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OffTopic > Fun with microwave ovens

#34161 - netdroid9 - Fri Jan 14, 2005 12:37 pm

Megaman wrote:
The carts are somehowe glued together. There are no screws or snaps. I opened my Metroid demo using a knife and bend it up.


I wonder if you can melt the glue?

Anyone want to put it in the microwave and find out? :P

#34172 - mocnicom - Fri Jan 14, 2005 7:59 pm

netdroid9 wrote:


I wonder if you can melt the glue?

Anyone want to put it in the microwave and find out? :P

That's just mean, someone might actually do it.

#34187 - netdroid9 - Sat Jan 15, 2005 5:02 am

Could anyone be that stupid?

#34188 - mymateo - Sat Jan 15, 2005 5:05 am

I work in a computer store, and a lady brought in her computer because she was having troubles with it. She couldn't figure out how to unplug her monitor, so she took scissors (or something of that sort) and cut the monitor cable instead of asking for help. It cost her $250 for a new monitor, and her old one was in perfect condition until she got at it.

So, yes. People ARE that stupid. Or at least they're close...

#34189 - dagamer34 - Sat Jan 15, 2005 5:07 am

mymateo wrote:
I work in a computer store, and a lady brought in her computer because she was having troubles with it. She couldn't figure out how to unplug her monitor, so she took scissors (or something of that sort) and cut the monitor cable instead of asking for help. It cost her $250 for a new monitor, and her old one was in perfect condition until she got at it.

So, yes. People ARE that stupid. Or at least they're close...


Wow, scissors. And monitor cables are pretty thick too.
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#34190 - Sebbo - Sat Jan 15, 2005 5:27 am

i put a popper (juice box or whatever u want to call it, u know those boxes with aluminium lining on the inside and fruit juice?) in a microwave because it was frozen and i wanted to thaw it quickly. had my own stobe light for a couple of seconds b4 i decided something was wrong

getting a bit off track now tho :-P

#34191 - mymateo - Sat Jan 15, 2005 6:08 am

Maybe we should start a new thread: things to put in microwaves. We can discuss things we should stick in a microwave, and what we think will happen to it. Then, we can find a spare microwave, test it out, film it, and put it on the 'net.

I wanna freeze a can of shaving cream and stick it in on high for a couple minutes. BOOM!

#34192 - ravuya - Sat Jan 15, 2005 6:12 am

dagamer34 wrote:
mymateo wrote:
I work in a computer store, and a lady brought in her computer because she was having troubles with it. She couldn't figure out how to unplug her monitor, so she took scissors (or something of that sort) and cut the monitor cable instead of asking for help. It cost her $250 for a new monitor, and her old one was in perfect condition until she got at it.

So, yes. People ARE that stupid. Or at least they're close...


Wow, scissors. And monitor cables are pretty thick too.


I'm continually amazed that electrocution isn't more common in this country.
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#34193 - Dib - Sat Jan 15, 2005 6:23 am

What would be common in this country is if he turned around and sued the microwave manufacturer afterward.

#34195 - MumblyJoe - Sat Jan 15, 2005 7:24 am

Put a cd or a dvd into the microwave for like a minute or two. Coolest thing ever.
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#34198 - netdroid9 - Sat Jan 15, 2005 9:20 am

Dib wrote:
What would be common in this country is if he turned around and sued the microwave manufacturer afterward.


Hmmm...

WARNING: I take no responsibility for any damage that may occur by doing anything I say.

Thats that problem solved (For me at least). But is anyone on this forum going to be that stupid? I wouldn't post it on a 'How to use microwaves' forum or anything like that...

#34200 - mymateo - Sat Jan 15, 2005 9:42 am

netdroid9 wrote:
But is anyone on this forum going to be that stupid?


Any of the respected regulars? No. But don't forget, there's no screening for new members, so you never know... we may meet that special someone! My dad told me a story of a friend who wanted to cook beans... canned beans. No, not in a microwave. But not in a pot, either. Right in the can, on the stove. Did I mention the can was still completely un-opened? Yeah... half an hour later (or so), the can exploded. True story.

#34202 - human_tree - Sat Jan 15, 2005 11:19 am

I honestly put my girlfriend's mobile in a microwave.. It was only for 3 seconds but it hasn't worked since.. I could swear 3 seconds wouldn't do it any harm, but I've learnt better now..

#34203 - Sebbo - Sat Jan 15, 2005 11:20 am

hehe, thats actually fun to do...not that i've done it on a stove. rather, it was a nice big can (u know those one about 9" high and almost as thick) and a camp fire. the tarp now looks like a patchwork.
*thinks for sec* mayb i'm your special someone :-D

#34208 - Gatchers - Sat Jan 15, 2005 3:21 pm

Putting mobile phones in a microwave is disturbingly not uncommon.

We've had several of our mobile phone units sent to our returns department which have been microwaved.

Interestingly, typically the area of most damage is where the most 'metal' parts on the PCB actually connect to the PCB - usually this is the RF can around the baseband ICs and the connection to the vibrator (a metal cylinder or coin vibrator module).

#34210 - dagamer34 - Sat Jan 15, 2005 5:09 pm

Gatchers wrote:
Putting mobile phones in a microwave is disturbingly not uncommon.

We've had several of our mobile phone units sent to our returns department which have been microwaved.

Interestingly, typically the area of most damage is where the most 'metal' parts on the PCB actually connect to the PCB - usually this is the RF can around the baseband ICs and the connection to the vibrator (a metal cylinder or coin vibrator module).


...


You making me believe that people ACTUALLY MICROWAVE their cell phones!!!
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#34214 - tepples - Sat Jan 15, 2005 6:19 pm

A better way to thaw something using a microwave oven:
  1. Microwave a bowl of water.
  2. Remove the bowl from the microwave oven.
  3. Seal your frozen item in a plastic bag.
  4. Put the plastic bag in the bowl with the hot water.
I'm guessing that this method would prove significantly safer. Am I right?
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#34221 - Zhila - Sat Jan 15, 2005 8:21 pm

MumblyJoe wrote:
Put a cd or a dvd into the microwave for like a minute or two. Coolest thing ever.


Reminds me of a surman at church. The Pastor had told all of us about how he stuck a CD into a microwave, in attempt to deform it (the deformation of an object was to be used as an analogy for the topic of the surman), and after three seconds of seeing the sparks fly, he told his wife to "TAKE THE CD OUT OF THE MICROWAVE." After telling a few friends on the net about this, so many people went to put a CD in the microwave.
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#34231 - dagamer34 - Sun Jan 16, 2005 12:22 am

Zhila wrote:
MumblyJoe wrote:
Put a cd or a dvd into the microwave for like a minute or two. Coolest thing ever.


Reminds me of a surman at church. The Pastor had told all of us about how he stuck a CD into a microwave, in attempt to deform it (the deformation of an object was to be used as an analogy for the topic of the surman), and after three seconds of seeing the sparks fly, he told his wife to "TAKE THE CD OUT OF THE MICROWAVE." After telling a few friends on the net about this, so many people went to put a CD in the microwave.


You are only a carrier to spread the madness.
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#34239 - netdroid9 - Sun Jan 16, 2005 3:58 am

dagamer34 wrote:
You making me believe that people ACTUALLY MICROWAVE their cell phones!!!


Of course! How else do you expect to get that crisp taste?

#34241 - mymateo - Sun Jan 16, 2005 4:11 am

tepples wrote:
A better way to thaw something using a microwave oven:
  1. Microwave a bowl of water.
  2. Remove the bowl from the microwave oven.
  3. Seal your frozen item in a plastic bag.
  4. Put the plastic bag in the bowl with the hot water.
I'm guessing that this method would prove significantly safer. Am I right?


Yes, this would work well for frozen items, but I'm afraid this is unhelpful in our current topic.

[Sarcasm]
We're trying to find out how long you can safely microwave stuff that you shouldn't microwave.

Geez, some people just aren't that smart, eh?
[/Sarcasm]

#34254 - abigsmurf - Sun Jan 16, 2005 3:21 pm

if you put a lightbulb in a microwave it glows for a few seconds before exploding

#34258 - dagamer34 - Sun Jan 16, 2005 4:49 pm

abigsmurf wrote:
if you put a lightbulb in a microwave it glows for a few seconds before exploding


Lovely, now some idiot is going to go try THAT out.

*runs away with a lightbulb*
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#34265 - mymateo - Sun Jan 16, 2005 8:44 pm

I hear if you take a fluorescent lightbulb and put it in the microwave, it actually lights up and doesn't explode. Yeah, I know it's probably off topic if it doesn't explode... so I'll balance it out with a story of something else exploding. Apparently, frogs don't know when they've had enough to eat. A friend told me about a little girl who was upset because the person looking after her frog while she was gone fed it too much, and it burst. Also, frogs apparently will grab and eat anything that flys by them, and the same friend told me a story of a person she knew who threw beebee pellets until the frog had doubled in size. Hacky-sac anyone?

Hmm... fill a frog with metal pellets... metal in microwave... I'm not gonna say it, but use your imagination...

#34282 - randomdude - Mon Jan 17, 2005 2:14 am

You know, in my new house, I found a 2.5kwatt industrial microwave, the other day.

*grins evilly*

#34288 - netdroid9 - Mon Jan 17, 2005 5:09 am

mymateo wrote:
I hear if you take a fluorescent lightbulb and put it in the microwave, it actually lights up and doesn't explode.


Don't fluorescent lightbulbs work using chemical reactions?

It wouldn't be that unusual for it to glow in the microwave if it works with chemical reactions, because the heat increases the speed of the reaction. And in a normal bulb it heats up the filament, as if electricity was flowing through it.

#34305 - eyeball226 - Mon Jan 17, 2005 2:38 pm

That is kinda wrong, it isnt a chemical reaction at all.
AFAIK it is electricity passing through a gas, the gas becomes exited and emits some kind of particles. These particles hit a coating (like the coating on the inside of a CRT) on the inside of the glass and make it glow, microwaves also make the coating glow.

Uh-oh, so incredibly off topic I'm gonna have to eat my own hand.
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#34312 - mymateo - Mon Jan 17, 2005 5:59 pm

Y'know, the original question was answered in the 3rd reply... I don't think you need to be concerned with being off topic anymore. At least, not until a mod closes this topic for being un-"DS development".

Which, BTW, this topic IS about... if someone can make a theory about hooking their computer into a microwave to make it act as a signal booster for your DS. Just put the DS in the microwave, set to HIGH for about, I dunno, 5 Minutes? Then use a serial interface to... uh, fluctuate the... pulses... in the something or other of the microwave... and it'll work... and stuff...

#34345 - netdroid9 - Tue Jan 18, 2005 9:48 am

mymateo wrote:
Which, BTW, this topic IS about... if someone can make a theory about hooking their computer into a microwave to make it act as a signal booster for your DS. Just put the DS in the microwave, set to HIGH for about, I dunno, 5 Minutes? Then use a serial interface to... uh, fluctuate the... pulses... in the something or other of the microwave... and it'll work... and stuff...


3 easy steps.

1. Pull apart a Microwave to get the heating unit and power unit.
2. Use a serial interface to control a relay which activates the Microwaves power unit (Plugged in, of course), and which in chain activates the heating unit. (Microwave Transmitter).
3. Use a WiFi-to-Ethernet bridge (Idea? Everyone is using standard WiFi hardware, what about a bridge?) to grab the signals and an application to control the Microwave Transmitter via the serial port.

Personally, I'd prefer the use of a PIC microcontroller to create a WiFi-to-Ethernet-to-Microwave bridge.

Note: A Microwave transmitter will be required, for both sides. And another Trasmitter for the other side. I take no responsibility for anything in this post. I do not in any way endorse this device. I will take no responsibility for it's actions. If you microwave your brain, don't come complaning to me. And no, I do not understand gibberish.

#34356 - eyeball226 - Tue Jan 18, 2005 2:19 pm

There isnt a 'heating unit' in a microwave (unless it has a grill aswell, but that is just a normal heating element), it uses something called a 'magnatron' that generates microwaves.
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#34388 - Miked0801 - Tue Jan 18, 2005 9:30 pm

OK, it's GBA now - running microwave ovens completely destroy signal integrity for the GBA RFU units. When testing we could figure out why it had a range of like 10M in the main building, but next to nothing in the kitchen (at lunch time.)

#34398 - mymateo - Wed Jan 19, 2005 12:13 am

I see a mod moved this to the off-topic section. Hey, I thought we covered this! I thought we were discussing how you could use a microwave to boost the DS wireless range. Hmm... Wireless Range...

OK, now we have to use a DS to cook food! It'll be a Wireless Range! (You know, a range? Also known as a stove?) Uh, someone kick my ass quick before I go too far...

#34420 - tepples - Wed Jan 19, 2005 6:45 am

mymateo wrote:
I see a mod moved this to the off-topic section.

You're welcome.

Quote:
I thought we were discussing how you could use a microwave to boost the DS wireless range.

The original discussion was about using a microwave oven to melt the glue holding DS Game Paks together.

Quote:
OK, now we have to use a DS to cook food! It'll be a Wireless Range!

If you want to cook food wirelessly, use a chemical heater similar to the ones in MRE (Meal Ready to Eat) rations. If it's good enough for the U.S. Army, it's good enough for you maggots.
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#34425 - Abscissa - Wed Jan 19, 2005 7:28 am

mymateo wrote:
Hmm... fill a frog with metal pellets... metal in microwave... I'm not gonna say it, but use your imagination...

Hmm...

2+2=...Eeeewwww!

#34470 - mymateo - Thu Jan 20, 2005 1:42 am

Sometimes, tepples, I wonder if you can tell when I'm being sarcastic... Either that, or I can't tell when you're using very dry wit in your responses...

#34474 - tepples - Thu Jan 20, 2005 2:00 am

Both. I have Asperger syndrome, which interferes with my ability to detect sarcasm, but I sometimes use dry wit to present myself as a character with even more severe Asperger syndrome.
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#34508 - mymateo - Thu Jan 20, 2005 6:04 pm

No offense meant.

#35516 - ampz - Sat Feb 05, 2005 11:11 pm

mymateo wrote:
I work in a computer store, and a lady brought in her computer because she was having troubles with it. She couldn't figure out how to unplug her monitor, so she took scissors (or something of that sort) and cut the monitor cable instead of asking for help. It cost her $250 for a new monitor, and her old one was in perfect condition until she got at it.

So, yes. People ARE that stupid. Or at least they're close...

You sold her a new monitor, just because the cable was cut?!?
Talk about ripping someone off...
You could just have mounted a new connector to the monitor cable! It is very easy, and very inexpensive.
If she cut the cable too short, then you would have to replace the entire cable, but that would still be way less expensive than a new monitor.

Ok, warning to everyone: Don't go to "Mymateo's Computer Store" if you don't want to have to pay for a new PC when you spilled coffee in your keyboard... ;-)

#35525 - mymateo - Sun Feb 06, 2005 2:58 am

Wow, hey, what's with the personal attacks?

The monitor, I should mention, was about 5 or 6 years old. And mounting a new connection ISN'T necessarily easy if you've never done it before, and don't have the parts or the tools necessary (I don't know if you need any specialized tools though). We send people over to a local repair shop for those kinds of things, and the shop quoted her about 50 bucks (plus tax CDN) to fix it, and she decided to get a new monitor instead. Even though her old monitor was in perfect working order, that doesn't mean it was going to stay that way for very long. (And she cut the cable right at the very end, leaving the stub on the computer so yes, she had plenty of cable to play with, but that's not the point here either.)

Quote:
Ok, warning to everyone: Don't go to "Mymateo's Computer Store" if you don't want to have to pay for a new PC when you spilled coffee in your keyboard... ;-)


Seriously, I find that very offensive. I didn't sell her a new PC because her old monitor was broken by accident. She bought a new monitor because she INTENTIONALLY damaged the old one. Apples and oranges, buddy. Better to say "Don't take your keyboard to Mymateo's Computer Store to get the coffee cleaned out because the minimum labour charge of half an hour ($30 CDN) costs twice as much as a brand new keyboard will" because it is, at least, the whole and honest truth.

#35600 - ampz - Mon Feb 07, 2005 11:01 pm

I'am sorry if I offended you. I just found it very funny that you sold someone a new monitor because the connector on the previous (otherwise in perfect condition) monitor was cut.

Your original post did not indicate the fact that she was given the choice between a repair and a new monitor, and the post read "(the monitor) was in perfect condition" rather than "six years old but in working order".

Your analogy of buying a new keyboard when there is coffee in the old one is not really a fair comparison. A monitor is $250, a keyboard is $15. Coffee often kills the contacts and electronics in a keyboard, making it impossible to repair. A cut connector is easily repaired.

You say something broken by accident and something intentionally broken is like apples and oranges? Not from a salesmans point of view. Unless of course she cut the cable because she was going to buy a new monitor from you anyway, but I doubt that was the case. And if it was, then your original post is not exactly valid, is it?

#35657 - mymateo - Wed Feb 09, 2005 2:20 am

The original post IS still valid. I didn't include as much detail because it wasn't relevant. The point I was making originally was that instead of simply asking how to unplug the monitor, she cut the cable, and that was very stupid. And it's not like I begged and pleaded her to buy a new monitor. Besides, I'm not a salesman, I'm a tech. I get paid for FIXING things, not for SELLING things. So if I can fix things instead of just selling a replacement, then I will. Otherwise, I'd be out of a job.

#35664 - headspin - Wed Feb 09, 2005 5:09 am

Since she cut the cord right at the end, it would be very easy for an electician to attach a new plug (or anyone else who takes the time to figure out what color wires go where). If she bought a new one, I think they should have offered to fix the old one for free. At least then she could sell the old one. I have a feeling she didn't know the easier alternative..

(This is not directed at you mymateo), but it scares me how much computer stores take advantage of people's lack of knowedge with electronics. I find when I go to a store often they start crapping on trying to sell me stuff until they realise I know more than they do and they start being honest or I just expose their lack of knowledge on the subject and make them squirm. It really annoys me, and makes me wonder how many suckers get jibbed by sales people. It's funny when someone tries to confuse you with techno babble when it's practically your second language!

Wasn't this thread about blowing things up with microwaves? ... *bang* .. *bits of broken glass in my eyes* .... back on topic :)
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#35777 - Miked0801 - Thu Feb 10, 2005 7:43 pm

It's the same with all things sales. If you go to buy something and have no knowledge of that item and don't want to spend the time to get that knowledge, you are at the mercy of the salesman and as such, you will pay him extra commision for your missing knowledge. It's not ethics, but economics.

#36230 - mymateo - Wed Feb 16, 2005 7:53 am

Fun with microwave ovens, eh? Just stumbled upon this... it came from http://www.drunkbastard.net/weirdshit.htm

http://www.drunkbastard.net/weirdshit/joemicro.zip

Have fun... I clicked on 10 first thing...