#124293 - Lick - Wed Apr 04, 2007 10:25 pm
From arstechnica.com
Two minutes? Well.. Two minutes?! Well.. TWO MINUTES?!!
No comment.
edit Now to make this topic a bit more interesting: the DS only supports WEP and not the safer WPA. This means, in order to go online with the DS, you have to put your networks security at risk. (Or you can change your WEP key every 2 minutes..)
How silly is that?
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#124299 - Optihut - Wed Apr 04, 2007 10:55 pm
In principle I would agree, however, I'd argue that someone who is interested to compromise YOUR specific network is going to find a way anyway. So for all normal means and purposes, meaning neighbours wanting to use your wireless without your permission, WEP and a list of allowed MAC addresses would still be good enough (for me). For those who think that it's not good enough - yeah, it bites that you can't use the DS online then.
#124302 - masscat - Wed Apr 04, 2007 11:14 pm
If people are worried about security then buy a dedicated wireless router for the DS and then block all access from the this router to your secure network.
People will still be any to borrow your Internet connection but they will not be able to browser your network shares and similar. And when you are not using your DS you can even turn the router off. If the connection appears unreliable then anyone borrowing it will move on.
You can do the above configuration using the Nintendo USB Wifi stick or similar and Windows.
#124313 - Lynx - Thu Apr 05, 2007 2:02 am
Quickly cracking WEP is not new.. There is a flaw in the design that allows it.
WEP is like a lock on a locker.. It keeps the honest people honest. Someone driving along won't just 'hop' onto your network or peak into your locker. But, if someone comes along with the intentions of cracking your WiFi, WEP isn't going to stop them.. and if they have bolt cutters with them, a lock isn't either.
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#124326 - HyperHacker - Thu Apr 05, 2007 2:46 am
Though, it's easy to tell when someone has broken in via bolt cutters. :p
It bugs me that the DS doesn't support WPA. MAC filtering isn't much good as MAC addresses can be changed. :-/
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#124329 - unrequited - Thu Apr 05, 2007 3:00 am
*cough*
pluh-eeze?
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#124510 - Assasinchen - Fri Apr 06, 2007 1:39 pm
Woohoo, the team is from DARMSTADT! (Germany)!!!
Guess who is from Darmstadt, too....
#124517 - simonjhall - Fri Apr 06, 2007 2:30 pm
#124632 - tuLL - Sat Apr 07, 2007 1:07 pm
Hello there
I was wondering if someone could enlighten me. I have a wireless network at home and the only two things I have done (security wise) were to filter mac adresses and not broadcasting the SSID. Is this insecure in anyway?
Thank you
PS: Most homebrew aplications don't work unless I make the router broadcast the SSID but Nintendo games work anyway.
#124637 - Assasinchen - Sat Apr 07, 2007 2:41 pm
No it is not...even I could "hack" your WLAN and I don't know very much about it...
Every idiot can find your WLAN and change his MAC adress into one of yours (easy to find out).
Get a WEP or better WPA key (if your router / computer supports it).
#124642 - chishm - Sat Apr 07, 2007 3:38 pm
| Assasinchen wrote: |
No it is not...even I could "hack" your WLAN and I don't know very much about it...
Every idiot can find your WLAN and change his MAC adress into one of yours (easy to find out).
Get a WEP or better WPA key (if your router / computer supports it). |
DS doesn't support WPA, but WEP is a good idea. It keeps most people (neighbours for example) out of your network.
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#124646 - Lynx - Sat Apr 07, 2007 4:19 pm
Anything short of WPA or EAP security is unsecure. I believe using MAC and not broadcasing your SSID is basically the same as using WEP, as neither are secure.
If someone is going to go through the work of capturing your packets, changing their MAC and getting into your network that way, they will have the WEP cracker as well.
So, do you need to add WEP? Not really. What you are doing has the same effect as WEP.. it's keeps the honest people honest.
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#124664 - M3d10n - Sat Apr 07, 2007 5:34 pm
If you're that concerned about it, just buy a USB dongle and be done with it. WPA isn't failsafe either.
#124684 - red_tekno - Sat Apr 07, 2007 7:24 pm
| chishm wrote: |
| Assasinchen wrote: | No it is not...even I could "hack" your WLAN and I don't know very much about it...
Every idiot can find your WLAN and change his MAC adress into one of yours (easy to find out).
Get a WEP or better WPA key (if your router / computer supports it). |
DS doesn't support WPA, but WEP is a good idea. It keeps most people (neighbours for example) out of your network. |
There's a mod (Im not sure if it was firmware or otherwise) that allows you to use WPA, but makes your DS incompatible with WEP. (It's for the EZ4, IIRC)
#124692 - Dood77 - Sat Apr 07, 2007 8:46 pm
| M3d10n wrote: |
| If you're that concerned about it, just buy a USB dongle and be done with it. WPA isn't failsafe either. |
IIRC WPA takes weeks and months to crack
#124707 - swimgod - Sat Apr 07, 2007 10:09 pm
Having cracked WEP Protected networks and focusing in on this for about 3 days i can say it all depends on what your password is and how complex it is(does it use all letters or does it use symbols too?). also it depends highly on how much traffic is being generated (are you using it a lot?) in any case wifi is never going to be completly secure so don't be stupid and share important files over your network when wifi is enabled.
WEP is weak...
WPA is stronger...
Brute force is strongest...
in other words...
it can always be cracked if someone really wanted to...
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#124735 - HyperHacker - Sun Apr 08, 2007 2:17 am
| red_tekno wrote: |
| There's a mod (Im not sure if it was firmware or otherwise) that allows you to use WPA, but makes your DS incompatible with WEP. (It's for the EZ4, IIRC) |
I've heard this before, but not any information on it. Do you have a link? How does it work? I'm curious if the DS is even capable of WPA, it'd be nice to have in homebrew.
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#124741 - red_tekno - Sun Apr 08, 2007 4:09 am
| HyperHacker wrote: |
| red_tekno wrote: | | There's a mod (Im not sure if it was firmware or otherwise) that allows you to use WPA, but makes your DS incompatible with WEP. (It's for the EZ4, IIRC) |
I've heard this before, but not any information on it. Do you have a link? How does it work? I'm curious if the DS is even capable of WPA, it'd be nice to have in homebrew. |
http://geekboy.ca/wifi/?cat=2
A little google goes a long way.
It's for the EZ1/2, as those are the ones that use the EZLoader- but im sure other people will get it to work somehow.
#124820 - HyperHacker - Sun Apr 08, 2007 10:51 pm
OK, but how does it work? It sounds like a firmware hack for the EZ1/2 cards, do these have some sort of wifi code built in? How does hacking that enable other apps to use WPA? Or is it a hack of the DS firmware, and if so, why are only these cards supported?
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#124826 - Lynx - Sun Apr 08, 2007 11:23 pm
| Quote: |
in other words...
it can always be cracked if someone really wanted to... |
Uhh.. Did you look up EAP or LEAP?
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#124838 - wintermute - Mon Apr 09, 2007 1:33 am
| red_tekno wrote: |
| HyperHacker wrote: | | red_tekno wrote: | | There's a mod (Im not sure if it was firmware or otherwise) that allows you to use WPA, but makes your DS incompatible with WEP. (It's for the EZ4, IIRC) |
I've heard this before, but not any information on it. Do you have a link? How does it work? I'm curious if the DS is even capable of WPA, it'd be nice to have in homebrew. |
http://geekboy.ca/wifi/?cat=2
A little google goes a long way.
It's for the EZ1/2, as those are the ones that use the EZLoader- but im sure other people will get it to work somehow. |
Di you even bother to look at this?
It's a hoax.
There's a 200k binary of which approximately 100 bytes are not zero.
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