#161055 - blue_fire - Sun Jul 27, 2008 3:59 am
that i can get using my R4? also is there any that will work with the nintendo wifi usb thingy without doing a bunch of stuff? but mainly whats the best one...
edit: also is there a way to use the official nintendo browser with a R4 on an original DS without the gba storage thng?
#161062 - silent_code - Sun Jul 27, 2008 11:25 am
Don't ask anything piracy related. (See forum and piracy / warez rules.)
If you want to use the official browser, go buy it. AfaIk, you must use the RAM extension pak in order to browse the web.
I can not recommend any homebrew browser, though.
Have a nice day.
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#161077 - tepples - Sun Jul 27, 2008 11:04 pm
My cousin would recommend DSOrganize 3.1129 (not 3.2) for web browsing, and I'd have to agree.
But if one does decide to go with the official Nintendo DS Browser Game Card, what's the best way to carry both the EZFlash V 3-in-1 (for GBA homebrew) and the official Nintendo DS Memory Expansion Pak (for Nintendo DS Browser)?
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#161114 - whatevas - Mon Jul 28, 2008 4:01 pm
How does the official Opera browser stack up to DSO 3.11's browser in terms of speed and image handling?
#161147 - blue_fire - Tue Jul 29, 2008 10:18 am
| tepples wrote: |
My cousin would recommend DSOrganize 3.1129 (not 3.2) for web browsing, and I'd have to agree.
But if one does decide to go with the official Nintendo DS Browser Game Card, what's the best way to carry both the EZFlash V 3-in-1 (for GBA homebrew) and the official Nintendo DS Memory Expansion Pak (for Nintendo DS Browser)? |
ya but is there 1 that works with the nintendo wifi usb thing? thats homebrew
#161153 - simonjhall - Tue Jul 29, 2008 1:21 pm
| tepples wrote: |
| But if one does decide to go with the official Nintendo DS Browser Game Card, what's the best way to carry both the EZFlash V 3-in-1 (for GBA homebrew) and the official Nintendo DS Memory Expansion Pak (for Nintendo DS Browser)? |
In your pocket / bag / wallet / anything? If you can lug a DS, you can carry something extra that weighs like five grams...
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#161154 - chuckstudios - Tue Jul 29, 2008 2:53 pm
| blue_fire wrote: |
| tepples wrote: | My cousin would recommend DSOrganize 3.1129 (not 3.2) for web browsing, and I'd have to agree.
But if one does decide to go with the official Nintendo DS Browser Game Card, what's the best way to carry both the EZFlash V 3-in-1 (for GBA homebrew) and the official Nintendo DS Memory Expansion Pak (for Nintendo DS Browser)? |
ya but is there 1 that works with the nintendo wifi usb thing? thats homebrew |
No. In order to use the Nintendo Wi-Fi USB Connector with homebrew, you must follow this guide.
#161243 - blue_fire - Thu Jul 31, 2008 7:36 am
| chuckstudios wrote: |
| blue_fire wrote: | | tepples wrote: | My cousin would recommend DSOrganize 3.1129 (not 3.2) for web browsing, and I'd have to agree.
But if one does decide to go with the official Nintendo DS Browser Game Card, what's the best way to carry both the EZFlash V 3-in-1 (for GBA homebrew) and the official Nintendo DS Memory Expansion Pak (for Nintendo DS Browser)? |
ya but is there 1 that works with the nintendo wifi usb thing? thats homebrew |
No. In order to use the Nintendo Wi-Fi USB Connector with homebrew, you must follow this guide. |
ya ill probaly do that
does any1 know does the dsorganizer or w/e have flash player 9? or are u able to download it so it works while browsing?
#161249 - BenRK - Thu Jul 31, 2008 8:44 am
No web browser for the DS supports Flash, except the one that uses your computer as a server to render the pages for the DS, but that's not the best solution.
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#161269 - sonny_jim - Thu Jul 31, 2008 2:54 pm
There is a standalone flash player I've seen mentioned but AFAIK it's very alpha.
p.s Shameless plug, DSLinux has web browsers also but there are text based and it isn't the easiest thing to setup for a beginner.
#161270 - elwing - Thu Jul 31, 2008 3:07 pm
| BenRK wrote: |
| No web browser for the DS supports Flash, except the one that uses your computer as a server to render the pages for the DS, but that's not the best solution. |
it IS actualy the best solution as it is the only one able to really render what you will normally have with a browser, text navigation was ok a few years ago, now every simple site is already full of java and flash, it's hard to do anything with a simple browser...
now it really suck to need a full PC with a server to simply browse internet... lol, firefoxDS? no one?
#161271 - sonny_jim - Thu Jul 31, 2008 3:15 pm
FirefoxDS? For a start, it's waaaaaaaaaay too bloated for something like a DS. If a commercial company like Opera can't get Flash going on the DS, even WITH an expansion pak, do you really think that a homebrewer is going to be able to accomplish this?
The same could have been said with Quake until simonjhall's port turned up but I'm not holding my breath for a Firefox port.
#161272 - whatevas - Thu Jul 31, 2008 3:47 pm
| sonny_jim wrote: |
FirefoxDS? For a start, it's waaaaaaaaaay too bloated for something like a DS. If a commercial company like Opera can't get Flash going on the DS, even WITH an expansion pak, do you really think that a homebrewer is going to be able to accomplish this?
The same could have been said with Quake until simonjhall's port turned up but I'm not holding my breath for a Firefox port. |
Yes because most homebrews take less memory? Opera is still, after all, programmed by people.
Now, I'm not saying I have the know-how to do it, but I'm sure there's ways homebrews can squeeze the same functionality into less memory by giving up aesthetics.
#161275 - silent_code - Thu Jul 31, 2008 8:20 pm
NOTE: THIS IS NOT INTENDED TO BE A FLAME POST!
-> This is not directed towards any specific person, but to a group of people. Weather you think you belong to that group or not is up to you. I DON'T CARE. <-
<SUBTEXT_MESSAGE> I'm sure about something else. Some people wouldn't like it.
I don't see how homebrew developers are "better" or more capable than commercial developers... I mean, DO we have a homebrew browser that's on par with Opera for the NDS? No-oh?
That should speak for itself.
Official developers should not be underestimated - in any case. It's beyond me how anyone could even do that?
I'm not saying that it's impossible to create a very usable homebrew web browser for the NDS, maybe even a "better" one then Opera's, just that I'm not aware of anybody, who actually managed to do it, yet (even though some have tried and most have failed), because it's quite a task.
... And I still don't get web browsing on the NDS in general - sorry!
My opinion:
People "living" in the damn net (that's why they have to have a mobile browser with them all the time) should get a net book instead of a gaming console and stop complaining.
And who needs flash on a mobile device these days? Does the iPhone have flash? No. ("Users want it, experts don't think it's necessary." <- I guess you know on whose side I am.)
It's quite powerful, (at least it seems to be - I haven't even touched one, yet - don't misunderstand me, it's nothing I am actually missing in my life), but it doesn't have flash? How can that be? Oh, I know: HTML is for making websites! Flash is for making entertainment content and maybe even small visual enhancements. Ok.
But websites made entirely in flash? Thank you very much, but: No.
Anything that does not display in a text browser is excluding disabled people, especially blind ones (you know, they can still use that finger monitor thing and people with bad eyes can switch the HTML style to something that makes it easier to read for them etc. etc.), and thus is anything but a colorful failure to me.
What's else in flash besides movie and music streaming clients that isn't in the FAILED cathegory I just mentioned? Ah, flash GAMES!
Web games on a (probably underpowered - for this task) handheld gaming console... right!?
I realize that there are some web based games out there, that don't have a handheld equivalent, but then: Who cares? Play your browser games in a BROWSER ... on a PC or Mac. Or make a request in the forum and see if anyone does care to port it.
Now, what's left that would require flash on a handheld? No, I really want to know this time! Please share your thoughts!
Until net books get even (??) smaller, I don't think our friendly neighbourhood "web victims" will get fully pleased.
Neat Tip of the Day: If you want to watch youtube videos on a mobile device, just download the .flv, convert it with Super and there you have it: Teh ut00bz 1 da wejz.
@ whatevas:
I don't have the know-how to judge you (I'm not a judge - I neither don't even want to be one, nor do I want to behave like one {that was a very strange ... sentence - I believe}), but I guess, if you don't have the know-how, then you probably shouldn't make statements (in contrast to assumptions or suggestions), that require know-how.
PS: Text browsers should not be compared to graphical ones, in terms of memory consumption. You know, Opera has images and all. That needs memory.
What makes you think that "most homebrew takes less memory"? Can you elaborate? You know, this is beyond logic for me. No really, I don't see any logic in that statement.
And it's: one homebrew, two homebrew, lot of homebrew, always homebrew.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not mad at you (as I stated beforehand, I really don't care).
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#161282 - blue_fire - Thu Jul 31, 2008 9:37 pm
well... thanks for the imput :P
#161331 - whatevas - Fri Aug 01, 2008 3:55 pm
silent_code:
My statement is implicitly influenced by other commercial vs open-source (such as homebrews) that I'd came across before.
Example:
Microsoft IE vs Mozilla FireFox
Microsoft Office vs Open Office
Adobe Acrobat vs Foxit
All of which the latter tends to perform more efficiently.
The reason behind this is that commercial programs tend to have more features that are not necessary which end up bogging down the performance speed.
Open-source programs tend to stay focussed on the only task it needs to do and that's all it's going to do, saving memory from not having the extra features.
I've never used the Opera on DS to see if it does have junk features, and was jumping to conclusions. So sure, you win, sue me.
Obviously, if you spent the time to type out a wall of text to question mine and others' replies, then you do care. I hate it when people try to act indifferent after making a comment on forums; if you didn't care, you wouldn't have replied.
So yes, I am very irritated by your post -- hence the response -- as were you after reading the posts above you, clearly.
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#161350 - silent_code - Fri Aug 01, 2008 9:32 pm
What I mean by that, is that everyone can do what they want and I don't care. If somebody feels directly insulted by my previous post, then I don't care... Beause that post was directed against people I am fed up with (in the current context, not in general).
BUT: I try to inform people as good as I can, so that we all can learn from each other. I was kind of specific to what I don't give a darn about, which doesn't mean I don't care about anything. That's a false assumption.
When I get annoyed by some recurring topics, I sometimes write a more lenghly post and pack a lot of stuff into it. Yeah. It's not that common, though.
Also, regarding the last sentence, I just meant that it didn't touch me in any way what you wrote, I just wanted to get these things off my mind. That's why I wrote "I don't care" - could be misleading though.
As I made clear, I don't care (I just used that word the gazilionth time ;^D ), so I won't sue you. ;^p
I think that expressing my point of view in a way that would be clear to everybody is quite hard in this case. I'm sorry about that.
But I don't think I am acting anything near indifferent. That may just be your interpretation.
Finally, I request we don't speculate about wheather I do or I don't care... that's a waste of time.
I still fail to see how your assumptions apply to NDS homebrew.
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#161823 - Musturd12 - Thu Aug 14, 2008 10:41 pm
one word: YouTube
YouTube support would be nice, albeit highly improbable, possibly impossible
#161831 - tepples - Fri Aug 15, 2008 4:03 am
I've already got my PC to transcode YouTube videos for my DS: keepvid.com -> ffmpeg -> dpgenc.
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#161842 - Musturd12 - Fri Aug 15, 2008 7:40 am
True...
but being able to stream videos would be better. Of course, now that I think about it, if I have wifi, I'll probably end up being on a computer so whatever.
Though, it would be nice.
#162492 - Darkflame - Wed Sep 03, 2008 11:28 pm
How about Chrome DS then? :p
(Yeah, I know,Ram prohibits it, but the thought is nice...)
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