#62302 - gladius - Tue Nov 29, 2005 8:03 am
snesds has been updated pretty recently, it's just not on loopy's page :).
http://pocketspc.pocketheaven.com/snesds11272005.zip.
#62309 - tssf - Tue Nov 29, 2005 12:09 pm
Yeah, I found that out when I was looking at this UK NDS homebrewn news site. It was pretty fun to read about, but I'm not exactly sure how to get it to work. Is there a specific method? Right now I'm using the bins archive from loopy's site, and modified the BAT file to use snesds.bin instead of arm9.bin. Is that how?
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#62339 - gladius - Tue Nov 29, 2005 7:53 pm
Wifi support is broken for now, although it should be fixed soon. Use it by putting the .bin in the same directory as snesds.exe and then run as normal.
#62341 - tssf - Tue Nov 29, 2005 8:30 pm
Assuming of course you have something that runs .ds.gba :P My poor GBAMP.
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#62361 - tepples - Wed Nov 30, 2005 12:43 am
Which homebrew ROMs for Super NES are you trying to run?
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#62372 - tssf - Wed Nov 30, 2005 8:19 am
Actually, I'm trying to run SNES games that I actually own. (if you would like proof, ask for it and I will gladly provide you with it) So, trying to get smart with me and try to "catch" me on a piracy issue here probably won't work. :)
EDIT: The game in question is Final Fantasy 2 if you must know, by the way.
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#62374 - Empyrean - Wed Nov 30, 2005 9:04 am
Regardless of whether you own it or not, tssf, unless YOU yourself backed it up for the SOLE purpose of ensuring that if/when your original copy is destroyed, you would have a copy (the clause does not grant you permission to use the backup INSTEAD of the original, mind you.) Nintendo's policy on piracy is quite clear on the subject of ROMs.
Nintendo's Policy
Anyway, I'm not going to argue this, since you can't really blame ANYONE for getting FF4 / 5 / 6 / Chrono Trigger for the SNES. It's only natural. They're amazing games!
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#62375 - tssf - Wed Nov 30, 2005 9:13 am
You know, those are technicalities. Of course I didn't back it up personally. And besides, I'm sure the creators of these emulators didn't either. I'm also sure that everyone on this whole entire forum has tried a rom at least once that they did not back up themselves.
So if this is going to be a "let's gang up on the guy who openly admits he plays ROMs of games he owns!" then fine, I'm done with it. This topic is getting out of hand, anyway. It's off topic. Get back on it please.
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#62462 - octopusfluff - Thu Dec 01, 2005 5:33 am
| Empyrean wrote: |
| Nintendo's policy on piracy is quite clear on the subject of ROMs. |
Nintendo's policy, while sometimes interesting, is less relevant than the copyright laws of the nation in which you live. Particularly since many elements of Nintendo's policy on piracy are intentional mistruths, particularly as they describe game copiers as illegal (they are not, they simply have illegal uses, similar to VCRs and DVD burners), and attempt to represent emulators themselves as illegal (although they manage to avoid directly stating that in the current version of their policy).
In the United States, a copy of a ROM is only legal if you did it yourself for backup purposes.
The DC Emulation forums have a decently researched article that summarizes this and similar issues fairly well, although it'd be nice if they were clearer on their sources. (Fortunately, this information is verfiable in the DMCA)
http://www.dcemulation.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=71423
If one is going to bandy about comments about what is legal and what's not, one must be careful whom one cites. Nintendo has a vested interest in representing certain technologies as illegal.
#62465 - tepples - Thu Dec 01, 2005 5:53 am
| octopusfluff wrote: |
| Nintendo's policy, while sometimes interesting, is less relevant than the copyright laws of the nation in which you live. |
Only until Nintendo starts putting EULA stickers on game packaging: "By purchasing this game you agree to the terms and conditions presented at www.nintendo.com/eula". Then, Nintendo or a licensed publisher can add restrictions to the sale that go beyond copyright's all rights reserved.
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#62468 - Empyrean - Thu Dec 01, 2005 6:36 am
Hey, I'm cool with ROM emulation! I, myself, am not innocent of the crime, after all, who the heck can actually afford ALL the games he/she wants? I'm not ganging up on you, man... it's just your other post made it sound like owning the original cart alleviates the wrongness of the act. I was just making an observation.
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#62474 - Xtreme - Thu Dec 01, 2005 9:15 am
Finnish ppl can forget those EULA, etc stuffs.
Here in Finland ppl can do what ever they want for stuff they own.
Future: New laws are comming here too, "cracking" will be illegal starting 1.1.2006 and that sucks. Decrypting your own DVD to HDD will be illegal as it is cracking after all, OMG. :( Also ppl can't make MP3's from their own music CD's. Sony has that virus/trojan stuff in their music CD's. That makes me think that it is safer to get the music from somewhere else than buying for CD's (buying MP3's is more safer). Ohh, I almost forget that copyrighted music CD is not a CD at all.. it's just music disc (they don't have permission from Philips to use that Compact Disc logo on copyrighted materials. Usually copyrighted discs are discs that has errors that prevents *haha* illegal copying *yeah right*).
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#62476 - octopusfluff - Thu Dec 01, 2005 9:37 am
| Xtreme wrote: |
Finnish ppl can forget those EULA, etc stuffs.
Here in Finland ppl can do what ever they want for stuff they own. |
As long as you still obey copyright. Finland law respects US copyright, last I checked. If you believe otherwise, I recommend checking with a lawyer before acting on that belief.
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| Ohh, I almost forget that copyrighted music CD is not a CD at all.. it's just music disc (they don't have permission from Philips to use that Compact Disc logo on copyrighted materials. Usually copyrighted discs are discs that has errors that prevents *haha* illegal copying *yeah right*). |
Do you mean copy *PROTECTED* discs? In the US and nations with similar laws, the moment data is affixed in a physical medium copyright exists. A quick once-over of Finnish law suggests copyright similarly exists immediately upon creation of a literary work.. Which the Finland Copyright Act kindly extends to music and programs. This means all CDs produced in such nations are copyrighted.
Some copy protection mechanisms do not violate the standards from Philips, so you are making a sweeping generalization that does not always apply. (Of course, the copy protection mechanisms that still count as a CD are often ineffective, but that doesn't change the fact that they're still a 'copy protected' compact disc).
#62619 - Darkflame - Sat Dec 03, 2005 12:23 am
EULA's arnt nearly as legaly binding as companys would like.
Heck, with PC stuff you only agree to the full Eula after you have purchased it, and if you actualy read all the Eula's youd spend your life just doing that ;)
Imo, the law has to be changed. Eula's should be summerised in one page, with perhapes. hyper-linked subclause's.
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Oh, as for CDs/Sony/Record Lables...get the hell away from them.
Its about time we bought our music as directly as possible from the artist.
Its going to take awhile to change, but change is needed.
#62645 - dXtr - Sat Dec 03, 2005 5:15 pm
don't know how it's in other countries but over here a EULA can't even hold in court b\c of the fact that you can't read it until after you've bought the product and taken it home and breaked the seal and put the disc in your computer.
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#62669 - tepples - Sun Dec 04, 2005 5:30 am
| dXtr wrote: |
| but over here a EULA can't even hold in court b\c of the fact that you can't read it until after you've bought the product |
That's why companies are starting to put prominent stickers on the retail packaging to inform the buyer that the purchase is subject to the EULA at a given URL.
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#62716 - dXtr - Sun Dec 04, 2005 11:05 pm
| tepples wrote: |
| dXtr wrote: | | but over here a EULA can't even hold in court b\c of the fact that you can't read it until after you've bought the product |
That's why companies are starting to put prominent stickers on the retail packaging to inform the buyer that the purchase is subject to the EULA at a given URL. |
ah. those tricky bastards ;)
still I wonder how well that would hold up in court...
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#62731 - octopusfluff - Mon Dec 05, 2005 4:09 am
| dXtr wrote: |
| tepples wrote: |
That's why companies are starting to put prominent stickers on the retail packaging to inform the buyer that the purchase is subject to the EULA at a given URL. |
still I wonder how well that would hold up in court... |
Depends on which court. Some have held them binding, others have not.
The prevailing opinion seems to be that if the consumer had the opportunity to learn the conditions prior to the completion of the sale, then they're binding, although some judges are of the opinion that the full agreement needs to be present at the time of transaction, instead of simply referred to.
#62752 - Darkflame - Mon Dec 05, 2005 12:56 pm
It also depends how reasonable the Eula is.
Common sense things will almost certainly stand up, but other things probably wont.
The court's know its unreasonable for everyone to read every Eula for everything they buy. Due to the (stupid) length of Eulas thats impossible.
Perhaps it would be a good idea for them to have to put it on the packaging? (not a link to it).
That would force them to write in more compact, layman's terms.