#47243 - Sappharad - Wed Jul 06, 2005 7:08 pm
| In this post, FourScience wrote: |
| did you ever hear about the Gamecube discs spinning backwards |
Gamecube discs do NOT spin backwards. They are encrypted.
#47249 - G-Pjube - Wed Jul 06, 2005 7:23 pm
| Sappharad wrote: |
| FourScience wrote: | | did you ever hear about the Gamecube discs spinning backwards |
Gamecube discs do NOT spin backwards. They are encrypted. |
GameCube discs are burned from the outside to the inside, unlike normal discs that are burned from inside to outside. Also the Discs are encrypted, that's right. Any normal PC is not able to read or copy a 'Cube disc, this was the main purpose of Nintendo to prevent hacking and roms etc. But there happin to be this bug in Phantasy star Online wich made streaming possible from PC to GC or GC to PC.
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#47254 - Sappharad - Wed Jul 06, 2005 8:42 pm
| G-Pjube wrote: |
| GameCube discs are burned from the outside to the inside, unlike normal discs that are burned from inside to outside. |
No they're not.
And I don't really feel bad about going off topic, since this thread was a troll anyway.
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#47282 - tepples - Thu Jul 07, 2005 1:00 am
| G-Pjube wrote: |
| GameCube discs are burned from the outside to the inside, unlike normal discs that are burned from inside to outside. |
So is layer 2 of a standard DVD-ROM.
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#47284 - rize - Thu Jul 07, 2005 1:17 am
ok, are cube disks burned from the outside in or not?
it would make since because it has a CAV drive and the outside of the drive would give faster read speeds (I think the range is 3.2 MB to 2 MB)
#47286 - FourScience - Thu Jul 07, 2005 1:49 am
Hahaha, this thread is SO hijacked!
Thanks for the corrections. I wasn't sure myself, that's why I said "did you ever hear" and not "this is how it is." It seems we'd rather go back and forth about the nature of Gamecube discs than respond to this guy's outcry about our good behavior. Funny, funny!
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#47289 - Sappharad - Thu Jul 07, 2005 2:30 am
| rize wrote: |
| ok, are cube disks burned from the outside in or not? |
Commerical games get pressed from a glass master. (Erm, at least I think it's glass, correct me if I'm wrong and they actually use something else)
Therefore, all of the data is written at once.
Recordable discs get burned. If you're burning something for GC, such as a disc full of files that would be readable by GC linux, it's burned in the same way you burn any other disc on your PC, from the inside to the outside. I don't believe you can get a firmware upgrade for any drive to do the opposite.
Likewise, the gamecube reads ANY disc, official or not, from the inside to the outside, like any normal DVD drive.
Needless to say, I have no idea which way the copies that are made into the masters for pressing are burned, however I don't think it's very likely that they would burn a copy to be used in creating a master the opposite way that the drive reads the disc. Unless someone here works for one of the pressing plants that manufactures GC discs, or Datel (since they produce their own GC compatible discs) I guess you'll really never know.
I dont know of any evidence proving that the discs are recording from the outside in, especially since it contradicts how the GC reads the actual disc.
#47290 - The 9th Sage - Thu Jul 07, 2005 2:43 am
| Sappharad wrote: |
| or Datel (since they produce their own GC compatible discs) I guess you'll really never know. |
Hm, well, if you're ever looked at the data on a Datel disk...apparently it has something do with some kind of NHL Hockey game. I have a feeling they aren't QUITE kosher with how they made their unlicensed discs. :)
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#47305 - TJ - Thu Jul 07, 2005 4:20 am
I am amazed that after all this time, people still think the GC discs spin backwards.
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| Commerical games get pressed from a glass master. (Erm, at least I think it's glass, correct me if I'm wrong and they actually use something else) |
As far as I know, masters are made of solid nickel. At least, they are for CD-ROMs. I don't know if DVD-ROM requires a different material for the masters.
It has to be a material hard enough to withstand slamming into the blank discs and imprinting the pits a few hundred times (if I recall correctly, the masters have to be replaced fairly quickly, since they get damaged so much during pressing).
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#47307 - Dwedit - Thu Jul 07, 2005 4:26 am
Yeah, well some people still also believe that NES resolution is 256x224.
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#47315 - Jsm - Thu Jul 07, 2005 5:30 am
what the fuck is wtf?
#47318 - FluBBa - Thu Jul 07, 2005 8:43 am
You sir, are correct.
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#47324 - tepples - Thu Jul 07, 2005 2:47 pm
| Dwedit wrote: |
| Yeah, well some people still also believe that NES resolution is 256x224. |
They're correct under a definition of pixel that treats everything drawn in NTSC's overscan as "video noise". In fact, a lot of games such as Astyanax and Super C have garbage in the overscan areas, even on NES hardware. They're also correct for those games that turn off the screen early to create more vblank time.
Hmm, locked just when it was about to get interesting... Split.
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#47506 - Abscissa - Sat Jul 09, 2005 10:03 pm
| Jsm wrote: |
| what the fuck is wtf? |
Exactly!
Ha ha ha! Not making fun of you, but man, that's real irony ;)