#155223 - SG1anubis007 - Sat Apr 26, 2008 8:23 pm
Alright, so here's the deal. I just completed the CAD design for a DS Lite dock station and even have a complete prototype that I made on my schools 3D printer. I would like to find out what the market for this product is, and how many people will buy it. The dock can be used for charging your DS while folded and is also great for holding your DS while warching movies with moonshell. The following are specificatoins but I will not yet release a photo.
22 Ds cartridge slots
3 GBA cartridge slots
4 stylus holders
the dock portion of the unit
small tray for cleaning cloth, etc.
slot for integrating the charging cord with the unit
please take the poll and leave comments.
THANKS!
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#155224 - silent_code - Sat Apr 26, 2008 8:52 pm
it sure sounds interesting! but i doubt i would use it, as i rarely use the nds besides for testing my code. :^C
EDIT: i guess a rough sketch would help understanding. ;^)
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#155243 - 11X_daemon_X11 - Sun Apr 27, 2008 3:46 am
what would be the real point of it besides charging your DS? seems like a large waste of money to me, but I could easily be mistaken.
by 22 DS card slots you mean just to hold the cards, right? why not just go buy a case? its really just an expensive and almost purposeless object, unless it came more as a homebrew tool, with a built in ram expansion pak (perhaps 32mb rab expansion pak?)
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#155259 - tepples - Sun Apr 27, 2008 3:14 pm
| 11X_daemon_X11 wrote: |
| what would be the real point of it besides charging your DS? |
Possibly a built-in 802.11b WEP access point if the rest of your network is 802.11g and draft-n with WPA.
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#155260 - Rajveer - Sun Apr 27, 2008 3:22 pm
| tepples wrote: |
| Possibly a built-in 802.11b WEP access point if the rest of your network is 802.11g and draft-n WPA. |
Now that would make it more expensive but MUCH more interesting!
Personally I'm the kind of person who likes as little clutter/stuff in my room, so I'd prefer to just keep a charging cable and keeping my game cartridges in my portable carry case. No doubt though there will be people interested in this sort of product, but what can you offer in terms of warranty that larger companies can with their own charging docks?
I don't mean to sound negative, just putting some of my thoughts out! :)
#155262 - simonjhall - Sun Apr 27, 2008 3:33 pm
Not for me...I'm a phat guy! Not everyone has a lite.
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#155264 - silent_code - Sun Apr 27, 2008 3:45 pm
@ simon: <lol> now that you mentioned it - i'm rather slim, but i have a phat one! ... i'm talking about the nds i use (it's even a [long-term] borrowed one)... ;^p
EDIT: @ simon: "mission accomplished, with extreme prejudice." ;^p
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#155266 - simonjhall - Sun Apr 27, 2008 3:52 pm
#155275 - SG1anubis007 - Sun Apr 27, 2008 6:41 pm
First of all, sorry for the typos, I am writing this from my ds organize browser. Maybe when I get home I will upload a photo. Now to clarify things, this is not a super computer extension for the Ds, IT IS A SIMPLE DESKTOP ORGANIZER FOR STORING DS GAMES AND ACCESSORIES! I made it on a CAD program and thought it would be cool for me to have. Now I am trying to decide if this is a worthy product to be developed. I know it is hard to visualize without a picture so maybe I will upload one.
I am starting to think that maybe this product is best for younger children that make up the majority og DS owners. Not us homebrewers. I will say again this is only a simple desktop organizer that happens to look really cool and work well.
#155276 - tepples - Sun Apr 27, 2008 6:46 pm
In other words, it's a case. I guess that addresses 11X_daemon_X11's question.
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#155279 - Tikker - Sun Apr 27, 2008 6:57 pm
| SG1anubis007 wrote: |
| I will say again this is only a simple desktop organizer that happens to look really cool and work well. |
what can it do that an empty spot on a desk/shelf doesn't already do?
there's a pretty good chance that if you're able to be watching videos on it you have a flashcart
I think it's probably fair to say that if people have a flashcart, the vast majority of them won't have a bunch of commercial DS carts (so the ability of your organizer to hold 22 is kinda meaningless)
unless your organizer can function as a TV out dock, I have a hard time seeing anyone setting their DS up on it, and then watching a show on it from any distance, the screens are just too tiny
I have an idea of what you're thinking of, but I just can't imagine that anyone would actually pay money for it
#155282 - bean_xp - Sun Apr 27, 2008 7:51 pm
| Tikker wrote: |
| watching a show on it from any distance, the screens are just too tiny |
I don't think it's about distance, it's about not having to hold the thing to watch it well. I'd like to see the design, but I probably wont buy it because I'm too cheap for such things. :)
#155284 - Dwedit - Sun Apr 27, 2008 8:09 pm
So this is like a charge cradle, but with drawers below for storing games? Cool.
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#155286 - thedicemaster - Sun Apr 27, 2008 8:27 pm
i think you'd really get better responses if you'd show some form of an example.
a big part for a decision wether or not to buy a "dock" is it's size, how much "quality" it shows, and if it looks good with a DS.
#155290 - Sweater Fish Deluxe - Sun Apr 27, 2008 9:32 pm
If this integrated an IDE hard drive slot with enough space internally for a 1.8 or 2.5" HD, then I'd certainly be ineterested.
I've thought about such a thing a number of times. The internals of a Max Media Dock should be easy to turn into an IDE adapter only requiring external power (which would also be used for recharging the DS) and then you'd have...well, I don't know, but it'd be something.
Ultimately, it's still not really useful for much of anything that couldn't be done just as well or better and probably more cheaply with other hardware, but it'd still be pretty cool, I think.
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#155304 - SG1anubis007 - Sun Apr 27, 2008 11:50 pm
Here are some pictures. Again, It is only an organizer. If you have no interest for it thats your opinion and thats okay, I'm not expecting everyone in the world to want one. Some people might actually have an interest for one. It is only an accessory.
edit: sorry pics gone. I guess enough people have seen them.
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#155307 - 11X_daemon_X11 - Mon Apr 28, 2008 1:08 am
What'd you use to design it? Its not to bad, design wise, but how the holder is for the actual ds, it seems like it would interfere with the DS touch screen.
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#155311 - SG1anubis007 - Mon Apr 28, 2008 2:25 am
your correct, when the ds is open the dock does interfere with the touch screen. I used autodesk inventor.
#155318 - Tikker - Mon Apr 28, 2008 4:20 am
what would be kinda slick, would be if you were to integrate speakers into it
I dunno
Maybe because it's I'm probably somewhat older than a big chunk of DS owners I just can't imagine sitting at home and watching video on my DS
if I'm out and about, I'll happily watch on the DS, but then, I'm not going to haul a dock around
#155332 - silent_code - Mon Apr 28, 2008 12:35 pm
<joking>
finally, the throne Nintendo's best selling Money Printer (nmp in short) handheld gaming console deserves!
</joking>
i can imagine, that the somehwat younger nds owners would be more attracted that the average 20++ers. nice work, anyway!
EDIT: @ SG1anubis007: sorry, you're right. i forgot to quote that (i wanted to.) :^)
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#155376 - SG1anubis007 - Mon Apr 28, 2008 10:25 pm
| silent_code wrote: |
| i can imagine, that the somehwat younger nds owners would be more attracted that the average 20++ers. nice work, anyway! |
Thats what I had said earlier.
#155379 - Lynx - Mon Apr 28, 2008 10:57 pm
I love the text right over the image as to say "Don't steal my design please" when it would only take a few minutes to mock up a copy of it. I could probably mass produce those in my garage (don't worry, I'm not going to) without much trouble.
Also, you could probably improve the number of games it could hold by removing the individual slots and create a "bank" that holds 5 cards before putting a divider in it. If you didn't put any dividers, it might allow users to flip through the games.
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#155426 - silent_code - Tue Apr 29, 2008 2:03 pm
@ Lynx: how would you do that? do you have one of those "3d printers"? could you write anything about the cost of such (maybe a specific) device? i'm really interested! :^D
#155456 - 11X_daemon_X11 - Tue Apr 29, 2008 8:00 pm
You might want to change the dock a little bit. actually later tonight I might be able to get a bit of a design that would be slightly less interfering with the DS itself for you.
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#155473 - Lynx - Tue Apr 29, 2008 10:22 pm
silent_code: No, I don't have a 3D printer. I have a CarveWright and vacuum form machine. Unfortunately, I don't have enough time for the dozen projects I already have going on to take on anything else. But it appears that design could be molded in two pieces, the base and the holder.
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#155474 - silent_code - Tue Apr 29, 2008 10:55 pm
thanks for the info, Lynx! :^)
#155480 - lord_hardware - Wed Apr 30, 2008 12:30 am
this seems like the kind of gift a devorced dad would buy an 8 year old son after 2 months of silence... its not practicle really.
I dont think many people look at the ds and think "DAMN! if only you were folded and being charged on a unit that could hold all my commercial DS carts!"
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#155504 - HyperHacker - Wed Apr 30, 2008 7:26 am
I don't see much point to a simple stick-it-in-and-charge dock; leaving it on the desk works fine, and the folding shape makes it great for videos just sitting on a desk. However as people have mentioned, if said dock plugged into the GBA slot and provided expansions (hard drive, RAM, Ethernet, USB), or had a set of speakers or could relay the wifi connection through a WPA-enabled router, it could be very interesting.
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