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OffTopic > RapidShare inaccessibility

#70245 - tepples - Sun Feb 05, 2006 3:35 am

Xtreme wrote:
It's a download site. You need to left click it and give a password (shown in the screen) to download it.

Then it's 1. invalid HTML (the img element is missing an alt attribute) and 2. not accessible to people with visual disabilities. Please use a service other than rapidshare.
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Last edited by tepples on Sun Feb 05, 2006 8:54 pm; edited 1 time in total

#70299 - CPColin - Sun Feb 05, 2006 9:33 am

tepples wrote:
Xtreme wrote:
It's a download site. You need to left click it and give a password (shown in the screen) to download it.

Then it's 1. invalid HTML (the img element is missing an alt attribute) and 2. not accessible to people with visual disabilities. Please use a service other than rapidshare.


Heaven forbid we keep blind people from using custom MoonShell skins.

#70303 - linus - Sun Feb 05, 2006 10:44 am

not meaning to plug but yousendit.com is much better, im always annoyed when people use rapidshare...

ps 991 is out

#70306 - MaHe - Sun Feb 05, 2006 11:07 am

tepples wrote:
Xtreme wrote:
It's a download site. You need to left click it and give a password (shown in the screen) to download it.

Then it's 1. invalid HTML (the img element is missing an alt attribute) and 2. not accessible to people with visual disabilities. Please use a service other than rapidshare.


It's very nice of you, but why are you so much bothered by the websites that disable the blind from surfing on them? Are you one?

#70329 - tepples - Sun Feb 05, 2006 6:00 pm

CPColin wrote:
Heaven forbid we keep relatives and friends of blind people from using custom MoonShell skins.

Fixed. Just because a work can't be perceived by a given user with disabilities doesn't mean that the user shouldn't be allowed to look for information to pass on to people who can.

I'm not blind, but for a while my only Internet access was through a text-mode browser. First I used Lynx then w3m. My stepmother also has a very good friend who happened to have lost her vision, and I tried to help her learn to use CompuServe but Window-Eyes screen reader software couldn't read the graphical buttons that the CompuServe client used. (It would say "Graphic Graphic Graphic Graphic" or the like.) I've had a vendetta against CAPTCHA ever since AltaVista installed it for the Add URL page, and the fact that W3C agrees with me just cemented this.

...and now back to the show.
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#70330 - Mr. Picklesworth - Sun Feb 05, 2006 6:17 pm

Besides, colour blind people have trouble with those things as well.
That's probably one of the reasons why most are just black and white.

May it be known, by the way, that the Microsoft Document Imager can often recognize the numbers in those security things at rapidshare.


Oh, and uhm... enjoy your new web space!
I got my own web host instead of using file download sites and have never looked back :)
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#70332 - tuLL - Sun Feb 05, 2006 6:27 pm

tepples wrote:
Xtreme wrote:
It's a download site. You need to left click it and give a password (shown in the screen) to download it.

Then it's 1. invalid HTML (the img element is missing an alt attribute) and 2. not accessible to people with visual disabilities. Please use a service other than rapidshare.


tepples, and alt attribute to the password picture would just invalidate the whole picture/password/anti-spiders idea, wouldn't it?

w3 wrote:
For example, spammers can pay a programmer to aggregate these images and feed them one by one to a human operator, who could easily verify hundreds of them each hour.


To download a skin? Don't think so. :|

And it doesn't have the:

Code:
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">


That for example this forum has, so they are not claiming full compatibility.

#70342 - tepples - Sun Feb 05, 2006 8:14 pm

Darkflame wrote:
The many should try to make lives easier for the few, and sometimes that means not using services that dont catter for those few.

I agree. (Pasted here because phpBB won't let me split individual posts.)

tuLL wrote:
tepples, and alt attribute to the password picture would just invalidate the whole picture/password/anti-spiders idea, wouldn't it?

Which is exactly the point. There are other ways to exclude harmful robots that don't exclude users with disabilities. The point is to strictly define what behavior you want to exclude and then coding against that specific behavior.

That does it. I'm splitting this topic to the best of my ability. (I can't split individual posts that talk about both MoonShell and rapidshare, so it won't be perfect.)
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