#170467 - hacker013 - Mon Sep 28, 2009 9:04 pm
Hey everybody,
I decided because te most old nds sources and stuff like that aren't downloadble anymore to setup a torrent tracker for high quality nds sources, homebrew games and related stuff. Please join this community so ensure high quality homebrew source. http://anime.exofire.net/ The site only excepts now 50 accounts to start with. Please join and help this starting community. Yes I know, the site has sometimes some errors because of the changes to the software on the server. But they a gone soon. I hope this community will grow to the larges (nds) homebrew community from the internet, yes I keep dreaming. Srry for the guys who can't join, it is a private tracker with limits but each time the limit is reached I will check if we can change the limit up to a new lvl.
If somebody has ideas for it or other things to share for it. Post it here in this topic.
Gr, Hacker013 ;)
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#170473 - gauauu - Tue Sep 29, 2009 2:48 am
I like the idea of having yet another good source for ds stuff. So I don't want to sound like a total naysayer and completely rain on your parade. But I do have a few critical thoughts:
Why torrents? Generally torrents are useful when you're dealing with large files, or a lack of legality. For small stuff like most DS files, I'm not sure that it's necessary. You also end up with a dependence on peers instead of everything actually being in one place.
What's up with the name Anime Universe? If you want this to go over, you have to do the legwork first of making it obviously be what it's supposed to be.
Creating an empty space and then asking people to contribute rarely works. Make it compelling first (do the homework of gathering as much DS stuff as you can), then people will want to come and contribute.
#170481 - sverx - Tue Sep 29, 2009 10:04 am
I personally think I miss something like the HBDB that's in DSOrganize... you know, sometimes you can't follow all the news and having all the latest versions and new releases in a single place would be nice. But I think we need something that can access single files and that can work from the DS itself, so I woulnd't choose torrent and trackers for that.
My 2 cents, of course.
#170483 - sonny_jim - Tue Sep 29, 2009 11:26 am
There's pretty much no point running it as a torrent, as other people have pointed out. I've managed to run ctorrent under DSLinux before and it wasn't too quick, even with our wifi stack.
It would be totally awesome to collect up all the classic hb and store them in one place before all the sites start 404'ing. A nice client for the DS would be the icing on the cake.
Suggestions for hb?
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#170490 - hacker013 - Tue Sep 29, 2009 3:38 pm
| gauauu wrote: |
What's up with the name Anime Universe? If you want this to go over, you have to do the legwork first of making it obviously be what it's supposed to be.
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That is the name where I used the source first for with a mysql backup to get it runnig, srry that I didn't changed that i time.
Why Torrents you say, because I haven't the endless space to host everything ever released in the homebrew scene. And why you don't want to share the load?
A nice app to get the latest news from the homebrew scene and downloads on your nds is nice but you have to understand that downloads on the nds always stay slow, most of the time. Maybe I can run a python p2pclient on the server and when the nds app request a file, the client will download it and send it to the nds app :)
@sonny_jim
Can you send me the ctorrent what you got working on dslinux? Does it support rssfeeds?
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#170492 - gauauu - Tue Sep 29, 2009 4:49 pm
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Why Torrents you say, because I haven't the endless space to host everything ever released in the homebrew scene. And why you don't want to share the load?
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I don't mind sharing the load, that's not the issue. The issue is whether you'll have enough people willing to "share the load" to make it work. (ie It's not MY project idea, so if I need to repurpose my computer to do something else, and stop seeding, I will. Suddenly, your site doesn't work because I'm not seeing)
If there was a large crowd of people interested in this stuff, you could assume that there'd be enough people to keep things alive. But for a topic of limited interest like this, and particularly something where the goal is archiving, as opposed to just allow easy downloading, torrents seem to be to be the wrong solution.
#170506 - hacker013 - Tue Sep 29, 2009 10:24 pm
I think I will stick to the plan but maybe add also the direct download futur. If some one could provide me a svn upload script >.>. I already have a svn download script and a p2p client for on the server to mirror it on the server but then I could mirror it on a svn repostory. And those are for opensource thingy's for free ;)
The site is almost finished and tomorrow will the forum be up and running. And maybe tomorrow will it contain some nds torrent downloads.
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#170507 - keldon - Tue Sep 29, 2009 10:38 pm
You can store them for free on mediafire; all you need to do is make sure that your account has been accessed by [either] you logging in within the last 60 days, or someone accessing one of your files within the last 30.
It's 1,000 times better than mega upload.
#170514 - sonny_jim - Wed Sep 30, 2009 12:30 am
personally, I use this place:
Free 30MB, No email to signup, literally takes 30 seconds and you get ftp access:
http://xthost.info/
Not affliated in any way, just like them
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@hacker013 wrt ctorrent
http://www.dslinux.org/f0rums/viewtopic.php?t=74
http://two.xthost.info/dslinux/ctorrent
I downloaded a torrent that was an 18MB pdf with ctorrent under DSLinux as a test. It took ages (>1hr) when the same torrent on my PC (ran at seperate times) did it in under 20 minutes. Do not over estimate the abilities of p2p on the DS, especially with the homebrew wifi code. A straight download is simpler and as long as it can resume, better imho.
You don't really need to worry about bandwidth, as I bet that there's less than half of DS homebrew users now than there has ever been, judging by lack of recent developments. Plus most DS homebrew is quite small, I bet you could squeeze in plenty of good stuff in 30MB :-)
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#170521 - Lynx - Wed Sep 30, 2009 1:58 pm
Why not contact one of the current homebrew sites and try to "revive" them? I've seen so many posts with "new site, please join" that disappear in a month. I doubt it is because they don't have good intentions, but I'm guessing it is because there are already enough sites. That, and maintaining a DS homebrew site is a ton of work.
I've always been open for help at ndshb.com. I'd overhaul the site in a heartbeat if people were willing to help me put it back together. But, any excited helpers that have come along didn't last longer that two weeks when they realized the work involved.
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#170528 - hacker013 - Wed Sep 30, 2009 5:41 pm
Whats the problem with ndshb.com ? Maybe I can help ;)
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#170529 - vuurrobin - Wed Sep 30, 2009 6:53 pm
I agree with Lynx, starting from scratch seems like a waste of energy seeing as there are already sites like it which already has an archive. it seems better to improve and add to those instead of redoing the work and trying to compete with them.
maybe you can even 'melt' (in lack of a better word) some of those site together. dev-scene has a nice archive while the forum is dead...
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#170531 - sonny_jim - Wed Sep 30, 2009 7:12 pm
Is there a DS client that can download and unzip from ndshb.com?
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#170532 - hacker013 - Wed Sep 30, 2009 7:19 pm
no there isn't I think otherwise much people would use it >.>
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#170546 - Lynx - Thu Oct 01, 2009 6:00 pm
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Mainly, it is just out of date. It has a little activity in the forums (end user, not dev) but the overall objective didn't make it. hive.ndshb.com was supposed to be the next step, allowing anyone to add files to the database, but again, it has proven to just not make it there. Then, of course, is the "outdated" look.
hive.ndshb.com currently has two different download modules installed, but I'm not sure if either of them really fit for a nds files download site.
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Heh.. I've failed at this topic so many times it's not funny. Here is the last failure:
NDSHB Hive
Prior to that was SLURP which worked about 70% of the time (if I remember correct) and was the Proof of Concept release that started us working on "NDSHB Hive".. but, again, after fighting with code for so long, it became such a mess that starting from scratch is probably the only real options now.
Of course, most of my attempts were back when you had to fight more with getting code to even work when it came to WiFi. But, being a crappy programmer doesn't help.
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#170548 - ritz - Thu Oct 01, 2009 6:40 pm
What about GameUP? I've never tried it, but sounds kinda like what you guys are talking about.
Now that I think of it, it'd be great if something like this really took off. GameUp or NDSHB Hive (or some new app) could utilize the new argv stuff from devkitARM (see HomebrewMenu code) and therefore homebrewers could start using "filesystem" (a maintained part of devkitARM) now that EFS has seemed to have disappeared. It could still support the old way of doing things of course for those roms that are not dev'd anymore.
Make the program a sticky here on the forum, get people to adopt it. Flash cards would then hopefully follow suit on the argv because of this new popular homebrew repos type program.
Kinda like a homebrew channel of sorts. No more websites, forum posts, etc. to scour looking for homebrew or updates to homebrew. Just an app on your DS that would allow you to browse available roms, download them, and run them... right from this "homebrew channel" type app. Devs could update their roms via a website like GameUP or hive.ndshb.com does, but users won't need to worry about that. They could even see a "NEW"/"UPDATED" type section when starting the app, kinda like DSiWare.
Could even start by talking with GameUP and pdroms.de or whoever to start generating the initial content/game/apps DB.
Anyway, my lunch-time ramble is over.
#170551 - sonny_jim - Thu Oct 01, 2009 7:52 pm
Hmm , DSLinux is fairly stable for things like downloading and unzipping (as long as you have extra RAM) but it's far from being the best way to do it.
What's the DSO homebrew database thing like? Work OK? Could it be changed/slimmed down?
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#170566 - sverx - Fri Oct 02, 2009 8:25 am
What I was thinking about was a simple client that can access (via http) a repository of .nds files (even not compressed... we could add http content encoding in a second stage) that are simply organized by type and date. Having a list of the additions since a specific date (or from the last day/week/month so to say) would be a nice plus. It doesn't even need a GUI, it could be text mode...
I can help working on that, if needed. But I can't do that on my own, I've -still- never seen wi-fi & tcp/ip code on DS...
#170568 - hacker013 - Fri Oct 02, 2009 5:13 pm
Lynx and I are discussing about it and I have a simple idea to get it up and runnig ;) I think in the next view days I can get something runnig ;)
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