#91400 - ThetaDot - Fri Jul 07, 2006 12:06 am
running retawq in DSlinux. sorry for the spam I just had to try :[
#91401 - Kvasir - Fri Jul 07, 2006 12:11 am
Congratulations!
#91407 - Mr. Picklesworth - Fri Jul 07, 2006 12:55 am
:(
Why, Linksys?
Why have you forsaken me?!!!!!!!!
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#91408 - Kvasir - Fri Jul 07, 2006 12:57 am
Linksys? Having troubles with your router and DS? which model?
#91414 - Mr. Picklesworth - Fri Jul 07, 2006 2:24 am
WRT54g v5. (The VXWorks and only VXWorks one).
It's known to be a pain in the arse, but I'm trying to be patient for the day that DS homebrew talks to it. (Official stuff works fine).
As you can imagine, my patience is wearing thin...
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#91415 - Madrigal - Fri Jul 07, 2006 2:32 am
I guess it's just me, but DS Linix seems really dumb to me. The idea of typing commands using an on-screen keyboard to do every single little task isn't much fun to me. Maybe if it actually had a GUI, it would be worth using.
#91417 - HeinzHarald - Fri Jul 07, 2006 3:11 am
Dumb? There are lots and lots of open-source Linux applications ready to be DSified. And with many you don't need to type much anyway. DSlinux is most definitely very useful for some people.
#91418 - thundrestrike - Fri Jul 07, 2006 3:17 am
| HeinzHarald wrote: |
| Dumb? There are lots and lots of open-source Linux applications ready to be DSified. And with many you don't need to type much anyway. DSlinux is most definitely very useful for some people. |
I believe he is talking about Retawq being dumb (not DSLinux)
EDIT:
nevermind, lol.
I Re-read the post and yea, he said DSLinux is dumb
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#91421 - Madrigal - Fri Jul 07, 2006 3:36 am
I didn't mean it like that. Of course to some people it's cool and useful. I just meant to me it's dumb because I don't want to type out commands for every little thing on an onscreen keyboard. I actually don't even like desktop Linux because it's too complicated to do even the smallest tasks. At least it has a GUI though :P. I'd love to see a little OS built for the DS though. Maybe something built on top of MoonShell.
#91425 - The 9th Sage - Fri Jul 07, 2006 4:02 am
| Madrigal wrote: |
| I didn't mean it like that. Of course to some people it's cool and useful. I just meant to me it's dumb because I don't want to type out commands for every little thing on an onscreen keyboard. I actually don't even like desktop Linux because it's too complicated to do even the smallest tasks. At least it has a GUI though :P. I'd love to see a little OS built for the DS though. Maybe something built on top of MoonShell. |
Some of the builds for the devices capable of more...uh...memory efficiency actually do have a GUI. For example, the Supercard build has this I think since they were able to load programs into the Supercard's built in memory and run them from there, freeing up main RAM for other stuff.
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#91429 - Pinesal - Fri Jul 07, 2006 4:29 am
Are there any screen shots of this browser in action?
#91431 - Mr. Picklesworth - Fri Jul 07, 2006 5:21 am
DSLinux is the sort of utility / thing that occasionally pops up as a really great thing to have.
I believe there are a few things going on for using DSLinux as a server, and someone, ages ago, used DSLinux to control a robot.
Also, Frotz is wonderful. (I can't really play adventure games on a PC when I'm surrounded by pretty GUIs, so the DS is a good platform to do it with).
Pinesal:
Here is Pepsiman's log entry with a screenshot
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#91451 - Lynx - Fri Jul 07, 2006 6:48 am
Personally, I think DSLinux rocks.. but, keep in mind that anything that can be done on DSLinux could be done as a stand alone NDS ROM. But, it has the coolness factor, and can be very usefull as is.. like network troubleshooting, etc. Sure, a stand alone ping tool could be created.. but why? Just use DSLinux.. :)
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#91453 - freemaan - Fri Jul 07, 2006 6:53 am
| Mr. Picklesworth wrote: |
WRT54g v5. (The VXWorks and only VXWorks one).
It's known to be a pain in the arse, but I'm trying to be patient for the day that DS homebrew talks to it. (Official stuff works fine).
As you can imagine, my patience is wearing thin... |
Try this : http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Vxworkskiller
;)
#91468 - Kvasir - Fri Jul 07, 2006 10:41 am
| freemaan wrote: |
| Mr. Picklesworth wrote: | WRT54g v5. (The VXWorks and only VXWorks one).
It's known to be a pain in the arse, but I'm trying to be patient for the day that DS homebrew talks to it. (Official stuff works fine).
As you can imagine, my patience is wearing thin... |
Try this : http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Vxworkskiller
;) |
Or just update your firmware. I have a WRT54Gv5 and I have never had any problems that couldn't be solved by updating the firmware, and this includes Nintendo Wi-Fi.
And every piece of Homebrew I've tried on it so far has worked.
#91469 - Harakiri - Fri Jul 07, 2006 10:51 am
mhh funny that newer versions dont work - i have WRT54G with firmware 3.01 worked flaweless
#91510 - Mr. Picklesworth - Fri Jul 07, 2006 5:38 pm
Harakiri:
Linksys decided, in a move of shear genius, that their router version 5 was going to stop using a Linux-based firmware.
Not only did they switch to a horrible closed firmware, but they also crippled the thing's hardware so that, even after someone hacks it, there's no room to do anything with it.
The problem here is that the only reason their original routers became so popular as mainstream routers is because people could write new firmwares for them, effectively turning an $80 router into the equivalent of a $200 router. (Firmware makes quite a difference here).
They did release a Linux version for about $10 more, but, since the VXWorks version is produced in greater quantity and costs $10 less, it is troublesome to find it.
Thanks, Kvasir!
I'll see if there's a new firmware version out.
May I ask what other settings you have on yours?
Freeman:
I was thinking about the VXWorks Killer when it came out, but the only thing that runs on there at the moment, due to RAM and space constraints, lacks UPNP.
I hear it's a lot more stable, though. (This VXWorks firmware is noticeably unstable; I am constantly having to restart the router!).
Sounds like a build with uPnP is in the works, so I will check back later.
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#91519 - Sappharad - Fri Jul 07, 2006 6:53 pm
| Mr. Picklesworth wrote: |
It's known to be a pain in the arse, but I'm trying to be patient for the day that DS homebrew talks to it. (Official stuff works fine).
As you can imagine, my patience is wearing thin... |
Make sure SSID Broadcast is enabled. I've got a WRT54G v2 and a WRTSL54GS, both won't work the lib unless SSID broadcast is enabled.
(Which is also why I refuse to use it right now...)
#91522 - Mr. Picklesworth - Fri Jul 07, 2006 7:05 pm
SSID broadcast is enabled and I tried with WEP off for my entire attempt today, to no avail.
Today's firmware version is v1.00.9.
EEEK!
Now I'm scared.
It works :)
I decided to backup and restore factory defaults.
So I did that, it worked flawlessly, then I put in the old settings to work backwards... and it worked from the start.
So I guess the firmware upgrade helped, but it needed to be shaken around a little.
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#91523 - Kvasir - Fri Jul 07, 2006 7:07 pm
| Mr. Picklesworth wrote: |
May I ask what other settings you have on yours?
|
sure.
Linksys WRT54Gv5 / Firmware Version: v1.00.9
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SETUP
[BASIC SETUP TAB]
(First box set to Automatic Configuration - DHCP)
Router Name - (Routername)
Host Name - (I left it blank)
Domain Name - (My ISP's domain name)
MTU - Manual
Size - 1500
Local IP Address - 192.168.1.xxx
Subnet Mask - 255.255.255.0
DHCP Server - Enable
Starting IP Address - 192.168.1.100
Maximum number of DHCP users - 10
Client Lease Time - 0
Static DNS 1 - (Left blank)
Static DNS 2 - (Left blank)
Static DNS 3 - (Left blank)
WINS - (Left blank)
[DDNS TAB]
DDNS Service - Disabled
[MAC ADDRESS CLONE TAB]
(I left this as it was defaulted to)
[ADVANCED ROUTING TAB]
(I left this as it was defaulted to)
WIRELESS
[BASIC WIRELESS SETTINGS TAB]
Wireless Network Mode - Mixed
Wireless Network Name (SSID) - LINKSYS (kidding!)
Wireless Channel - 11
Wireless SSID Broadcast - Enabled
[WIRELESS SECURITY]
Security Mode - WEP
Defualt Transmit Key - 1
WEP Encryption - 128bits 26 Hex digits
Passphrase - (Passphrase)
Key 1 - (Key it generated after entering the passphrase)
Key 2 - (Left blank)
Key 3 - (Left blank)
Key 4 - (Left blank)
[WIRELESS MAC FILTER]
Wireless MAC Filter - Disabled
[ADVANCED WIRELESS SETTINGS]
(I left everything on this page as it was by default)
SECURITY
[FIREWALL]
Block Anonymous Internet Requests - Unchecked
Filter Multicast - Unchecked
Filter Internet NAT Redirection - Unchecked
Filter IDENT(Port 113) - Unchecked
[VPN]
IPSec Passthrough - Enabled
PPTP Passthrough - Enabled
L2TP Passthrough - Enabled
ACCESS RESTRICTIONS
(Didn't touch this page)
APPLICATIONS AND GAMING
(No ports are currently being forwarded to my DS nor is it DMZ enabled. I'm currently not using my DS to play Wi-Fi games but it is able to go online with retawq in DSLinux and via the Homebrew Database in DSOrganize)
ADMINISTRATION AND STATUS
(Nothing DS centric here)
---------------------------------------------------------------
My DS has a static IP given to it of 192.168.1.109 and the DNS entries provided by the status tab, Subnet Mask, and Gateway (see Local IP Address above) are entered manually as well.
With this set up I am able to get a working wi-fi connection.
And yes, I took some liberties in the security of my network, such as:
DHCP - Need it for other family members ("WHY CAN'T I ACCESS THE INTERNET!?", etc.)
Wireless Network Mode - have 802.11b adapters still being used
Wireless SSID broadcast - again, family members ("WHY CAN'T I CONNECT?!", "WHERE IS THE ROUTER ON THIS LIST?!", etc.)
Wireless MAC Filtering - one of the 802.11b adapters doesn't play nice with it (Netgear MA101)
So you don't really need to emulate what I've done in regards to the above :P (And yes I have a very strong firewall set up for the whole network in regards to the Security section of the setup).
#91525 - Mr. Picklesworth - Fri Jul 07, 2006 7:16 pm
Thanks, Kvasir!
I don't trust this magically working setup here, so I will use yours :)
(Now... how to repay you for all that typing...)
I have a lot of catching up to do now!
This is like my birthday!! :D
First thing I tried was Beup and... forget regular MSN; I'm using this thing from now on, PC or not.
I've been dreaming of this moment for the last year.
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#91528 - Kvasir - Fri Jul 07, 2006 7:24 pm
| Mr. Picklesworth wrote: |
Thanks, Kvasir!
I don't trust this magically working setup here, so I will use yours :)
(Now... how to repay you for all that typing...)
I have a lot of catching up to do now!
This is like my birthday!! :D
First thing I tried was Beup and... forget regular MSN; I'm using this thing from now on, PC or not. |
I loves me some Beup. So it works?
edit: XD I didn't see that you posted again right before I posted my settings! I was like "repay? what does he need to repay me fo....ohhhhh")
#91530 - Mr. Picklesworth - Fri Jul 07, 2006 7:39 pm
Okay, I'm viewing these very forums through DSLinux :)
Now, ThetaDot: How did you manage to log in?
Right now, I'm getting a Redirection Problem message when I try to log in, and I can't comprehend how to get past it...
(Then, trying to reload, the process was killed. Ah well... some other time).
Edit:
Oh, of course. This thread was created before the extra browsing restrictions were added :(
Retawq doesn't much like Google's login stuff, either... unfortunately.
Is DSOrganize compiled with the previous Wifi lib or something? It isn't connecting at all...
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#91540 - ThetaDot - Fri Jul 07, 2006 9:10 pm
Hey,
I created this thread just yesterday so it's definately possible!
The trick (as far as I know) is to force load the page as html. Most web-board stuff is PHP, so this is essential.
So when you put your user/pass in and hit login, and then get sent to a page where you get the error, force it to load the page as HTML (I think the key is capital H), and then it 'r' to reload the page. That's how I did it on numerous forums.
#91541 - dualscreenman - Fri Jul 07, 2006 9:15 pm
With retawq, after I got the redirection error I just hit back and reloaded the page.
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#91544 - Kvasir - Fri Jul 07, 2006 9:18 pm
| Mr. Picklesworth wrote: |
Retawq doesn't much like Google's login stuff, either... unfortunately.
|
Use NDSMail, it supports SSL now (I can log into my Gmail account now)
| Mr. Picklesworth wrote: |
Is DSOrganize compiled with the previous Wifi lib or something? It isn't connecting at all...
|
just tried it on mine and it seemed to work okay. (I'm using a SuperCard SD if that makes any sort of difference)
#91545 - ThetaDot - Fri Jul 07, 2006 9:35 pm
DSOrganize Uses Wifi???
#91546 - Kvasir - Fri Jul 07, 2006 9:39 pm
It can connect to the Homebrew Database and you can download homebrew apps and games to your DS.
#91547 - ThetaDot - Fri Jul 07, 2006 9:42 pm
I had no idea it could do that. I see nothing in it that looks like it even relates to Wifi. Where is it located?
#91551 - Kvasir - Fri Jul 07, 2006 9:50 pm
its on the second page of the home menu, at the bottom.
#91554 - Mr. Picklesworth - Fri Jul 07, 2006 9:56 pm
DSOrganize's Wifi stuff is at the bottom of the screen in the second page of applications. (Same place as Configure in the previous page)
I don't know why it isn't listed like the others.
It also can run Shoutcasts (.pls) in the same way as regular audio stuff. (Through the File Browser).
Thanks for the Retawq help!
Not getting very far due to RAM limits, but I think there is a history memory option somewhere that I could change.
It was a beautifully clean crash, though. The DSLinux developers have really improved that with the recent builds; All the out of memory crashes are cleanly killing the running process without any restart required.
Kvasir:
I'm having trouble connecting to GMail via NDSMail. (RSS Feeds work fine, though, so it's not the wifi lib).
It hangs on wait_hello, then I get Error 113.
My config is:
That is:
Pop3 Server: pop.gmail.com
Pop3 Port: 995
Pop3 User: myaccount@gmail.com
Pop3 Password: biggestpasswordever
SMTP Server: smtp.gmail.com
Weird box beside SMTP server that I assume is SMTP Port: 465
E-Mail Address: myaccount@gmail.com
Display Name: Dylan McCall
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#91555 - tyrel2000 - Fri Jul 07, 2006 10:08 pm
Posted from retawq in dslinux :P Thanks for the tip about refreshing as html! I would never have figured it out on my own :)
#91557 - Kvasir - Fri Jul 07, 2006 10:49 pm
| Mr. Picklesworth wrote: |
It also can run Shoutcasts (.pls) in the same way as regular audio stuff. (Through the File Browser).
|
You just paid me back because I did NOT know that! :D
| Mr. Picklesworth wrote: |
Kvasir:
I'm having trouble connecting to GMail via NDSMail. (RSS Feeds work fine, though, so it's not the wifi lib).
It hangs on wait_hello, then I get Error 113.
My config is:
That is:
Pop3 Server: pop.gmail.com
Pop3 Port: 995
Pop3 User: myaccount@gmail.com
Pop3 Password: biggestpasswordever
SMTP Server: smtp.gmail.com
Weird box beside SMTP server that I assume is SMTP Port: 465
E-Mail Address: myaccount@gmail.com
Display Name: Dylan McCall |
| http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=13287 wrote: |
Did you click 'Save Changes' after enabling POP in Gmail? |
#91562 - tepples - Fri Jul 07, 2006 11:10 pm
But can one register for the forum using retawq?
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#91563 - ThetaDot - Fri Jul 07, 2006 11:11 pm
Ha! I must be blind. I NEVER noticed that before. Thanks.
#91574 - Nushio - Sat Jul 08, 2006 12:05 am
| tepples wrote: |
| But can one register for the forum using retawq? |
Doubt it. Those nasty captchas!
#91587 - Mr. Picklesworth - Sat Jul 08, 2006 1:23 am
My GMail account is set up for POP, and ThunderBird talks to it fine.
I'll let that one sit for a while I think; lots of stuff to do already.
Teehee! This is the first time my DS has become noticeably warmer from running software. I'm taking that as a good sign :)
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#92129 - Liter - Tue Jul 11, 2006 6:37 pm
I wish *I* could post a message from my DS. :(
My DS works just fine across the 'net within games and I can play against other people (with Tetris DS for example).
Using DS2Key (doubles as a WiFi sniffer, etc) I can ping other Internet addresses, no problem.
However, using DSLinux *with the exact same settings as used by the software mentioned above* it simply won't ping anything *other than* the router (a revision 1 Linksys WAG54G).
This has me puzzled as the DNS is correct and it's using the stored WiFi settings (although entering the settings manually makes no difference).
Anyone else come across this particular problem before? It's driving me nuts.
#92140 - Liter - Tue Jul 11, 2006 7:53 pm
I hate to keep replying to my own messages, but what the heck ....... :)
Just found something interesting - from DSLinux, if I ping, say, www.microsoft.com then I get the "no response from" error, however I've noticed that with addresses that have aliases (such as microsoft.com) the error refers to the alias, in this case lb1.www.ms.akadns.net
This says to me that DNS *IS* working correctly (after all, it's resolved microsoft.com to its alias, something which isn't stored on the DS - or could it be stored on the router???), but if so then something is blocking the return confirmation of the ping (or somesuch).
Does anyone agree?
If so, then why does ping work fine in DS2Key and WiFi games connect okay?
#92142 - Mr. Picklesworth - Tue Jul 11, 2006 7:58 pm
Now that is weird!
Sounds like your router itself has some settings that won't let your DS access the Internet, but that wouldn't make sense.
Have you tried pinging IPs, instead of domain names?
(eg: Google is 66.102.7.99)
Are you using a static IP or DHCP?
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#92143 - Liter - Tue Jul 11, 2006 8:09 pm
| Mr. Picklesworth wrote: |
| Now that is weird! |
You're telling me! :)
| Quote: |
| Sounds like your router itself has some settings that won't let your DS access the Internet, but that wouldn't make sense. |
Indeed, especially considering that DS2Key and WiFi cartridge games work just fine.
| Quote: |
Have you tried pinging IPs, instead of domain names?
(eg: Google is 66.102.7.99) |
Yup, I just get the standard "no response from" error
| Quote: |
| Are you using a static IP or DHCP? |
My router is set up for DHCP but DHCP won't work with my router and DS - so I'm using a manually assigned IP address from *outside* the allocated DHCP range.
#92162 - ThetaDot - Tue Jul 11, 2006 10:21 pm
I followed this page: http://www.dslinux.org/wiki/Using_DSLinux#Wireless_Networking
to get it working. I could ping the router and everything but couldn't ping anything past it, because I forgot the "route add default gw 192.168.1.1" line.
Maybe that's your same problem too?
#92163 - Liter - Tue Jul 11, 2006 10:32 pm
Thanks for the suggestion but I've done that and no luck. :(
The fact that it's resolving any aliases from the pinged address indicates that the DNS is working, but only up to a point - for some reason something is then being 'lost'/not reaching my DS, but only when running DSLinux (I've now tried DSOrganize and that works perfectly too).
#92166 - Mr. Picklesworth - Tue Jul 11, 2006 10:44 pm
DSLinux is funny with that stuff...
How are you configuring your wireless in there at the moment?
There is a variable you can add to the rc.conf file which will get it to use your NWFC settings to connect.
That variable is wfc_config, which you can set = to whichever slot has the configuration you wish to use.
If that is what you are doing, try setting it manually. (I, for one, was inexplicably unable to connect with that).
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#92168 - Liter - Tue Jul 11, 2006 10:49 pm
| Mr. Picklesworth wrote: |
| DSLinux is funny with that stuff... |
Can't argue with you there! :)
| Quote: |
How are you configuring your wireless in there at the moment?
There is a variable you can add to the rc.conf file which will get it to use your NWFC settings to connect.
That variable is wfc_config, which you can set = to whichever slot has the configuration you wish to use.
If that is what you are doing, try setting it manually. (I, for one, was inexplicably unable to connect with that). |
Have tried using the wfc_config setting and alternatively setting it manually but still no luck. :(
When is the next release of DSLinux due out? ;)
#92174 - dualscreenman - Tue Jul 11, 2006 11:10 pm
They have nightly builds... So any time a change is made, the builds change. There are no "releases".
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| What about Gaim DS? Gaim pretty much has support for all IM programs. |
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| "Goshdammit, the DS is not a Gaim-boy! It's a third pillar!" |
#92177 - Liter - Tue Jul 11, 2006 11:18 pm
Thanks - just got the latest build from here:
http://page.mi.fu-berlin.de/~sperling/dslinux/builds/
But the problem remains.
#92183 - dualscreenman - Tue Jul 11, 2006 11:45 pm
Ah, they're pretty much done working with WiFi unless some bugs come up.
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| What about Gaim DS? Gaim pretty much has support for all IM programs. |
| tepples wrote: |
| "Goshdammit, the DS is not a Gaim-boy! It's a third pillar!" |
#92242 - Liter - Wed Jul 12, 2006 8:45 am
| dualscreenman wrote: |
| Ah, they're pretty much done working with WiFi unless some bugs come up. |
Perhaps I've found one?
#92344 - JAKETHESNAKE - Wed Jul 12, 2006 11:45 pm
whoo hooo i did it to and i am using the supercardsd build my mail is jakesdsmail@bluebottle.com if you need any questions
#92347 - Liter - Thu Jul 13, 2006 12:00 am
Have now found it's a problem with 'Ping' - if I go into the Retawq browser then I can access sites just fine.
Weird huh?