#94511 - strongesthylian - Tue Jul 25, 2006 3:18 am
So we have wifi games that involve playing with other people. But no one ever goes on to play these games!
What is the point of creating these multiplayer online homebrew games if there's no one to play with, other than experience for the authors of these games?
Would it be a good idea for someone to make some sort of database, where people can get together to play these games together?
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#94512 - Mr. Picklesworth - Tue Jul 25, 2006 3:21 am
Perhaps an addition to the wifi lib (or just a seperate bit of code, since it's a rather obscure feature) that sends a message to a server (ndshb, perhaps, for the sake of centralization?) which keeps track of people trying to play online games.
And... what game do you want to play?
Perhaps we can schedule something :)
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#94513 - brennan - Tue Jul 25, 2006 3:21 am
I was just thinking about this the other day. The creator of Explosive Gas and A Touch of War has created a server-side application that shows when a game is being hosted, maybe someone will use it to create a dsmeet-ish type site for homebrew wifi games.
http://atouchofwar.com/tools.php
EDIT: Wow, I think that is EXACTLY what Picklesworth was talking about...
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#94517 - strongesthylian - Tue Jul 25, 2006 3:58 am
Let's see:
A Touch of War
Explosive Gas
Blubb
are 3 wifi homebrew DS games I can think of. Any more?
I wanna see 8 players doing Explosive Gas.
If any of you wanna play with me, my contact info is in my profile.
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#94519 - brennan - Tue Jul 25, 2006 4:10 am
A Touch of War is online now.
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#94583 - derula - Tue Jul 25, 2006 1:09 pm
I would play online, but my damn-expensive Nintendo USB-connector broke, and I don't want to go upstairs where our other AP is to play.
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#94608 - JimmyL - Tue Jul 25, 2006 2:25 pm
I would play online, but I lend my ds to a friend, and returned the other ds I was using for testing to another friend. :)
A Touch of War is a little more complicated to setup a game, since the host player needs to be online sitting in his 'lobby' waiting for a player to join since there's no join in progress, and odds are no one is sitting around with a ds turned on running atow refreshing the server list waiting for a game to be hosted. The best bet would be to coordinate a game with a friend, ask someone in IRC, or post a day/time you're going to run a server in the chat room on my site, and hope someone sees your message and joins your game. And, of course, you need to be forwarding port 9999 to your ds if you want to host.
With Explosive Gas, Lynx has been making life a bit easier by running a server almost constantly, that way people that want to play don't need to worry about port forwarding, and they can at least constantly kill lynx's zombie player while they wait for new players to join.
And ya, I've never played explosive gas with more than 5 players, I'm curious to see if it works with 8 :) Let's set up "Homebrew Wednesday's" and all get together to play some of these games at, say, 7pm EST every week... or at least this week...
Jimmy
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#94638 - Mr. Picklesworth - Tue Jul 25, 2006 4:53 pm
7 EST is good for me :)
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#94737 - brennan - Tue Jul 25, 2006 11:58 pm
Sounds good to me.
(You said you have a script that lists games being hosted, why don't you use it?)
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#94739 - thundrestrike - Wed Jul 26, 2006 12:19 am
im in :)
setting my alarm to 5:55 my time (which is 6:55 EST)
we'll be playing explosive gas, right?
where can I get the latest version?
we all want to use the same one, dont we :D
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#94742 - Mr. Picklesworth - Wed Jul 26, 2006 12:27 am
Actually, err.... whose EST is this?
Assuming it's North American, right now.
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#94743 - thundrestrike - Wed Jul 26, 2006 12:49 am
yeah, its EST north america
just search "current EST time" in google to see EST in relation to your time zone
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#94744 - strongesthylian - Wed Jul 26, 2006 12:54 am
I'm guess 7PM EST (GMT -4)
For me, it would be 4 PM PST (GMT -7)
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#94745 - Diffuse - Wed Jul 26, 2006 12:55 am
7 PM Eastern! Sounds great... Im definitely in. I could host the game since I already got the ports forwarded (and I have also tested a simple 2 people game).
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#94758 - thundrestrike - Wed Jul 26, 2006 1:34 am
so this is the people we have so far for tomorrow at 7est
-JimmyL (?) did you get your DS back for tomorrow? confirm please
-Mr. Picklesworth
-Thundrestrike (me) [confirmed]
-Brennan
-strongesthylian (?) [confirmed]
-Diffuse (the hoster!)
whoever is on this list, please confirm that you are going to be here, then I will write a bold "[confirmed]" next to your name, so your place cannot be taken. We still need a few more people for Explosive Gas!
And set those alarms to 6:55 EST and get on GBADEV with those DS's!
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#94762 - JimmyL - Wed Jul 26, 2006 1:53 am
Excellent, sounds like we almost have an 8 player game going :) I'll have to get my ds back... otherwise I can play with my ultra-beta(almost no graphics) PC version :) But even if I don't get it back, I can guarantee the guy who has it will be joining in as well.
brennan, I am using that code, if you hit 'join game' in either Explosive Gas or AToW, you should get a list of currently running hosts. Actually, I just threw together a web page so even without a ds you can check if anyone is hosting. http://www.atouchofwar.com/Servers.php
thundrestrike, ouch, 6am for a game... hopefully people will stick around for a while if you get up later :)
Feel free to assemble in my chat room, http://www.atouchofwar.com/Chat/ before/after/around the time of the game, in case there's any need to coordinate anything, not that there should be.
Jimmy
quick edit: thundrestrike, the latest version is on my site, but up to now, all versions I've released work together so you don't absolutely need the latest, but I've fixed a few client-side only bugs that make it nicer to have it.
#94764 - thundrestrike - Wed Jul 26, 2006 1:59 am
6am? i thought it was 6PM ?
| JimmyL wrote: |
| Let's set up "Homebrew Wednesday's" and all get together to play some of these games at, say, 7pm EST every week... or at least this week... |
you said so yourself
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#94767 - JimmyL - Wed Jul 26, 2006 2:21 am
Doh, sorry, my mistake, completely misunderstood you... I thought you had to set your alarm for 5:55 your time to wake up... I assumed you were in thailand or something :)
Ya, 7pm definitely.
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#94769 - brennan - Wed Jul 26, 2006 2:29 am
Wow, I just played someone...
Anyone named Jake here?
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#94770 - thundrestrike - Wed Jul 26, 2006 2:29 am
me
i just played CloneDad and Brennan [at separate times]
wanna get back on?
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#94772 - brennan - Wed Jul 26, 2006 2:30 am
Now I'm on clonedad's server.
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#94773 - thundrestrike - Wed Jul 26, 2006 2:31 am
i just joined, waiting for next round
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#94774 - clone dad - Wed Jul 26, 2006 2:35 am
heh heh, i just left it :-) ill rejoin
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#94775 - thundrestrike - Wed Jul 26, 2006 2:38 am
this is fun!
clonedad, im on as Jake
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#94777 - thundrestrike - Wed Jul 26, 2006 2:44 am
alright im off
that was fun!
congrats on the homebrew JimmyL!
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#94780 - strongesthylian - Wed Jul 26, 2006 2:58 am
I plan on joining at 7PM EST tomorrow. Confirm me.
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#94794 - brennan - Wed Jul 26, 2006 4:02 am
Anyone that doesn't know how to port forward: http://bcminer.atspace.com/nitro/portforwarding.html
(that might be a crappy tut if you don't use a 2WIRE router, but oh well)
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#94803 - Lynx - Wed Jul 26, 2006 4:52 am
This might be a little more helpful, as it gives specific instructions for many routers/firewalls
http://www.portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/routerindex.htm
So, select your router and pick whatever you want from the list (example, 1st SMTP server) Just remember that you need to forward 9999 to the IP address of your DS displayed on the Join/Join LAN/Host menu screen and not the port they list on the specific page.
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#94808 - Mr. Picklesworth - Wed Jul 26, 2006 6:38 am
Wow!
6 player, 2-screen bomberman :)
Sadly, I can't get the full experience right now because my evil brother is running bittorrent (with the worst possible application), but I am looking forward to the next time!
I'm Dylan in the game, BTW. (Too lazy to change my DS's name).
Currently playing as the Santa-Clause-looking guy :)
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#94811 - brennan - Wed Jul 26, 2006 6:50 am
Yeah, this game is genius.
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#94812 - strongesthylian - Wed Jul 26, 2006 6:51 am
| Mr. Picklesworth wrote: |
Wow!
I'm Dylan in the game, BTW. (Too lazy to change my DS's name).
Currently playing as the Santa-Clause-looking guy :) |
More like David the Gnome
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#94814 - strongesthylian - Wed Jul 26, 2006 6:57 am
Hey guys, if you're playing Explosive Gas, make a jump to
http://www.atouchofwar.com/Chat/
That way, we can talk during games.
I also had the idea of some sort of Ventrilo server, but I don't know who'd be able to host it, because I can't.
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#94877 - thundrestrike - Wed Jul 26, 2006 5:58 pm
anyone else wanna join/confirm themselves for 7pm EST?
This is what we have so far
-JimmyL (?)
-Devil_Spawn [confirmed]
-Thundrestrike (me) [confirmed]
-Brennan
-strongesthylian [confirmed]
-Diffuse (the hoster!) [confirmed]
-(empty)
-(empty)
Please post here to confirm that you will definatly be here.
I will write [confirmed] next to your name
Mr. Picklesworth has been taken off the list due to his evil brother and bitorrent. If he changes his mind and wants to be added again, please let me know
6 hours from this post until it is time!
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#94878 - Diffuse - Wed Jul 26, 2006 6:03 pm
I'll be there... Mark me as confirmed!
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#94879 - thundrestrike - Wed Jul 26, 2006 6:05 pm
done :)
anyone else?
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#94882 - Devil_Spawn - Wed Jul 26, 2006 6:18 pm
12pm gmt, might be able to make it, how long u guys planning on playing? and what are you playing on? i wont have pc access~ but would like 2 play
#94887 - thundrestrike - Wed Jul 26, 2006 6:50 pm
we will be playing JimmyL's homebrew wifi game "explosive gas" on the DS
we will play as long as we feel like it i guess
it would be nice to have computer acess for the chat room we will be in
do you want me to add you to the list?
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#94890 - Devil_Spawn - Wed Jul 26, 2006 7:02 pm
yeah i will play, do u think retawq would be compatible with the chat room??? (second ds)
EDIT: it is, so i should be able to do that, hopefully, add me and count me as confirmed
#94898 - thundrestrike - Wed Jul 26, 2006 7:49 pm
will do
-JimmyL (?)
-Devil_Spawn [confirmed]
-Thundrestrike (me) [confirmed]
-Brennan
-strongesthylian [confirmed]
-Diffuse (the hoster!) [confirmed]
-(empty)
-(empty)
this is the list so far.
4 hours and 10 minutes from this post time!
We need 2 more players, and brennan and JimmyL to confirm
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#94904 - strongesthylian - Wed Jul 26, 2006 8:16 pm
If any of you wanna use Teamspeak when we play, I found a public server that we can use. It's called "(Goat Public)". Its IP is 68.178.169.45:8767.
I made a channel called "Explosive Gas". The password is "jimmy".
If there is no channel, then create it in that way. I hope to see you in four hours!
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#94905 - Mr. Picklesworth - Wed Jul 26, 2006 8:21 pm
I know the bandwidth thief's password, and he isn't here, so I'm in :)
A quick request, too:
Please, never, ever use Azureus if you are operating on a network. It may look nice, but really, all you need is a simple bittorrent program like the one that comes with Ubuntu Linux (sorry, forget the name... just labeled as BitTorrent. Probably built into Gnome).
Sure, it's simple and doesn't have fancy graphs or a fancy name or many download options, but it's also fast and it doesn't destroy your network.
Azureus, on the other hand, seems to hog every bit of bandwidth it can get its hands on even if it's only downloading at 1 kB/s. Not only that, but it seems to cause so much havok to my network that the router is taking a minute to even return DNS information and DHCP has stopped working. (And I think it killed a gerbil).
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#94911 - thundrestrike - Wed Jul 26, 2006 8:48 pm
so Mr. Picklesworth, I can add you and confirm you?
and anyway, lets use JimmyL's ATOW chat room
3 hours and 12 minutes!
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#94912 - brennan - Wed Jul 26, 2006 9:01 pm
Confirmed.
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#94919 - thundrestrike - Wed Jul 26, 2006 9:40 pm
-JimmyL (?) will you be here?
-Devil_Spawn [confirmed]
-Thundrestrike (me) [confirmed]
-Brennan[confirmed]
-strongesthylian [confirmed]
-Diffuse (the hoster!) [confirmed]
-Mr. Picklesworth (?) can I confirm you?
-PeterFile[confirmed]
2 hours 20 minutes from this post!
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#94926 - PeterFile - Wed Jul 26, 2006 10:17 pm
You can count me in - i'll play.
#94940 - thundrestrike - Wed Jul 26, 2006 11:26 pm
gotcha
24 minutes from this post!
set your alarm clocks people!
and try to sit kind of close to your AP, to make sure everyone has a nice steady connection and it wont lag so bad
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#94950 - thundrestrike - Wed Jul 26, 2006 11:57 pm
ok people! its starting soon!
Meet here!
http://www.atouchofwar.com/Chat/
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#94953 - thundrestrike - Thu Jul 27, 2006 12:30 am
we need more people, join the chat room and join the game!
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#94954 - Liquidnumb - Thu Jul 27, 2006 12:32 am
I tried joining in, but I couldn't stay connected for long. Eventually it would just sort of freeze up. Seemed like it just dropped too many packets.
Also, on a side note, Azureus is a fine BT client. If it seems like it's hogging all the bandwidth when downloading at 1kb/s it's probably because it's actually choking your upstream. Limit the number of connections and throttle the bandwidth - especially the upstream. Then you should be okay. If your buddy won't do it or doesn't know how, you could probably just sneak on and do it for him. I doubt he'd ever notice the difference, but I'm certain that you would.
#94957 - thundrestrike - Thu Jul 27, 2006 12:53 am
Same time tomorrow folks!
we dont need a list, just join the chat room whenever
it was fun! I highly recomend people to join!
JimmyL even released a new version for us that makes it crash less!
woohoo!
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#94978 - strongesthylian - Thu Jul 27, 2006 4:53 am
I didn't make it today, even though I said I was going. Something came up with work and I had to go to Nextel... Sucked. I got pushed around to other stores to get the phones fixed.
I'll be there tomorrow, though.
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#95016 - Devil_Spawn - Thu Jul 27, 2006 10:18 am
w00t that was great fun, cu guys again later!
#95132 - thundrestrike - Thu Jul 27, 2006 11:58 pm
its 7PM EST!!!!
time to play!
Its fun fun fun!!!
JOIN US!!!
http://www.atouchofwar.com/Chat/
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