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DS Misc > Can't trust homebrew developers?!?

#158540 - Lynx - Fri Jun 13, 2008 3:30 am

Yup, I'm a little behind the news lately.. Datel released a recall notice for the Games N Music because someone thought it would be funny to include inappropriate material.

If it wasn't hard enough for homebrew to get a positive reputation, make a large distributor of the only real "Homebrew Only" hardware spend a crap load of money to recall a product because of a single game they included with the hardware. It's probably safe to say they will never support homebrew like they did with the competition for the Games N Music.

I read this as a warning to all corporate hardware manufacturers to not trust any homebrew developers and don't waste your time or money on promoting homebrew or try to promote them in anyway.

Very disappointing. Yet another negative blow to the entire homebrew community. And this one hit a couple of large retailers as well.
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#158542 - DiscoStew - Fri Jun 13, 2008 4:29 am

Lynx wrote:
make a large distributor of the only real "Homebrew Only" hardware spend a crap load of money to recall a product because of a single game they included with the hardware.


Wouldn't that be Datel's fault for not examining what they were including?
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#158549 - sonny_jim - Fri Jun 13, 2008 8:22 am

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If it wasn't hard enough for homebrew to get a positive reputation

Eh? Does homebrew have a bad reputation? I suppose it might do in Nintendo's eyes but most people I see (admittedly on homebrew forums) are overwhelmingly posistive.

What was the inappropriate material anyway? Do you not remember the quiz game that had "Spastic" as one of the derogatory measure of intelligence? I'm going to side with DiscoStew on this one and blame Datel for not checking things properly. But then again, if an artist released a song that had 'hidden' messages, is the record company or the artist at fault?

#158550 - Sektor - Fri Jun 13, 2008 8:51 am

Old post I wrote on the recall (MAY CONTAIN BOOBS!). Just a little behind, that was 16 months ago. I really don't think Kukulcan intended to cause problems for Datel. Datel didn't make it clear that they only wanted entries suitable for childen but the author was supposed to own all copyrights on their entry and most entries included borrowed assets.
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#158561 - Lynx - Fri Jun 13, 2008 2:24 pm

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Datel didn't make it clear that they only wanted entries suitable for childen


What commercial company is going to be "OK" with adult content in ANY of it's distributed software? Why would they want that liability? And make it hidden.. no less? Please.. I could see it being Datels fault if you started the game and a naked person popped up every time.. shame on them for not even playing the game.. but something that is random, and might not even be seen 90% of the time? And it's not like it isn't suitable for children, there are adults that also find that type of content offensive.

What is Datels fault (I guess), is trusting homebrew developers in the first place. They should have required the source, reviewed it, and compiled the entries distributed manually knowing that the source content was in fact the distributed content.

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Eh? Does homebrew have a bad reputation?


For you and I, no. I believe it does from a commercial standpoint. And when things like this happen, it makes it even worse. What commercial company is going to want to take the risk that Datel did, and get burned just like they did?

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Wouldn't that be Datel's fault for not examining what they were including?


Yes it does, but the fault is of trusting homebrew developers, not for missing hidden screens within a contest entry that they may have never seen.

Maybe I'm wrong, I saw it as a huge opportunity to "showcase" what homebrew developers could do and bring that to the masses. The product was sold world wide in mainstream retailers, no less. Not just on the internet were you have to be looking for it. That takes homebrew to a place I don't think it gets to very often (and now I see why).
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#158564 - silent_code - Fri Jun 13, 2008 2:36 pm

Don't trush anyone, ever. (Do you spot the typo?) ;^)
This is much like the Chicken/Egg question... I find it great, that they are selling devices capable of enabling HB software for everyone, thouhg. :^)
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#158566 - kusma - Fri Jun 13, 2008 2:45 pm

They get what they pay for. I don't see the problem - it's damn cheap content.

#158567 - Sektor - Fri Jun 13, 2008 2:55 pm

They didn't really give much time to create original entries and they encouraged people to enter things they had previously created, so people did exactly that.

Datel products are not sold in stores worldwide and nudity isn't such a big deal in some countries. Kukulcan's native language isn't english and he may not have known exactly what was going to happen with his game.

Doublons is still listed on Datel's site and that picture in their screenshot is an angel in a g-string. The pictures weren't hidden to stop Datel from finding them, the whole point of the game was to reveal pictures.
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