#92432 - Vasco - Thu Jul 13, 2006 3:38 pm
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This is going to be the General SuperSmashBrothersDS Topic, so please dont post on the other Topics or make new ones...
The project is only in the Beginning, but maybe, in a few days or weeks, we will be more and more advanced ; )
People working in the project:.
Main Coder ---? DsHacker
Main Spriter and Helper ---? Vasco
Intro Maker and Sound Getter ---? Clone Dad
Main Helper, Gets Sounds and Images ---? HtheB
Main Helper, and Tester ---? Shaz
Main Sounds Getter ---? Jester
Main Page Maker ---? Alucard258
Administrators of the Project:.
DsHacker ---? Main Admin
Vasco ---? Sub Admin
We need:.
---? A Site Creator
---? Someone that knows how to Code for the DS
---? An Hoster for the Site
---? Someone to make a Screen for the Menu
---? Someone to get all the SSBM Character Sounds, not the Music
DevKits:.
We are going to send the DevKits to anyone that wants to help us out, with sounds, music, sprites, etc...
First DevKit ---? Has all the Sprites we have, All the Maps, and All the Menus Sprites we have ---? Send PM to receive the DevKit.
Second DevKit ---? Has all the music, sounds we could get, and has the SSBM Intro, so anyone can use it, to make the SSB DS Intro xD ---? Send PM to receive the DevKit.
Something about the Project, please post it here !
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#92433 - Linkiboy - Thu Jul 13, 2006 3:43 pm
Wow... I really can't wait for the demo!
#92434 - thundrestrike - Thu Jul 13, 2006 3:45 pm
Are you guys going all the way with this homebrew?
What exactly will this have in the future?
P.S. - I also can't wait to test :)
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#92436 - Vasco - Thu Jul 13, 2006 3:50 pm
(Dream Mode On) ...I think we can only wish the Sky... (Dream Mode Off)
Seriously, i think we can do something here, we only need help, Nds Scene always wanted a SSB DS homebrew... so where are they now ?
If we can get more coders, testers and that stuff, we can do what we want, but the main thing is that we want to test where we can get with the first demo...
#92437 - gm112 - Thu Jul 13, 2006 3:52 pm
I'll test!
edit: I'm currently learning how to program so possibly when I'm ready your still in development in this game.
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#92438 - Tisti - Thu Jul 13, 2006 3:54 pm
Hell.. A SSB game on the DS. A dream come true :D The community will start to pick up on it...
As for the coding part, I'd love to help with that too, but imho I still don't know enough C/C++ and I lack experience.
#92439 - dualscreenman - Thu Jul 13, 2006 3:58 pm
If you need somebody to test, I'm available. I have a standard flashcard with a flashed DS.
I also know HTML and CSS.
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#92442 - Vasco - Thu Jul 13, 2006 4:08 pm
The Testing thing will be for 10 people isntead of 5 ;)
As for DualScreenMan Could you make us a page ? with a little forum ? something basic... Thanks
3 More people to test the game at first...be fast eheheh
#92445 - clone dad - Thu Jul 13, 2006 4:13 pm
I could do flash work for the web site. or, i could build teh whole site with flash.
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#92446 - derula - Thu Jul 13, 2006 4:14 pm
If somebody is good @ making designs (I'm good at HTML & CMS, but not @ designing) I could set you up a homepage based on my own CMS. You could then administrate the homepage by yourself, since all the content will lie in .txt files (screenshot galleries are also very easy to do). PM me if you're interested ;) (I would also host it for you)
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#92447 - Vasco - Thu Jul 13, 2006 4:15 pm
Clone Dad, maybe you could work with DualScreenMan ? You two seem to know, some things about CSS,Php and Htlm...
#92448 - Goldeneye - Thu Jul 13, 2006 4:15 pm
If that one last spot is still there, i'll gladly try it on the G6 :)
#92449 - Vasco - Thu Jul 13, 2006 4:18 pm
yes...
And could someone make a Image for the Menu ? and a small video (amv) for the intro ? based on SSBM obviously..
#92450 - clone dad - Thu Jul 13, 2006 4:19 pm
I could also put my php shoutbox for the site. heres a sample of what i made: http://members.lycos.co.uk/thebestkeptone/main-say.html
it also logs the posters ip address on a different page.
*edit*
vasco, i might be able to do the intro video in flash.
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#92452 - knight0fdragon - Thu Jul 13, 2006 4:21 pm
i can find time to test your stuff and make suggestions
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#92455 - Vasco - Thu Jul 13, 2006 4:25 pm
knight0fdragon sorry, but there were only 10 testers that we needed...
but if the testers dont see any bugs, the game will be public on the same day xD
On another hand, We now have an Intro maker ; ) Clone Dad (not my dad actually)...
We need a Screen for the Menu... someone wants to make it ?
#92456 - HtheB - Thu Jul 13, 2006 4:27 pm
| Vasco wrote: |
knight0fdragon sorry, but there were only 10 testers that we needed...
but if the testers dont see any bugs, the game will be public on the same day xD
On another hand, We now have an Intro maker ; ) Clone Dad (not my dad actually)...
We need a Screen for the Menu... someone wants to make it ? |
check pm :)
#92457 - Vasco - Thu Jul 13, 2006 4:29 pm
OH MY GOD i dont believe we already have this many posts...
Maybe i should increase the number of testers to 20 ? ok ok
#92459 - thundrestrike - Thu Jul 13, 2006 4:31 pm
dude if you are gonna raise it to 20 you might as well release it to the public instead -.-
keep it at 10 and let us test soon :D
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#92460 - Vasco - Thu Jul 13, 2006 4:33 pm
15 and no more talk about it xDDDDDDDD
#92461 - thundrestrike - Thu Jul 13, 2006 4:36 pm
....................its your project, but still... keep it simple at 10 (?) whatever..
either way, when do we get to test :D
i have been excited for the past hour, please send it soon :D :D
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#92462 - Vasco - Thu Jul 13, 2006 4:37 pm
We still have to wait for DsHacker to end his coding, cause he doesnt have anyone to help him on coding.. SOMEONE PLEASE WANT TO HELP ?
We need someone to get the sounds of all characters from SSBM, not the songs, but the sounds..
#92463 - ?hr - Thu Jul 13, 2006 4:39 pm
testing is cool! may i become a tester?
i have a gbamp cf and a m3 cf. maybe later a m3 sd, but i cant tell you when...
#92466 - Vasco - Thu Jul 13, 2006 4:48 pm
Too many people are sending me PM?s, please i cant awnser them all, when i receive them, wait some time, im trying to reply all of them, but its much work we have on the Team now...
So did the Page Makers, already decided if they are going to work together or not ?
#92468 - clone dad - Thu Jul 13, 2006 4:55 pm
hmm. I'm listed as a tester on the first page, but i don't have a nopass yet, so i can't do it. i would if i could.
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#92469 - Vasco - Thu Jul 13, 2006 5:01 pm
OK !
The First DevKit is already done, and to download it, you only need to PM to me...
#92470 - D-loader - Thu Jul 13, 2006 5:12 pm
Nice seeing progress so fast =)
Can't wait to test either ^^ *pms*
#92471 - thundrestrike - Thu Jul 13, 2006 5:14 pm
pm'd,
ill test and report any bugs
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#92473 - gm112 - Thu Jul 13, 2006 5:17 pm
pmed and got a nice response! Can't wait to test and find them damn bugs!
#92474 - Tisti - Thu Jul 13, 2006 5:19 pm
Damn, things are moving fast.. Pmed :)
#92476 - Vasco - Thu Jul 13, 2006 5:25 pm
The DevKits are only the Sprites, Maps, Sounds, Menus, Objects, we could gather untill now, the download of the pack is for people that want to sneak a view to see what characters and that stuff will be in, and for adding some things to the Pack...
If someone Adds something to the DevKit, PM me with the Updates on a different .Rar or .Zip.
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#92478 - D-loader - Thu Jul 13, 2006 5:26 pm
is this a PA_lib project, or is it LibNDS? .. the last Super Smasbrothers project was a PA_lib project, meaning it was quite limited.
#92480 - Vasco - Thu Jul 13, 2006 5:28 pm
I dont know, only DsHacker knows... But PLEASE dont PM him, he already has too much work on it...
But leave the suggestion on the topic, so he can see it...
#92483 - outphase - Thu Jul 13, 2006 5:32 pm
I have a G6 lite if you need a tester that doesn't use external memory
#92485 - Vasco - Thu Jul 13, 2006 5:37 pm
We were thinking and there will not be testers....WE DONT LIKE YOU ! MUAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAAH
Kidding, it will be PUBLIC But first im testing it with Shaz ; )
DsHacker Orders...but i think this is better !
#92488 - dshacker - Thu Jul 13, 2006 5:40 pm
Some of the guys are posting off-topic stuff in here. Like I have a G6flash or w/e. Please just stay on-topic. And as for me I'm still working. I need to add the sprites individully. Then be able to make em jump. I still have some coding to do. But can everyone wait for untill I'm done.
#92491 - dualscreenman - Thu Jul 13, 2006 5:44 pm
One thing new projects need to learn is... everybody wants to test, nobody wants to code. ;-)
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#92494 - Vasco - Thu Jul 13, 2006 5:47 pm
Lol....Sad but True...but its not a problem for now...
#92498 - dshacker - Thu Jul 13, 2006 5:58 pm
Yes I know how to program now. So I dont need another coder. I'm fine. Anyways, I'm almost done the demo. There's only going to be 2 sprites in the game. Link and Mario for now. Untill I add more people.
#92500 - Vasco - Thu Jul 13, 2006 6:02 pm
DsHacker what Mario are you using ? the one that has luigi on the same image or the other ? use the other... pleaseee the one that has the two characters on one sprite is sooo bad...
#92502 - thundrestrike - Thu Jul 13, 2006 6:04 pm
can't wait until this is released,
DsHacker, what will be added in the future of this project?
for example-
how many characters?
multiplayer (wifi)? (DS--> access point <-- DS [ i know that local multiplayer doesnt work yet])
just curious, because this project sounds promising
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#92505 - dshacker - Thu Jul 13, 2006 6:13 pm
Well w/e I find the best in the sprites. and now I'm changing the character to Kirby vs. mario or kirby vs. dark kirby. I have to see. As for the wifi protocool, that will be added if I can find the source or something to the protocool. Eventully this will be a LAN game also. As for the ds download play will probally not be supported for the game. And yes find wifi AP, has to be a compatible wifi access point for Nintendo since I'm not going to go further into wifi access points. Sorry, but thats how it is. Anyways, the thing is, I'll probally realese the wifi componet with the game if there's no bugs in the demo when it's realeased.
#92506 - thundrestrike - Thu Jul 13, 2006 6:22 pm
nice.
any news on a release?
im so excited about smashbros on DS :)
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#92509 - Vasco - Thu Jul 13, 2006 6:29 pm
i Made some changes to the FourSide Map...
here it is.. change the old one to this please...
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GBADEV xD POWNS THE OTHER FORUMS !
#92512 - thundrestrike - Thu Jul 13, 2006 6:39 pm
yay the official GBA DEV tower of pwnage xD
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#92515 - Vasco - Thu Jul 13, 2006 7:04 pm
#92517 - Alucard258 - Thu Jul 13, 2006 7:08 pm
I might be able to help with getting a site and hosting. Might.
I can however, definitley make a menu if you still need it. Just tell me what you want on it.
#92518 - dshacker - Thu Jul 13, 2006 7:09 pm
I'm only going to use one map for the demo, and some of the maps I cant edit for resizing. because they're not PNG files. SO if I could get some later from you, that would be great.
#92519 - mrsaturn - Thu Jul 13, 2006 7:15 pm
I can provide hosting and help you set up a site. Check out
http://ls5.cydonianknight.com, that is the one I did for LS5's BatchDPG.
#92520 - Vasco - Thu Jul 13, 2006 7:19 pm
sorry Linkiboy is already going to host us...
#92521 - Vasco - Thu Jul 13, 2006 7:20 pm
Alucard258 please ? yes we would need one... something like the gamecube SSBM one..
#92522 - Alucard258 - Thu Jul 13, 2006 7:23 pm
| Vasco wrote: |
| Alucard258 please ? yes we would need one... something like the gamecube SSBM one.. |
Little more info?
What menus options should there be? Single player, multiplayer, and that stuff.
#92523 - Vasco - Thu Jul 13, 2006 7:24 pm
I dont know that stuff.. hmm make them with no text inside, so DsHacker can add later when he knows what to include...
#92526 - HtheB - Thu Jul 13, 2006 7:40 pm
#92528 - brennan - Thu Jul 13, 2006 7:46 pm
I can create a site depending on how complex it has to be, I can also host your files and site if need be.
EDIT: And test ;D
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#92529 - dshacker - Thu Jul 13, 2006 7:49 pm
Well I'm still working, and I'm almost done it. I need to make a make.bat file, and include it, kirby and dark kirby moves I need to make. The background has been included also, I need to make a smashds.bin file or if I just use the .nds file that I made. I need to make the some other stuff to, then I'll be done the demo.
#92532 - dshacker - Thu Jul 13, 2006 8:16 pm
I'm almost done guys, just need to add some sprites to the maps, and there movements, then add a menu.h file for access one-player mode for now. And be able to chose from being ethir dark or reg. kirby. Then compile it alltogether and bam the demos ready
#92533 - Kturbo - Thu Jul 13, 2006 8:34 pm
The shadings aer kinda wierd, think about it. The light source is not, or atleast shouldn't be, the Peach painting.
#92535 - D-loader - Thu Jul 13, 2006 8:48 pm
#92537 - Vasco - Thu Jul 13, 2006 9:00 pm
#92539 - brennan - Thu Jul 13, 2006 9:09 pm
I don't like the second, it's too bright, and it's 3d-ish. Then again, it's your game. Do what you want.
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#92540 - HtheB - Thu Jul 13, 2006 9:12 pm
| D-loader wrote: |
Oooo, nice =D |
Tnq ^_^
#92541 - dshacker - Thu Jul 13, 2006 9:13 pm
I only like the 2nd one
#92542 - gm112 - Thu Jul 13, 2006 9:13 pm
nice vasco! I'm looking more forward to this game =]
#92543 - thundrestrike - Thu Jul 13, 2006 9:17 pm
DsHacker has us on the edge of our seats :O
whens the release :D!!!
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#92545 - Vasco - Thu Jul 13, 2006 9:20 pm
Please be patiente...
We are working on it... Ill try to do more maps, and some more things...
We still need the sounds of all the characters from the SSBM.
The Songs i have them, and maybe on the second realease they be in...
#92546 - dshacker - Thu Jul 13, 2006 9:21 pm
heres my kirby card that I made for one player even though it says 2nd player. http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j33/geogoy/kirby.jpg
#92551 - brennan - Thu Jul 13, 2006 9:46 pm
http://sprites.fireball20xl.com/NSA/Sheets/flat.gif
Greatest level evar.
Fo' sho'.
EDIT: http://sprites.fireball20xl.com/NSA/Sheets/fourside.gif
Pretty cool also.
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#92553 - jester - Thu Jul 13, 2006 9:54 pm
could i join the project as the person who provides the sounds?
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#92555 - thundrestrike - Thu Jul 13, 2006 9:57 pm
someone can load ssbm in the gcn and record from the soundtest for the sounds...
Or...
(tepples, don't replace what im about to say with "yarr" because
this is only for homebrew purposes)
or you could load SSB in a n64 emulator (only do it if you have the game) and unlock the music test (which includes sounds) and use a computer sound recorder to take sounds from that. This would be the clearest way to get sounds.
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#92556 - dshacker - Thu Jul 13, 2006 9:58 pm
I allready have those maps, anyways, I'm doing other stuff right now other then working on the game. I should be done the demo by tonight or tomorow.
#92557 - Tisti - Thu Jul 13, 2006 10:06 pm
| thundrestrike wrote: |
someone can load ssbm in the gcn and record from the soundtest for the sounds...
Or...
(tepples, don't replace what im about to say with "yarr" because
this is only for homebrew purposes)
or you could load SSB in a n64 emulator (only do it if you have the game) and unlock the music test (which includes sounds) and use a computer sound recorder to take sounds from that. This would be the clearest way to get sounds. |
Copyright ;)
#92558 - Vasco - Thu Jul 13, 2006 10:10 pm
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h255/4luc4rdd/MENU.jpg
MENU Done by Alucard258
Yes jester, ill add you to the Team, if you could get all the sounds would be cool... ;)
Alucard258 is going to do another more alike the gamecube one...but use this one for the first version of the game...
someone can load ssbm in the gcn and record from the soundtest for the sounds...
| Quote: |
Or...
(tepples, don't replace what im about to say with "yarr" because
this is only for homebrew purposes)
or you could load SSB in a n64 emulator (only do it if you have the game) and unlock the music test (which includes sounds) and use a computer sound recorder to take sounds from that. This would be the clearest way to get sounds. |
But the N64 SSB doesnt have many characters that the SSBM has...
#92561 - jester - Thu Jul 13, 2006 10:28 pm
thanks for adding me to the project iam getting the sounds now!
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#92562 - Vasco - Thu Jul 13, 2006 10:41 pm
SuperSmashBrothers DS Signature... Use it on other Forums please...
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#92564 - jester - Thu Jul 13, 2006 10:56 pm
sounds 2morrow vasco!
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#92565 - Vasco - Thu Jul 13, 2006 11:02 pm
OK !
#92567 - jester - Thu Jul 13, 2006 11:06 pm
well u should employ an extra person 2 help with the sounds
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#92568 - Vasco - Thu Jul 13, 2006 11:08 pm
i wont do it today though...
We need the Super Smash Brothers Melee Intro in good quality......please can someone get it ?
#92569 - jester - Thu Jul 13, 2006 11:12 pm
its late here in the uk i need a helper! make a second sound person
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#92570 - clone dad - Thu Jul 13, 2006 11:15 pm
I could help with the music. I'm pretty good at it.
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#92571 - Vasco - Thu Jul 13, 2006 11:16 pm
Not music, just the sounds of the characters...
#92573 - clone dad - Thu Jul 13, 2006 11:31 pm
do you have music yet?
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#92574 - Vasco - Thu Jul 13, 2006 11:33 pm
Yes, but if you want and can get the Music and sounds too its OK by me ; )
Ok you are on the team too
Jester my hours are your hours, Portugal and England have the same time xD 23:34 now...
#92580 - dshacker - Fri Jul 14, 2006 12:04 am
sorry for the wait-up on the project, I was going swiming
#92582 - Linkiboy - Fri Jul 14, 2006 12:09 am
Vasco... I emailed my host and this is what I got:
Hello,
I am happy to host the project.
However i am haveing some hosting problams.
I should be able to host around next week,
Thanks.
If you want, I'll let you use my account temporarily.
#92584 - Vasco - Fri Jul 14, 2006 12:13 am
We can wait till next week ; )
I already found the Intro from SSBM...now lets use someparts of it to make our own SSB DS Intro xD
On another Hand i am going to upload now, the new DevKit, that has many and many and many music, and sounds, and the SSBM Intro if anyone wants to help making a SSB DS Intro using the SSBM one...
Thanks
#92585 - dshacker - Fri Jul 14, 2006 12:15 am
Ill take the devkit now if its allready made
#92586 - Vasco - Fri Jul 14, 2006 12:19 am
im putting it on MegaUpload now... 1 hour.. and i send you the link...
Anyone that wants to help us out doing a SSB DS Intro, has to use the Intro of the SSBM... theres the link to it:.
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=EV3D1LIP
Thanks
#92595 - Vasco - Fri Jul 14, 2006 1:25 am
DevKit 2 is ready to download xD Send me a PM if you want it !
#92598 - thundrestrike - Fri Jul 14, 2006 1:41 am
im back,
any news on the demo?
I eagerly await to play :D
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#92600 - Vasco - Fri Jul 14, 2006 1:43 am
Only tomorow.. 14 of july (today for me)
#92604 - thundrestrike - Fri Jul 14, 2006 1:52 am
aw man ;)
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#92607 - Vasco - Fri Jul 14, 2006 2:04 am
Please READ THIS:.
Im going on a mini mini vacations this weekend, so im only coming here on sunday...
The thing is that, most probably this will turn out a little desorganized with out me xD
Please i ask from my heart... let the Topic stay organized, any questions about the game, talk to DsHacker on this Topic, and only if its very important talk to him on PM...
As for the things we are still needing are:.
A Site maker...
A Intro maker... (check the 1st Page of the Topic)
Music and Sounds from SSBM...
Im only going at Portugal and England 2 P.M, but when i go ill say ;D
Thanks
#92608 - brennan - Fri Jul 14, 2006 2:32 am
I said I can make a site if need be.
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#92609 - shaz - Fri Jul 14, 2006 2:40 am
Right, I just came from my Prom :)
I havent been following this thread as it is 2:37am and im kinda tired now.
I could try to do the website design,
add me on MSN Messenger at shirazkhan_172@hotmail.com
Also I will be doing the testing and giving some ideas. Thanks
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#92611 - SickNalzic - Fri Jul 14, 2006 2:52 am
I have all the ssbm music (im pretty sure) just ask if you want anything
also if you still need testers i'll test (i have a gbamp v2)
#92612 - knight0fdragon - Fri Jul 14, 2006 3:19 am
hey if you need another programmer, i could help there too lol
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#92613 - germel - Fri Jul 14, 2006 3:41 am
hi i?m new to this forum and i came across this so..
I made a flash movie for you. I spend all my night on it. I do everything for a good homebrew though...
its random and can be very nice for publishment on your site please check out:
http://www.geocities.com/nintendodsgroup/smashbrosdstest.htm
Due limits on geocitie the website may be down for a few minutes or whatver..
please let me know i have the file on my pc for your site :-)
P.S. if somebody has a orignal logo made for you i will be able to replace it with my test version...
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#92615 - dshacker - Fri Jul 14, 2006 3:50 am
dude thats freking sweet, I'll take that file cause I'll use it on the intro.
#92616 - clone dad - Fri Jul 14, 2006 4:07 am
hey, can I have the .fla of that? that will really help me in developing the intro (if they still need me) :-P
you're just given me some great ideas.
p.s I'm still here to make the intro. I just need a little bit of time.
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#92618 - germel - Fri Jul 14, 2006 4:20 am
its an .swf file sure everybody can have it.
sorry i didnt know that you where the one to make it i just saw the first few pages of this forum but please be my guest and use it.
please give me your email be sure theres anough space though at least:
394 KB (404.478 bytes)
as for the rest just give your email i?ll sent it....
#92619 - brennan - Fri Jul 14, 2006 4:23 am
germel: There are a few people on the team, he's just the intro guy.
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#92620 - germel - Fri Jul 14, 2006 4:26 am
| brennan wrote: |
| germel: There are a few people on the team, he's just the intro guy. |
Ok
#92621 - dshacker - Fri Jul 14, 2006 4:29 am
theribster500@aim.com there, I want that file
#92622 - germel - Fri Jul 14, 2006 4:40 am
Please i uploaded it to my server you can download it.
its called ?Intro for use?.
http://www.esnips.com/doc/82860078-8cc7-40de-bbf8-a5b460bd63a9/Intro-for-use.zip
(you may be directed to my server list) download it from there..
I feel so stupid i did this i really didnt want to cross into things i just saw the whole thread and gosh so many people wanted to make an intro.
i did it without looking first i?m sorry once more...
#92624 - thundrestrike - Fri Jul 14, 2006 5:46 am
| Quote: |
I feel so stupid i did this i really didnt want to cross into things i just saw the whole thread and gosh so many people wanted to make an intro.
i did it without looking first i?m sorry once more... |
why do you feel like your doing something wrong?
that looks awesome!
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#92625 - Zeep - Fri Jul 14, 2006 6:24 am
Do you guys still need testers? (You said not to post in that other topic...) I have a DS and DS Lite (both Flashme v7) and an M3 SD.
#92626 - germel - Fri Jul 14, 2006 6:44 am
| thundrestrike wrote: |
| Quote: | I feel so stupid i did this i really didnt want to cross into things i just saw the whole thread and gosh so many people wanted to make an intro.
i did it without looking first i?m sorry once more... |
why do you feel like your doing something wrong?
that looks awesome! |
thank you very much i?m trying to put some sword slash with sound effects in it it will also be for download :-D
#92628 - Kvasir - Fri Jul 14, 2006 7:07 am
this will be epic homebrew.
#92630 - dshacker - Fri Jul 14, 2006 7:30 am
Yup, I'm almost done making the game controlls. Currently the touchscreen mod will be added if no bugs are found in the begining of the demo game.
#92633 - germel - Fri Jul 14, 2006 8:05 am
I?ve made a better one i added some sound and effects
http://www.geocities.com/nintendodsgroup/introv2.htm
please lok out for the transfer limit on geocities its very limited
please tell me what you think... I love to make some stuff for fun so dont get me wrong i just love to do it..!! :-D i?m not interrupting any body i just want to let you see my hobby.
#92634 - mrsaturn - Fri Jul 14, 2006 8:08 am
| Vasco wrote: |
Please READ THIS:.
Im going on a mini mini vacations this weekend, so im only coming here on sunday...
The thing is that, most probably this will turn out a little desorganized with out me xD
Please i ask from my heart... let the Topic stay organized, any questions about the game, talk to DsHacker on this Topic, and only if its very important talk to him on PM...
As for the things we are still needing are:.
A Site maker...
A Intro maker... (check the 1st Page of the Topic)
Music and Sounds from SSBM...
Im only going at Portugal and England 2 P.M, but when i go ill say ;D
Thanks |
I could make a version of http://ls5.cydonianknight.com for you. Lemme know.
#92635 - dshacker - Fri Jul 14, 2006 8:12 am
its alot better then what you did have. but here's a suggestion make the Super Smash Bros. DS screen stay up longer and have the master hand and mario attack each other at the bottom of the screen or at the top. And they both charge at each other. and it makes a boom sound along when the words break up.
Like this
Mario -
() <-- Head
/---L <-- Hands
ll <-- Body
---
l l <-- Feat
#92637 - germel - Fri Jul 14, 2006 8:19 am
well i could try it but i need sprites or some animations of the 2 and the problem is it must connect i mean acting together becouse their attacking each other... if someone has a video of this and its pretty clean well send it to me so i can make it a flash video and add it.
i will look if i can make it by myself but than i need some time becouse making this isnt done in one sec..
i?ll do my very fast best. :-D if this works.. WOW
ok i found sprites..
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#92638 - jester - Fri Jul 14, 2006 8:21 am
i know a site where u can get all the sounds dshacker
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#92640 - dshacker - Fri Jul 14, 2006 8:28 am
| germel wrote: |
well i could try it but i need sprites or some animations of the 2 and the problem is it must connect i mean acting together becouse their attacking each other... if someone has a video of this and its pretty clean well send it to me so i can make it a flash video and add it.
i will look if i can make it by myself but than i need some time becouse making this isnt done in one sec..
i?ll do my very fast best. :-D if this works.. WOW
ok i found sprites.. |
God, I also had sprites
#92644 - jester - Fri Jul 14, 2006 9:43 am
i will Pm you the site to get all of the sounds dshacker tell vasco the site aswell also PM me the name of the sounds that do not work! and tell me the ones that do!
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#92649 - germel - Fri Jul 14, 2006 10:07 am
I wil make it like this:
both come in screen both frem left and right. master hand starting to shoot fire and mario jumps and miss them and in that jump he goes direct the master hand at the point mario crashes into the master hand they both disapear and the words explode.. ok??
its a matter of a few seconds but i looks already cool and much work whehe
#92650 - jester - Fri Jul 14, 2006 10:10 am
yeah we need to try to follow the story i believe we need more coders on the project!!!
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#92652 - dshacker - Fri Jul 14, 2006 10:22 am
actulyy I'm basicly done. I just need to add the sprites, and the menus, a cpu.bin file, then compile the code.
#92655 - Vasco - Fri Jul 14, 2006 10:48 am
Alucard258 You are now, the person in from of the Page Maker on the Team !
Jester download all the things you can about music and sounds from SSBM, then put it on a .rar and send it to me by pm so i make another DevKit to DsHacker...
DsHacker when you have some screens send me so i put it on the front page xD
#92657 - dshacker - Fri Jul 14, 2006 10:53 am
like screenshots, sure.
#92660 - jester - Fri Jul 14, 2006 11:09 am
Vasco i will put the music files in .zip format i will pm them to you soon also there are some that dont work pm me a list of the ones that work and the ones that dont work
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#92661 - Vasco - Fri Jul 14, 2006 11:18 am
music that works and dont works ? sorry i didnt understand...
#92662 - jester - Fri Jul 14, 2006 11:19 am
basically their will be some mp3s that work and some that dont! should i give you the website that has all of the .75 sounds in the game?
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#92663 - Vasco - Fri Jul 14, 2006 11:22 am
yes, its better so you dont have to upload it ;) but in PM as it is Piracy
#92664 - dshacker - Fri Jul 14, 2006 11:24 am
Improvement to the game.
Game will support wifilibds - soon enoguh.
Built in keyboard added, no, profiles arent ready yet, but you can still play the game. Microphone support will be added sometime useing PAlib. Wifi still not sure about even though it's been addedd. Other stuff have been added also.
#92665 - jester - Fri Jul 14, 2006 11:28 am
the keyboard feature should be used in like a lobby feature in a wifi game also any updates on the sprites team mate?
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#92666 - dshacker - Fri Jul 14, 2006 11:32 am
well I'm still waiting for this stuff. *=means waiting for
*Menu--.1player-->*Character selection--pick character-->*map selection--pick map--> Start on battle feild and fight.
#92667 - jester - Fri Jul 14, 2006 11:33 am
ok then thanks for the update! this project is skyrocketing soon our team will become noticed in the homebrew community
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#92670 - A2hok - Fri Jul 14, 2006 11:59 am
How many maps are you guys going to include?
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#92671 - dshacker - Fri Jul 14, 2006 12:00 pm
I'm jsut inclding one for the demo map for now.
#92672 - jester - Fri Jul 14, 2006 12:02 pm
excellent news keep it up any news from HtheB? or shaz?
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#92673 - Vasco - Fri Jul 14, 2006 12:03 pm
#92674 - dualscreenman - Fri Jul 14, 2006 12:17 pm
Wow. I just got here. Yesterdya we were at page 4.
Oh well, I have just oen request. Please don't limit this homebrew to FAT saving only. Please enable SRAM saving as well. Then I'll be the happiest man alive.
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| What about Gaim DS? Gaim pretty much has support for all IM programs. |
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#92675 - dshacker - Fri Jul 14, 2006 12:21 pm
thats only if I can. You should be able to be able to boot it up in sram w/e any trouble when you load in the gamecart. Also I'm going back to bed. I was working all night on this. Almost done. I just need to finish the functions of kirby and dark-kirby. It's allready 7:22 AM so yea, I'm really tired. PLus I'm almost finished with kirbys functions, as for the dark kirby (mr. game and watch kirby) I'm just going to leave him as a decoy. Once the demos tested and all of that, I'll compile more maps into the game and more selectable characters. I also forgot that I need to add in the menu. DOn't worry, the demos allmost done, and once it's done, I can easyly add more stuff to the game. Like wifi, more characters and maps. Trophies in the settings section. Wifi pictochat protocool for talking to people online in the game. Microphone support when in the map level to tlak instead of typing.
#92677 - jester - Fri Jul 14, 2006 12:46 pm
well that is all good news ive just got some new sounds and all
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#92678 - dualscreenman - Fri Jul 14, 2006 12:53 pm
Yeah, go to bed dshacker. You need your rest. :-p
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| What about Gaim DS? Gaim pretty much has support for all IM programs. |
| tepples wrote: |
| "Goshdammit, the DS is not a Gaim-boy! It's a third pillar!" |
#92680 - jester - Fri Jul 14, 2006 1:00 pm
well can you code dualscreenman ?? if so you could continue the code for him!
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#92681 - germel - Fri Jul 14, 2006 1:05 pm
Ok this it is.... I proud on it.. Now i need some sleep didnt sleep a bit.
http://www.geocities.com/nintendodsgroup/introv3.htm
Howly cow how many are looking?? My data traffic has stopped even i can not enter my site..!! I need an other host.. please be carefull with looking before it stops again. And if you cant well come back later i really try?d my best on this.
You could also download the Index file wich let you also see it:
http://www.esnips.com/doc/e45bbd25-9443-4a1a-97be-ba6edbea19e1/finalversion.zip
if it brings you to my server list the file its called: finalversion
just open the Index file see.
Thank you.
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#92683 - jester - Fri Jul 14, 2006 1:14 pm
well done excellent work amazing keep it up maybe sharper graphics or maybe make the intro a little bit longer 17s or so
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#92684 - dualscreenman - Fri Jul 14, 2006 1:24 pm
| jester wrote: |
| well can you code dualscreenman ?? if so you could continue the code for him! |
Nah, I'm not much for coding. I did make a calculator application for the PC in C++ that runs in the command prompt, though!
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| What about Gaim DS? Gaim pretty much has support for all IM programs. |
| tepples wrote: |
| "Goshdammit, the DS is not a Gaim-boy! It's a third pillar!" |
#92686 - germel - Fri Jul 14, 2006 2:19 pm
| jester wrote: |
| well done excellent work amazing keep it up maybe sharper graphics or maybe make the intro a little bit longer 17s or so |
Ok i?ll try but for now i need to lie down i dont feel so good :-( i guess its to hot.. i?ll do it as soon as possible
#92688 - jester - Fri Jul 14, 2006 2:55 pm
well excellent work get better soon ssbm must continue
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#92693 - clone dad - Fri Jul 14, 2006 3:33 pm
well, I don't know if this is any better, but i messed with the ssbm video and edited yours and came up with this:
http://img53.imageshack.us/my.php?image=newintro3ua.swf
*edit*
heres the updated version. Just added a few sound fx.
http://img387.imageshack.us/my.php?image=newintro9ef.swf&width=640
keep in mind i'm not finished yet.
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#92694 - thundrestrike - Fri Jul 14, 2006 3:45 pm
that looks nice!
is that flash video that you guys are making supposed to be the intro that plays on the nintendo DS? or is it only for a website?
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#92695 - clone dad - Fri Jul 14, 2006 3:49 pm
I'm not really sure, lol
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#92696 - Alucard258 - Fri Jul 14, 2006 3:56 pm
Ill have the site up and running within the next few hours I believe.
#92698 - dualscreenman - Fri Jul 14, 2006 4:01 pm
Nice way to rip the soudntrack from The two Towers. XD I have to admit it's a nice touch, though.
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| What about Gaim DS? Gaim pretty much has support for all IM programs. |
| tepples wrote: |
| "Goshdammit, the DS is not a Gaim-boy! It's a third pillar!" |
#92704 - thundrestrike - Fri Jul 14, 2006 4:28 pm
i cant wait for the demo, when do you suppose it will release?
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#92706 - clone dad - Fri Jul 14, 2006 4:31 pm
heres a sort of updated version........
http://img387.imageshack.us/my.php?image=newintro9ef.swf&width=640
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#92707 - jester - Fri Jul 14, 2006 4:33 pm
well ive nearly got all sounds ready we should create a name for the team!
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#92709 - thundrestrike - Fri Jul 14, 2006 4:34 pm
still looks very nice,
but i dont see the difference (?)
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#92710 - clone dad - Fri Jul 14, 2006 4:39 pm
I just added a few sound effects.
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#92717 - jester - Fri Jul 14, 2006 5:04 pm
i have pmed u clone dad also will this be true to the series?
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#92723 - mastertop101 - Fri Jul 14, 2006 5:56 pm
wow, do not put a video intro in an homebrew, people don't want to download
a few MB just for an intro (especially gbamp and wmb users limited to 4MB !)
or put it 100% vectorial (moving sprites, using coded special effects, put pixels on the screen etc. but no plain video! )
#92729 - thundrestrike - Fri Jul 14, 2006 6:19 pm
DsHacker can make two versions, a video one and a non-video one
but thats only if he wants to.
I can't wait to play the demo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:D!!! :D!!!!!!! :D!!!!!!!!!!
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#92733 - shaz - Fri Jul 14, 2006 6:29 pm
| mastertop101 wrote: |
wow, do not put a video intro in an homebrew, people don't want to download
a few MB just for an intro (especially gbamp and wmb users limited to 4MB !)
or put it 100% vectorial (moving sprites, using coded special effects, put pixels on the screen etc. but no plain video! ) |
I agree.
But I still have this idea of a intro, i'll make it and see if u guys like it.
The video should be around 7 seconds long so that should be ok.
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#92735 - jester - Fri Jul 14, 2006 6:33 pm
both good ideas dshacker will update soon
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#92736 - thundrestrike - Fri Jul 14, 2006 6:34 pm
how soon?
i think he went to bed a few hours ago, i hope he come here soon
i wana play SSBDS!!! :)
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#92739 - jester - Fri Jul 14, 2006 6:48 pm
when he wakes up shaz also clone dad is making the official intro
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#92740 - brennan - Fri Jul 14, 2006 6:52 pm
| mastertop101 wrote: |
wow, do not put a video intro in an homebrew, people don't want to download
a few MB just for an intro (especially gbamp and wmb users limited to 4MB !)
or put it 100% vectorial (moving sprites, using coded special effects, put pixels on the screen etc. but no plain video! ) |
I agree completly.
(Because I use GBAMP)
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#92743 - jester - Fri Jul 14, 2006 7:06 pm
it will be gbamp compatible
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#92747 - ?hr - Fri Jul 14, 2006 7:33 pm
how about 2 versions?
coreversion(minimalistic version) has only the sprites and the level, no big extras, to get below the 4mb size limit.
extrafatcrazyversion with GREAT SFX and great background sounds(4mb+)!
#92748 - Alucard258 - Fri Jul 14, 2006 7:37 pm
Aaaaannndddd...
http://ssbds.netfast.org/index.html
Tada! The site. Yeah, its a pile of crap right now, I got a template from a site and edited it real quick, but for now, itll do. Give me suggestions on what to do with it to make it... better? Or something.
PM me/email me suggestions.
Oh, and forums for the site... ill try to have some in a few days or so.. that is, if we want/need them.
#92749 - thundrestrike - Fri Jul 14, 2006 7:46 pm
thats great looking!
you should have a section in the forums thats called
"wifi-matches"
for the future :)
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#92750 - jester - Fri Jul 14, 2006 7:52 pm
alucard dont forget me i am also a sound person put me next to htheb
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#92751 - Alucard258 - Fri Jul 14, 2006 7:57 pm
:X
Sorry, ill add you right now. It might take a while for it to update tho, I was having some problems with it updating earlier.
#92753 - jester - Fri Jul 14, 2006 8:03 pm
just look at the first page to get all of the members of the team!
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#92758 - Erith - Fri Jul 14, 2006 8:32 pm
That's my 1st message!
Hello everybody!
I'm erith from italy!
I'm avaliable for web design, web hosting, and 3d modeler if u need...
You can see some work by me at
http://www.resetstudio.it
#92759 - germel - Fri Jul 14, 2006 8:36 pm
yep that looked nice i will not do more and leave it to you guys i just did it for fun :-D.
thank you.
#92760 - Erith - Fri Jul 14, 2006 8:49 pm
I think your intro is good!
#92764 - clone dad - Fri Jul 14, 2006 9:17 pm
I think the intro me and germel made should be on beginning of the website.
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#92767 - Alucard258 - Fri Jul 14, 2006 9:25 pm
| clone dad wrote: |
| I think the intro me and germel made should be on beginning of the website. |
Oohh, good idea. Ill work on that later when im not busy.
#92768 - clone dad - Fri Jul 14, 2006 9:28 pm
| mastertop101 wrote: |
wow, do not put a video intro in an homebrew, people don't want to download
a few MB just for an intro (especially gbamp and wmb users limited to 4MB !)
or put it 100% vectorial (moving sprites, using coded special effects, put pixels on the screen etc. but no plain video! ) |
yes, mastertop is right. There shouldn't be an intro in the real game. it would take up too much space.
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#92769 - jester - Fri Jul 14, 2006 9:36 pm
well that isnt completely true
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#92770 - tssf - Fri Jul 14, 2006 9:39 pm
I'm thinking about offering my services, but I'm already doing music for one DS game. Two might be overkill for me.
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#92772 - jester - Fri Jul 14, 2006 9:45 pm
well join the project!
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#92786 - thundrestrike - Fri Jul 14, 2006 11:09 pm
any news, Vasco or DsHacker?
i check back like every 30 minutes, hoping xD
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#92787 - clone dad - Fri Jul 14, 2006 11:13 pm
I updated teh site a bit. I added the intro as the index page.
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#92790 - Alucard258 - Fri Jul 14, 2006 11:30 pm
We should get a higher quality intro...
#92792 - jester - Fri Jul 14, 2006 11:31 pm
so any updates on the actual game when will the intro be finished?
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#92794 - dshacker - Fri Jul 14, 2006 11:56 pm
well I'm just about finished. Hold on, I should be able to finish kirbys sprites useing the GBA Super Smash Bros for the demo. Nad I'll add the menu and stuff to the game right now, then compile the code finally.
#92796 - thundrestrike - Sat Jul 15, 2006 12:12 am
yay! welcome back!
when do you suppose the release? 15 mins? 30? 1 hour? 5 mins? :P
I can't wait!
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#92798 - dshacker - Sat Jul 15, 2006 12:20 am
about 15 mins at the most.
#92799 - shaz - Sat Jul 15, 2006 12:20 am
No offence, but I seriously do not like the intro.
It is very simple.
I will try to make one anyway, I just need to know which characters should I put in.
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#92800 - thundrestrike - Sat Jul 15, 2006 12:21 am
| dshacker wrote: |
| about 15 mins at the most. |
cool!
post a link as soon as its up! YES!
thank you dsHacker!
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#92803 - shaz - Sat Jul 15, 2006 12:25 am
| Alucard258 wrote: |
Aaaaannndddd...
http://ssbds.netfast.org/index.html
Tada! The site. Yeah, its a pile of crap right now, I got a template from a site and edited it real quick, but for now, itll do. Give me suggestions on what to do with it to make it... better? Or something.
PM me/email me suggestions.
Oh, and forums for the site... ill try to have some in a few days or so.. that is, if we want/need them. |
Is there any way I can get access to editing the website. I am good with editing sites and making webpages. Trust me
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#92804 - dualscreenman - Sat Jul 15, 2006 12:26 am
I'll be PR man. Once it's up I Digg, send to Drunken Coders, etc
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| What about Gaim DS? Gaim pretty much has support for all IM programs. |
| tepples wrote: |
| "Goshdammit, the DS is not a Gaim-boy! It's a third pillar!" |
#92808 - shaz - Sat Jul 15, 2006 12:31 am
| dualscreenman wrote: |
| I'll be PR man. Once it's up I Digg, send to Drunken Coders, etc |
NO WAY! If you digg, we get doomed!
If Nintendo finds out, it'll be seized.
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#92809 - dualscreenman - Sat Jul 15, 2006 12:32 am
OK. I guess I should ask which media outlets I should notify. *That crosses off CNN*...
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| What about Gaim DS? Gaim pretty much has support for all IM programs. |
| tepples wrote: |
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#92810 - thundrestrike - Sat Jul 15, 2006 12:33 am
dont want that to happen
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#92813 - thundrestrike - Sat Jul 15, 2006 12:37 am
(my) best idea is to keep it to homebrew communities, not news sites
examples like
gbadev.org (duh)
boards.pocketheaven.com
scdev.org
and others if you have any
(dont take my word for it, see what dshacker has to say)
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#92814 - dshacker - Sat Jul 15, 2006 12:38 am
first off, I'm not including the intro in the begining.
#92815 - shaz - Sat Jul 15, 2006 12:44 am
| dshacker wrote: |
| first off, I'm not including the intro in the begining. |
good, but put a title screen. Also when selecting menus etc, I think you should use fade effects.
For example:
When selecting one player and then it will take you to the character selection screen, instead of just taking you there, there should be a face effect transition. Or when on the title screen, when you press start, it will fade to the main menu instead of just blinking you there.
Ya get ma flow?
It will make it look more professional.
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#92817 - dualscreenman - Sat Jul 15, 2006 12:45 am
Please just let him release the thing. ;-) :-p
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| What about Gaim DS? Gaim pretty much has support for all IM programs. |
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#92818 - shaz - Sat Jul 15, 2006 12:46 am
Also, about where the ssb ds should be, it should ALWAYS be on the main website. But you should notify the webmasters of ONLY homebrew sites.
This will gain more traffic to the official ssb ds website.
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#92819 - Kturbo - Sat Jul 15, 2006 12:46 am
| dshacker wrote: |
| about 15 mins at the most. |
Did you mean 15 Mars-minutes or what? :P
#92821 - shaz - Sat Jul 15, 2006 12:48 am
| Kturbo wrote: |
| dshacker wrote: | | about 15 mins at the most. |
Did you mean 15 Mars-minutes or what? :P |
You guys are being too hasty...
seriously...
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#92822 - dualscreenman - Sat Jul 15, 2006 12:49 am
It does take time to actually compile, upload, and see if it actually works etc.
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| What about Gaim DS? Gaim pretty much has support for all IM programs. |
| tepples wrote: |
| "Goshdammit, the DS is not a Gaim-boy! It's a third pillar!" |
#92823 - Kturbo - Sat Jul 15, 2006 12:50 am
| shaz wrote: |
| Kturbo wrote: | | dshacker wrote: | | about 15 mins at the most. |
Did you mean 15 Mars-minutes or what? :P |
You guys are being too hasty...
seriously... |
No, seriously... :P Nah, I'm just off to bed soon and I want to try it out. :P
#92824 - Alucard258 - Sat Jul 15, 2006 12:53 am
| shaz wrote: |
Is there any way I can get access to editing the website. I am good with editing sites and making webpages. Trust me |
Hmm, ive already got a second person "helping" me with the site. If we do end up needing more help tho, ill contact you.
#92828 - dshacker - Sat Jul 15, 2006 1:00 am
look I'm working my but off allright. Please wait untill I'm done. I'm adding the map to the map_selection screen and all of that. Please wait.
#92829 - shaz - Sat Jul 15, 2006 1:01 am
| Alucard258 wrote: |
| shaz wrote: |
Is there any way I can get access to editing the website. I am good with editing sites and making webpages. Trust me |
Hmm, ive already got a second person "helping" me with the site. If we do end up needing more help tho, ill contact you. |
My very very old site, havent updated since 2003 lol
http://emu-zone.netfirms.com/
Another... 2004
http://ancientpriston.netfirms.com/
Not bad ey,
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#92831 - dualscreenman - Sat Jul 15, 2006 1:05 am
| dshacker wrote: |
| Look I'm working my butt off alright. Please wait until I'm done. I'm adding the map to the map_selection screen and all of that. Please wait. |
It shouldn't have to come to a coder having to tell people to stop asking when the program will be done. Let's all be patient.
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| dualscreenman wrote: |
| What about Gaim DS? Gaim pretty much has support for all IM programs. |
| tepples wrote: |
| "Goshdammit, the DS is not a Gaim-boy! It's a third pillar!" |
#92832 - Alucard258 - Sat Jul 15, 2006 1:10 am
| germel wrote: |
yep that looked nice i will not do more and leave it to you guys i just did it for fun :-D.
thank you. |
Can I get the font you used for the end of the video, the "Mario and his friends are back" part?
#92833 - dshacker - Sat Jul 15, 2006 1:19 am
Get ready guys, I'm compiling everything together.
#92834 - Kturbo - Sat Jul 15, 2006 1:20 am
| dshacker wrote: |
| Get ready guys, I'm compiling everything together. |
Yay, 'nuff said.
#92835 - thundrestrike - Sat Jul 15, 2006 1:20 am
yes!
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#92837 - dualscreenman - Sat Jul 15, 2006 1:23 am
Aww.. I have to go soon. :-(
I'll say great work in advance, though. ;-)
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| What about Gaim DS? Gaim pretty much has support for all IM programs. |
| tepples wrote: |
| "Goshdammit, the DS is not a Gaim-boy! It's a third pillar!" |
#92838 - Alucard258 - Sat Jul 15, 2006 1:42 am
Been... 25 min since the said compiling. Everything alright?
#92839 - brennan - Sat Jul 15, 2006 1:46 am
About the issue with getting busted for cpoyright laws: Why don't you just make a game that doesn't break all kinds of laws? Name it "Smash DS", create your own music, and not plan on selling it... (:P)
At dshacker's sig: No your not. ali banana was. There is also a game called Super Mario War DS. Check the facts.
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#92840 - thundrestrike - Sat Jul 15, 2006 1:50 am
| Alucard258 wrote: |
| Been... 25 min since the said compiling. Everything alright? |
maybe he is testing and found bugs and went back to fix
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#92841 - dshacker - Sat Jul 15, 2006 1:50 am
ok games ready, were to upload for you guys, and yes I was the first person to create super smash bros ds, it's not called super smash wars ds now is it.
#92842 - thundrestrike - Sat Jul 15, 2006 1:52 am
yes! megaupload
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#92843 - brennan - Sat Jul 15, 2006 1:53 am
Okay, no you weren't, but I'm not going to go flame on your ass right now. I'm going to leave this thread alone until I actually get to play the game.
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#92844 - thundrestrike - Sat Jul 15, 2006 1:55 am
You said you needed a title screen, Dshacker?
I spent about 45 minutes on it (while waiting for demo ;])
And I'm quite proud on how it turned out.
Here is the overall preview of it-
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(letters look a bit choppy unless you click to zoom-in to actual size)
Here is the top screen only-
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EDIT: DONT USE THIS, I MADE A BETTER ONE THAT IS LESS CHOPPY IN THE LETTERS
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use that one with the arrows pointing to it ;)
Here is the bottom screen only-
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And to those concerned about copyright laws-
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Please let me know if you like it, dshacker!
you can touch it up a bit if you plan on using it.
Also, if you have a better idea for the bottom screen, then let me know :)
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#92845 - dshacker - Sat Jul 15, 2006 2:00 am
well I like it, I'll add it to the actull game once people test the dmeo out. Plus I have a menu screen for the demo.
#92846 - thundrestrike - Sat Jul 15, 2006 2:00 am
awesome!
It feels good to have submitted to probably the best homebrew game out there x)
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#92847 - Alucard258 - Sat Jul 15, 2006 2:02 am
| thundrestrike wrote: |
awesome!
It feels good to have submitted to probably the best homebrew game out there x) |
Possibly the best CONCEPT for the game, but as for the actual gameplay, we dont know right now. Seeing as its just a demo right now, I wouldnt expect much, and everyone is going to have complaints about it and more suggestions.
#92848 - dshacker - Sat Jul 15, 2006 2:03 am
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=45UQF93N heres the file, you might need winrar to open it and extract it. If the game doesnt/does work notify me. Also the page will keep making you go to a diff. site. Just hit the back button, type in the code at the top and download it
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#92849 - thundrestrike - Sat Jul 15, 2006 2:04 am
downloading* :D
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#92850 - dualscreenman - Sat Jul 15, 2006 2:04 am
| thundrestrike wrote: |
awesome!
It feels good to have submitted to probably the best homebrew game out there x) |
That's nothin'. I have submitted (documetation) to the best homebrew *firmware* out there, fwnitro. XD Anyway, those screens look cool.
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| What about Gaim DS? Gaim pretty much has support for all IM programs. |
| tepples wrote: |
| "Goshdammit, the DS is not a Gaim-boy! It's a third pillar!" |
#92851 - dshacker - Sat Jul 15, 2006 2:07 am
well does it work?
#92852 - thundrestrike - Sat Jul 15, 2006 2:08 am
how do you make a regularly .nds file work with the supercard? (i know for homebrew you rename the .ds.gba file to .nds, but theres no .ds.gba)
erm... any plans on .ds.gba?!
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#92853 - dshacker - Sat Jul 15, 2006 2:09 am
make the file extension sc.nds for supercard. To do this, open up notepad, and open up the .nds game, make sure to when opening up the files, cahnge it to open all files, then open the game, then svae the game as supersmashbrosds.sc.nds and make sure when you save it it's an all file part. So it saves as a Nintendo DS game card image.
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#92854 - thundrestrike - Sat Jul 15, 2006 2:10 am
that won't work, its still gonna be a .nds file
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#92855 - Alucard258 - Sat Jul 15, 2006 2:10 am
>_>
that file will NOT work.
Its only 10 KBs. That is not enough for a homebrew game such as this. Something mustve gone wrong during the compiling. -_-
And yeah, its an .nds file, it wont work anyways.
#92856 - dshacker - Sat Jul 15, 2006 2:12 am
then what should I change it to? Man I still need to do more work on it then.
#92860 - thundrestrike - Sat Jul 15, 2006 2:32 am
any progress?
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#92863 - tepples - Sat Jul 15, 2006 2:53 am
| shaz wrote: |
| If Nintendo finds out, it'll be seized. |
Then redraw all the sprites. Established kung-fu character stereotypes are public domain (Capcom v. Data East), and so are established fairy tale characters (bye-bye Peach, hello Rapunzel).
Piracy is piracy. If a homebrew game uses copyrighted sprites without permission, it's just as much an infringement as if I were to dump my Mario Kart Super Circuit Game Pak, upload it to pineight.com, and link it in my sig. What would SimonB do?
| thundrestrike wrote: |
| And to those concerned about copyright laws- [look at this picture of President Bush] |
Bush replacing Master Hand? Kick ass!
And about the intro: Marvel vs. Capcom series uses a sprite based intro.
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#92864 - thundrestrike - Sat Jul 15, 2006 2:53 am
The letters in my title screen looked a bit choppy, so i fixed it
DO NOT USE THE OTHER ONE!!
use this one, the letters blend in alot better
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better and less choppy, eh?
If you don't see a difference, then look at the old one (above) and then look at the new one :)
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#92866 - shaz - Sat Jul 15, 2006 3:01 am
Looks like you compiled it wrong...
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#92867 - thundrestrike - Sat Jul 15, 2006 3:02 am
| tepples wrote: |
| If a homebrew game uses copyrighted sprites without permission, it's just as much an infringement as if I were to dump my Mario Kart Super Circuit Game Pak, upload it to pineight.com, and link it in my sig. |
the sprites hes using are completely 2-D and were taken from a website (forgot the website) and I think the sprites there were drawn not ripped
SSB and SSBM are 3-d!!
SSBDS = 2-d ;p
BTW:
any progress dshacker? were did you go?
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#92869 - dshacker - Sat Jul 15, 2006 3:06 am
I was using the super smash bros advance kirby sprites for to make it easyier, I'll work on the game later.
#92870 - thundrestrike - Sat Jul 15, 2006 3:08 am
later?
aw man!
please find a way to make it work :)
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#92871 - shaz - Sat Jul 15, 2006 3:09 am
Can you compile a working copy?
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#92873 - tepples - Sat Jul 15, 2006 3:18 am
| thundrestrike wrote: |
| the sprites hes using are completely 2-D and were taken from a website (forgot the website) and I think the sprites there were drawn not ripped |
Redrawing a copyrighted work is still copyright infringement. And what about the music?
Anyone want to start on a table to map between SSBM characters and freely usable characters?
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#92874 - thundrestrike - Sat Jul 15, 2006 3:20 am
| tepples wrote: |
| thundrestrike wrote: | | the sprites hes using are completely 2-D and were taken from a website (forgot the website) and I think the sprites there were drawn not ripped |
Redrawing a copyrighted work is still copyright infringement. And what about the music? |
oh cmon tepples, whos gonna know?
we just want to play smash bros on the go ;P
| shaz wrote: |
| Can you compile a working copy? |
Yes, PLEASE dshacker :) :)
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#92875 - clone dad - Sat Jul 15, 2006 3:29 am
I got the forum up and running.
here it is:
http://ssbds.netfast.org/phpBB2/
have fun :-)
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#92876 - brennan - Sat Jul 15, 2006 3:39 am
Ugh, are you serious?! People on the team of a game with potential completely disregarding copyright laws? What is so hard about changing a few srites to non-copyrighted characters? Think about it, it'll be basicly the same game, but you could have characters like "Ninja", or hell, throw in a "Pirate", then we'd finally be able to settle the dispute of which is better :P.
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#92877 - tepples - Sat Jul 15, 2006 3:42 am
| thundrestrike wrote: |
| tepples wrote: | | thundrestrike wrote: | | and I think the sprites there were drawn not ripped |
Redrawing a copyrighted work is still copyright infringement. And what about the music? |
oh cmon tepples, whos gonna know? |
Do you seriously think Nintendo doesn't read gbadev.org? [good-cop]And what will happen when SimonB and wintermute wake up?[/good-cop]
You could take the approach used by Mugen and StepMania: Make a generic comic-fighting engine and stuff it with freely usable sprites. Then have the romhacking community distribute the Smash Bros. mod for it.
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#92879 - dshacker - Sat Jul 15, 2006 4:24 am
is anyone else out here good for making HB DS games as a coder, if so I'll need your help.
#92881 - knight0fdragon - Sat Jul 15, 2006 5:01 am
i could probably help you
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#92883 - FifthE1ement - Sat Jul 15, 2006 5:30 am
Tepples, please give it a rest. No offense but making the same argument 100x isn't going to make your point more valid. They want to make a SSB game and since Nintendo doesn't want to they WILL. Nintendo has had over 4 years to do it and it?s never going to happen. I mean think how sweet a SSB game would be with The New Super Mario Bros 2d engine and 3d characters! The 2d/3d environments, great gameplay combined with everything Nintendo! They already have the engine premade so what are they waiting for? Knowing Nintendo, they could put together a SSB game from the NSMB engine within 6-8 months with no problems. I mean, if I can have this homebrew version I'll take that over nothing! I give props to the makers as you are really dedicated. I hope it?s the best homebrew game out! I hope Nintendo comes after you for it! I then hope you keep on making it and show them it?s time to make a game of their own!
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#92884 - dshacker - Sat Jul 15, 2006 5:31 am
| knight0fdragon wrote: |
| i could probably help you |
well I know about .cpp and stuff like that very well. Anyways, I'll send you my folder with the stuff in it.
#92888 - thundrestrike - Sat Jul 15, 2006 6:22 am
| tepples wrote: |
| thundrestrike wrote: | | tepples wrote: | | thundrestrike wrote: | | and I think the sprites there were drawn not ripped |
Redrawing a copyrighted work is still copyright infringement. And what about the music? |
oh cmon tepples, whos gonna know? |
Do you seriously think Nintendo doesn't read gbadev.org? [good-cop]And what will happen when SimonB and wintermute wake up?[/good-cop] |
what can nintendo do about it? seriosly, and i agree with fifthe1ement, everytime someone wants to make a fan-game, (no offense) you go full-fledged on copyright laws..
its a FAN-GAME!!! as in, "nintendo! we love your game! im going to make a remake as a good fan! thank you!"
im glad for dshacker ;)
if nintendo had a problem with this, they would say so.
heck, the way tepples acts, is he from nintendo (?)
if not, then lol sorry (just a weird wild wonder)
im not trying to be too negative to you tepples, (sorry if i am too much)
P.S. who is SimonB and wintermute and what do they have to do with this?
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#92889 - Mallin - Sat Jul 15, 2006 6:47 am
| thundrestrike wrote: |
| P.S. who is SimonB and wintermute and what do they have to do with this? |
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#92894 - jester - Sat Jul 15, 2006 8:41 am
move all of you questions into the new forum
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#92895 - D-loader - Sat Jul 15, 2006 9:45 am
As much as I hate to say it, I kinda have to agree with Tepples.. it is against the copyright law, to use copyright-protected sprites in a fangame.
I like his idea about the genetic fighting-engine, with freeware sprites, then releasing another version at pocketheaven or something, with the Nintendo Sprites as piracy =)
#92898 - HtheB - Sat Jul 15, 2006 10:31 am
Can I go off topic? :D
OffTopic: @ dshacker: your sign is not right :P
there are some other guys who made supersmash bros for the ds tough.. :)
^^
oke.. back on topic :D
@ D-loader: rofl idea :D
#92899 - ?hr - Sat Jul 15, 2006 10:36 am
| HtheB wrote: |
Can I go off topic? :D
OffTopic: @ dshacker: your sign is not right :P
there are some other guys who made supersmash bros for the ds tough.. :)
|
right! i tried making one before you guys did. but ill stop now because heres a real team making it. Happy progress!
#92913 - clone dad - Sat Jul 15, 2006 3:29 pm
*self edit*
hmm.
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#92914 - HtheB - Sat Jul 15, 2006 3:30 pm
oke.. got many original sounds of the game :)
#92916 - thundrestrike - Sat Jul 15, 2006 4:07 pm
| clone dad wrote: |
| wouldn't it be awful if this whole thing was a fake? |
say again?!
you know it would be awful, but I wouldn't say that...
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#92919 - jester - Sat Jul 15, 2006 4:16 pm
well done HtheB!!
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#92921 - Vasco - Sat Jul 15, 2006 5:02 pm
Well im going only today... so only 1 hour and im going... any updates ?
PS:. Are you kidding me ? making another Forum will not help now, we are going apart, the project is already in many topics, this will make the project desorganized.... Lets make first the game, and then a WebSite and a forum... not now...
#92922 - jester - Sat Jul 15, 2006 5:19 pm
close this thread mods
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#92923 - Vasco - Sat Jul 15, 2006 5:21 pm
What ?
Are you kidding ?
#92925 - thundrestrike - Sat Jul 15, 2006 5:42 pm
don't close this thread -.-
where did you get that idea?
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please sign up at the official forums - http://ssbds.netfast.org/phpBB2/
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#92926 - tepples - Sat Jul 15, 2006 6:04 pm
If they're not willing to make a distribution with freely available characters (for which a redrawn Mario does not count), this is a piracy topic and will be closed.
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#92927 - dshacker - Sat Jul 15, 2006 6:07 pm
were using freely made maps and stuff, nothing mere, nor nothing riped off of the official game.
#92935 - thundrestrike - Sat Jul 15, 2006 7:04 pm
hate to break it to you, but the music is ripped ;)
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#92937 - mrsaturn - Sat Jul 15, 2006 7:19 pm
I predict an exodus from here to your guys' forum..
#92939 - clone dad - Sat Jul 15, 2006 9:04 pm
no one get your hopes up. This thing looks fake. dshacker has now mysteriously dissapeared.
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#92941 - thundrestrike - Sat Jul 15, 2006 9:09 pm
dshackers sig---
"I made yet another Super Smash Bros DS game."
??
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#92944 - mastertop101 - Sat Jul 15, 2006 9:17 pm
just remove mario's hat, put his clothes blue change the name and that's it ! the game will be as fun.
| Quote: |
dshackers sig---
"I made yet another Super Smash Bros DS game."
?? |
cause hitheb ("touch music" coming heh? :p ) said there was another ssb ds project a few time ago cancelled by nintendo (but it could have been a fake)
#92947 - thundrestrike - Sat Jul 15, 2006 10:24 pm
Tepples-
Lock this Topic. Remove it if need be. This FAKE is distracting major homebrew developers, and others participating in homebrew!
LOOK!
| Quote: |
| right! i tried making one before you guys did. but ill stop now because heres a real team making it. Happy progress! |
Tepples, take action now. Our homebrew scene is doomed if all attention is focused on this fake.
I have noticed many topics recieving less views/posts.
This one has 4000+ views and 18 pages in 2 days
I have also noticed not many updates in other homebrew or new ones.
Take action.
-Thundrestrike
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#92948 - jester - Sat Jul 15, 2006 10:42 pm
the project will continue i am enlisting the help of 2 new coders! close this still though!!
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#92949 - thundrestrike - Sat Jul 15, 2006 10:44 pm
whatever you say
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#92950 - jester - Sat Jul 15, 2006 10:50 pm
r u giving up on the project?
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#92953 - Dan2552 - Sat Jul 15, 2006 11:02 pm
| thundrestrike wrote: |
Tepples-
Lock this Topic. Remove it if need be. This FAKE is distracting major homebrew developers, and others participating in homebrew!
LOOK!
| Quote: | | right! i tried making one before you guys did. but ill stop now because heres a real team making it. Happy progress! |
Tepples, take action now. Our homebrew scene is doomed if all attention is focused on this fake.
I have noticed many topics recieving less views/posts.
This one has 4000+ views and 18 pages in 2 days
I have also noticed not many updates in other homebrew or new ones.
Take action.
-Thundrestrike |
I agree. We havn't seen an .NDS yet have we?
#92955 - dshacker - Sat Jul 15, 2006 11:07 pm
the projects real. I had a made of it, but it didn't work, and I'm still working on the project.
#92956 - tepples - Sat Jul 15, 2006 11:08 pm
Please continue discussion here. I'll just let this one sit locked; after a couple days it should fall off the front page of DS Misc.
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