#104925 - MaHe - Wed Oct 04, 2006 9:21 am
amadeus of the DSLinux forums has implemented a rather nice GUI, though it's not completely functional yet. It's called PIXIL.
http://www.dslinux.org/index.php?showtopic=1876
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#104930 - mntorankusu - Wed Oct 04, 2006 11:43 am
It'll be pretty sweet if ViewML works with it.
If dual-screen support is added, the resolution will be about the same as the devices it's designed for, which is nice. Though the fact that you'd only be able to touch half of the screen might be an issue.
#104933 - MiL0 - Wed Oct 04, 2006 1:03 pm
wow - that looks really nice
#104935 - MaHe - Wed Oct 04, 2006 1:52 pm
Yup, it does. And judging from the screenshots, it will become a rather fine replacement for the dead DSOrganize. Time will tell. And amadeus is a talented coder.
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#104939 - quadomatic - Wed Oct 04, 2006 2:12 pm
| MaHe wrote: |
| amadeus is a talented coder. |
damn straight
#104940 - MiL0 - Wed Oct 04, 2006 2:20 pm
| MaHe wrote: |
| Yup, it does. And judging from the screenshots, it will become a rather fine replacement for the dead DSOrganize. Time will tell. And amadeus is a talented coder. |
I was just thinking the same thing.
Stupid question but does it multitask and how easy is it to write homebrew utilities for it? (compared to writing native DS homebrew)
#104941 - MaHe - Wed Oct 04, 2006 2:24 pm
DSLinux does multitask. And writing applications for it is really easier than using libnds (in short: it's the same as writing desktop applications, but just using a different compiler), but also a bit limited at some points (until PIXIL is available, you can only write Nano-X and terminal programs without using the bottom screen & stylus.
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#104942 - Extreme Coder - Wed Oct 04, 2006 2:37 pm
I hope that for applicatons, if he kept the GUI on the bottom screen and made the applications run on the top screen.
Keep up the good work amadeus:D
#104943 - Dan2552 - Wed Oct 04, 2006 2:57 pm
omg please let this be true.
the browser is included, right?
#104947 - OOPMan - Wed Oct 04, 2006 3:35 pm
Well, this is really great news.
Amadeus just keeps producing wonder after wonder. The guy must be on some kind of programmer drug regime or somethng :-)
The programming options sound very interesting as well :-)
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#104956 - MiL0 - Wed Oct 04, 2006 5:52 pm
| MaHe wrote: |
| DSLinux does multitask. And writing applications for it is really easier than using libnds (in short: it's the same as writing desktop applications, but just using a different compiler), but also a bit limited at some points (until PIXIL is available, you can only write Nano-X and terminal programs without using the bottom screen & stylus. |
ah okay - but still, the potential for lots of new homebrew has just got a massive shot in the arm with this thing... :D
#104963 - ghaxaq - Wed Oct 04, 2006 7:28 pm
any Supercard CF link pls??!!
#104970 - ?hr - Wed Oct 04, 2006 8:32 pm
| ghaxaq wrote: |
| any Supercard CF link pls??!! |
??? theres no rom of this yet:
| amadeus wrote: |
| today I have added the PIXIL desktop environment to the DSLINUX cvs. In the next weeks, I will try to make it run on the DS, using the lower screen |
#104974 - kevinc - Wed Oct 04, 2006 9:03 pm
| amadeus wrote: |
| today I have added the PIXIL desktop environment to the DSLINUX cvs. In the next weeks, I will try to make it run on the DS, using the lower screen |
So DSLinux will have a GUI, in the foreseeable future?
/misguiding headline
//props to the mod with a sense of humor :]
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#104978 - ghaxaq - Wed Oct 04, 2006 9:47 pm
So why does he add it to the changes since the last build ??
| Code: |
| http://kineox.free.fr/DS/ |
#104980 - MaHe - Wed Oct 04, 2006 9:52 pm
| kevinc wrote: |
| //props to the mod with a sense of humor :] |
Actually, that was me. Shouldn't use such a title, you are right.
ghaxaq: Just watch the thread. When he updates it, he'll tell.
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#104988 - dualscreenman - Wed Oct 04, 2006 10:09 pm
| ghaxaq wrote: |
So why does he add it to the changes since the last build ??
| Code: | | http://kineox.free.fr/DS/ |
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Those are general changes in CVS, which aren't necessarily changes in the ROM.
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#104989 - TJ - Wed Oct 04, 2006 10:11 pm
To be fair, there is no indication at all of how well this is going to run on the DS, or specifically how much system resources will be available after the desktop itself is up and running. It is entirely possible that running this windowed environment alone will take up the remaining free cycles on the CPU. Sure there is more RAM now with the SuperCard builds, but the CPU itself is still much slower than what they are putting in even the cheapest Palms today.
As for dual screen support, NanoX includes an on-screen KB, but now you are talking about running yet another user-land program on top of the GUI itself, rather than the user interface being built into the kernel.
The project seems to me like a slippery slope that just takes more and more resources until you have a system that can run a windowed GUI, and not much else. That doesn't seem too useful to me, personally.
It would be great to see DSLinux develop into a full product, with GUI web browsers and the like, but I just don't see it ever happening the way people are expecting it to.
#104991 - tepples - Wed Oct 04, 2006 10:26 pm
And I seem to remember Mac OS 1 running its breakthrough GUI on an 8 MHz CPU and 128 KB of RAM (that is, Sega Genesis class hardware).
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#104993 - TJ - Wed Oct 04, 2006 10:44 pm
That might be valid parallel if somebody was trying to write a completely custom OS for the DS on the bare metal, rather than trying to run an X environment ontop of a port of the 2.6 Linux kernel.
But as nobody is trying to do the former, the comparison makes no sense at all.
#105005 - Jeremysr - Thu Oct 05, 2006 1:47 am
This won't work on a GBAMP right? :(
#105014 - quadomatic - Thu Oct 05, 2006 3:52 am
| Jeremysr wrote: |
| This won't work on a GBAMP right? :( |
there's no word on whether or not this needs the ram extension yet. It may or may not work for GBAMP, time will tell
#105016 - TJ - Thu Oct 05, 2006 5:35 am
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I'm assuming this is going to require the extra ram from supercard-like devices, correct?
Correct. That's why I have done it. |
#105062 - dualscreenman - Thu Oct 05, 2006 4:43 pm
Just about to post that.. oh well. I got beat.
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#105065 - Darkflame - Thu Oct 05, 2006 5:09 pm
Its very good progress, but if it dosnt run on the GBAMP and you have to login each time, I dont see many using it.
It wont be replaceing DSOrganiser any time soon.
It does look nice mind.
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#105069 - ghaxaq - Thu Oct 05, 2006 5:49 pm
You are joking man ?!! I will use it for sure as will many Supercard owners.I won't need anything else if amadeus will get it to work besides games obviously and some other ds apps
#105071 - kevinc - Thu Oct 05, 2006 5:56 pm
| Darkflame wrote: |
Its very good progress, but if it dosnt run on the GBAMP and you have to login each time, I dont see many using it.
It wont be replaceing DSOrganiser any time soon.
It does look nice mind. |
Um, I think all new devices have incorporated RAM. People are going to start focusing only on those devices sooner or later, the same way many programs today won't work without FAT.
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#105074 - ghaxaq - Thu Oct 05, 2006 6:14 pm
Is amadeus at the beginning of his programing with Pixil?? Or has he already done some tests??
#105109 - Mr. Picklesworth - Fri Oct 06, 2006 1:02 am
Just starting.
This thread is a bit misleading and should really be edited.
Nothing has been ported yet, and that thread was not created to say "I've ported PIXIL!", but rather to say that anyone looking to help with porting PIXIL can update CVS and take a look :)
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#105117 - tepples - Fri Oct 06, 2006 4:43 am
! (which ordinarily signifies breakthrough) removed.
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#105119 - falcon!!! - Fri Oct 06, 2006 6:56 am
When this linyux with GUI will be released?
#105126 - Devil_Spawn - Fri Oct 06, 2006 7:58 am
| falcon!!! wrote: |
| When this linyux with GUI will be released? |
when, and IF amadeus is succesful in porting it
#105191 - Darkflame - Fri Oct 06, 2006 5:26 pm
| ghaxaq wrote: |
| You are joking man ?!! I will use it for sure as will many Supercard owners.I won't need anything else if amadeus will get it to work besides games obviously and some other ds apps |
I just think people will get sick of login in every time thats all.
Linux people seem to be allergic to the idea of havinga system you just turn on :p
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#105192 - Turambar - Fri Oct 06, 2006 5:30 pm
| Darkflame wrote: |
I just think people will get sick of login in every time thats all.
Linux people seem to be allergic to the idea of havinga system you just turn on :p |
Have you tryied any recent dslinux release? I just downloaded it and it logins automaticaly.