#59577 - Dudu.exe - Wed Nov 02, 2005 7:42 pm
If you sove a little riddle in the site of Sgstair
http://akkit.org/misc/index.html
you will entrer in the page of his new projec
Field of work
Protocol Design: 50%
Internet Network Code: 0%
NiFi Network Code: 30%
Program Structure: 0%
Total (Core Components): 20%
Additional Features/Projects:
Internet Pictochat Server: 0%
Internet WMB Server: 0%
[quote='sgstair']Hello, and welcome to my new project page! dstunnel will be an application that will allow you to connect multiple DSes over the internet to play multiplayer games, provided each player has a compatible wifi card and drivers. (Presently only the RAlink RT2560 cards are supported, via firefly's driver - More cards are planned to be supported eventually, though!) The project is planned to go into beta in about a week, perhaps less, and my 9 lucky beta testers will have the priviledge of playing normal DS multiplayer games over the internet! (Of course, I'm sure it won't work initially, so they'll also get to have lots of fun testing it when it *doesn't* work, too :)
All fun aside, watch this space for more details on how the program is shaping up, and when it'll be released to the public. [/quote]
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#59583 - Extreme Coder - Wed Nov 02, 2005 8:01 pm
That riddle wasn't so hard, but I'm not telling the link:P
Curses on those who don't know it:)
That project's really cool, but wasn't there a discussion here that it's not possible to tunnel the ds's wifi?
Anyway, I still want GBA wifi multiplayer:x
Cheers,
Extreme Coder
#59588 - alangerow - Wed Nov 02, 2005 8:19 pm
| Extreme Coder wrote: |
That riddle wasn't so hard, but I'm not telling the link:P
Curses on those who don't know it:)
That project's really cool, but wasn't there a discussion here that it's not possible to tunnel the ds's wifi?
Anyway, I still want GBA wifi multiplayer:x
Cheers,
Extreme Coder |
I was thinking that same thing. With all the tunnelling fiasco last winter, I gave up hope on it. But, then I realized, this is Sgstair who's trying to do it. He is the guy who figured out the WiFi stuff. If anyone can get DS tunnelling to work, I think it would be him.
#59591 - Lynx - Wed Nov 02, 2005 8:40 pm
Yup, at least everyone already knows he's legit.. But, who knows.. I'm sure he's got a pretty good understanding of the hardware now, and if latency isn't and issue.. he'd be the one to know.
#59600 - MaHe - Wed Nov 02, 2005 9:05 pm
Wow, that's a thing I'd love to see (and test :p).
Do you need anyone from Central Europe? :P
SgStair and don't forget to add Kick/Ban and other functions for PC server, OK? :D
#59615 - lambi1982 - Wed Nov 02, 2005 10:08 pm
am I the only one who thinks he should stick to one project at a time????
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#59623 - natrium42 - Wed Nov 02, 2005 10:31 pm
| lambi1982 wrote: |
| am I the only one who thinks he should stick to one project at a time???? |
Yes.
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#59625 - Thomas - Wed Nov 02, 2005 10:45 pm
| lambi1982 wrote: |
| am I the only one who thinks he should stick to one project at a time???? |
Yep, think so.
#59626 - tssf - Wed Nov 02, 2005 10:49 pm
If he can manage two projects at once, let him do it. I'm sure he's bored of the wifi project right now. That, or he's so close that he's going to move to something else for now then come back to it.
Whatever the reason, let him do what he wants.
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#59631 - Darkflame - Wed Nov 02, 2005 10:59 pm
| Extreme Coder wrote: |
That project's really cool, but wasn't there a discussion here that it's not possible to tunnel the ds's wifi?
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No...I think its fully possible..just not practical or easy.
Also even the best connections it could be quite slow on.
But then...
Advanced Wars?
Some games it dosnt mater :)
#59764 - Mr Snowflake - Fri Nov 04, 2005 12:06 am
| lambi1982 wrote: |
| am I the only one who thinks he should stick to one project at a time???? |
I understand your thinking, but working on 1 project gets pretty boring. So having another thing to put your mind on is a blessing for both projects :D
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#59772 - lambi1982 - Fri Nov 04, 2005 1:10 am
true, but then you see 30% alot longer.
Hey I guess im just playing devils advocate
Im am happy for the work he is doing for all of us, I respect that....
it just stinks to have to wait for something as cool as internet on the DS, so after he is done, we have to wait for an app to be made.
or online something..........
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#59787 - Darkwind_776 - Fri Nov 04, 2005 3:09 am
ugh. I'm on complete stupid mode with this riddle.
#59796 - lambi1982 - Fri Nov 04, 2005 4:14 am
YOU CANT BE SERIOUS
If you cant figure THAT out, then you shouldnt go to the page.........
cause when you enter the site, the Brain Capacity Sensor will find out your brain is Running on low and your Monitor will blow up...
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#59801 - Darkwind_776 - Fri Nov 04, 2005 4:35 am
| lambi1982 wrote: |
YOU CANT BE SERIOUS
If you cant figure THAT out, then you shouldnt go to the page.........
cause when you enter the site, the Brain Capacity Sensor will find out your brain is Running on low and your Monitor will blow up... |
Sadly I am, though I'm sure it's a solution so simple, I'm over looking it because I think it's more complicated than it acctually is.
#59803 - Dudu.exe - Fri Nov 04, 2005 4:40 am
| Darkwind_776 wrote: |
| lambi1982 wrote: | YOU CANT BE SERIOUS
If you cant figure THAT out, then you shouldnt go to the page.........
cause when you enter the site, the Brain Capacity Sensor will find out your brain is Running on low and your Monitor will blow up... |
Sadly I am, though I'm sure it's a solution so simple, I'm over looking it because I think it's more complicated than it acctually is. |
is more simple then we though oin first place..
keep thinking low..
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#59805 - Darkwind_776 - Fri Nov 04, 2005 4:57 am
| Dudu.exe wrote: |
| Darkwind_776 wrote: | | lambi1982 wrote: | YOU CANT BE SERIOUS
If you cant figure THAT out, then you shouldnt go to the page.........
cause when you enter the site, the Brain Capacity Sensor will find out your brain is Running on low and your Monitor will blow up... |
Sadly I am, though I'm sure it's a solution so simple, I'm over looking it because I think it's more complicated than it acctually is. |
is more simple then we though oin first place..
keep thinking low.. |
Now i feel real stupid after I figured it out.
*sigh* My brain has been mush since quarter finals
#59830 - Sebbo - Fri Nov 04, 2005 11:43 am
hmmm, the alt tags really help...stupid mozilla
that and i kept thinking there should be a slash between the two parts
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#59881 - Freakker - Fri Nov 04, 2005 10:49 pm
I was trying the same.
#59898 - mastertop101 - Sat Nov 05, 2005 3:45 am
| Darkwind_776 wrote: |
| ugh. I'm on complete stupid mode with this riddle. |
I still did not find it.. I really wonder what is it :o..
#59904 - nman - Sat Nov 05, 2005 7:32 am
It's really VERY simple, I found it after second try :)
Just don't think to any complicated.
#59906 - mizzle - Sat Nov 05, 2005 8:22 am
its wicked easy. I didnt get it until i stopped putting slashes in between the two pics. maybe that will help.
#59976 - knight0fdragon - Sun Nov 06, 2005 1:44 am
yea the riddle is not too complicated, but it may be misleading
#59984 - mastertop101 - Sun Nov 06, 2005 2:50 am
still can't find what is it.. could someone say it to me ? :D
[edit] just found it.. :)
#60443 - NoMis - Thu Nov 10, 2005 11:22 am
Look at the uptdates. Awesome! :)
| Quote: |
| The preliminary DSTunnel application has been completed! Now begins the testing, to get an idea of what works and what doesn't. Several bugs have been encountered so far, and the connection isn't exactly stable :) but we should be up and running soon. |
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#60449 - El Hobito - Thu Nov 10, 2005 2:03 pm
| NoMis wrote: |
Look at the uptdates. Awesome! :)
| Quote: | | The preliminary DSTunnel application has been completed! Now begins the testing, to get an idea of what works and what doesn't. Several bugs have been encountered so far, and the connection isn't exactly stable :) but we should be up and running soon. |
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wowah thats quick, though it wont effect me since i can't imagine ever getting support for my usb wifi card
#60452 - darkfader - Thu Nov 10, 2005 2:58 pm
I hope this things gets a plugin system, so I can cheat on you all. Errr.. I mean finding exploits to brick... errr... making PassMe obsolete.
#60459 - lambi1982 - Thu Nov 10, 2005 4:18 pm
Darkfader, whats up with all this babble? What do you have up your sleaves???
;) LOL -------> PLUGme lol, hahahhahahahahhahahhaha
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#60499 - zazery - Fri Nov 11, 2005 2:32 am
Now that Mario Kart DS's battle mode is offline, this tunneling project seems all the more interesting to me. Quite an interesting project.
#60500 - Darkwind_776 - Fri Nov 11, 2005 2:40 am
| NoMis wrote: |
Look at the uptdates. Awesome! :)
| Quote: | | The preliminary DSTunnel application has been completed! Now begins the testing, to get an idea of what works and what doesn't. Several bugs have been encountered so far, and the connection isn't exactly stable :) but we should be up and running soon. |
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Nice =D
#60502 - Alec - Fri Nov 11, 2005 3:01 am
View the source.
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#60545 - Ilomoga - Fri Nov 11, 2005 4:57 pm
Where did you find that?
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#60603 - tepples - Sat Nov 12, 2005 4:17 pm
Do you mean the html source?
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#60606 - Alec - Sat Nov 12, 2005 5:37 pm
Yes.
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#60610 - leoedin - Sat Nov 12, 2005 6:11 pm
umm
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<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd">
<html lang='en'>
<head>
<META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1">
<title>akkit.org/xxxx - Wifi Tunnelling for DS Multiplayer</title>
<link rel='stylesheet' type='text/css' href='index.css'>
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<h1>dstunnel: Wifi Tunnelling for DS Multiplayer</h1>
<a href="http://www.akkit.org/">Stephen's Home</a><br><br>
For those of you who don't have a clue as to what it is, the goal of the dstunnel project is to enable multiplayer DS gaming over the internet.
It is designed to work with any wireless multiplayer DS game that exists, and should work with all future games too.
We just want to bring the fun of DS multiplayer games to everyone :)<br>
The project currently does require specific hardware in order to work, but it's possible in the near future it could be expanded to work with more common wireless devices.
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<h2>Current Status</h2>
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<tr><td><b>Core Components:</b></td></tr>
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<tr><td>Internet Network Code:</td> <td bgcolor=#9FFF80>80%</td></tr>
<tr><td>NiFi Network Code:</td> <td bgcolor=#80FF80>100%</td></tr>
<tr><td>Program Structure:</td> <td bgcolor=#8FFF80>90%</td></tr>
<tr><td>Total (Core Components):</td> <td bgcolor=#8FFF80>90%</td></tr>
<tr><td>Testing:</td> <td bgcolor=#FF8F80>10%</td></tr>
<tr><td><b>Additional Features/Projects:</b></td></tr>
<tr><td>Internet Pictochat Server:</td> <td bgcolor=#FF8080>0%</td></tr>
<tr><td>Internet WMB Server:</td> <td bgcolor=#FF8080>0%</td></tr>
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<h2>November 10, 2005: Beta Begins! (4am)</h2>
The preliminary DSTunnel application has been completed! Now begins the testing, to get an idea of what works and what doesn't.
Several bugs have been encountered so far, and the connection isn't exactly stable :) but we should be up and running soon.
<br><br>
<h2>November 3, 2005: Beta testers (4am)</h2>
Ok people, sorry, but contrary to popular belief, I really don't need any more beta testers.
The ones I have now (I'm up to 13) are very much hand-picked by me, they're people I know pretty well.<br>
I know you all are anxious to get your hands on this, but I don't expect it to be in beta for very long, and I will expect my beta testers to do some actual work.
Anyway, just be patient. I'll of course be updating this page with my progress fairly regularly when this project starts warming up (should be monday/tuesday of next week)<br>
Additionally, when I start really working on this project, it'll be posted to the main page, and, well, just be in general more widespread.
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<h2>November 2, 2005: Created project page. (3am)</h2>
Hello, and welcome to my new project page!
dstunnel will be an application that will allow you to connect multiple DSes over the internet to play multiplayer games, provided each player has a compatible wifi card and drivers.
(Presently only the RAlink RT2560 cards are supported, via firefly's driver - More cards are planned to be supported eventually, though!)
The project is planned to go into beta in about a week, perhaps less, and my 9 lucky beta testers will have the priviledge of playing normal DS multiplayer games over the internet!
(Of course, I'm sure it won't work initially, so they'll also get to have lots of fun testing it when it *doesn't* work, too :)<br>
All fun aside, watch this space for more details on how the program is shaping up, and when it'll be released to the public.
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#60613 - Alec - Sat Nov 12, 2005 7:18 pm
I meant the source of the mainpage to figure out the puzzle...
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<html lang='en'>
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<META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1">
<title>akkit.org/misc - Stephen's Odds and Ends</title>
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<h1>Misc: Odds and Ends</h1>
<a href="http://www.akkit.org/">Stephen's Home</a> | Page 1
<br><br><br>
<h2>November 2, 2005: New subsite...</h2>
Well, I added a new section to my site. I'm not linking it though, see if you can figure out where it is ;)<br>
<table border=0><tr>
<td>try... www.akkit.org/</td>
<td><img src="http://www.akkit.org/favicon.ico" width="80" height="80" alt="Something you play with"></td>
<td><img src="http://www.akkit.org/sgstair/img/tunnel.png" width="120" height="80" alt="Something you drive through"></td>
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(Firefox users are screwed, for some reason the first image doesn't display properly.)<br>
(I'm really making this too easy though, so not like it matters)
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#60618 - Dark Knight ez - Sat Nov 12, 2005 11:47 pm
Or you could just hover over the pictures to view that text. :p
#60619 - Sebbo - Sat Nov 12, 2005 11:54 pm
that doesn't work in firefox tho...there's something strange and mucked up with the alt tags...right click and go to properties will tell u tho
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#60626 - tepples - Sun Nov 13, 2005 2:25 am
| Sebbo wrote: |
| that doesn't work in firefox tho...there's something strange and mucked up with the alt tags |
When you hover over or focus an element, an HTML renderer is supposed to display the title, not the alt. The alt is there to replace images that are not loaded. Now if sgstair would use code like the following, everything would be fine in both IEEE!, Firefox, Opera, and everything else that's reasonably modern:
| Code: |
| <img src="..." title="ds" alt="ds"><img src="..." title="tunnel" alt="tunnel"> |
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#60630 - PhoenixSoft - Sun Nov 13, 2005 2:56 am
#60643 - sgstair - Sun Nov 13, 2005 6:01 am
tepples, yes you'd be correct... but the alt tags were put in in the first place because the .ico wasn't rendering in my version of firefox for whatever reason... you're supposed to be able to get it without them :P
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#60648 - Darkwind_776 - Sun Nov 13, 2005 7:14 am
Now you've ruined it for the ones that haven't gotten it yet. All two of them
#60653 - tssf - Sun Nov 13, 2005 10:01 am
| tepples wrote: |
| Sebbo wrote: | | that doesn't work in firefox tho...there's something strange and mucked up with the alt tags |
When you hover over or focus an element, an HTML renderer is supposed to display the title, not the alt. The alt is there to replace images that are not loaded. Now if sgstair would use code like the following, everything would be fine in both IEEE!, Firefox, Opera, and everything else that's reasonably modern:
| Code: | | <img src="..." title="ds" alt="ds"><img src="..." title="tunnel" alt="tunnel"> |
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Oddly enough, the DS icon shows fine in my Mozilla Deer Park Alpha 2 (which is just a beta of firefox)
I was thinking it didn't show mainly because of the fact that it's an .ICO file rather than a standard picture file.
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#60740 - caitsith2 - Mon Nov 14, 2005 7:37 am
| Darkwind_776 wrote: |
| PhoenixSoft wrote: | | {cough} http://akkit.org/ [Something you play with] [Something you drive through] {cough} |
Now you've ruined it for the ones that haven't gotten it yet. All two of them |
Didn't ruin it for me. I cracked that riddle before reading through this topic.
#60748 - El Hobito - Mon Nov 14, 2005 1:45 pm
i never had a problem seeing it in firefox and it was obvious even without the alt tags
#60776 - Dudu.exe - Mon Nov 14, 2005 7:04 pm
| Sebbo wrote: |
| that doesn't work in firefox tho...there's something strange and mucked up with the alt tags...right click and go to properties will tell u tho |
Becouse in WC3 Rules for HTML ALT is not for show like tooltips.. Tittle has to do this..
Alt is a Substitute if the image cant be loaded..
so... Internet Explorer is wrong not Firefox!
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#60778 - sgstair - Mon Nov 14, 2005 7:21 pm
Dudu, please note the following:
in the W3C specification for HTML 4.01, it says:
"This specification does not define how conforming user agents handle general error conditions, including how user agents behave when they encounter elements, attributes, attribute values, or entities not specified in this document."
in an IMG tag, the alt attribute is considered required, for accessability reasons (I don't always implement it on my site tho)
However, the title tag is not considered to be required, and what is done with it is left up to the implementor.
Technically, neither is wrong, because HTML 4.01 does not specify what must be done when an element (in this case title) does not exist.
Using the alt as a tooltip is a perfectly acceptable response to not having a title attribute.
So, please don't state definitive information on things you don't know anything about.
-Stephen
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#60803 - Balmung - Mon Nov 14, 2005 11:26 pm
I think the Topic of this Thread is DS Tunneling... but all what I must read in the last Postings here is about HTML... Please comes back on Topic.
I hope DS Tunneling works in the End correctly, many DS Games has an NiFi Multiplayer Mode and I don't know other DS Users here in my Town, so that can bring me much more fun.
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