#133727 - Iteo - Sun Jul 08, 2007 3:47 am
What are the risks and pluss involved that i need to know about before i decide to flash my ds. Btw i have the original phat firmware, a max media launcher and a GBAMP.
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#133738 - Link_of_Hyrule - Sun Jul 08, 2007 7:48 am
I have never flashed a ds only used passcards and i just the other day flashed 2 phat ds one version 4 one version 5 both were realy easy to flash way easier then i though just hold the toothpick covered in tinfoil in the hole and wait for the beeping to stop and then its done thats all there is to it
#133744 - Creebo - Sun Jul 08, 2007 8:32 am
The only risk of your DS for flashing FlashMe would be bricking your DS by losing the power during the flash. I believe every phat firmware is supported now so there shouldnt be a compatibility problem. Do yourself a favor, don't ask for anymore examples of risks, just flash it asap. You will feel so much better.
#133805 - Iteo - Sun Jul 08, 2007 10:06 pm
And that isnt really a risk is it, because you can plug your ds in to the AC.
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#133807 - tepples - Sun Jul 08, 2007 10:10 pm
| Iteo wrote: |
| And that isnt really a risk is it, because you can plug your ds in to the AC. |
Some users on this and other forums have reported the DS shutting off even while it is plugged into the wall if the wrong pair of contacts is bridged.
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#133810 - Iteo - Sun Jul 08, 2007 10:18 pm
So user mistake is the cause of the majority of issues. In other words, if i am careful there is nothing to worry about
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#133812 - Dood77 - Sun Jul 08, 2007 10:34 pm
Yes, my DS phat (as well as a friends) was fine with a piece of aluminum foil jammed in the hole, the only occurrences of needing to use a special tool, or the DS shutting off, etc. that I've heard of have been DS lites.
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#133813 - chuckstudios - Sun Jul 08, 2007 10:37 pm
I killed a DS Lite once. But my Phat was reflashed multiple times as well as multiple Lite flashes with success.
(I've had like 5 DSes, and I flashed my friend's once)
#133818 - jetboy - Sun Jul 08, 2007 11:05 pm
Excuse me for a silly question. What is the purpose of flashing? It runs homebrew straight from the card. There is even application that can connect to PC via WiFi and run apps from PC-HD so you dont need to shuffle your card back and forth when developing. I must be missing something, right?
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#133819 - Lick - Sun Jul 08, 2007 11:11 pm
FlashMe provides a failsafe routine so that even if the unprotected region of the firmware is damaged (by malware), the protected region can still function and boot up your Slot-2 homebrew device for recovery.
If malware hits your nonFlashMe firmware, then you're screwed.
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#133840 - dantheman - Mon Jul 09, 2007 5:38 am
That and it's a great convenience for slot-2 users who do not wish to carry around a passthrough device with them wherever they go. With my DS flashed, I can keep the slot-1 Opera DS cartridge in my DS so I only have to make one pak-swap when I wish to browse the web with it.
I also like that the health and safety warning screen is gone, as that drives me crazy for some reason.
#133841 - wintermute - Mon Jul 09, 2007 5:51 am
| tepples wrote: |
| Iteo wrote: | | And that isnt really a risk is it, because you can plug your ds in to the AC. |
Some users on this and other forums have reported the DS shutting off even while it is plugged into the wall if the wrong pair of contacts is bridged. |
As far as I know this has only ever been an issue with the DS Lite - I haven't heard of this ever happening with a Phat.
| dantheman wrote: |
I also like that the health and safety warning screen is gone, as that drives me crazy for some reason.
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That drives me nuts as well but then I'm an impatient sod.
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#133848 - simonjhall - Mon Jul 09, 2007 7:49 am
I always wonder why I needed it, but when you don't have it you really miss it! I had to develop some wifi code on a second DS and this required me to use a slot-1 card (which I didn't want to do at the time) plus stabbing through that health screen is annoying.
So, by votes go for the health screen (essential if you're gonna do some Real Programming on the DS) and the slot-1/slot-2 bootage.
And I've flashed two DS' now, and have had no problem. First time I was pretty nervous but the second was so casual that it was done in a diner with the waiter guy wondering what we were doing! </dodgy>
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#133855 - jetboy - Mon Jul 09, 2007 9:07 am
Thanks! Now it makes sense.
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#133993 - Dood77 - Tue Jul 10, 2007 1:02 am
| simonjhall wrote: |
| And I've flashed two DS' now, and have had no problem. First time I was pretty nervous but the second was so casual that it was done in a diner with the waiter guy wondering what we were doing! </dodgy> |
Lol, was it plugged in?
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#133998 - HyperHacker - Tue Jul 10, 2007 1:15 am
Flashing my Phat was a cinch, but my Lite just won't do it. I short SL1 but nothing happens. O_o | wintermute wrote: |
| tepples wrote: | | Iteo wrote: | | And that isnt really a risk is it, because you can plug your ds in to the AC. |
Some users on this and other forums have reported the DS shutting off even while it is plugged into the wall if the wrong pair of contacts is bridged. |
As far as I know this has only ever been an issue with the DS Lite - I haven't heard of this ever happening with a Phat. |
I have heard, though, that it will turn off if the battery falls out even when it's plugged in.
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#134030 - Lynx - Tue Jul 10, 2007 5:18 am
| jetboy wrote: |
| Excuse me for a silly question. What is the purpose of flashing? It runs homebrew straight from the card. ... |
Wow.. people still don't know the risks of running unlicensed code without proper protection... I guess we need to explain it more often.
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#134042 - simonjhall - Tue Jul 10, 2007 7:49 am
| Dood77 wrote: |
| simonjhall wrote: | | And I've flashed two DS' now, and have had no problem. First time I was pretty nervous but the second was so casual that it was done in a diner with the waiter guy wondering what we were doing! </dodgy> |
Lol, was it plugged in? |
Nope, it was totally NUDE.
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#134096 - Xtreme984 - Tue Jul 10, 2007 3:51 pm
while we're on the subject of flashing Phat DS's, can I run homebrew from a slot-1 device with the failsafe or is it slot-2 exclusively?
#134104 - mastertop101 - Tue Jul 10, 2007 4:43 pm
| Lynx wrote: |
| jetboy wrote: | | Excuse me for a silly question. What is the purpose of flashing? It runs homebrew straight from the card. ... |
Wow.. people still don't know the risks of running unlicensed code without proper protection... I guess we need to explain it more often. |
It's actually so near ZERO, I don't really care.
#134107 - Lynx - Tue Jul 10, 2007 6:00 pm
| Xtreme984 wrote: |
| while we're on the subject of flashing Phat DS's, can I run homebrew from a slot-1 device with the failsafe or is it slot-2 exclusively? |
As of v8, recovery works with both slot-1 and slot-2.. But your device experience may very, so do a little research on it specifically.
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| t's actually so near ZERO, I don't really care. |
That is a good thing.. Hopefully it stays that way. And, I hope you never have a reason to care.
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#134116 - wintermute - Tue Jul 10, 2007 7:21 pm
Is it actually possible to brick a DS without shorting SL1 since Nintendo increased the protected area?
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#134137 - Lynx - Tue Jul 10, 2007 10:53 pm
But, how do you know your DS is one with the extra protection?
Unless you know the throughput of the location you purchase from and the local distributor, there is no way to know if you are buying old stock.
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#134159 - chishm - Wed Jul 11, 2007 2:23 am
I thought all DS Lites have the firmware code protected completely. If not, you can probably tell based on MAC address.
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