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DS Misc > DS has gb and gbc processors?!

#104614 - omaremad - Sat Sep 30, 2006 9:53 pm

I just found this link, i hope it hasnt been posted before.
http://io-burn.livejournal.com/23021.html
How do people find this stuff out always amazes me.

#104617 - HyperHacker - Sat Sep 30, 2006 10:02 pm

It was posted before and ruled to be fake. He probably just crammed the innards of a GBA flash cart in there or wrote a WMB app to fake a title screen.
Now if anyone does this and posts a video of them playing the game in a GB Color, then putting it in their DS, turning it on, and playing it there too, I'll retract my statement.
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#104618 - MaHe - Sat Sep 30, 2006 10:06 pm

It is fake and will probably brick your DS!
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#104619 - tepples - Sat Sep 30, 2006 10:07 pm

I'd guess this is Goomba. Notice the lack of any indication of "wide" mode (which the GBA gives when you push L), which Goomba does not support.
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#104623 - Anga - Sat Sep 30, 2006 10:20 pm

Huh, never seen that one before, even though it seems to be fairly old.

And... while all the "zomg it works" post might be fake, i haven't seen any "zomg it bricked my DS" posts. Only assumptions that it will brick a DS.

Really don't know what to think of that one. And i'm neither courageous enough to try, nor do i have the money to afford a new DS. :P
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#104627 - Mr. Picklesworth - Sat Sep 30, 2006 10:48 pm

Well, the zomg it bricks my DS posts could have been removed by the author, and the zomg it works posts could have been added by the author.

I'm not going to try this, but I will accept its existence if the author posts a video with sound and a demonstration of a decent frame rate.
As is... Nah.
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#104628 - mntorankusu - Sat Sep 30, 2006 10:51 pm

For this to work there would have to be a physical voltage switch like there is in the GBA, wouldn't there?

#104632 - josath - Sun Oct 01, 2006 12:16 am

it's completely fake, sorry guys. also pretty old (check the date)

#104656 - Schlagzeuger - Sun Oct 01, 2006 7:53 am

mntorankusu wrote:
For this to work there would have to be a physical voltage switch like there is in the GBA, wouldn't there?
Not to mention it would also need a physical z88 cpu to run GB natively, something the GBA has and the DS does NOT... very suss and also easy to fake.

#104679 - HyperHacker - Sun Oct 01, 2006 2:35 pm

The DS could easily emulate the GBC, and I remain convinced that adding a voltage switch like the GBA had and putting an emulator in the firmware wouldn't have signifigantly increased costs. Ah well.
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#104690 - Darkflame - Sun Oct 01, 2006 4:32 pm

HyperHacker wrote:
The DS could easily emulate the GBC, and I remain convinced that adding a voltage switch like the GBA had and putting an emulator in the firmware wouldn't have signifigantly increased costs. Ah well.


Indeed, but it probably would have pushed the release date back.
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#104691 - Firon - Sun Oct 01, 2006 4:40 pm

Intelligent Systems could probably have designed one easily. :D

#104971 - HyperHacker - Wed Oct 04, 2006 8:32 pm

Hm, this reminds me. A while back I heard someone was playing with the "RAM speed control" or something in an emulator (some undocumented function that only works on original GBAs that could adjust the memory speed) on a GB Micro, and got it to reboot in GBC mode. I'm guessing that was fake too, but did anyone hear anything else about it?
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#104979 - knight0fdragon - Wed Oct 04, 2006 9:49 pm

if nintendo wanted the DS to support gb games, they would of listed it as a feature
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#105047 - pas - Thu Oct 05, 2006 1:39 pm

And, is this true:

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7. OPTIONAL: While you've got the DS open, how would you like to increase the range of the wireless multiplay abilities? Simply solder a wire from the antenna port to the nearby anchor solder for the DS cartidge slot. Your DS will then use both the internal antenna as well as all of the internal grounded shielding inside of the DS to send and receive multiplay signals! This effectively DOUBLED the range of my DS's wireless.


?

Or is it just a fake too ?

If it *would* be true then I guess that it would consume more power, right ?

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#105048 - theDJ - Thu Oct 05, 2006 1:41 pm

I am quite sure that somewhere on the Nintendo website it explicitly states that the NDS does not have a gb/gbc chip.

#105063 - dualscreenman - Thu Oct 05, 2006 4:44 pm

...which is why gb/ gbc games aren't compatible.
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#105110 - Alex Atkin UK - Fri Oct 06, 2006 1:10 am

And if turning all the grounded areas of the DS into an antenna was a "safe" option, dont you think Nintendo would have just done it? Do you REALLY want to be directing microwave frequencies directly at the negative poll of EVERY SINGLE PIECE OF THE DS! I think not!

Also as was said before, Nintendo would not have withheld a feature in the DS hardware that could be enabled with a couple of rewires. Its in their best intrest to remain as backwards compatible as possible so had it been a plausable option, they would have done it. I also seem to remember it being proved both those wires are soldered to the WiFi hardware, one is DEFINATELY the antenna port and the other I believe is the WiFi controller chip.
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#105127 - Devil_Spawn - Fri Oct 06, 2006 8:00 am

plus the sound goest thrugh that wire too, dunno what that might effect

#105195 - Dracker - Fri Oct 06, 2006 5:37 pm

I'm guessing that the hack he did wasn't the hack he described.

The hack he did was more likely case-modding a flashcart with goomba on it to use the pokemon cart's case, and slicing either the case or the slot down so it fits in the gba slot (which is keyed such that gb/gbc games don't normally fit).