived from this.

is that the kind of info you wanted? i'm not sure.
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yup. kinda. just thinking that it worked much better than anything lese i've seen. but, wait! isn't the ds slow at fixed point?

no, it's slow at floating point! ;^)
fixed point is just integers! but you interpret them a little differently.
e.g. you can define that "1 := 16"
so an int value of 1 would be reffered to as a 1/16th! :^)
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I just had 2 more ideas for *possible* world themes.

1. TETRIS!! Don't see how it works with Jorge? Well, For the final boss maybe he could throw tetris pieces down on you and then you get trapped, which forces you to control them with ur superplumber mind pwrs and form a wall to free yourself. Either that or there is a control panel. You could then reach the top, and C'imp-an-Z goes up to the next floor, at which point you fight enemies to get there and dodge things as usual.

2. Hardcore text based Jorge rpg. No sprites or anything. This was mostly inspired by a video I saw on homestarrunner.com many many years ago, about what it would be like if stronbad were in a video game. My favorite command was: "get ye flask", becuase it would tell you the flask was stuck, but if you type it in enough you take it anyways and the roof falls on you. but yea, text based fun! =)

EDIT: wow, I have way too much time on my hands.

tetris sounds ok, although you're right: we would need to check how that fits.

but i don't know, if a text based rpg would be enjoyable. don't get me wrong, i like that genre, but most people don't. :^(
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I will help with this...

is the plan to mod an old mario (maybe original 8-bit?) and change around sprites and level design making it a bit more french?

(different enemies and such)

then we can optimize it for NDS
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I think the idea is that we are going to make a small bundle of games (each a couple levels long) that are parodies of a bunch of old games, with Jorge at the center of each. The first will be the original DK game, with you climbing ladders to get to the top. Then I believe we *may* expand to supermario world, duck hunt, and tetris.

i have the impression, that we want to make everything from scratch. no compyrighted data should be used in it.
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Yeah, you're right, that would be the most wise choice. So now we are thinking of creating 'chapters' ideally what length would each chapter be, as in how many levels? Is the game engine going to require some kind of level loading system, or should things be more hardcoded?

Do we have any more ideas for C'Imp-An-Z's background/story? So that we can figure what kindof setup he would have on the eifel tower (to base obstacle designs on the background)? If I get time I might try creating some concept graphics (no promises though).

I was thinking like 3 levels or so each, about the length of one world in the old super mario game for the gameboy pocket (I have been using nintendo stuff way too long, lol)

-I will post some more design stuff later

So I had an idea for the levels of the first episode to be split up like so (since we decided that the stage was on the eiffel tower):
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My idea was we could use something like that with a 'you are here' sign between levels or something (to give the player an idea of progress).

[If that could be added to the WIP page - if it's any good of course - as it's hosted on a friends site, I can't be sure it'll be up for long]

@silent: oh, floating point. i knew it started with an s.
@all: no copyrighted material! tetris sounds cool, and we could work in the text. like, have the screen black, and have the text scrolling down. ok, anyone want to fill in this?
3-4 levels
different theme for each
chimpan'z the enemy
(i think loading the levels would be cool. that way other people could add more levels.)
the chimpan'z could have kidnapped mario. and jorge has been trying to get it on with him, so he goes to save mario. (jorge is gay, right?)

so, maybe we could each do a level, based around the same system? then it would be more like 4-5 levels, and we could prove that a level loading thing could work.

the game engine could go like this:
load level(in consecutive order. so, if you beat level 1, you go to level 2.)
level code:
draw characters and map(map could be static, characters can move)
check if chimp'z throw, jorge moves, enemies move, ect
check if you have won the level(maybe an end point?)
repeat as needed.[/code]
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That sounds pretty good, 'cept for one thing... Jorge is trying to save the children of the world, not his cousin. He is gay, but doesn't do that sort of thing, as it would be *way* too awkward to get his game hero job said and done.

-Speaking of saving the children... how about one of those bonus stages becomes a game of snake in which you drive a bus and pick up children, and maybe put chimpan Z pics as obstacles. Just another thought for one of our many themes...

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@all: no copyrighted material!

What about copylefted material?

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tetris sounds cool

Do you plan on making your own tetromino engine, or are you going to use an existing one like Lockjaw?
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wait wow... i thought jorge was awkwardly feminine, not blantantly homosexual but trying to hide it....
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guys... i see a lot of good ideas, but i also see a lot of confusion. we need a downloadable design doc, so that everyone can read it, without the need to read all the posts in the thread.

snake - sounds cool!
tetris - probably our own cheesy version.
copyleft - i haven't had much experience with copyleft. ;^)
loading - everything should be loaded from files.
Jorge - if nobody disagrees, i have made him up to be an post sex reassignment male, who has given birth to a child (that "he" needs to save alonge with other children around the world) as a woman. he somehow felt like a gay male trapped inside a female body in the past. ;^)

... and now he's a superplumber (plumber being a stereotypical male job.)

the eiffel tower level plan looks good! that's exactly what i, personally, imaginged. the destruction of that wonderful building should get worse, the higher you get, with stuff bent all over the place etc. because the stages would get narrower, we need to think of some platforms, but not those generic, macically floating ones. something that fits the design.

hope that helps a little.

ps: i would make a .pdf (or whatever), if someone (AN? <- that's a question with two possible answers: "yes" and "no". ;^) ) were sending me the contents (just copy and paste important posts!) via PM.
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^ i agree with everything you said. so, we will have a design doc?
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we *must* have a DD!

i count five people interested (only [?] two [?] posted info about themselves so far!) in working on this project. imagine everyone would just start doing things withouth any common knowledge... a desaster. it would end before it even started.

that's why we *must* have a DD - we all need to have a clear vision of "what" has to be done by "whom" and "when" and everybody needs to know more or less (ideal would be "exactly") the same about the project and (!) it's members.

careful planing makes 90% (the rest is: 90% production and 90% testing... ;^D ) of a projects success.

best you guys send me a pm with your infos. maybe also include your age (if you like - you can also send stuff like "around 20" or "still in school"), so we can all adjust to each other.
that is needed, because it's pretty strange and sometimes frustrating when (this is fictional) you're an university educated, experienced game programmer and others, not knowing you *are*, treat you as if you were a 15-year-old beginner, that had no clue of what is going on. the other way around is equally bad.
so, again: communication is the key in team play. i'm telling you this as a person, that needs a lot of direct communication or else i'm getting lost (mostly by misinterpretting things) all the time!

those of you who know Pablo Francisco probably know what i mean, when i write: "I take it seriously, man!" ;^)
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Alright, I will update the design doc and pm it to you =). I have a lot of changes to make (have been rly busy lately, got some big tests coming up).

then you better concentrate on those tests! we're not in a hurry here (at least i'm not.) ;^D
good luck!
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Ty, and I am most of the way done fixing it already. I have been following our topic here *very* closely, so it isn't that hard. I will pm it to you in a little bit.

K, sent it. Oh, and we may want something in that doc about stealing those aforementioned copyleft documents to stop a nuclear holocaust or something, cause Jorge is just that awesome.

yeah, you're right. i'll see what i can find to "protect" our little compilation of the ultimate evil. ;^)
btw: how about him wearing a cowboy hat?
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sure, lol. Now he is a cowboy too... such a diverse game... wut u think of the doc?

it keeps saying Jorge is Mario's brother... i'll fix that. ;^)
after i finish reding it and take counsel with my pillow, i''ll make that .pdf and maybe something more editable and post it on the page.

i might as well make expand it a little. we'll see. :^)

anyways, thanks, man! :^D
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yep =). Bout the brother thing, i was prolly tired when I wrote that part,lol. Night!

[i thought he was mario's brother.] lol. so, wait, you want me [and everyone else interested] to pm you some info on ourselves?
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well, I think he just wants it posted. He is going to put the design doc up for download soon... I guess I should probably post my info rly quick here. I am gonna check what I need to post again...

- what have you already experience with?
Well, some BASIC on TI-83 calculators, and some early C++. Presently the most complex thing I have made (and silent knows about this one, lol) is getting a stick person to move around the screen, and making my own mini tile system since I couldn't understand the normal one.

- what would you like to help with?
I got the design covered for the most part, but of course everyone else is helping with that too in a way...

- what would you like to learn with this project?
Anything. (anything being everything I can without making it last longer than it has to, lol)

nsm333 wrote:

[i thought he was mario's brother.] lol. so, wait, you want me [and everyone else interested] to pm you some info on ourselves?

yupp, i need ta collect sum souls, ye know. ;^p
it's for the design doc.
if we want to work together, we need to know each other on *some* level, else this is going nowhere, i tell you. ;^)
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ok, ive programmed a little at school but this will be my first real swarie into DS' leet prog skillz.

in any case, my names Ry, i like in Melbourne, Australia, im 17 and im working full time so my nights are free.
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as i've said:

already have experience with: c++ coding, some sound, html, 2d games, some small demos on the ds

i would like to help with: coding, sound, maps, but i can't do graphics. no mouse, and no scanner.

i would like to learn: making (helping with) a full game.

i'm 15, but already have alot of experience with c and c++. just not on the ds. lol. i have to wonder how old everyone else is?
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i will make all personal information available to the team members only.
DD should be up on the page in a few days.

thanks, guys! :^)
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if you want you can use my forum... www.kadimo.com and put this under the games subforum?

for ease of design? of course we still tell the people of our progress at GBADev
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thanks for the offer. :^)
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ok, so. who is going to work on this? as far as i can tell:
alphanoob
silent_code
nsm333
edit: bean

what about you, lord_hardware?
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I believe lord and bean are also going to help, but they haven't confirmed...

bean sent his info, so count him, too. :^)
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Yeah, sorry I'm a little busy right now. I have been reading the thread, but I have little time so I probably wont be posting. I'll be available in about 3 weeks and I'll read this thread to keep posted on the latest during that time.

k. so, what about lord_hardware? yoo-hoo? lord_hardware?
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Hardware, it would be most preferable if you posted at least whether or not you are helping us out on this... lol. So, do we have anything started on teh coding of the first level? just curious. I personally am in no rush.
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we ain't coding the first level, dude. we'll be coding the first episode! ;^)
a level is more of a map than code. 8^D

if all goes weel, i'll be preparing the DD this Wiikend. that means, we might be able to divide tasks among team memebers next week and start "preproduction" (which the DD is a part of.)

Wii Niid to Diicide on THii folloWiing tasks, WHiich all are Liike: "[whatever] DiiSiign: [how maNii Piiple]") [just don't ask.... SiiLii mode OFF, right *now*!]:
- sprite graphics / animation: ~ 2
- tile graphics : 1 - 2
- game screen / menu graphics: 1
- map: 1
- sound: 1
- music: 1
- programming (minus the designer): 2 - 3

what needs to be programmed:
- file loading and (what also belogs to the next two points) background / sprite streaming (for scrolling / animation)
- a sprite management and animation engine
- map / background management
- user input
- collision detection
- game mechanics (all gameplay related rules etc.)
- enemy "ad" (artificial dumbness)
- game glue... errrr, i mean "screens / menus"
- sound and music playback

in a somewhat similar order, maybe. add in some nice effects, too! ;^)
did i forget something?

different tasks can be done by the same person. we just need to know who will do what part.

don't get me wrong, i don't want you to go all "i will do this and that" right now! this stuff is going to be put in the DD and i'm just asking, if i might have forgotten something. after the DD is out, we'll divide the tasks.

btw: i'm no good at leading teams, i guess, so i just don't want you to think i'm trying to lead this by posting stuff like this. i think that we might not need a leader (who wouldn't be me, anyways), as long as the team is small and fixed and everyone does what he ( / she) *volunteered* to do. keep your word, guys. that's a friendly reminder about the fact, that most people starting / helping out with projects like this, don't. ;^)
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Yeah, I fiigure we can all lead when we have something to lead about... thus making all and none the true leader.... man, I have been playing too many rpgs, I gotta stop talken like that, lol. So how much was missing from the DD that I sent you? Hope I didn't leave you with too much to add... btw, I could probably do the collision detection stuff, at least some of it. All that is is like:

Code:

if X<=1
X = 1

right, like making it so you don't fall through the floor or run through walls with stuff like the above 2 lines of totally hardcore code? I will sign autographs later, lol =)
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No not quite; but fear not as your questions have already been answered before (so do a search), and for everything else you can ask a question.

@ AN: you're here to learn and if it is cd you'd like to learn, then, if noone else will do it, you'll learn how to. :^)

actually cd is a bit more involved, but i think you could manage it. if you get the task, i'll tell you how it works. i'll tell you anyways, i guess. ;^)
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awesome =). I am always glad to learn something new, so if nobody else wants to do it, i totally will. This is gonna be really cool once we are all done with it. I will be a bit more active in a few weeks when school ends, so I will have plenty of time to work on the cd if I get that part. If not, I will work on whatever I get =)
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lol. you're lucky, alphanoob. my school never ends... now, i've already done collision detection, so you can have it.

edit: lol, nope, tepples. not what i meant.
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School that never ends... I think I had a nightmare about that once. So, anybody other than me want collision detection? Or do I have that one for sure? Also, can someone just post a very brief description of what all will precisely have to be done? cd sounds like something that I might, just *might* need in future projects, lol.

@ nsm: so, who do you think will win this everlasting ban-off between our sigs? lol
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Alphanoob wrote:

School that never ends... I think I had a nightmare about that once.

It's called having a job. Eventually, you'll need to get used to it.

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So, anybody other than me want collision detection? Or do I have that one for sure? Also, can someone just post a very brief description of what all will precisely have to be done?

So you want to detect whether two objects in a 2D game are overlapping. The first few subroutines that you need to write are functions that answer the following questions:

Does rectangle X overlap rectangle Y?
Does circle X overlap circle Y?
Does rectangle X overlap circle Y?
Is tile A solid? If so, what is the bounding rectangle or circle of its solid part?
Does tile X on the map overlap rectangle Y or circle Y?
Which tiles on the map would possibly overlap rectangle Y if they were completely solid?
Which tiles on the map actually do overlap rectangle Y or circle Y?

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@ nsm: so, who do you think will win this everlasting ban-off between our sigs?

Possibly Gannon, or perhaps Guckert.
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Thanks, I guess I got some work ahead of me. Oh, and you are probably right about the ban-off (or ban=off, "double bond" lol).
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i have revised the DD and as i see it, it still needs some work.
when i'm done, we will have to sit down and talk it over.

i have made some decisions for the in/exclusion of some DD points, that you might be confused or unhappy about. in that case, post about it!

due to the amount of work that has to be done on the DD, i aim to release it on my project page on friday. i plan it to be a usable and consistent DD, that could be turned in a fun to play game. unfortunately, that includes some sacrifices of (mostly time ;^D ) some ideas. again, if you think i have left something imperative out during the writing process, post here!

if lord_hardware guaranteed consistent support for the project by means of his forum, then i suggest, we should move discussions over to his place.

i guess, now it's getting serious. :^)
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Yeah, I think that he posted his stuff so much faster than the rest of us that we didn't notice, but hasn't said anything since. So, with drawing circles (something I have never done for the DS yet... I did it with BASIC, but that is because my calculator had a draw circle command already...). Is there a specific command for drawing, or do I get to make myself a function? Maybe like:

Code:

drawCircle(center, radius, circleDrawn = false)
{
while(circleDrawn = false)
{int pointDistApart = 1, presentSpot = (center - radius), pastCenter = 0;
VRAM_A[presentSpot + (presentSpot + pointDistApart) * SCREEN_WIDTH] = RGB15(31, 0, 0);

VRAM_A[presentSpot + (presentSpot - pointDistApart) * SCREEN_WIDTH] = RGB15(31, 0, 0);

if (pointDistApart == (radius - 2))
pastCenter = 1;

if(.... well, you get it. I have it draw poinst with presentSpot++ and the like...

yeah, that was some rough code since I didn't feel like going into programmers notepad and actually working out a function just yet. Is that about right though?
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Google bresenham circle to learn how to draw circles. Or you could put a predrawn circle in a sprite, as most Super NES games seemed to do.
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will do... soon as i'm done with my math homework, lol.

EDIT: I figure I should put it out there that we *are* still open to new people joining in the fun and helping out with this project. Just because we are about to get going doesn't mean it is too late to help =).
More people == faster completion time == fun! lol.
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sorry guys i was away for a little while... been working my home life, girlfriends life and my work life around my jorge... its... difficult? :P

yes im definately in... i'm going to tell my brother that im taking over a section of his forum SOLELY for this game so YEAH! :) until then post in the programming or games section... if your a user and cant post ill fix it all up
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alright, everyone has oficially checked in =). Now we can get this thing rolling! so, lets get these jobs dished out =).
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oh yeah! you can draw the circles, alphanoob. i'll do the squares.

edit: i was joking, tepples.
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Ok, sweet. So, are we even actually gonna be using circle/square functions, or will we just draw them directly into the tiles? Cause if we draw them right into the tiles then all we have to do is look for tiles colliding, not specific shapes... right? (I am still quite prone to being completely and utterly wrong)
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Circles and squares aren't something you draw. They're hitboxes.
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oooh. Thanks again tepples =). So (here comes the part where I am once again prone to being completely incorrect) I have to:

1. Figure out the range of these circular/rounded attacks
2. Make it so that they don't simply look cool and then morph through the enemie without any effect.
3. Figure out what I did wrong in programming the above and then fix it (This is something I am sure of, not a possibility. It is a rare program in which I get the intended effect on my first try.)

@tepples: That platform stuff is with the tile/sprite tho, right? That is like what I mentioned earlier with the if X>something and Y<something else then... right?
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You'll also need some sort of collision detection to make sure that the character doesn't fall through platforms.
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@ AN: hey, the best way to learn it is to do it! ;^)
try to make one "sprite" (stickman in your code) push another. if you manage to do that, add two more "sprites" (he does not use hw sprites) and see, if you can push all of them and if they will push each other when being pushed. psuh, push, psuh, push... ;?D

after that it's time for scene CD. ;^)
this involves some sort of collision map. that may be the regular level map. think of it: the character should be able to walk in all the "blank" tiles and not be able to penetrate (don't be childish, guys! X^D ) solid tiles, like the ground (which is a special case of:), platforms and walls. that means, while the character moves, you need to check if the next tile it will "enter" (not really, as sprites and maps are indipendent of each other) is either "solid" or "hollow" ("blank"). the character would only allowed to move in a direction, in which it whouldn't penetrate solids.
the next step is collision response: if a collision is detected, you need to do something appropriate, so that the character can move within the restrictions of the map. like walking on slopes or, in 3D, "sliding" when constantly colliding with walls.

BUT: is everyone ok with AN programming CD? i thought it was fair, if everybody could decide who does what part.
well, i've nothing against AN doing CD.

@ l_hw: welcome back. :^D

guys, give me a few days to put up the DD. i'm about half way through the current iteration, but i couldn't do anything yesterday, because i was in a recording studio with my brother. ;^)
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ok, alphanoob. you can do collision detection and "hitboxes". lets see... what can everyone else do? after you're done, silent_code, then we can hand out jobs.( i think... ) oh, yeah, did you want any help with the design doc?
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I think tepples should join the team, lol. I believe that silent posted a list of positions and how many we needed for each spot a page or two ago, so I guess we should all just look at that and say which we want. If multiple ppl want a one person spot, we can work it out (Internet rock, paper, scissors? Pm your move to a middle man, lol, who then tells who won... rofl). I will keep checking this topic every once and a while, but for now I am off to try out what silent suggested, and probably change my tile system up a bit...
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honestly, nothing against tepples, but i guess he would be quite bored with this, as he is an experienced programmer already and the only reason i do this is to help you guys willing to learn something... and yeah, the ideas we have here are quite fun, too. ;^)

i would appreciate some help with the DD, but first we need this second iteration to be done. after i release it in a more or less standardized form, i hope we can all participate in completing it.
then it would be our duty to put it all together to form a (current) final form.

:^)

ps: PRSonline? sounds like an aweseome mmo!? let's can Jorge and make PRSonline! <end of joke...>
wow, we have like... ut3 to help with such decisions, you know? ... X^D
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Should we be moving to LHW's forum?
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i guess, yes, as soon as he's got it ready! :^)
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July 5th 08: "Volumetric Shadow Demo" 1.6.0 (final) source released
June 5th 08: "Zombie NDS" WIP released!
It's all on my page, just click WWW below.

ok, sweet. I am trying to fix that dang jump thing before I start on pushing another sprite... lol. It jumps *way* too fast, not even drawing the middle of the jump for a milisecond. I tried doing that >>4 thing that you talked about, but it just made the jump higher as you move down the screen... Is there another way of slowing it down?
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w00

yes: doing it right. ;^)

send me your code, then i'll show you how to do it the right way. :^D
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July 5th 08: "Volumetric Shadow Demo" 1.6.0 (final) source released
June 5th 08: "Zombie NDS" WIP released!
It's all on my page, just click WWW below.

alright, lol. I deleted the function for jump and just coded it straight into the REG_KEYINPUT & KEY_B part, just so you know. I will send it right now =).
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w00

silent_code wrote:

honestly, nothing against tepples, but i guess he would be quite bored with this

That and I've been working on a non-handheld-related project, namely games for HTPCs.

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i would appreciate some help with the DD, but first we need this second iteration to be done. after i release it in a more or less standardized form, i hope we can all participate in completing it.

Perhaps you need a wiki to coordinate work on design documents.
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-- Where is he?
-- Who?
-- You know, the human.
-- I think he moved to Tilwick.

@ tepples: using a wiki is a very good idea, indeed! also, a very interesting topic. (HTPC)

could someone put up a wiki, please?
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July 5th 08: "Volumetric Shadow Demo" 1.6.0 (final) source released
June 5th 08: "Zombie NDS" WIP released!
It's all on my page, just click WWW below.

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