#93203 - quadomatic - Mon Jul 17, 2006 6:19 pm
http://lazyone.drunkencoders.com/wordpress/
I've never seen a topic for this, so i thought i'd post it.
This guy has been working on running mac on ds. it's looking pretty good. He says once he fixes some mouse stuff he'll release a proof of concept version.
#93204 - adrian783 - Mon Jul 17, 2006 6:25 pm
intriguing...
#93212 - Dan2552 - Mon Jul 17, 2006 7:55 pm
he better make a GBAMP compatable version
#93224 - swimgod - Mon Jul 17, 2006 10:41 pm
| Dan2552 wrote: |
| he better make a GBAMP compatable version |
>.> not that im not rude but that sounds threatening :P
and the gbamp is VERY limited comparied to the supercard or m3,
im sure this will need extra ram sadly...
but yeah i hope he makes it work for all :P
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#93228 - tepples - Mon Jul 17, 2006 11:00 pm
| swimgod wrote: |
and the gbamp is VERY limited comparied to the supercard or m3,
im sure this will need extra ram sadly... |
Why? The Nintendo DS has 4 MB of RAM. Mac OS 6.x and earlier can run with 2 MB of RAM. Giving the emulated Mac 3 MB of RAM leaves 0.5 MB for the emulator itself and 0.5 MB for any of the rest of the emulator's state that isn't squirreled away in VRAM.
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#93230 - Dan2552 - Mon Jul 17, 2006 11:08 pm
| tepples wrote: |
| swimgod wrote: | and the gbamp is VERY limited comparied to the supercard or m3,
im sure this will need extra ram sadly... |
Why? The Nintendo DS has 4 MB of RAM. Mac OS 6.x and earlier can run with 2 MB of RAM. Giving the emulated Mac 3 MB of RAM leaves 0.5 MB for the emulator itself and 0.5 MB for any of the rest of the emulator's state that isn't squirreled away in VRAM. |
Oooh you're getting my hopes up
Swimgod: more of an empty threat, nothing other than a few 'why wont it work on the GBAMP' posts would come of it
#93232 - Sektor - Mon Jul 17, 2006 11:26 pm
It will work on GBAMP. That is what lazyone uses for development. It's not going to be full speed and it looks like you'll need to do a lot of scrolling since the resolution is low but should still be usable.
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#93262 - spacepirate - Tue Jul 18, 2006 3:15 am
It doesn't seem like it'd be horribly slow, despite emulation. Processor speeds of computers running system 6 were < 12 Mhz, if my memory serves me well. Also, most programs at that time were designed with a minimum resolution of 640 x 480, which definitely means less scrolling compared to DS VNC apps.
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#93272 - tepples - Tue Jul 18, 2006 5:45 am
Good news: Macintosh Plus, SE, and Classic have the same CPU at the same clock rate as a Sega Genesis, and a dumb frame buffer instead of a tile/sprite chip.
Bad news: The Macintosh BIOS is both necessary and copyrighted. The Mac BIOS is much more extensive than a typical BIOS, as it contains loads of support routines for the operating system and GUI. Apple reserves all rights under copyright in Mac OS components including the BIOS, which means that somebody is going to have to write a Mac-clone BIOS in MC68000 assembly language or a high-level-emulated BIOS in C. (This has been done for Mac OS X but not for classic Mac OS 6.x-9.x.)
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#93293 - Dan2552 - Tue Jul 18, 2006 11:53 am
| tepples wrote: |
Good news: Macintosh Plus, SE, and Classic have the same CPU at the same clock rate as a Sega Genesis, and a dumb frame buffer instead of a tile/sprite chip.
Bad news: The Macintosh BIOS is both necessary and copyrighted. The Mac BIOS is much more extensive than a typical BIOS, as it contains loads of support routines for the operating system and GUI. Apple reserves all rights under copyright in Mac OS components including the BIOS, which means that somebody is going to have to write a Mac-clone BIOS in MC68000 assembly language or a high-level-emulated BIOS in C. (This has been done for Mac OS X but not for classic Mac OS 6.x-9.x.) |
I'm sure they'd be available in other places.. just aslong as no one here distributes it we should be fine :D
#93295 - PhoenixSoft - Tue Jul 18, 2006 12:11 pm
There is a working port of Basilisk II available on the PSP - it will be neat to have Mac OS application binaries compatible with both the DS and PSP, even though the capabilities are limited.
#93446 - Lazy1 - Wed Jul 19, 2006 4:39 am
I'll clear up a few things here:
You do need to obtain a valid macintosh plus rom file inorder to use this emulator, there are utilities available to use which can dump from a working mac plus.
[ Remove if unacceptable for this forum, I am assuming only legal use ]
If you only own the rom chip itself or your mac plus is broken, the rom is available for download in some places.
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The emulated screen is just under 2x bigger than the DS's screen at 512x342. This limitation is handled by centering the background over the cursor.
As for speed, I have it running at between 16 and 22fps load/desktop which for some games and apps is very usable.
Sim Ant for example, works very well and is very playable at 16-18fps.
There is also TONS of room for improvement in the 68k core, especially with memory operations.
( And I cannot use cyclone due to license incompatibilities )
One thing holding me back now is the lack of a keyboard, I simply can't draw one good enough.
So if someone wants to donate keyboard graphics...
#93452 - arog - Wed Jul 19, 2006 5:41 am
| Quote: |
One thing holding me back now is the lack of a keyboard, I simply can't draw one good enough.
So if someone wants to donate keyboard graphics...
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Have you seen Headkaze's keyboards? One may be (close to) what you need: http://headkaze.webpal.info/
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#93454 - Lazy1 - Wed Jul 19, 2006 5:44 am
Actually, the author of mini vmac just donated a keyboard :)
#93493 - DynamicStability - Wed Jul 19, 2006 3:43 pm
These guy's like to 1up each other.
#93504 - jmk - Wed Jul 19, 2006 4:19 pm
| tepples wrote: |
Bad news: ... somebody is going to have to write a Mac-clone BIOS in MC68000 assembly language or a high-level-emulated BIOS in C. (This has been done for Mac OS X but not for classic Mac OS 6.x-9.x.) |
Somebody did a long time ago (mid 90's), coupled it with a 68k emulator/binary translator and called it "Executor." It used to be a commercial product, but the company that made it recently went out of business.
Supposedly, there was a chance that they would release the source, but their page is down now. That would have made an interesting port.
(Note: GNUstep is something totally different; it's just a desktop application API.)
#93536 - Ryan FB - Wed Jul 19, 2006 7:35 pm
| Lazy1 wrote: |
There is also TONS of room for improvement in the 68k core, especially with memory operations.
( And I cannot use cyclone due to license incompatibilities ) |
If you're in contact with the author of Mini vMac, you could maybe see if he'd be up for allowing you to add this to the license in your distribution: | Quote: |
| As a special exception, <name of copyright holder> gives permission to link this program with the Cyclone 68k core, and distribute the resulting executable, without relicensing the source code for the Cyclone 68k core in the source distribution. |
It's similar to the FSF-approved exception for linking against the non-commercial Qt libraries. I would think this would be acceptable to him even if he wants to preserve the "Free-ness" of Mini vMac, as a completely Free version could still be built by not using the #define for Cyclone and using the original core instead. If not, you could maybe contact Cyclone's author and see if he'd give you permission for GPL relicensing your distribution of it.
#94494 - Lazy1 - Tue Jul 25, 2006 1:57 am
Alpha version up at my site:
http://lazyone.drunkencoders.com/wordpress/index.php
Have fun and remember to let me know of any serious bugs.
#94520 - clone dad - Tue Jul 25, 2006 4:14 am
well, when i get it started, i get to a screen that i guess is supposed to make me choose what mouse mode I want to use, and from there the only buttons that do anything are the left and right shoulder button(which changes the mouse mode)
the top screen is black.
I guess this would be classified as a serious bug.
Using a gbamp and Max media launcher.
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#94525 - Lazy1 - Tue Jul 25, 2006 4:35 am
Keep in mind that it takes 5-10 seconds to even show anything on the top display.
Failing that, make sure that the following file is in the root of your CF card:
vmac.rom
#94528 - chatterbug89 - Tue Jul 25, 2006 5:00 am
Hmm, it's not realy working for me either. I started it, waited for the background to load, then used my stylus to center on the screen, and finally pressed start and waited. I've been waiting for a long time and nothing ahs happened. I've restarted it a few times and what nto with no luck. I'll try re-copyring the image to my compact flash card again..maybe that's the problem.
#94529 - Lazy1 - Tue Jul 25, 2006 5:02 am
Does the disk icon appear?
Please verify that the following files are in the root of your CF card:
vmac.rom
mac_hd.img
#94537 - chatterbug89 - Tue Jul 25, 2006 6:49 am
yep, they are both on my Compact Flash card. As for the disc icon, what happens is, the bottom screen stuff loads, and about 10 secounds later a background loads, which i can center with the stylus. However, the background seems sort of corrupted. By that, I mean there are a bunch of repeating segements of line covering the whole background. I can take a picture if you'd like.
#94539 - Kir - Tue Jul 25, 2006 6:55 am
Good work, Lazy1 ! I've managed to run it on a M3 CF with no problems at all. The only minor issue - screen flickers when upper screen is in motion. But I think this effect is being produced by OS background (more precisely, its chessboard-like pattern ), not emulator code.
#94549 - JaJa - Tue Jul 25, 2006 9:13 am
I have the same problem as chatterbug.
Using GBAMP.
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#94550 - amiga - Tue Jul 25, 2006 9:18 am
Are you using the latest Chishm's FAT library with supercard sd support?
Because I've tried this on my supercard sd and it reads the rom properly and I've got a similar problem than other people here but without any graphic errors and I press start and nothing happens and the mac is still with the question mark.
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#94551 - JaJa - Tue Jul 25, 2006 9:20 am
It appears the ROM file could be case sensitive.
I tried vMac.ROM instead of vmac.rom and now I get up to the disk with the question mark (no system disk found).
Aha, just pressed start, now it's booting.
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#94554 - Al3xDS - Tue Jul 25, 2006 9:28 am
Does this support Supercard Mini SD?
I can get up to the part where you hit 'Start' to load the ROM, a little smiley computer pops up briefly then the screen refreshes, and I get the ? disk image.
#94563 - daninski - Tue Jul 25, 2006 11:05 am
i have a similar problem to everyone. i push start and i get happy disc face and then it goes back to the question mark :(
supercard sd in my thing
#94573 - Lazy1 - Tue Jul 25, 2006 12:16 pm
Hmm, if it shows the happy mac icon then restarts to a question mark that means it's having problems reading the disk image.
Make sure your card is free of errors and defragmented.
I am also not using the latest fat library as it does not work at all with this emulator. I'll have to look into why these problems are showing up.
#94604 - Critical_Impact - Tue Jul 25, 2006 1:47 pm
Does the same thing on my SC SD.
#94610 - clone dad - Tue Jul 25, 2006 2:35 pm
actually, i I put vmac.rom back on the card, (apparently it had become corrupted while copying) and now, it works great!!
it'll even let me save the text and the pictures I draw!
using gbamp.
this is truly amazing work.
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#94613 - Lazy1 - Tue Jul 25, 2006 2:46 pm
Good to hear you got it working.
I'm still trying to figure out why it's having problems reading from certain devices/setups - if anyone wants the source to help me out it is available on request.
The only things I can suggest to everyone else is:
1) Verify that minivmac.nds, vMac.ROM and mac_hd.img are in your root directory.
2) Make sure your disc is not corrupted
3) Defragment your disc
Also make sure you have a valid Macintosh ROM, if you dumped it try dumping it again or obtain from a different source.
#94615 - clone dad - Tue Jul 25, 2006 2:52 pm
is there any way that we'll be able to get old mac programs and put them on there?
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#94622 - Lazy1 - Tue Jul 25, 2006 3:08 pm
On a mac, it's just one step: Double click mac_hd.img
On a PC...
1) Download HFV Explorer
2) Rename mac_hd.img to mac_hd.hfv
3) Download the mac file using save as, making sure that "All Files" is selected in the type drop box
4) Open HFV Explorer
5) Open your disk image
6) Drag the downloaded file into your mac hd image
7) Close HFV Explorer
8) Rename mac_hd.hfv to mac_hd.img
That works about 80% of the time, for me anyway.
#94625 - clone dad - Tue Jul 25, 2006 3:15 pm
the hfv explorer site isnt working...
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#94627 - Roc - Tue Jul 25, 2006 3:32 pm
This is very impressive! Works perfectly on my GBAMP.
#94632 - MiL0 - Tue Jul 25, 2006 4:09 pm
| chatterbug89 wrote: |
| yep, they are both on my Compact Flash card. As for the disc icon, what happens is, the bottom screen stuff loads, and about 10 secounds later a background loads, which i can center with the stylus. However, the background seems sort of corrupted. By that, I mean there are a bunch of repeating segements of line covering the whole background. I can take a picture if you'd like. |
I get the same thing on my Supercard SD... defragged and checked for errors... gonna try renaming the rom file.
oh yeah, and I used SATA's SC convertor... gonna try running it from dsorganize in a minute.
#94636 - Thomas - Tue Jul 25, 2006 4:45 pm
Working great on my M3 CF.
#94637 - MiL0 - Tue Jul 25, 2006 4:52 pm
| MiL0 wrote: |
| chatterbug89 wrote: | | yep, they are both on my Compact Flash card. As for the disc icon, what happens is, the bottom screen stuff loads, and about 10 secounds later a background loads, which i can center with the stylus. However, the background seems sort of corrupted. By that, I mean there are a bunch of repeating segements of line covering the whole background. I can take a picture if you'd like. |
I get the same thing on my Supercard SD... defragged and checked for errors... gonna try renaming the rom file.
oh yeah, and I used SATA's SC convertor... gonna try running it from dsorganize in a minute. |
nope - neither helped.. still coming up with the weird glitchy desktop which I can scroll around but that's about it!
#94652 - clone dad - Tue Jul 25, 2006 5:40 pm
| Lazy1 wrote: |
1) Download HFV Explorer
2) Rename mac_hd.img to mac_hd.hfv
3) Download the mac file using save as, making sure that "All Files" is selected in the type drop box
4) Open HFV Explorer
5) Open your disk image
6) Drag the downloaded file into your mac hd image
7) Close HFV Explorer
8) Rename mac_hd.hfv to mac_hd.img
That works about 80% of the time, for me anyway. |
I follow those steps and put my .hqx program on the hfv file and rename it to img, and i get an error every time I try to open up the file.
p.s: is there any way that you're going to get internet working on it?
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#94656 - socket - Tue Jul 25, 2006 5:47 pm
I'm having problems with the SC Mini SD as well. Probably Fat lib issues... Oh well, time to dig up my SC CF... :) Awesome work, btw.
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#94660 - ?hr - Tue Jul 25, 2006 6:08 pm
everything seems to load for around 30sec, and then, a white and black mixture appears on the topscreen... maybe the vmac.rom is defect??? im using a gbamp!
#94661 - Lazy1 - Tue Jul 25, 2006 6:13 pm
If you touch the center of the touchscreen, can you see the disk with the flashing question mark on it?
Is vMac.ROM in the root of your CF card?
Is your CF card defragmented?
Did you check your CF card for errors?
And about networking, not possible at the moment since it wasn't implemented in the mini vmac sources. Maybe sometime in the future.
#94662 - Lazy1 - Tue Jul 25, 2006 6:14 pm
| clone dad wrote: |
I follow those steps and put my .hqx program on the hfv file and rename it to img, and i get an error every time I try to open up the file.
p.s: is there any way that you're going to get internet working on it?
|
You must open the hqx file with Stuffit Expander, it was included on the disk image in the "Applications Folder".
#94665 - ?hr - Tue Jul 25, 2006 6:17 pm
i see only a black boarder(i can move around) and in the middle is a black and white picture?? theres no questionmark etc...
yeah vmac.rom is on the root of my card. the card is fragmented... im currently saving the data of the card to format the whole card!
how can i check for errors?
#94666 - Lazy1 - Tue Jul 25, 2006 6:24 pm
chkdsk /f drive:
Also, is there any way you can take a picture of what your seeing?
#94667 - ?hr - Tue Jul 25, 2006 6:25 pm
ill do, just wait a bit, please :D
EDIT: There arent any errors(checked)
EDIT2: Heres a picture of the problem: http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/5313/dsc01783rg7.jpg
#94668 - amiga - Tue Jul 25, 2006 6:39 pm
It's seems it doesn't work on the supercard sd because you are using an old version of chishm fat library.
In older versions of the library supercard sd access only worked reading but not writing and maybe this is fine when it reads the bios but not when it reads the system image because maybe needs to save or something else.
You could try to use latest version of the fat library or a different version like moonshell or SATA that work properly on supercard sd and many others cards.
Anyway, thank you for your great job.
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#94669 - Lazy1 - Tue Jul 25, 2006 6:41 pm
Can you try and re-obtain your vMac.ROM?
I developed this using the gbamp and the only problems I had went away after downgrading the fat library from libfat to the one used in REIN.
#94671 - Mr. Picklesworth - Tue Jul 25, 2006 6:44 pm
?hr:
You have to press Start to start. (I think this is what you're describing...).
Lazyone: AMAZING!
I never thought I would like a Mac this much :)
Running FlashMe 6 and GBAMP.
Edit:
Hmm... unless that picture is messed up, I'm obviously wrong.
(Lucky DS-Lite people...)
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#94672 - ?hr - Tue Jul 25, 2006 6:50 pm
| Lazy1 wrote: |
Can you try and re-obtain your vMac.ROM?
I developed this using the gbamp and the only problems I had went away after downgrading the fat library from libfat to the one used in REIN. |
mh? what do you? what should i try?
EDIT: YAY! It works! i just renamed the vmac.rom to vMac.ROM!!!! yahooo
#94674 - clone dad - Tue Jul 25, 2006 6:53 pm
lazy1, when i follow your instructions to get software on there i get the same error as before. :-/
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#94675 - Lazy1 - Tue Jul 25, 2006 7:01 pm
You could look at transmac, it's a 30 day trial though.
Someone mentioned another program on IRC but I forget what it was called.
Also, good to hear that you got it working - now the bigger question is why does the rom get read corrupt when the filename capitalization changes?
Isn't FAT case insensitive?
#94683 - Pinesal - Tue Jul 25, 2006 8:02 pm
I've renamed the file and I'm still getting garbage. Maybe I have a bad rom. What size should the rom be?
EDIT: Seems I have the wrong rom...
#94754 - clone dad - Wed Jul 26, 2006 1:17 am
I got it working, there is a bug where newly created folders dont appear. Eventually it showed up.
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#94784 - Lazy1 - Wed Jul 26, 2006 3:23 am
It may take some time, but also check that it wasn't hidden behind other icons.
You must also go to Special->Shutdown before powering off your DS, this ensures that all changes are written to disk.
#94790 - clone dad - Wed Jul 26, 2006 3:45 am
i was just about to tell you that i did find the folders behind other icons
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#94800 - Mr. Picklesworth - Wed Jul 26, 2006 4:41 am
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| i was just about to tell you that i did find the folders behind other icons |
Hahahahaha! I've heard of that bug before :P
I can see lots of room for exciting stuff here, so good luck with this. I'm looking forward to see where it can go :)
Who needs a colourful OS like Windows when you can just run an ancient MacOS on a DS?
I'm noticing it has an interesting opinion on the time:
Recently started, it says 11:02:56 PM. Its date is 11/4/5.
Also, do open windows remain open if I turn it off improperly? (Just pressing the power button instead of going to Shutdown).
Seems to be happening, and I'm trying to decide if it's a purposeful feature :)
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#94804 - brennan - Wed Jul 26, 2006 5:06 am
I know you probably can't help me out on this, but I can't find the mac_hd.img file anywhere. Google only shows one result.
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#94805 - Lazy1 - Wed Jul 26, 2006 5:45 am
I had to remove mac_hd.img due to possible legal issues with Apple, you will have to create your own mac_hd.img and install system software on it using the PC version of mini vmac.
It's not that hard to do, there are many guides out there on how to do it and once you learn it things will be much easier from then on.
As for windows remaining open, no idea - I always shut down.
And I know the date/time is wrong, I'm still trying to work out why the emulator does not like the time given to it from the DS RTC.
A side note:
I have all the code in place for supporting read only disks in ROM and a writable disk in SRAM.
Once I receive my supercard cf ( ordering tomorrow ) I'll be able to test it out and make sure everything works so atleast you M3/Supercard SD users will have something to play with.
#94817 - Durandle - Wed Jul 26, 2006 8:49 am
Looks pretty amazing, and the speeds more than I would have thought.
Now I can't remember, but doesn't the Mac Plus support system 7.5.5? There maybe memory issues with that of course. Also, could a colour screen be emulated?
As for memory, I seem to remember someone writing a lib or something that allowed using the internal 32mb of memory on the M3 devices (maybe others too). That could be useful?
#94826 - miner2049er - Wed Jul 26, 2006 9:11 am
I'm using Mini SD and get the disk icon in the centre of the screen.
When I press start, I get the mac icon then back to the disc and it sits there.
Same as other SD users I guess.
#94850 - JaJa - Wed Jul 26, 2006 12:43 pm
| Durandle wrote: |
Looks pretty amazing, and the speeds more than I would have thought.
Now I can't remember, but doesn't the Mac Plus support system 7.5.5? There maybe memory issues with that of course. Also, could a colour screen be emulated?
As for memory, I seem to remember someone writing a lib or something that allowed using the internal 32mb of memory on the M3 devices (maybe others too). That could be useful? |
The machine only supports B&W, so you would end up with a GB running on GBC look.
You can get 7.5 running in 2Mbyte of RAM, but it's not recommended.
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#94855 - daninski - Wed Jul 26, 2006 1:25 pm
heh, there's a system 6 web browser and AIM :D
how cool :D
http://www.jagshouse.com/classicsoftware.html
#94880 - thundrestrike - Wed Jul 26, 2006 6:08 pm
is the web browser have graphics on it? (not text based) ???
does it work on the nds version?
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#94881 - Madrigal - Wed Jul 26, 2006 6:12 pm
I can't find how to make a hd.img anywhere. Can someone pm me thier file?
#94885 - Lazy1 - Wed Jul 26, 2006 6:40 pm
Take a look here:
http://minivmac.sourceforge.net/doc/start.html
And there is no networking on the nds version as it's not even in the PC version.
#94903 - Madrigal - Wed Jul 26, 2006 8:15 pm
Not working on SC MiniSD here either. It just stays at the disk with a ? after pressing start.
#94908 - Lazy1 - Wed Jul 26, 2006 8:31 pm
You don't have to wait much longer, as soon as I can verify and test some new changes and additions I'll put up another version for M3 SD/Supercard SD/Flashcart users.
#94942 - Lazy1 - Wed Jul 26, 2006 11:28 pm
I have made a quick guide on how to make a bootable system 6.0.8 hard disk image under windows.
http://lazyone.drunkencoders.com/mac_hd_howto.html
#94949 - thundrestrike - Wed Jul 26, 2006 11:55 pm
ok i followed your guide, but will this only install the Mac inside the emulator, or my whole entire PC?
I dont want to erase windows
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#94952 - Lazy1 - Thu Jul 27, 2006 12:14 am
The software will only be installed on the disk image you made.
#94960 - thundrestrike - Thu Jul 27, 2006 12:59 am
thanks, but does it matter how big the mac_hd.img filesize is?
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#94961 - Lazy1 - Thu Jul 27, 2006 1:08 am
If I remember correctly it can be upto 250mb, make sure it's big enough for the system software though so I'd say atleast 5mb.
#94962 - thundrestrike - Thu Jul 27, 2006 1:11 am
ok mines 30 megabytes
and how do I install games on it? [and what games work]
using supercard CF
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#94963 - Lazy1 - Thu Jul 27, 2006 1:18 am
Is it even booting on the DS?
Verify that it works first, I will be writing a guide on installing applications shortly.
I just have to find a method that is the easiest and works the best.
#94965 - thundrestrike - Thu Jul 27, 2006 1:31 am
ya it works perfect
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#94969 - brennan - Thu Jul 27, 2006 2:43 am
Wow, pretty awesome. Can't wait until the tutorial on installing stuff is up.
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#95110 - MiL0 - Thu Jul 27, 2006 10:37 pm
| Lazy1 wrote: |
| You don't have to wait much longer, as soon as I can verify and test some new changes and additions I'll put up another version for M3 SD/Supercard SD/Flashcart users. |
can't wait!
btw - networking won't work unless they enable it in the pc emulated version right? is there no work around at all?
#95114 - Lazy1 - Thu Jul 27, 2006 10:47 pm
Yeah, no networking until the author decides to add it into the main sources.
I did just add a feature that already exists in the other ports, from now on labeling your disk images "disk0.dsk", "disk1.dsk", ect...
Will cause them to be mounted in that order automatically at startup.
So the next release will no longer require you to press START to boot the system.
#95117 - Madrigal - Thu Jul 27, 2006 11:22 pm
Any ETA on the next release? I'm dying to try it on my SC MiniSD.
#95136 - Lazy1 - Fri Jul 28, 2006 12:08 am
Have to wait until my new supercard cf arrives in the mail, could be next week.
#95154 - lambi1982 - Fri Jul 28, 2006 2:28 am
does this mean a win 3.11 emulator is possible.... That would be cool
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#95452 - daninski - Sat Jul 29, 2006 3:43 pm
hey, lazy one. i just tried this with my own disc image and now i'm getting that a system error has occurred. the disc image works with mini vmac on my mac.
odd thing is i was getting a '?' before with the supplied disc image. i'm on a supercardsd...
#95458 - Lazy1 - Sat Jul 29, 2006 4:24 pm
Maybe the old fat library didn't support the Supercard SD?
I should be getting my supercard cf on monday so I can complete romdiskfs support.
#95958 - Lazy1 - Mon Jul 31, 2006 6:50 pm
My supercard has arrived and I have added support for romdiskfs for those users having problems with the release I posted earlier.
The disk in SRAM seems to be working fine, keep in mind that MacOS will ask you to format it after startup so be aware that anything already in SRAM will be destroyed.
I will post updates within the next hour or so.
#95994 - daninski - Mon Jul 31, 2006 8:22 pm
\m/
#96001 - Lazy1 - Mon Jul 31, 2006 8:41 pm
Ok, could someone who had a problem using the original version PM me for a quick test?
I just want to make sure that there are no more problems and that romdiskfs based builds will work for everyone.
#96140 - Lazy1 - Tue Aug 01, 2006 5:19 pm
#96168 - Mr. Picklesworth - Tue Aug 01, 2006 7:18 pm
Sounds good.
Just one problem:
Where the heck do I get Alladin Expander 5?!!!
I see Stuffit Expander, and Alladin Expander 2.1.
Every downlaod link I have encountered for Alladin Expander 5 seems to be broken, and its home page seems to have changed into a horrible Stuffit-touting page with misused Flash buttons. (Has it become a new fad to do static image links with Flash instead of HTML? It seems like a ridiculous waste of time...)
So... Is Alladin Expander actually Stuffit?
Is there another program available that is easier to find and does the same thing?
Edit:
http://www.download.com/3000-2250-905258.html
Yay, a trial! :(
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#96169 - RVK - Tue Aug 01, 2006 7:19 pm
Stuffit will work.
#96171 - Mr. Picklesworth - Tue Aug 01, 2006 7:32 pm
Okay, good to know...
How can I?
Seems like Stuffit and Alladin Expander have pretty different layouts.
With Stuffit 9 Standard Demo, it won't open the SSW_6.0.8-1.4MB_Disk1of2.sea.bin and SSW_6.0.8-1.4MB_Disk2of2.sea.bin files. (At least, not via the Open dialogue).
It seems to be calculating something very very quickly, but nothing is displayed.
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#96178 - Lazy1 - Tue Aug 01, 2006 7:53 pm
You need to follow the guide exactly, you must use stuffit expander version 5.
Just do a quick google for it, I downloaded it no more than a few days ago.
#96183 - Madrigal - Tue Aug 01, 2006 8:05 pm
I tried going into the start menu and running bin\genromfs -f mac_romdisk.bin -d data -V vMac. is that what I'm supposed to do? I'm a bit confused as to how to set it all up. The instructions are very vague.
#96186 - Lazy1 - Tue Aug 01, 2006 8:14 pm
You need to do it from the command line in the mini vmac directory, sorry for leaving that out - I'll update the archive as soon as I can.
#96454 - Ninden - Thu Aug 03, 2006 2:11 pm
Ok, I've got minivmac.nds and vMac.ROM on the root of the card. It boots and I get the ? folder.
Now I have mac_hd.img on the root as well. Does this need to be renamed disk0.dsk?
I've got both (mac_hd.img and mac_hd.img renamed to disk0.dsk) on the root of the card and I'm still getting the ? folder. Did I miss a step here?
It's working fine on the PC vMac.
SuperCard CF
#96456 - daninski - Thu Aug 03, 2006 2:13 pm
press start to mount the hard drive on that '?' screen.
#96621 - Lazy1 - Fri Aug 04, 2006 5:03 am
No, inorder for the system to boot your system disk must be named "disk0.dsk" and in the root of your card.
Ninden:
Try taking the system 6.0.8 boot disk image, copying it to your CF card then try booting mini vmac.
If that doesn't work let me know, it should since I tested it on the Supercard CF.
You can also try launching it from moonshell to see if that helps.
#96671 - MiL0 - Fri Aug 04, 2006 5:24 pm
I still have the same problem with the glitched out crashed looking screen with this new version. Supercard SD and DS Phat.
#96706 - Lazy1 - Fri Aug 04, 2006 9:14 pm
Are you sure that "vMac.ROM" is in the root directory? Capitalization seems to count.
#96785 - Red XIII - Sat Aug 05, 2006 3:08 pm
SC SD here. Doesn't work. What am I doing wrong?
I usually have to rename my .ds.gba to .nds to work. I did it but it showed "Error: Failed to initialize filesystem".
So,for once I tried the "out-of-the-box" .nds file and it started.
But that's as far as it goes.I have in my SC SD root these just to be sure:
minivmac.nds
vMac.ROM
mac_hd.img (5 MB)
disk0.dsk (which is mac_hd.img renamed to disk0.dsk,isn't that correct?)
,run the .nds and it shows the "happy pc face" for a sec and then back to the ? disk pic...
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#96817 - Dan2552 - Sat Aug 05, 2006 6:20 pm
works great with my GBAMP :)
I wish it had a scaled picture on the bottom on the 1:1 mode though ;) if that's possible
also, if it's possible - how about a fake dual color mode, like GBC dual color games
#96874 - brennan - Sun Aug 06, 2006 3:23 am
| Red XIII wrote: |
SC SD here. Doesn't work. What am I doing wrong?
I usually have to rename my .ds.gba to .nds to work. I did it but it showed "Error: Failed to initialize filesystem".
So,for once I tried the "out-of-the-box" .nds file and it started.
But that's as far as it goes.I have in my SC SD root these just to be sure:
minivmac.nds
vMac.ROM
mac_hd.img (5 MB)
disk0.dsk (which is mac_hd.img renamed to disk0.dsk,isn't that correct?)
,run the .nds and it shows the "happy pc face" for a sec and then back to the ? disk pic... |
Could it be something with your mac_hd.img? Mine is 35MB, yours in considerably smaller.
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#96885 - Lazy1 - Sun Aug 06, 2006 4:49 am
I'm pretty sure that the fatlib build won't work on the Supercard SD.
As an alternative until the fat library is fixed, you can use the flashcart build.
#97020 - Kir - Mon Aug 07, 2006 12:33 pm
How about sound support ? I've managed to run Super Studio Session. I've even managed to load some included song files. But when i pressed "Play", my DS remained silent.
#97046 - Lazy1 - Mon Aug 07, 2006 4:55 pm
Unfortunately sound is not possible until emulation is atleast 1x realtime, currently it runs at 1/4 realtime.
#119047 - daninski - Mon Feb 19, 2007 10:47 am
how is this project going? I'm looking forward to the dldi version so i can try it out... assuming that there is going to be one :D
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#119952 - Lazy1 - Tue Feb 27, 2007 9:54 pm
The next release (complete rewrite) will support DLDI.
I don't know when that will be though since there are still some things to do and since I have been sick I haven't been working on it very much.
I have not abandoned the project though, same with wolf3d which I'm working to get music on.
#120097 - Dracker - Thu Mar 01, 2007 12:53 am
http://oldversion.com/program.php?n=sit - StuffIt 5.5 will work to extract the .sea.bin files.
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