#118139 - jester - Sat Feb 10, 2007 11:46 am
Any Ds hardware hacks you would like to see e.g. camera, analog nub. gbc port something like that!
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#118160 - Tantrum - Sat Feb 10, 2007 4:07 pm
Make the other screen a touch screen too ;)
#118163 - lyptt - Sat Feb 10, 2007 4:33 pm
I've always wanted an internal microdrive coupled with 32 megs of RAM and a 2 meg firmware chip that boots into a PDA-style OS, obviously never going to happen though :P
#118207 - Mrshlee - Sun Feb 11, 2007 1:21 am
IR send/recieve..
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#118210 - felix123 - Sun Feb 11, 2007 1:48 am
Ad hoc mode. (It's strictly a software function, but still)
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#118211 - Tantrum - Sun Feb 11, 2007 1:54 am
Bluetooth
#118212 - HyperHacker - Sun Feb 11, 2007 2:00 am
Oh I could name a few.
-Top screen touchable. :-p
-GBA link port, even if not useable in GBA mode, it would still have some use.
-Built-in GPS and tilt/motion sensors. I know these have been done with external cards (though I don't think GPS was ever actually built into a card like NDSMotion was, probably because it's so expensive). It'd still be cool to have them built in though.
-Some sort of adapter that would allow reading GBC carts (using external battery if necessary, or possibly it could "splice in" to the DS's battery by connecting to the pads in the battery socket - does it provide 5 volts?) - from there, emulation would allow true GBC support. I've seen crazier (same thing done on GBA, with NES carts) so why not?
-USB host port. Yeah it'd kill the battery, but still...
-A/B/X/Y button "rotation"; some sort of chip that would remap the buttons to act as if you just rotated the entire thing 90?. Finally play GBA games the way they should be!
-Camera!
-Longer-lasting battery; ability to determine battery life in software.
One hack I've considered is a DS robot using the NDS Motion Card. Put a DS on a remote control car and have it control the motors. You could use another DS, PC, PDA etc to control it, or have it just kinda wander or travel preset paths. The motion sensor would tell it how fast it were moving, and allow it to know when it runs into something; from there, it could essentially build a map of the room, and "learn" where things are and avoid bumping into them. (It'd also be able to tell you via wifi or beeping if it fell over, one of the motors stopped working (it's running them but not moving as fast as it should be), etc.)
Maybe it could even fly a toy helicopter, if you could get one strong enough to carry the DS. :-p
Only problem is, I don't know what such a robot would do aside from make people go "oooooooh". For it to go fetch me a beer, it'd need to be able to climb stairs, which would mean either an aircraft (in which case weight becomes an issue) or legs (not coding/building that thanks), not to mention be able to open the fridge and reach the can. There's really nothing downstairs I'd want it to grab, and I rarely have a reason to be upstairs. Maybe it could race or something. Turn it into a remote lawnmower/pooper scooper? Do stunts for movies? Heck, maybe just design a car for it with a slot-1 adapter and sell it as a toy. :-p
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#118300 - Dan2552 - Sun Feb 11, 2007 11:35 pm
a third screen.
(just cant be bothered to think of anything right now)
#118302 - tepples - Sun Feb 11, 2007 11:40 pm
| Dan2552 wrote: |
| a third screen. |
Done: Nintendo BS.
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#118308 - jester - Mon Feb 12, 2007 12:31 am
i personally would pay like ?30 or more for a ds camera attachment that could handle like 1.0 megapixel! can the ds handle 1 megapixel?
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#118376 - Sweater Fish Deluxe - Mon Feb 12, 2007 10:29 pm
| Dan2552 wrote: |
| a third screen. |
A FOURTH SCREEN!
Then the DS would have as many screens as my razor has blades!
| HyperHacker wrote: |
| -A/B/X/Y button "rotation"; some sort of chip that would remap the buttons to act as if you just rotated the entire thing 90?. Finally play GBA games the way they should be! |
Have you seen Mash-Mods' DS Chip Advanced (search Google)? It lets you use the DS's Y and X buttons either as Turbo B and A or as L and R (which is great). You should contact Mash and suggest adding a mode where Y and B act as B and A, he'd probably do it. Only downside is that he can't fit the chip into a DS Lite.
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#118383 - HyperHacker - Tue Feb 13, 2007 12:01 am
Yeah, I saw that but I think people already mentioned the idea, and he said he couldn't do it for some reason. Something about having to cut traces on the board.
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#118392 - daninski - Tue Feb 13, 2007 1:04 am
maybe a second ds-1 slot... *thinks*
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#118402 - Sweater Fish Deluxe - Tue Feb 13, 2007 1:44 am
One thing I often think of is how cool it would be to have a multipoint touchscreen. Even just two points would open up so many possibilities, let alone infinite points.
Something I hope (and expect) we'll see this on the DS's successor.
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#118403 - Wuschmaster - Tue Feb 13, 2007 1:50 am
Digital Output for Video Capture (both screens).
#118405 - daninski - Tue Feb 13, 2007 1:58 am
| Sweater Fish Deluxe wrote: |
One thing I often think of is how cool it would be to have a multipoint touchscreen. Even just two points would open up so many possibilities, let alone infinite points.
Something I hope (and expect) we'll see this on the DS's successor.
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i thought that i had read that nintendo had patented that, but it seems apple have it.
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#118408 - Dood77 - Tue Feb 13, 2007 2:46 am
| Sweater Fish Deluxe wrote: |
| Dan2552 wrote: | | a third screen. |
A FOURTH SCREEN!
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A friend of mine at school did an external cantenna plug on his DS
http://tgi.net/~andrew/hack124x768/dsantplug.html
#118417 - HyperHacker - Tue Feb 13, 2007 8:20 am
Nice, I might try to do that. I have to open mine sometime to fix the stupid L button. >_>
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#118427 - kusma - Tue Feb 13, 2007 11:56 am
a combined SLOT-2 RAM expansion and FPGA board.
#118437 - Lynx - Tue Feb 13, 2007 1:30 pm
Yeah.. Video out would be nice.. might as well make it software selectable, if you want top, bottom, or both screens to be output to the TV.
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#118574 - OOPMan - Wed Feb 14, 2007 9:56 am
Hehehe, my personal desire:
The Beast:
Dimension-wise it's the same size as the entire underside of the DS, depth-wise it's probably half the depth of the DS.
What's inside?
- 32mb of RAM
- microSD card slot
- USB slot
- FPU
- An additional ARM9, maybe two :-)
- IR
- BlueTooth
- RS232 Interface
- 10/100 Ethernet port
- Internal battery for powering the above
- AC Power input
In the realm of reality? Probably not, although I imagine you could integrate at least some of those and still have space for a battery and AC input (Both of which I think would be necessary for keeping the goodies happy)
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#118643 - HyperHacker - Thu Feb 15, 2007 1:53 am
Heh, that seems a bit infeasible. However, I bet you could expand the RAM to 8MB, as debug units have this already.
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#118655 - Lynx - Thu Feb 15, 2007 5:49 am
Well, if there are going to be additional processors, why stop with ARM9s? Heck, since we are talking fantasy anyway, let's put an ARM Cortex-A8 1Ghz on it.. :)
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#118656 - chishm - Thu Feb 15, 2007 6:46 am
No, a Pentium Core Duo Extreme Edition 10GHz that only draws 1mW of power!
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#118663 - OOPMan - Thu Feb 15, 2007 9:49 am
No...wait...I know...you disassemble a 2nd DS and place it's bits in the box and then rig up some horrible nasty switching interface along the GBA port...
That way you get 2 DS'es in tandem!!!
'Course, there may be some arguments over who gets to use what screen and so forth ;-)
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#118671 - Lord Raptor - Thu Feb 15, 2007 11:34 am
I'd like an indestructible hinge :|
#118677 - Lynx - Thu Feb 15, 2007 1:30 pm
| chishm wrote: |
| No, a Pentium Core Duo Extreme Edition 10GHz that only draws 1mW of power! |
I thought of that, but wouldn't the fact that it doesn't read ARM matter? Or could you use an interpreter, or would you compile your game/app for intel, with an arm loader, or am I just talking nonsense?
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#118696 - NeX - Thu Feb 15, 2007 6:29 pm
We're all talking nonsense.
#118731 - HyperHacker - Fri Feb 16, 2007 8:05 am
At 10ghz, just run an ARM emulator. >_>
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#118733 - Firon - Fri Feb 16, 2007 8:12 am
| Lord Raptor wrote: |
| I'd like an indestructible hinge :| |
Now that would be nice.
#122279 - HyperHacker - Sun Mar 18, 2007 9:05 am
Oh, here's a hack I'd pay nicely to have done: Replace that stupid volume slider with a knob like on the original GBA.
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#122330 - dantheman - Sun Mar 18, 2007 6:44 pm
That actually isn't a bad idea. That's one of my few gripes about the DS, that silly slider, as it makes getting a very low (yet still audible) volume very difficult.
#122366 - Nintendo Maniac 64 - Sun Mar 18, 2007 10:51 pm
GB/C support
A SCRATCH-LESS SCREEN
A standard mic jack... this could be possible because you can actually use standard headphones if you connect the 2 pins to the jack on your mic with paper clips or something :P
#122405 - HyperHacker - Mon Mar 19, 2007 4:36 am
| dantheman wrote: |
| That actually isn't a bad idea. That's one of my few gripes about the DS, that silly slider, as it makes getting a very low (yet still audible) volume very difficult. |
Yes, I have to keep it very low because it still comes out frickin loud with my headphones. Adjusting it in my pocket is a giant pain. It's likely quite easy to do, but I'd have to tear apart the system to do it. :-/
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#153770 - juz098 - Sat Apr 05, 2008 10:09 pm
I would deff like to see a ds camera. I know there is one for face training in japan. It would be sick if an appliaction was made for that that would support wi-fi audio and video convos. People say that wi-fi couldnt carry that sort of signal on a ds and it would lag but hey look at dscam it supports viewing a remote webcam from a computer. Maybe it is possible!
#153775 - 11X_daemon_X11 - Sun Apr 06, 2008 2:28 am
More power... this includes more ram and more processors. As long as it can emulator the N64, I would be happy... xD
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#153995 - Tikker - Wed Apr 09, 2008 1:28 am
realistically, next increment should have more ram (8/16mb)
more cpu power would obviously be great
bluetooth to make it play nicer with the wii
other than that, the current ds lite is probably one of the best pieces of kit I own
replace the dpad with an analog pad might be alright
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#154251 - Nintendo Maniac 64 - Sun Apr 13, 2008 5:11 pm
| HyperHacker wrote: |
-A/B/X/Y button "rotation"; some sort of chip that would remap the buttons to act as if you just rotated the entire thing 90?. Finally play GBA games the way they should be! |
...how is it NOT the same way? Are you one of those people that lined up your thumb on top of both the A and B buttons at the same time on the Game Boy? I always thought it was designed for you to place your thumb in-between A and B so that it's perpendicular to them. Then you can rock your thumb back and forth.
Or if it's something like Mario Kart: Super Circuit, you could center your thumb on A and then rock it to the left to hit the B button.
#154298 - lord_hardware - Mon Apr 14, 2008 7:51 am
a faster ram expansion (32meg for preference) that uses AAA batteries as it's power-source... im sure that way we could play some shit awesome games
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#154412 - 11X_daemon_X11 - Tue Apr 15, 2008 9:12 pm
I've got a good one... flash memory on the DS itself with its own firmware (but still capable of running DS games, how ever they would do that) that you could play music on kinda like the psp... except not entirely horrible. :)
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#156486 - lord_hardware - Sat May 10, 2008 5:32 pm
OH... higher power batteries and better speakers
its sad when an ipods head phones can play music louder and with higher quality then you can
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#156913 - HyperHacker - Fri May 16, 2008 12:04 am
| Nintendo Maniac 64 wrote: |
| HyperHacker wrote: |
-A/B/X/Y button "rotation"; some sort of chip that would remap the buttons to act as if you just rotated the entire thing 90?. Finally play GBA games the way they should be! |
...how is it NOT the same way? Are you one of those people that lined up your thumb on top of both the A and B buttons at the same time on the Game Boy? I always thought it was designed for you to place your thumb in-between A and B so that it's perpendicular to them. Then you can rock your thumb back and forth.
Or if it's something like Mario Kart: Super Circuit, you could center your thumb on A and then rock it to the left to hit the B button. |
I'm one of those guys who played a lot of SNES and got used to using Y/B as the primary buttons. On GBA it was different because you didn't have the extra buttons there.
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#157041 - dantheman - Sun May 18, 2008 3:51 am
I'm the same way, tons of SNES gaming before I ever got a GBA or DS. Of course, now after playing tons of GBA and DS I'm finding that the few times I go back to my SNES I actually attempt to use the wrong buttons, hehe.
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#157098 - HyperHacker - Mon May 19, 2008 6:29 am
Even worse if you were a fan of Mario Kart, and learned to use B to accept and Y to cancel. Then try to play Tetris Attack. Ack!
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#157113 - thegamefreak0134 - Mon May 19, 2008 12:26 pm
I'd say that the next unit from nintendo could definitely do with a ram/speed increase. However, I'd also really like to see a divide operator and an FPU, so the 3D doesn't quite look like it's on a PS1. ^_^
As for extra hardware, I really don't see the point of having both screens be touch screens. I can see it for added flexibility, but really games only function properly with the bottom screen for touch and the top screen for statistics and such, or a map, etc.
I wouldn't mind a camera, but few people would ever use it. Now, what would really make me happy is an improved Wifi interface. I would like a nintendo account to be linked to my DS, and I would like official games (liek mariokart, for example) to let me post scores and replays, and then let my friends download them, etc. This way, I could let my friends see my replays without having to be in the same room.
Improved speed on Wifi isn't really going to happen in any decent way-- you've seen how badly SSBB can lag on the Wii, and it's got decent Wifi as it is. The internet itself is really too slow to do it without any issues.
Bluetooth would be really neat, assuming that the next generation of Nintendo console is going to use bluetooth controllers again. (I hope so, the wiimote works really well.)
One thing I'm sure I DON'T want is motion controls built in. In select instances, motion controls are neat with a screen attached to them. In most cases, I think motion controls would get in the way of playing. Think about trying to drive a car with the screen in your hands-- you'd have to tilt your head to see where you were going. Not a good idea.
I'm also sure I don't want the next DS to become a cell phone, or let me download music, etc. Those things are reserved for iphones, I don't want to pay for one on my DS. (As for homebrew MP3 players, we need more, they are wonderful things. ^_^ My DS outperforms my dad's ipod, it's so neat!)
I definitely want to see the return of the touch screen in general, I think it was an excellent idea. I wouldn't mind making it multi-touch, although that seems a bit silly for gaming, it's more useful for applications and such. I DEFINITELY love the stereo speakers, they are such high quality that it makes me all happy inside.
One thing that I wouldn't mind at all is a joystick of some kind. Better quality than that of the PSP obviously, but it would allow a greater degree of control. I think that the current folding design also makes a joystick easier to house in such a way that it cannot be damaged easily, so we may see one. I'm tired of d+pads, really I am. No matter how easy it made snaking in MarioKart, no matter how much fun I have winning on Wifi because of it, I think D+pads are out of style. But that's just me.
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#157169 - tepples - Mon May 19, 2008 11:49 pm
| thegamefreak0134 wrote: |
| I'd say that the next unit from nintendo could definitely do with a ram/speed increase. However, I'd also really like to see a divide operator and an FPU, so the 3D doesn't quite look like it's on a PS1. ^_^ |
To me, the PS1 look comes from the lack of texture filtering more than from some sort of geometry bottleneck that you seem to imply. The DS games I've played sure have a better frame rate than PS1 games (except for Animal Crossing, which for some reason runs much slower than the GCN version).
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| One thing I'm sure I DON'T want is motion controls built in. In select instances, motion controls are neat with a screen attached to them. |
Like on some of the games for the jailbroken iPhone.
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| I'm also sure I don't want the next DS to become a cell phone, or let me download music, etc. Those things are reserved for iphones, I don't want to pay for one on my DS. |
I agree about mobile phones to an extent, but there's nothing wrong with downloading music if a system can download other user-generated content.
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| I definitely want to see the return of the touch screen in general, I think it was an excellent idea. I wouldn't mind making it multi-touch, although that seems a bit silly for gaming, it's more useful for applications and such. I DEFINITELY love the stereo speakers, they are such high quality that it makes me all happy inside. |
Even the DS's 10-bit DAC? Or do you just not play any music that has quiet parts?
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| One thing that I wouldn't mind at all is a joystick of some kind. Better quality than that of the PSP obviously, but it would allow a greater degree of control. I think that the current folding design also makes a joystick easier to house in such a way that it cannot be damaged easily |
You might want to look at Pandora this northern summer, unless you absolutely have to have commercial games on the same device.
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#157199 - HyperHacker - Tue May 20, 2008 8:47 am
While cameras and music downloads and so on don't need to be built in, they'd be great as add-ons.
And yeah, let's see a better DAC plz.
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