#55002 - cybereality - Sat Sep 24, 2005 2:00 pm
It looks like the PSP is getting some heat from the gaming press. In the latest issue of PSM magazine there is a 2-page spread called "Whats Wrong with the PSP?" The articles sites dead pixels, bad load times, and horrible battery life among other complaints. And this is from a Playstation magazine! Then I read an article on Gamasutra (DS vs PSP) which is an open debate as to which system is better. They seemed to get far more responses from the DS crowd and the general consensus is that Nintendo has won at least this next holiday season. Comments included things like the DS is a sturdier system (better for kids), DS is way cheaper, games are more fun/original, etc. People in the PSP camp mostly resorted to saying it can play MP3s and UMDs, and rarely compared it on games alone.
This is not too surprising. All the people I know with a PSP, dont seem to be as satisfied with the purchase as I am with my DS. One person I know told me his PSP has been collecting dust for months and that he will probably get a DS. Other friends of mine with neither system agree that the DS games are just more fun. At first I thought Sony was going to kill the DS, but now it seems that the general public has actually realized (for once) that it is the games that are important.
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#55003 - falcon!!! - Sat Sep 24, 2005 2:18 pm
ds can play mp3 too, thanks to moonshell ;)
#55019 - deltro - Sat Sep 24, 2005 6:25 pm
Falc, most people aren't in the homebrew scene at all, a few guys at gamestop barely knew that the PSP had a browser.
#55021 - tepples - Sat Sep 24, 2005 6:37 pm
| deltro wrote: |
| most people aren't in the homebrew scene at all |
But they will see Play-Yan v2 in stores once it's released worldwide this holiday season.
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#55026 - deltro - Sat Sep 24, 2005 8:49 pm
| tepples wrote: |
| deltro wrote: | | most people aren't in the homebrew scene at all |
But they will see Play-Yan v2 in stores once it's released worldwide this holiday season. |
If that's a joke, I don't get it ._.
#55027 - tepples - Sat Sep 24, 2005 9:05 pm
| deltro wrote: |
| tepples wrote: | | deltro wrote: | | most people aren't in the homebrew scene at all |
But they will see Play-Yan v2 in stores once it's released worldwide this holiday season. |
If that's a joke, I don't get it ._. |
No joke. Nintendo plans to release Play-Yan v2 worldwide during the 2005 holiday season, and GBA SP and GBA Micro will be just as capable of playing MPEG-4 videos as the PSP is.
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#55037 - Elrinth - Sun Sep 25, 2005 12:06 am
PSP gaming scene is looking better and better by each day... remake of megaman x and megaman 1. port of suikoden 1 & 2 on same disc.
GTA Liberty City (even tho I'm not a big fan of the series)
however, it's no match vs DS games ;)
#55041 - Sebbo - Sun Sep 25, 2005 12:30 am
worldwide as in japan + nothern america?
nintendo australia hasn't said anything yet, and i'm not really sure about nintendo europe either
on a side note, i'm thinking of bulk-buying GBA MPs and then selling them at the sunday markets here in town, and mayb in front of EB if i can get away with it :-P i'm sure alot of ppl out there would love to have a cheap, portable movie/music player without shelling out for a psp
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#55050 - lambi1982 - Sun Sep 25, 2005 2:00 am
this may sound rude to the PSP scene but THE PSP SUCKS.
I cant believe I got one ( well I traded an XBOX for it, I was so mad after having it for a while I went out and got another XBOX. The DS blows it away. the PSP has only one game and that is Lumins. all other games suck. I only use it for the browser now( just when I am in bed and want to see if there is anything new on these threads).
The games look like shit on the PSP. Its funny, since the psp has so much more power over the DS i exect the games to look WAY better. but since my expectations are as high as they are ( on par with PS2 my ass)
the Games look like shit to me. THEY REALLY DO
I am NINTENDO all the way forever. I trust them because they are about games and the people who play them. NOT JUST THE NAME AND THE MONEY **COUGH**SONY**Cough**
I would rather get a stereo from them. I think they just got lucky with the playstation scene and they will be going down hill from now on.
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#55051 - chishm - Sun Sep 25, 2005 2:02 am
| Sebbo wrote: |
| on a side note, i'm thinking of bulk-buying GBA MPs and then selling them at the sunday markets here in town, and mayb in front of EB if i can get away with it :-P i'm sure alot of ppl out there would love to have a cheap, portable movie/music player without shelling out for a psp |
Maybe offer a modding service too. Although mod chips are now illegal in Australia (thank you John Howard and FTA) the firmware mod may not be. It doesn't directly allow you to play pirate games, but does allow you to run home brew software (fair use). I am not a legal expert so don't blame me if you get arrested :-P .
#55052 - Sebbo - Sun Sep 25, 2005 2:05 am
hehe, might think about that...haven't flashed my ds yet tho
apparently there was a case a little back where sony sued a guy who was installing mod chips to bypass the region encoding. sony lost the case and the judge said that region encoding is stupid. nothing has changed tho
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#55625 - The 9th Sage - Fri Sep 30, 2005 3:19 am
| cybereality wrote: |
This is not too surprising. All the people I know with a PSP, dont seem to be as satisfied with the purchase as I am with my DS. One person I know told me his PSP has been collecting dust for months and that he will probably get a DS. |
That's funny...someone I was talking to at a local EB was saying pretty much that exact same thing.
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#55643 - tepples - Fri Sep 30, 2005 5:11 am
| The 9th Sage wrote: |
| That's funny...someone I was talking to at a local EB was saying pretty much that exact same thing. |
On the other hand, the man at my EB store was a big fan of "Loo-Mines" and of putting movies on a Memory Stick.
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#55668 - EZ-034 - Fri Sep 30, 2005 11:20 am
umm... mod-chips are not illegal in australia you only get arrested for selling copyd games mod-chips are only frowned apon(it will probably change soon tho)
#55674 - Eclipse - Fri Sep 30, 2005 2:43 pm
Yeah I just sold my PSP yesterday, I hadn't used it in over 4 months, it was the biggest waste of money I ever spent.
#55686 - TheMikaus - Fri Sep 30, 2005 4:53 pm
I agree that right now the PSP seems to be a waste of money. But I think the games that will coming out for it soon are worth it. I usually only have about 10 games for a system anyway. And right now I already have 3 or 4 games that I'd like to get for the PSP (I don't own one yet).
It just hasn't been out long enough to have enough good selections.
I mean. The number of games that I want for the PSP is only shadowed by the DS by maybe 2 games.
I think the PSP itself has the capability to look like PS2 graphics (or at least between the PSX and PS2), it's just that games haven't come out to showcase it really.
Other than the selection I think people would be happier with the PSP if it cost less and had a longer battery life. (Which are two of the three important factors. Third one being game selection)
Just rambling of a strange person. Feel free to ignore it :)
#55688 - M3d10n - Fri Sep 30, 2005 5:15 pm
The reason I got a DS and have no interest on the PSP whatsoever is exactly the games. Of course the PSP line up will improve, but that isn't the point for me. I don't care how many GTA games it'll get, or how that port of the lastest multi-platform game looks and plays almost like the PS2 version.
PSP games play and feel like console games to me. It's a mini-PS2 at heart, and that doesn't quite thrill me: if I want console games with the lastest graphics, I'd go for the bigger brother instead. I find it redundant.
Before the DS was out, I was interested in getting myself a GBA, since it was the only way left to get some good non-pretentious 2D experience, in a world where most console games pretend to be the alpha and the omega epitome of movie-ish gaming experience. I enjoy a nice 2D game that is nicely polished because the developers didn't need to spend most of the development time squeezing more polygons on the screen.
#55717 - Eclipse - Fri Sep 30, 2005 10:10 pm
"I think the PSP itself has the capability to look like PS2 graphics (or at least between the PSX and PS2), it's just that games haven't come out to showcase it really. "
Yeah on this note the psp acctually has a 333mhz processory but it's limited by the offical psp dev kit to 2/3rds of the power at the moment because all the power would kill the current battery...or so I have been told. So the games can and will look better, but thats not the point to me. The psp is jsut a portible PS2 as stated multiple times. The only half way intresting games for it are already on bigger and better consols. I'm not THAT head over heels that I have to be able to play burnout EVERYWHERE I GO. Plus the PSP version of burnout feels like crap with that nub >_<. But thats just my rant, feel free to ignore it :D. On the other hand I am loving the Micro I just got with my trade in credit :D.
#55845 - NoMis - Mon Oct 03, 2005 10:51 am
I'm not uninteressted in a psp but I won't get one unless there are some games that I'm really interrested in and the battary life time gets improved. It's also very expensive and somehow I will pay for a lot of features that I'm not even intressted in.
The main problems are the games imo. After all I think the people just want a system like this to play games. The video, mp3 playback and all the additional features are kinda like a gimmik. People will use it a while and then they are not interrested in it, just like when the first mobile phones with camaras came out.
They were no real alternativ to real digi cams just like PSP is no good alternative to the iPod as an MP3 player.
And why should I pay the price of a DVD for an UMD video that I can only watch on a PSP? Why should I watch movies on that thing anyway?? I just want to play games!
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#55903 - M3d10n - Mon Oct 03, 2005 11:21 pm
Maybe Sony could release a games-only PSP, but I don't see anyway to make it cheaper by doing so, since the media capabilities are actually side effects of the core hardware.
#55957 - Mchart - Tue Oct 04, 2005 10:03 pm
The main reason the majority of PSP games look worse then PS2 is because if the developers were to higher res textures, you would then end up with loading times that would kill the game.
I think the PSP could have been successful if it would have started out with a better line up of games, and continued to get great games for it; but it is to late, and I think the PSP will die soon. Sony, which is allready loosing lots of money off of every sale of a PSP, and making little money from people buying games for the PSP (since the majority of PSP games are just plain console ports, or have horrendous loading times), will be either forced to pull production of the PSP, or jack up prices of the PSP. Obviously, jacking prices up for the PSP would instantly kill the handheld, so I think within a few years PSP production will definatly stop.
As other users have said; there really is no point in having the PSP, as the PSP is not very portable, and its games feel like PS2 games.
#55960 - Eclipse - Tue Oct 04, 2005 11:10 pm
Just a kind of funny addition to this thread. I work at a Gamestop in Texas and the last day I worked was last Friday. At that point we had 3-4 used PSP's and 4 used DS's. When I went in yesterday to pick up my Nintendogs standee Our PSP section had EXPLODED! We had 7 used PSP's (still only 4 used DS). And we had to expand our PSP section to 4 cabinets to make room for all the used movies and games we were getting because the section had been over flowing for a WHILE.
To put it in perspective I guess we have about 1 row of used DS games (with only a select few used), while we have a whoel cabinet for used PSP games (and basiclly every game on the market we have used). It seems people are finally starting to get upset with it. And I personally don't see GTA:LCS doing anything to change that. The people that WOULD buy it have a better version for a more powerful system in GTA:SA. So yeah...I'm intrested to see what the coming months/years will bring for the system.
#55981 - Mchart - Wed Oct 05, 2005 4:18 am
| Eclipse wrote: |
Just a kind of funny addition to this thread. I work at a Gamestop in Texas and the last day I worked was last Friday. At that point we had 3-4 used PSP's and 4 used DS's. When I went in yesterday to pick up my Nintendogs standee Our PSP section had EXPLODED! We had 7 used PSP's (still only 4 used DS). And we had to expand our PSP section to 4 cabinets to make room for all the used movies and games we were getting because the section had been over flowing for a WHILE.
To put it in perspective I guess we have about 1 row of used DS games (with only a select few used), while we have a whoel cabinet for used PSP games (and basiclly every game on the market we have used). It seems people are finally starting to get upset with it. And I personally don't see GTA:LCS doing anything to change that. The people that WOULD buy it have a better version for a more powerful system in GTA:SA. So yeah...I'm intrested to see what the coming months/years will bring for the system. |
What's funny about that is I remember when the PSP came out, and about for a month thereafter most game stores were overflowing with used DS's. Obviously, it's the opposite now. I think just that is a clear sign of how good the DS is. (And I laugh, and I say 'I told you so' to all the people that god rid of their DS, and then traded it in for a PSP)
My local gamestop right now has 2 used PSP's and only 1 used DS. When the PSP came out they had like 15 DS's just sitting there in the used cabinet.
#56004 - M3d10n - Wed Oct 05, 2005 12:06 pm
| Mchart wrote: |
| The main reason the majority of PSP games look worse then PS2 is because if the developers were to higher res textures, you would then end up with loading times that would kill the game. |
No, it's because it got only 2MBs of VRAM, while the PS2 got 4MBs. Plus, AFAIK, the PSP memory bus isn't as fast as the PS2, so they can't do the DMA tricks to copy textures from the system RAM to the video RAM mid-rendering. All it can do is hardware compression. That's why many games have textures comparable to last generation N64 games in size.
some PS2 games use ~12MBs worth of textures using this technique. Actually, the console itself was designed around that concept since day one.
#56044 - TheMikaus - Wed Oct 05, 2005 6:24 pm
Although the used section information is slightly interesting. You have to take into account that there are a boat load of movies for the psp so the amount of things for the psp that can be used is far greater than the number of things the ds can have used.
#56076 - tepples - Wed Oct 05, 2005 10:01 pm
PSP movies are just region-coded games with big honkin' FMVs. What you see with UMD Video is mostly the PSP's ability to stream data from a 1.8 GB storage medium, not any special feature of the graphics hardware.
And there aren't as many UMD Video movies as GBA games, are there?
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#56083 - TJ - Wed Oct 05, 2005 10:28 pm
| Quote: |
| The main reason the majority of PSP games look worse then PS2 is because if the developers were to higher res textures, you would then end up with loading times that would kill the game. |
It's probably worth mentioning that it is physically impossible for a PSP game to ever look as good as the PS2, as the PSP screen resolution is substantially lower than NTSC standard.
#56088 - Mr. Picklesworth - Wed Oct 05, 2005 11:53 pm
Assuming Play-yan 2 was to work out, it would, in fact, be superior to a few of the PSPs multi-media functionalities, for one very simple reason:
--Compact Flash Cards can be considered standard
--Memory Stick is not standard, and can not be plugged into a wide variety of digital devices.
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#56090 - Sebbo - Thu Oct 06, 2005 12:13 am
uhh, play-yan uses SD cards ;-) close tho
SD cards are also a helluvalot cheaper than memory sticks
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#56093 - tepples - Thu Oct 06, 2005 12:43 am
| TJ wrote: |
| it is physically impossible for a PSP game to ever look as good as the PS2, as the PSP screen resolution is substantially lower than NTSC standard. |
Oh really? Most PS2 units output a composite video signal to a television monitor. Composite video works by splitting the video signal into two frequency bands. The lower frequency band (DC to 2.7 MHz) carries sync and luminance (brightness), and the upper frequency band (2.7 to 4.5 MHz) carries chrominance (hue and saturation). The 2.7 MHz frequency range of luminance translates to about 480 horizontal pixels at best, and because the splitting isn't perfect, you still get dot crawl and muddy results around the left and right edges of brightly colored areas (PS1 boot screen anyone?).
Composite video signals are also interlaced. An interlaced picture only contains the data for half the scanlines in each frame: odd lines in one frame and even lines in the next frame. There are about 448 visible scanlines in an NTSC picture, and only 224 are updated each frame. Granted, a lot of PS2 games run at 30 Hz so you get 480x448 usable pixels, but if you're running two players on one screen, each player still gets only half the vertical space.
Therefore, each player's window is 480x224 pixels. Compare this to 480x272 on the PSP, which uses a dedicated LCD for each player.
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#56096 - lambi1982 - Thu Oct 06, 2005 2:44 am
I skipped most of these threads just because they were repeating over and over again. So I will repeat some if it more, The PSP sucks :)
Who cares at this point what the system Can do..... Stupid battery life. Thats just an excuse............. The system was over hyped ( I think) kinda the same for the DS... Just a bad time for hand helds...
With systems going from this generation to the next generation, handhelds just dont seem to fit.... Maybe that is just me. I am Huge into gaming from handhelds to PC's, I just havent found myself really excited ( as I was for Mario64, GBA, splinter cell chaos theory (xbox) )
whatever, maybe Im just hoping for too much, then again no I am not. 250$$$ for a system that blows ( stupid me ) should have read the other options tepples listed instead of buying a PSP,
like a potable dvd player, mp3 player and all the other stuff he mentioned, I did get a DVD player with a 11 inch screen ( bye bye UMD MOVIES ) I have XBOX, GAMECUBE, DS AND MY PC ( bye bye PSP GAMES) great I have a black piece of plastic that lights up worth 250$$
I just got Burnout REVENGE for XBOX and Burnout legends for PSP ( yeah I LOVE BURNOUT) it is just doesnt work for the PSP just too much for a handheld screen.
DAMN I NEED TO GO HAVE A DRINK
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#56098 - deltro - Thu Oct 06, 2005 3:11 am
The PSP is a powerful system when it comes to running homebrew, emulators, and ports- Just like the DC it's processor is just powerful enough for a slight possibility of PSX emulation.
The DS is a less powerful portable, though it has quite a bit more possibility for homebrew PC app ports. But, due to processor limitations, it's abiliyies may be choked out a bit. Same with the lack of uniformity among storage devices.
#56100 - tepples - Thu Oct 06, 2005 3:18 am
Lack of uniformity is less of a problem when the GBAMP costs $25, which is especially affordable to people who already own digital cameras that use CompactFlash media. (I got taken slightly because my older camera uses SmartMedia, but that's part of why I got a 4-in-1 reader so that I don't have to transfer over the slow-donkey serial port anymore.)
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#56101 - Abscissa - Thu Oct 06, 2005 3:21 am
I hate playing games on the go. I'd always prefer to play on a nice big TV screen (GBPlayer==good :). If I had known about it from day one, I wouldn't have even gotten a GBA. The only thing I still use my GBA for is writing flash carts). And in the extremely rare instances I do have a chance to play anything while I'm out, I'd rather just pull out my PDA and play Mahjong or Solitaire. So I've never bought portables for the portability, I just buy them for the games. And like someone in an earlier post, I liked the GBA for it's unwillingness to kill the far superior 2D-style of games. (OT: That's strange...my delete key just stopped working, haha...) To be honest, when I started hanging around gbadev here, I was VERY surprised to discover that there's people who actually DO play portables on-the-go. Go figure :).
That said, I'm really enjoying reading through this thread and then thinking back to all the people who were SOOO completely certain that the PSP would do to Nintendo's portables what the PS1 did to the N64 (Even despite the circumstances being completely different).
| lambi1982 wrote: |
| I just got Burnout REVENGE for XBOX and Burnout legends for PSP ( yeah I LOVE BURNOUT) it is just doesnt work for the PSP just too much for a handheld screen. |
Sorry for getting offtopic, but does Burnout Revenge have that special "go for the most expensive crash you can get" mode that's in Burnout 2? I played Burnout Revenge at a store kiosk and didn't see it anywhere in the menus, but maybe it's always just been an unlockable?
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#56103 - The 9th Sage - Thu Oct 06, 2005 3:56 am
| Abscissa wrote: |
| And like someone in an earlier post, I liked the GBA for it's unwillingness to kill the far superior 2D-style of games. |
If that's the case and you have a DS, I hope you're playing Castlevania right now. Wow that game is fantastic. Graphically, sound-wise, just everything. O_O
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#56104 - lambi1982 - Thu Oct 06, 2005 4:21 am
OFF TOPIC---------> I have all of the Burnout Games and (2) is the best of them all.... it was the music. I just love how it is techno music and fades into heavy rock/ metal when using boost. they should have left that in instead of use that stupid EA trax. but revenge is just awesome in its own way....
SORRY FOR THAT
Homebrew on the PSP is cool, i cant deny that but what about those who dont do homebrew. they are stuck with a piece of shit. once the DS has brain games, card games and other quick style games i do believe it will blow the PSP away.(even more)
the power factor it a big difference but 333 aint really fast. some cell phones are faster. (smart phones)
they only way the PSP would have been a hands down winner and would have ruled this handheld war is if had a touch screen.
just think about... CMON i want you all to picture this.....
*** A $250 P>>>D>>>>A............. CLIE i mean PSP
thats all that was being held back, 2 screens is just a way of having a fold up big screen. PSP would be very nice with touch screen.
hey sony please add a Touch screen, usb host control, standard dvd-rom drive keyboard and while you are at it even a mouse and 7.1 digital surround, wait thats called a VIO
PSP = WASTE OF MONEY
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#56108 - Abscissa - Thu Oct 06, 2005 5:55 am
| lambi1982 wrote: |
| hey sony please add a Touch screen, usb host control, standard dvd-rom drive keyboard and while you are at it even a mouse and 7.1 digital surround, wait thats called a VIO |
Heh, in PSP form, that would drain the battery faster than the game could even boot :)
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#56214 - deltro - Fri Oct 07, 2005 4:23 am
| lambi1982 wrote: |
The power factor it a big difference but 333 aint really fast. some cell phones are faster. (smart phones) |
333 is awesome for a phone, 333mhz is plenty to run pre-2000 computer games. Unreal, Quake 3, Starcraft, Age of Empires 2, and Rollercoaster Tycoon- which is perfect for hours of fun.
| lambi1982 wrote: |
The only way the PSP would have been a hands down winner and would have ruled this handheld war is if it had a touch screen.
just think about... C'MON I want you all to picture this..... |
If you honestly thing that, you need to have your brain removed, and eaten, because it seems to me that it would be much more useful for feeding starving children in Africa.
| lambi1982 wrote: |
| A $250 PDA... CLIE, I mean PSP |
What the hell is wrong with that?!
| lambi1982 wrote: |
| That's all that was being held back, 2 screens is just a way of having a fold up big screen. PSP would be very nice with touch screen. |
Hmm, I don't picture any PSP games working well with a touch-screen or two screens.
| lambi1982 wrote: |
| Hey Sony, please add a touch screen, USB host control, standard DVD-ROM drive, a keyboard, and while you are at it, a mouse, and 7.1 digital surround- wait, that's called a VAIO. |
A $250 handheld laptop? I'd hit it.
| lambi1982 wrote: |
| PSP = WASTE OF MONEY |
Welcome to http://forum.gbadev.org, now go away.
#56242 - El Hobito - Fri Oct 07, 2005 11:50 am
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| Hmm, I don't picture any PSP games working well with a touch-screen or two screens. |
do you even own a ds?
put it this way if metroid prime hunters was on the psp and ds and you could play against each other online who's win and by a considerable margin. Now tell me if coded arms was on the the ds with online play too. Im sure lummines would benefit it too. Maybe tepples will consider it for luminesweeperDs heh!
#56248 - headspin - Fri Oct 07, 2005 1:21 pm
IMO The bottom line is, if you like handhelds you will like both the DS and PSP. If you can't afford a PSP then that's fair enough. But I personally don't understand the whole Sony vs Nintendo thing at all, since I come from a Atari/C64/Amiga/PC lineage and have never owned a console (except for a N64 for a short while).
I guess it's similar to the whole ST vs Amiga thing back in the days, but I really like both consoles. And the whole thing about games, well I don't like many games for the DS (except homebrew and Mario64 which I completed on N64), and I really like Virtua Tennis and Lumines for PSP. So right there it has two games more than the DS that I actually like and play. My g/f likes Nintendogs, but I find it annoying hearing her yell out to her dog for hours.
DS had stuff all games out for it when it was released (PSP was only just released recently in Australia), so there will be more games for PSP to come. And if they are all PS2 clones then good, since I've never owned one I'm quite happy about that.
And finally, that argument about "better off getting a PS2 and watch it on the big telly" defeats the purpose of a portable console. I like sitting on my ass staring at a little LCD screen playing games. I like seeing old computer emu's running on little handhelds, it's retro and it's cool (as far as this geek is concerned). So I will have both my DS and PSP, and I will love and care for them equally. The End.
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#56257 - El Hobito - Fri Oct 07, 2005 1:59 pm
yeah the psp is certainly a lot better if you dont already own a ps2. But it is a bit pointless if you do unless you want two copies of everything. I'm suprised you dont like Aw, meteos or even castlevania though.
#56266 - lambi1982 - Fri Oct 07, 2005 3:28 pm
deltro you dont think games would work on the PSP with Touch screen?
ARE YOU NUTS
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#56272 - Abscissa - Fri Oct 07, 2005 3:41 pm
Uh oh...
(*ducks under the table*)
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#56317 - tssf - Fri Oct 07, 2005 9:01 pm
| El Hobito wrote: |
| yeah the psp is certainly a lot better if you dont already own a ps2. But it is a bit pointless if you do unless you want two copies of everything. I'm suprised you dont like Aw, meteos or even castlevania though. |
I have Castlevania, tried the Meteos demo, but haven't tried advance wars. Is it good?
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#56323 - Sebbo - Fri Oct 07, 2005 9:42 pm
as good as the last few games in the series. it's mainly been some gameplay tweaks, but why fix what isn't broken?
i'd prefer to play metroid hunters on the DS than the PSP... my hand would always be in the way of the screen if it was on PSP
personally, i don't like many (if any (shit, that sounds a bit like Scribe there :-P)) PS2 games... i may be generalising, but alot of ps2 exclusive games are either senseless violence, rip-off clones or just aren't my genre. on the otherhand, i find alot of GC (well, nintendo in general) games really fun
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#56325 - Wckd_Spn - Fri Oct 07, 2005 10:05 pm
If you like the PSP for it's homebrew software potential, why not pick up a GP2X for which homebrew is a primary purpose? It's cheaper.
#56344 - tepples - Sat Oct 08, 2005 2:10 am
For one thing, there aren't any compelling commercial games for Game Park products. But more importantly, you won't randomly encounter a lot of people to play 2-player games with, and that's ultimately because you can't buy Game Park products in North American retail chains.
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#56359 - Abscissa - Sat Oct 08, 2005 4:32 am
| Sebbo wrote: |
| personally, i don't like many (if any (shit, that sounds a bit like Scribe there :-P)) PS2 games... i may be generalising, but alot of ps2 exclusive games are either senseless violence, rip-off clones or just aren't my genre. on the otherhand, i find alot of GC (well, nintendo in general) games really fun |
I'm with you on that, for the most part. But there are a small handful of PS2 exclusives that, for me, made the PS2 worthwhile (in addition to my wonderful GC, of course): Frequency, AntiGrav, both PS2 Contras, Ico, Katamari, Silpheed (well, it's semi-exclusive), Stretch Panic, and Rez. While I'm on that topic there's also a few really good XBox exclusives besides Halo that most people overlook: Outrun 2 (best game remake ever), Amped, THPS 2x (best hawk game ever), Dead or Alive 3, Munch's Odysee, and Sega GT.
But, yea, the GC still has by far the biggest number of exclusives I find worthwhile.
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#56910 - Feri - Wed Oct 12, 2005 6:19 am
I can tell u more great ps2 games:
Gran Turismo, Ridge Racer, Need for Speed Underground, Pro Evolution Soccer, Final Fantasy X, Metal Gear Solid 3, Silent Hill 3, Soul Callibur 3, Onimusha 3, Burnout Revenge, GTA San Andres...
And the most important reasons, the Anime Games:
DragonBall Z Budokai Tenkaichi, Naruto, Bleach, One Piece, Saint Seiya, Inu Yasha, Detective Conan, Full Metal Alchemist, Inital D, Prince of Tennis, Neon Genesis Evangelion, Green Green, Street Fighter, Gundam seed...
though i have to say that the Naruto 3 Game on Gamecube is better than PS2.
#56911 - TJ - Wed Oct 12, 2005 6:23 am
I can tell u more great ps2 games:
Generally when posting a list of games that make a system worth owning, you would want to avoid multi-console tittles, especially when the other versions are better.
#56929 - NoMis - Wed Oct 12, 2005 9:12 am
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If that's the case and you have a DS, I hope you're playing Castlevania right now. Wow that game is fantastic. Graphically, sound-wise, just everything. O_O |
Yeah the game is really great and shows the power of 2D. I really don't like the 3d castlevania at all but I love the 2D ones.
The graphics are great, espeacially the levels that are combined with 3d backgrounds look awesome.
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#56941 - headspin - Wed Oct 12, 2005 11:59 am
Bring on Soul Calibur for PSP :) Actually I read somewhere that Tekken and Virtua Fighter were being ported to PSP & DS. The fact that Namco is deving for both the PSP and DS is a good sign.
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#56944 - Sebbo - Wed Oct 12, 2005 12:35 pm
namco has really been in bed with nintendo lately...i'm not complaining either
i'm still confused why soul calibur 3 is being made for the ps2...the GC version sold far better, then again that may just because link was a playable character. SC3 would be awesome on the revolution tho
i think we might see a few fighters on the DS since the button layout seems quite good for it (much better than the GC anyway). i'm really curious as to why we haven't seen any rally games for the DS yet, cos they hit the GBA pretty quickly
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#57004 - tepples - Thu Oct 13, 2005 12:08 am
| headspin wrote: |
| The fact that Namco is deving for both the PSP and DS is a good sign. |
Only if it means we're going to get Katamari DamaShii.
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