#42979 - OrR - Tue May 17, 2005 7:23 pm
http://www.n-philes.com/?id=1184
We'll have fun with this system for some more months. :)
#42980 - Quirky - Tue May 17, 2005 7:29 pm
Is it my imagination, or is the screen smaller too? It doesn't mention anything in the article about it being the same size or smaller though.
#42981 - OrR - Tue May 17, 2005 7:42 pm
#42987 - josath - Tue May 17, 2005 8:33 pm
It's just a smaller gba, and yes the screen is smaller, look at this image: http://gamefreax.de/images/gbamicro.jpg and compare the size of the screen to the size of the gba cart
#42991 - maniacdevnull - Tue May 17, 2005 9:54 pm
That thing looks cool, but to be honest, it is too way small for an adult to hold. My hands already hurt from playing my GBA SP (I hate the shoulder buttons). Unless it can also play mp3s or something, this looks like something I will be skipping.
#42992 - tepples - Tue May 17, 2005 10:01 pm
| maniacdevnull wrote: |
| Unless it can also play mp3s or something, this looks like something I will be skipping. |
Take your pick: GBA Movie Player, Play-Yan, or flash cart + GSM Player.
(I'll keep plugging it as long as people keep repeating the misconception that the GBA can't play music ripped from CD.)
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#42996 - maniacdevnull - Tue May 17, 2005 10:36 pm
| tepples wrote: |
| maniacdevnull wrote: | | Unless it can also play mp3s or something, this looks like something I will be skipping. |
Take your pick: GBA Movie Player, Play-Yan, or flash cart + GSM Player.
(I'll keep plugging it as long as people keep repeating the misconception that the GBA can't play music ripped from CD.) |
I ment more of an integrated mp3 player, like the one on the PSP. I understand that the GBA can be made to play music, but I'm not interested in something that ties up my flashcart, requires me to reburn the flashcart to get new songs, sacrifice quality, and limit me to 32MB of music. I want something where I can plug it into my computer, copy over at least 256MB of mp3s (and maybe OGGs or FLACs) at USB 2.0 speeds, and go.
And if this thing doesn't do that out of the box, I'm not interested. I already have a DS and a SP, I see no reason in spending more money, especially when I wil be spending enough cash on a PS3 and Revo (I'm on the fence about the 360)
#43005 - cocole - Wed May 18, 2005 3:08 am
| maniacdevnull wrote: |
| And if this thing doesn't do that out of the box, I'm not interested. I already have a DS and a SP, I see no reason in spending more money, especially when I wil be spending enough cash on a PS3 and Revo (I'm on the fence about the 360) |
If you want a mp3 player, you'd better buy a USB Thumbstick wma / mp3 one. They are dirt cheap and do well the job. I myself have one + a ipod shuffle and they are both OK. Anyway, I think that a console is made to be plaid on and a mp3 player is made to be listen to. That said, I dont get people who listen to mp3s off of a GBA or watch movies on a GBA.
#43028 - Intrepion - Wed May 18, 2005 11:28 am
Yeah, it's way smaller. According to an article on the nintendo website, it'll have a 2-inch backlit screen, whereas the GBA and SP have a 2.9" screen. But man, if I can fit a GameBoy in the same pocket as my cell phone, I'm sold.
#43048 - Abscissa - Wed May 18, 2005 5:54 pm
I don?t mean to be a curmudgeon, but all I could think of when I saw that was how incredibly cramped my fingers would get :/. The regular GBA is painful enough for my large hands, at least on certain games like Metroid Fusion.
#43061 - tepples - Wed May 18, 2005 7:31 pm
| cocole wrote: |
| That said, I dont get people who listen to mp3s off of a GBA or watch movies on a GBA. |
People who already own a flash cart and who like to regularly swap out the games on their flash cart are also likely to be people who like to regularly swap out the music on their flash cart.
As for movies, on the other hand, some parents who have already given an 80 USD GBA SP to their kids would rather make several 30 USD purchases (GBA Video paks, 45 minutes each in length, purchased 2 at a time) than one 150 USD purchase (DVD Video player to use with already purchased DVD Video titles). Yes, the human mind is irrational, but a lot of parents live from paycheck to paycheck.
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#43104 - SmileyDude - Thu May 19, 2005 3:35 am
| tepples wrote: |
| As for movies, on the other hand, some parents who have already given an 80 USD GBA SP to their kids would rather make several 30 USD purchases (GBA Video paks, 45 minutes each in length, purchased 2 at a time) than one 150 USD purchase (DVD Video player to use with already purchased DVD Video titles). Yes, the human mind is irrational, but a lot of parents live from paycheck to paycheck. |
It's not just the paycheck to paycheck thing -- as a parent, I certainly think a bit longer before giving my 8 year old something small enough to lose that costs $150. But, if he loses a $15-$20 cart, no big deal.
That's a big part of the reason why my son never gets to borrow my flash cart -- even if I'm not using it at the time.
Personally, we went the alternative way -- we got a car with a DVD player in it. We get to use our already purchased movies, everyone can see it that needs to (i.e, the kids), and it won't get lost under the couch, left a friends house, ran over by the car/bike/mailman, etc, etc, etc. :D
EDIT: I relalised that I didn't even comment on the topic at hand, which is why I came here in the first place :)
Personally, I think the Micro is a pretty nice piece of hardware. If I wasn't planning on getting a DS, a Micro would definetly be in my future. But, as it stands right now, it's not enough to get me to replace my SP.
I do prefer the horizontal layout of the Micro and original GBA, though. If I didn't already have the SP, I would probably spring for the Micro over the SP. Even though the screen is smaller, the buttons/joypad are spaced further apart than they are on the SP. The micro won't be as hand cramping as the SP.
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#43108 - tepples - Thu May 19, 2005 5:40 am
| SmileyDude wrote: |
| as a parent, I certainly think a bit longer before giving my 8 year old something small enough to lose that costs $150. |
You mean like his Nintendo DS?
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| That's a big part of the reason why my son never gets to borrow my flash cart -- even if I'm not using it at the time. |
If my 9-year-old cousin can take care of an $80 Game Boy, he can take care of an $80 EFA cart, and in fact he does.
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| Personally, I think the Micro is a pretty nice piece of hardware. If I wasn't planning on getting a DS, a Micro would definetly be in my future. But, as it stands right now, it's not enough to get me to replace my SP. |
I wonder if the Micro will have room for a link cable, or if it'll have a form factor change like what happened at the start of the Game Boy Pocket era.
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#43113 - josath - Thu May 19, 2005 6:53 am
| Quote: |
| The system has an EXT port that will be used for charging the internal battery as well as provide a plug-in for the link cable dongle that will be made for the unit. The EXT port is proprietary to the Game Boy Micro, looking similar to plug-in ports for a cellphone. |
#43133 - Lupin - Thu May 19, 2005 12:02 pm
The GBmicro is a waste of money if you already have a GBA SP, ok it is a bit smaller but who would waste his money just for a GBA that is a bit smaller if you already have, a quite small, GBA SP?
It's just another way to suck out the last $$$ from an successfull system, just like Nintendo did with the GameBoy by releasing various versions of it (colored gameboy, gameboy pocket, (gameboy color)). And back then i bought all of the gameboys... i wish i wouldn't have wasted my money on that :(
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#43146 - tepples - Thu May 19, 2005 2:47 pm
If you only have one GBA, and you want to develop multiplayer games, then of course you need a new system and its presumably included dongle.
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#43149 - SmileyDude - Thu May 19, 2005 2:59 pm
| tepples wrote: |
| You mean like his Nintendo DS? |
actually, he doesn't have a DS -- he wants one, but we've pretty much told him that he has to save his money to get it.
And as for losing it, he has misplaced his SP so many times, it's ridiculous. Luckily, he hasn't lost it someplace outside the house/car. The latest time, it was missing for a whole month :O
Hopefully having him save and buy his own DS will teach him to take care of his own stuff better. :)
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#43154 - tepples - Thu May 19, 2005 3:56 pm
| SmileyDude wrote: |
| actually, he doesn't have a DS -- he wants one, but we've pretty much told him that he has to save his money to get it. |
At what level of allowance income?
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#43266 - Ultima2876 - Sat May 21, 2005 5:40 am
GBA Micro = SHINIES so I get <3 *shot*
I like the fact that if the screen's smaller, it'll be sharper. And after the DS I'm sure it'll be brighter and nicer too - just what the doctor ordered. I have big hands, but I experience no discomfort playing on tiny systems (small mobiles, SP, etc).
As long as it doesn't go for extortionate prices, and has a headphone port and the dongle/charger included, I'm sure I'll pick one up the day it comes out in the US (I live in the UK so I'll import it - it'd probably actually be even cheaper that way too thanks to the great exchange rate we're having, and have had for the past year or so).
#43328 - tepples - Sun May 22, 2005 4:46 am
| Ultima2876 wrote: |
| As long as it doesn't go for extortionate prices |
Reuters reports (link expires on June 3 or thereabouts) that Satoru Iwata has disclosed that Game Boy Micro costs more to manufacture than the GBA SP does and hinted that it might carry a higher MSRP.
Educated speculation: With the release of the Micro, we could see an SP price cut this holiday season.
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#43459 - Abscissa - Mon May 23, 2005 7:58 pm
| Lupin wrote: |
The GBmicro is a waste of money if you already have a GBA SP, ok it is a bit smaller but who would waste his money just for a GBA that is a bit smaller if you already have, a quite small, GBA SP?
It's just another way to suck out the last $$$ from an successfull system, just like Nintendo did with the GameBoy by releasing various versions of it (colored gameboy, gameboy pocket, (gameboy color)). And back then i bought all of the gameboys... i wish i wouldn't have wasted my money on that :( |
It's obviously not intended for people who already have a GBA. If somebody buys 10 different versions of the same thing it's their own fault, not Nintendo's.
#43517 - ColtWanger - Tue May 24, 2005 2:35 am
I will probably get one as well once I find a list of compatible flash carts for it.
I like how Nintendo is aiming towards the "fashion-concious" consumers. Hopefully if they have a wide range of interchangable faceplates (you know third parties will make their own like crazy if it's successful), they will attract more and more people. Just pay some popular music stars to walk around with one in their own faceplates, and watch the sales rise.
Similar to that commercial where "Puff Daddy" gets a flat tire or something and has to arrive to an awards ceremony in a Pepsi truck, then everyone and their grandma is driving a pepsi truck with 45" rims (ok, exaggeration).
I'd have to look at the faceplates first to see if I even want to buy one (a faceplate that is), but I like to keep things plain and simple and will probably just stick with the default look. Seems this product will appeal to a wider array of audiences (IE people who pick PSP because it looks sleeker than the DS).
#45012 - Intrepion - Tue Jun 07, 2005 3:45 am
| ColtWanger wrote: |
| I will probably get one as well once I find a list of compatible flash carts for it. |
Were there flash cards incompatible with the SP? I was thinking about buying an SP! (Assuming the price drops when the Micro comes out)
#45025 - APL - Tue Jun 07, 2005 4:26 am
I wish they'd make a GameBoy macro.
Some of us have big hands.
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#45034 - tepples - Tue Jun 07, 2005 5:23 am
| APL wrote: |
| I wish they'd make a GameBoy macro. |
Nintendo already did. It's compatible with all games that work on GBA except tilt sensor games, sun sensor games, camera accessories, and (if you don't have a flash card or an Action Replay adapter) GBA Video. Even the biggest (non-diseased) hands should have no problem with this controller.
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#45037 - MrD - Tue Jun 07, 2005 7:45 am
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| Nintendo already did. It's compatible with all games that work on GBA except tilt sensor games, sun sensor games, camera accessories, and (if you don't have a flash card or an Action Replay adapter) GBA Video. Even the biggest (non-diseased) hands should have no problem with this controller. |
The D-Pad on a Gamecube... BIG, sir? :o
Also, "It's compatible with all games that work on GBA except tilt sensor games,..." is that because it Simply Doesn't Support Them, or is it because you just don't wanna grab that handle and shimmy and shake that box around? ;D
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#45764 - Abscissa - Tue Jun 14, 2005 7:03 pm
| MrD wrote: |
| The D-Pad on a Gamecube... BIG, sir? :o |
I can't even count how many times I've smashed my GC controller into the wall because of that piece of crap excuse for a d-pad... (And the Dreamcast's also)
#45784 - tepples - Tue Jun 14, 2005 10:27 pm
| MrD wrote: |
| Quote: | | [Game Boy Player is] compatible with all games that work on GBA except tilt sensor games [and a few others]. Even the biggest (non-diseased) hands should have no problem with this controller. |
The D-Pad on a Gamecube... BIG, sir? :o |
You forgot the link to "this controller" which is an arcade size joystick.
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| Also, "It's compatible with all games that work on GBA except tilt sensor games,..." is that because it Simply Doesn't Support Them, or is it because you just don't wanna grab that handle and shimmy and shake that box around? ;D |
The latter. Nintendo recommends strongly against trying to play tilt sensor games because the GameCube has moving parts: fans and an optical drive. Same with sun sensors and cameras; the fans and optical drives are designed to work in a position that may not be the best for receiving light. GBA Video, on the other hand, needs a cheat device to bypass the check which was put there for copy prevention.
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#45799 - SmileyDude - Wed Jun 15, 2005 3:10 am
| tepples wrote: |
| GBA Video, on the other hand, needs a cheat device to bypass the check which was put there for copy prevention. |
wait -- are they really trying to prevent people from copying video that is formatted for the GBA onto a videotape? Why would anyone even bother? Just recording the stuff off TV or possibly copying a DVD would be much easier, and will look much much better.
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#45845 - tepples - Wed Jun 15, 2005 8:10 pm
| SmileyDude wrote: |
| wait -- are they really trying to prevent people from copying video that is formatted for the GBA onto a videotape? Why would anyone even bother? Just recording the stuff off TV or possibly copying a DVD would be much easier, and will look much much better. |
Believe it. Here's the official word:
| Nintendo wrote: |
| Because the Game Boy Player can be attached to a VCR or DVD recorder, the ability to play Game Boy Advance Videos was disabled to prevent illegal copying of Game Boy Video material. |
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