#51725 - PhoenixSoft - Tue Aug 23, 2005 5:06 am
http://ds.ign.com/articles/644/644175p1.html
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Nintendo of America revealed today that, when Metroid Prime Pinball ships on October 24th, the game will include a DS Rumble Pak accessory that plugs directly into the GBA slot of the Nintendo DS system.
With the Rumble Pack installed, the Nintendo DS will offer user feedback so that players can feel bumps and nudges as the ball ricochets on the screen. No word on if past game have and future games will incorporate support for the rumble pack.
We'll have more details on Metroid Prime Pinball and its Rumble Pack as they're made available. |
The only DS homebrew solution that doesn't need a GBA flash cart in the DS is WiFiMe, right? Because it will be great to be able to use the rumble pack in homebrew games (once someone figures out how to control it).
#51736 - Dwedit - Tue Aug 23, 2005 5:45 am
Cartridge swapping after running a multiboot game?
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#51739 - tepples - Tue Aug 23, 2005 6:02 am
Doesn't the system like to reset after you pak-swap? At least my GBA does this whenever I load a .mb game, eject the flash cart, and reinsert it.
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#51750 - Dwedit - Tue Aug 23, 2005 9:09 am
Mine resets about 5% of the time after re-inserting a cartridge. I think the GBC switch is getting bumped when it happens, so a DS would have less problems there.
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#51752 - chishm - Tue Aug 23, 2005 9:18 am
Mine has never reset on pak swapping, which is why I rely on it for the GBAMP save tool. I thought that pak swapping did nothing to harm the GBA (or program running) when the cart is not being accessed, but I guess I was wrong.
#51772 - Ilomoga - Tue Aug 23, 2005 12:31 pm
If the DS would, it would only do it if a DS cart is inserted and not a GBA cart, wouldn't it?
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#51786 - ethoscapade - Tue Aug 23, 2005 1:51 pm
i just hope the damn thing doesn't stick out like i know it's going to.
#51791 - tepples - Tue Aug 23, 2005 3:50 pm
It might be related to how my game handles interrupts and/or DMA. I notice I tend to get resets on reinsertion more often in some areas of a program than in others. Once I narrow it down I'll probably split this and post the result in GBA Coding.
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#51807 - octopusfluff - Tue Aug 23, 2005 5:27 pm
| tepples wrote: |
| It might be related to how my game handles interrupts and/or DMA. I notice I tend to get resets on reinsertion more often in some areas of a program than in others. Once I narrow it down I'll probably split this and post the result in GBA Coding. |
The DS tends to tolerate swapping cartridges if it's in sleep mode when it happens and it's not needing anything off the original cartridge.
So a homebrew app could load all its assets to EWRAM, then put up a big notice to close the screen, change the cart, and open.
Closing the screen isn't strictly necessary from a programming standpoint for putting the unit in sleep mode, as I understand it, but it's a pretty explicit mechanism for the player to indicate 'standby' and 'resume'.
#53532 - CubeGuy - Fri Sep 09, 2005 1:25 am
| ethoscapade wrote: |
| i just hope the damn thing doesn't stick out like i know it's going to. |
It might not. I'd think that Nintendo would want it to fit in the spare GBA cartrage slot in the DS game cases.
#53557 - knight0fdragon - Fri Sep 09, 2005 4:24 am
the only time i had the DS power off is when using the movie player, switching from game to player, or vice versa
#53600 - tepples - Fri Sep 09, 2005 5:13 pm
| CubeGuy wrote: |
| ethoscapade wrote: | | i just hope the damn thing doesn't stick out like i know it's going to. |
It might not. I'd think that Nintendo would want it to fit in the spare GBA cartrage slot in the DS game cases. |
Would a motor and its weight disc fit in the GBA cart slot? They didn't for any of the GBC games that had a vibrator.
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#53635 - caitsith2 - Sat Sep 10, 2005 2:32 am
Remember, a gba game needed some room for a rom, and in most cases, some form of save chip, (be it flash, eeprom, or sram.), and likely some hardware for the rumble motor itself. Also, a motor doesn't strictly need some weighted rumble discs to rumble. In fact, the rumble motor inside of gamecube controllers doesn't have any such weighted discs. Instead, it seems the motor is purposely put off balance, by doing less windings around one of the winding coils. (ther is usually 3 or more coils in a motor.)
Also, the pak might lilely still be designed in such a way that it still fits in the case.
I could see other potential option packs be possible, like a tilt sensor pack, or a solar sensor pack.
#53646 - cybereality - Sat Sep 10, 2005 5:05 am
The add on paks for GB/GBA always stuck out of the gameboy (like the tilt pinball, the kurby that rumbled, etc.). Except this is a DS game, so the GBA cart would only be the rumble, no ROM, no RAM, no battery. So I imagine it will fit snug in the cart port. We'll see.
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#53696 - Diskun - Sat Sep 10, 2005 6:39 pm
Well guys, I have had one of the DS-GBA Rumble Paks on my hands, they look like normal-sized GBA Carts, but they have inside some circuitry (is it said in English?) and a rather big flat brushless not-rotating vibration motor.
A bit weak, but pretty cool to play with Metroid Pinball :P