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Instructions:

1. Insert a DS game in NDS slot.
2. Turn up your DS and open Pictochat, room A.
3. Now remove the NDS cartridge from the NDS slot (don't worry, you can't do much harm).
4. Both screens should turn in the same color.

If the screens don't turn YELLOW or MAGENTA (and you're not using iQue DS), it is a safe bet that it's PassME1 and WiFiME compatible.

The color 'chart':

- NDS-V1: DS will freeze, when you remove the cart.
- NDS-V2: Grayish Blue (thanks, tepples)
- NDS-V3: Dark Green (Note! A silver DS bought in MK:DS bundle is most probably NOT installed with FW4!)
- NDS-V4: Yellow
- NDS-V5: Magenta
- iQue FW: Dark Green
- FM-V1-6: Dark Green

Thanks to everyone who helped me at this mini research.

Last edited by MaHe on Tue Feb 07, 2006 11:26 am; edited 9 times in total

Old (but likely the most recent old) firmware, Meteos (U): both screens turn grayish blue. It does not depend on the user's favorite color setting.
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Both green, and yes, I have FlashMe v5 installed.

FlashMe V5 installed here, and I get green like you.

How did you ever find this? By disassembling the FW ROM? And I'm also wondering why there would be a difference in colour with different firmware versions.

Actually, it was kinda stupid - I was simply playing with different DS units and trying to find differences when something "unexpected" happens. :)

I'm happy, that I at least made one small contribution to DSDev. :)

P.S.: Sorry for grammar/spelling mistakes, english isn't my native language.

Both screens green on both my Flashmed V5 Ds's.
One is from Japan (white) the other from america (silver launch).
Both have different user color settings.
Congratulations Mahe it appears you may have found the way for anyone to tell what passme they need.

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Also they go green if you remove the thing in the GBA slot however re-inserting the GBA slot reboots the DS. Re-inserting the DS cart doesn't restart it.
I tried it with a GBAMP, GBA commercial game and a flash cart all give green screens.
I tried different pictochat rooms and still got green screens.
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I don't get restarts on GBA reinserts (bluish gray).
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The GBA cartridge method isn't really reliable, so use NDS cart instead (However I don't know if it works with PassME).

:)

MaHe wrote:

The color 'chart':

- FW1: DS will freeze, when you remove the cart.
- FW2: Grayish Blue (thanks, tepples)
- FW3: Dark Green (Note! A silver DS bought in MK:DS bundle is most probably NOT installed with FW4!)
- FW4: Yellow
- iQue FW: Dark Green
- FlashME: Dark Green

I have MK:DS bundle (silver) with official Nintendo firmware.
Screens goes Dark Green.
So I must have FW3 then, bummer.
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Last edited by Xtreme on Thu Jan 05, 2006 11:13 am; edited 1 time in total

I have original release DS, with original firmware, and when I click-out my DS cart while in pictochat room A, my DS just freezes. The screens just stay frozen on what you would see displayed in pictochat room A.

Sorry bud, but this method doesn't really work.

Note - This was using Animal Crossing WW, and Megaman zero 4 cart was in gba slot. I will try a different DS card, and remove the MMZ4 cart.

Edit 2 - Nope, same thing.

Damn, there goes my "contribution"...

I'll test some more DS units, please close this thread until I figure out something better. Thanks for your help.

I'm pretty sure I'll think of some FW test. Stay tuned.

Mchart wrote:

I have original release DS, with original firmware, and when I click-out my DS cart while in pictochat room A, my DS just freezes. The screens just stay frozen on what you would see displayed in pictochat room A.

Sorry bud, but this method doesn't really work.

Note - This was using Animal Crossing WW, and Megaman zero 4 cart was in gba slot. I will try a different DS card, and remove the MMZ4 cart.

Edit 2 - Nope, same thing.

Same thing with me, I also have one of the very first firmwares.

AnalogMan wrote:

Mchart wrote:

I have original release DS, with original firmware, and when I click-out my DS cart while in pictochat room A, my DS just freezes. The screens just stay frozen on what you would see displayed in pictochat room A.

Sorry bud, but this method doesn't really work.

Note - This was using Animal Crossing WW, and Megaman zero 4 cart was in gba slot. I will try a different DS card, and remove the MMZ4 cart.

Edit 2 - Nope, same thing.

Same thing with me, I also have one of the very first firmwares.

Maybe it just freezes on the oldest FW DSs.

Xtreme, what color DS do you have?

MaHe wrote:

AnalogMan wrote:

Mchart wrote:

I have original release DS, with original firmware, and when I click-out my DS cart while in pictochat room A, my DS just freezes. The screens just stay frozen on what you would see displayed in pictochat room A.

Sorry bud, but this method doesn't really work.

Note - This was using Animal Crossing WW, and Megaman zero 4 cart was in gba slot. I will try a different DS card, and remove the MMZ4 cart.

Edit 2 - Nope, same thing.

Same thing with me, I also have one of the very first firmwares.

Maybe it just freezes on the oldest FW DSs.

Xtreme, what color DS do you have?

That could be. Find some more people that have the original release DS's, and see what happens.

Mine used to be an original released DS, but it's got flashmev5 on it now. ;O

My screens goes dark green on flashmev.5.0.

Too bad this method doesn't seem as trustworthy anymore. :(
Anyway, I will try to hunt down this pal of mine that has an untouched original release DS on him next week.

MaHe wrote:

Xtreme, what color DS do you have?

Silver. I bought it at the time when Mario Kart came out (MK:DS bundle).

Btw. How is the new FlashMe V6 working guys?
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japanese launch DS with Mario Kart (EU/AU) just freezes the DS (haven't installed FlashME yet)
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Xtreme wrote:

MaHe wrote:

Xtreme, what color DS do you have?

Silver. I bought it at the time when Mario Kart came out.

Btw. How is the new FlashMe V6 working guys?

V6 is out?

Sigvard wrote:

V6 is out?

http://forum.gbadev.org/viewtopic.php?p=65313#65313

m2pt5 wrote:

Sigvard wrote:

V6 is out?

http://forum.gbadev.org/viewtopic.php?p=65313#65313

Danke!

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Just to add to the results, I tried it with my FlashMe V5 DS, and got a green screen. I got a friend of mine to try it with his Blue DS (Mario 64 bundle), and he got green as well. Seems consistent with the results other people have posted.

Alright, I just upgraded to FlashMe v6 (my first FlashMe). It reported my Original Firmware as v1. And it did hang. Now, with FlashMe v6 when I perform this trick, I, too, get dark green screens.

Awesome. I just bought a ds, on 12/28/2005, and just tested this method. green screens. I do plan on using this ds for development, and haven't got the means to install flashme yet, so the firmware remains unmodified. (other than what MKDS did.)

I'm pretty sure MK:DS bundled silver DS has FW3 preinstalled.

There is quite a lot of reports of people that used PassME1 or WiFiME on a silver "MK" ds to run homebrew.

MaHe wrote:

I'm pretty sure MK:DS bundled silver DS has FW3 preinstalled.

I think I had a counterexample to that, a silver MKDS-bundle DS bought in Germany last week that didn't work with Wifime. Unfortunately I exchanged it the same day because of multiple stuck pixels, so I don't know what color it would have shown with this test. The new one is certainly V4, but it came from a non-bundled silver pack.

That's weird. Looks like there are different 'editions' of bundles...
I'll do some investigation.

ya, I think my DS has the original frimware. My DS froze when i took out a DS game. I tried different ones too.
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Well congratulations mahe, looks like the method works. Your dream of contributing something has come true.

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FlashMe v5: green
New pink DS (Nintendogs bundle): yellow

Nice finding!

Mchart wrote:

Well congratulations mahe, looks like the method works. Your dream of contributing something has come true.

:rofl:

Still, I'd rather CODE something useful :D

MaHe wrote:

Mchart wrote:

Well congratulations mahe, looks like the method works. Your dream of contributing something has come true.

:rofl:

Still, I'd rather CODE something useful :D

Hey man, its better then me. All I have is some crappy code for a GBA version of Dope Wars i'm working on.

I think this is really important. Now we can tell all those who have a new DS whether they need PassMe 1 or 2. Before now we've just had to put up with telling everyone to get a PassMe2.

This should end up in every homebrew DS guide.

Mine is a silver DS bought with the MK bundle - not done anything with it yet apart from play the odd game :).

Followed the instructions and both screens went blank, with what I suppose was a bit of a greenish tinge (though it's difficult to tell - it was only slightly more coloured than if the DS was off) - does this sound right? I've only just bought the DS and was looking to get a passme or variant but don't know which to get so this is obviously important to get right so I don't waste money on a passme 1.

Cheers.

If it's any color but yellow, and it's not an iQue DS, you shouls be fine with a 1-series Pass device.

I've tested around:
my flashme v6: green
friends flashme v5: green
friends red mkds bundle: yellow [new f/w :( ]

I'm just thinking.. Maybe bigN will release later a FW5 that fixes the bug that PassMe2 uses? What do we do then? Is there any other methods left than modding your DS?

Does anyone know if new firmwares fixes any other bugs than the ones (holes) that PassMe uses?
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PPFlash will ALWAYS be an option, though it's rather risky.
Check out tepples' site, there are enough ideas to keep FW-crackers busy.

If someone makes a WifiMe2 we would have a general method of launching regardless of the firmware.

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Strange. I've received several reports (although they're in minority) of black screens being a result of this check. Weird.

MaHe wrote:

Strange. I've received several reports (although they're in minority) of black screens being a result of this check. Weird.

Any difference if GBA cart is in DS while testing?
Any difference what NDS game card is used?
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And does the black screen happen three times in a row? I'm guessing that it might give different results if you happen to "do the PSP" during draw or during vblank. Or if all these DS units were purchased during the holiday season, perhaps there's a v5.
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Heya guys,
I've got a UK DS here that I bought second hand, it was in a metroid demo bundle so I assume it was an original UK release.

Screens turn the dark blue colour, I will be getting a NeoFlash MK2 in a few weeks so will update then. (I assume I will only need the MK2, an original DS game, and an SD-card to get started)

A friend of mine has tested his UK Blue Nintendogs bundle and it produces the yellow screens.

One thing i'd like to mention that might be important to you guys. I've noticed that on some machines when you boot up and the health warning screen is shown, there is no nintendo logo below 'nintendoDS' on the top screen.

Has anyone else noticed this? Could people please post as regards to whether their DS has this?

I apologise in advance if this has been covered already, cheers
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Mine has the nintendo logo. I have a fairly recent DS too.

MadDawgX wrote:

Mine has the nintendo logo. I have a fairly recent DS too.

Thanks for checking MadDawgX, Is your DS a UK/EUR/US/JAP model? Was it in a bundle?

Rat

tepples wrote:

Or if all these DS units were purchased during the holiday season, perhaps there's a v5.

As the matter of fact - they were, although they were lying on shelves for some weeks now (NDS is really a best-seller in my country :( )

Xtreme wrote:

I'm just thinking.. Maybe bigN will release later a FW5 that fixes the bug that PassMe2 uses? What do we do then? Is there any other methods left than modding your DS?

Does anyone know if new firmwares fixes any other bugs than the ones (holes) that PassMe uses?

The only thing nintendo can do to fix the passme2 bug, is to range check the swi functions, or have a 1KByte bios swi jump table, in the arm7 bios. Since this would involve making a new mask/die for the ds cpu, this is very unlikely to happen anytime soon.

It's not entirely unheard of, as Micro$oft changed GPU dies in the middle of the Xbox life cycle. Still, Nin?endo probably isn't inclined to go to such an expense given that the GBA SP 2 and Game Boy micro still work with GBA flash carts. But even if Niиtendo does manage to block PassMe2, there are still all sorts of possibilities to be explored, such as exploiting bugs in D- and F-rarity games.
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just got a refurbished ds back from nintendo in exchange for my ds that had some warranty issues. The new one is a silver DS that gives me a yellow screen of death on either ds or gba removal. It does have nintendo logo on startup. Mine seemed absolutely brand new so I don't know think that it says anything about whether they update the bios on "refurbished" ds's.

Hrmm I find it odd that i've only seen a few consoles with no Nintendo logo at startup. I'll try and dig up some serial numbers when I get back to the shop I work in.
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I just noflashme'd my DS (I need to send it in AGAIN for repairs... top screen went gray for no reason and stuck that way) and I did this method and the bottom screen turned yellow (the top would've too, had it not been messed up.)

It was a serviced model. Let's see which one I'll get when I turn this one in.
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can FW3 use wifime?

also...

my ds was preowned when i bought it in early september, but its an NU900, meaning (from what i heard) that it was refurbished at some point, but not when i bought it, so these are the stages of my ds's ownership that i'm thinking its been in

1. purchased new
2. sold to some store, which sent it to nintendo to be refurbished
3. someone bought the refurbished nintendo ds
4. the person sold the refurbished ds
5. the store (ebgames in this case) didn't have it sent into nintendo
6. i bought it

When i did this test, i got both dark green screens, meaning its FW3....but is it possible that it's not FW3 since its refurbished?

quadomatic wrote:

can FW3 use wifime?

Yes.

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When i did this test, i got both dark green screens, meaning its FW3....but is it possible that it's not FW3 since its refurbished?

If it's green, and it's not an iQue, then it's not v4.
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quadomatic wrote:

can FW3 use wifime?

Only FW4 and iQue DS can't use WiFiMe.

Does anybody know if the silver ds+mario kart bundles in UK are old version?

I'd be glad to hear any advise on finding an old version DS. Thank you.

Some models are, some aren't.
Let's say there's a 40% chance to get a old FW DS.

EDIT: You may ask the shop assistant if he allows to to perform the test. Some are nice enough to actually allow it ;)

The bad thing is that i'm buying it online... importing.

I bought a Mario Kart DS pak (Netherlands) with Silver DS and it turns green when performing the test...

Well, I got rid of the top-screen grey defective DS and bought one from Wal-Mart today. It's a silver, non-Metroid-demo-containing, Nintendo-logo containing, dark-blue-Pictochat-screen-turning model. It starts with NU416.
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Empyrean wrote:

dark-blue-Pictochat-screen-turning model

Cool, that would be v2 and just a PassMe is needed.

But you probably knew that.
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On my screen nothing happens, it just freezes the screen and that's it. I have a silver ds that I got close to when it first came out.

NoComply wrote:

On my screen nothing happens, it just freezes the screen and that's it. I have a silver ds that I got close to when it first came out.

MaHe wrote:

- FW1: DS will freeze, when you remove the cart.

It's in the first post.
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I bought a DS + Mario Kart Bundle in Australia the day it came out and my screen turns yellow.

Nintendo logo only shows up when there's a game inserted.
The version-color also shows up very shortly when closing the lid (or holding a magnet near the sensor).

darkfader, you are a genious :)

Glad to say that the passme I've just bought works fine in my DS. Thanks a lot giving me the assurance I needed to order it :)

Just bought a silver ds bundled with mario kart from UK and it's FW3.

Hmmm

Think there is a new firmware out there...

Just bought a friend a DS for his birthday and well, it went magenta on the test and flashme told me that it doesn't know what the firmware is.

This was a recent Japanese model.

Wow ... I'll add that on the list ... :/
Does PassME2 work (if you've got one, that is ... )?

I'm guessing this could be whats in DS-Lite too when it comes.. FW5.
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MaHe wrote:

Does PassME2 work?

rezen wrote:

flashme told me that it doesn't know what the firmware is.

That's good news. Looks like Ninty hasn't blocked the current methods.
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Don't you people find it weird that nintendo created a new firmware (FW5) that still allows wifime and passme1 AFTER the creation of a firmware that doesnt (FW4)?

wtf is wrong with that picture...

He said PassMe2, so I imagine older hacks are still blocked.

Rezen didn't say if he used a PassMe or PassMe2.

MaHe asked if PassMe2 worked (if he had one) and CubeGuy deduced he used PassMe2.

But Rezen never said otherwise.

Rain wrote:

CubeGuy deduced he used PassMe2.

If any current ____Me method works on it, which he had to have used to run FlashMe, PassMe2 will work regardless.
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Sorry for the late reply...

Used a passkey2 to get it booting... it would not boot flashme from my GBA card (copied over straight from the site) but did so from an M3 and the program reported an unknown firmware...

Sorry, it was ordered as a Japanese model but seems to be a HK model instead. Black DS with NRH15xxxxxx serial...

BTW, what does wifime do with v4 firmware?? i tried it on this machine and it makes a fake "LOADING GAME DATA..." screen

So is it possible to update FW5 (magenta) DS with Passme 1 or 2 ?
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I guess so since it runs on the M3m but I will not try it since its not my DS... I guess we are waiting for someone to offer theirs for flashing...

Is there anything else that can be done with this machine?

If you can, dump the firmware from that machine, and provide it to loopy.

Xtreme wrote:

So is it possible to update FW5 (purple) DS with Passme 1 or 2 ?

I have just got a new ds and this has the Magenta screens when checking the firmware version.
I am successfully using passme2 . ~When I went to install flashme I had the WARNING message that the firmware was not recognised so I did not continue.

This was a ds bought in the UK as a nintendogs bundle(blue)

bb

bb wrote:

Xtreme wrote:

So is it possible to update FW5 (magenta) DS with Passme 1 or 2 ?

I have just got a new ds and this has the Magenta screens when checking the firmware version.
I am successfully using passme2 . ~When I went to install flashme I had the WARNING message that the firmware was not recognised so I did not continue.

This was a ds bought in the UK as a nintendogs bundle(blue)

bb

Can you dump it and send it to loopy?
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Can you dump it and send it to loopy?[/quote]

How do I do that?
Love to help but but im a noob im afraid.
Eager to learn

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If you're using GBAmp, M3 or SuperCard - this will dump it just fine :)
http://darkfader.net/ds/files/fwdumper.nds

EDIT: Sorry, BIOS is not same as firmware in DS.. I misunderstood. Links/texts removed.
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Xtreme wrote:

Nintendo DS BIOS Dumper (6. Feb, 2006)

Flubba has released a NDS bios dumper, credits must go to Loopy, Costis, CaithSith & Martin Korth for finding the hole/code example to dump the ARM7 bios.

Download here

That dumps the ARM9 and ARM7 BIOS..ses of the DS...what we're talking about here is the firmware. Darkfader made that CF dumper mentioned above, and also Natrium made one that dumps into SRAM, available here: http://www.natrium42.com/blog/?p=20

It's a bit more of a pain in the butt to use (as you need to dump it in chunks so it'll fit into GBA SRAM) but it works. :)
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The 9th Sage wrote:

That dumps the ARM9 and ARM7 BIOS..ses of the DS...what we're talking about here is the firmware. Darkfader made that CF dumper mentioned above, and also Natrium made one that dumps into SRAM

Oh, sorry, my bad. I didn't know DS firmware and bios were different.
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Hi guys,

I just got a pink DS for my girlfriend and it too is v5 (turns magenta). I tried the firmware dumper but it shows an error after attempting to write the file (there's over 100mb on the SD card left so its not lack of space).

I'll be glad to help you out in the hope I can get this thing flashed. I'm using a superpass 2 and supercard sd.

The 9th Sage wrote:

That dumps the ARM9 and ARM7 BIOS..ses of the DS...what we're talking about here is the firmware. Darkfader made that CF dumper mentioned above, and also Natrium made one that dumps into SRAM, available here: http://www.natrium42.com/blog/?p=20

It's a bit more of a pain in the butt to use (as you need to dump it in chunks so it'll fit into GBA SRAM) but it works. :)

Ok now I realised because I have an SD card I need to use the latter... how does it work? How do I access the dumps?

Just to confirm, I went for it and flashed my v5 (magenta colour check). Worked fine.

You will get four SRAM files.

Use this command: copy /b a+b+c+d nds-v5-firmware.bin

Where A B C D are the four files you got :)

eg.

copy /b sram1.sav+sram2.sav+sram3.sav+sram4.sav nds-v5.bin

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olimar wrote:

Of course, you should do that BEFORE you use flashme. I think it's too late now :)

Quote:

Just to confirm, I went for it and flashed my v5 (magenta colour check). Worked fine.

I did try it, it didn't work right with the Supercard, even with natrium's helps, the checksums came out wrong. So I'll leave the firmware dumping to someone with a better cart, and so I thought I'd be the guinea pig flasher :)

If need be, I can try this on sunday.

If everything works, who do I pass this onto?

Pass it on to olimar/loopy.
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When i do as introduction my DS sreen to be yellow color.which FW FOR SURE?OR MY FW IS IQUE?can i use passme1 or do i use passme 2? but my fried of mind use passsme1 but his DS close n never open again. May his DS broken. How i do if it's close too? Anyone can help plz?

i've got flashme v6 and my color is not dark green... it just freezes... if you need any info about this (i have no idea what) just pm or msn me... thanx -Leif902

I looked through this thread and noticed that no one had the same problem as me.
I bought my Silver DS Nov. 2005. I am from Ireland, although the DS is probably identical to a British/European model.
I opened Pictochat room 1 while Mario64 DS was inserted. I ejected the cartridge, and my DS switched off.

Anyone have any ideas? I really need to know which Passme to buy.

was the ds closed when you ejected your card?

Nope...

Try ejecting your GBA cart instead, if you have one. The colour should also flash very briefly when going into sleep mode.

I wonder what color the DS Lite is when we do this?
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I am really sorry for wasting your time. I checked it again last night, and noticed that it turned dark green.
The reason that I thought it went blank was that I previously tested it in the daytime, while there was a lot of light. It looked as though it was blank.

So I guess I need a Passme1. I guess that i must have bought a DS that was laying on the shop's shelf for quite a while...

Umm, could somebody provide me the info about Lite's firmware? Thanks.

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Thanks. :>

So if the phat's firmware works on the lite, is there a chance that the lite's will run on the phat?
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olimar wrote:

There's not much to say about it. It's the same as a regular DS, except with brightness adjusting. Its "pictochat color" is purple, if you were wondering.

Ah, thanks. I was mostly just curious. :)
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i think there is a new firmware out, i`ve read on a few pages of firmawre V6, which turns the screens dark blue. My DS has been repaired by Nintendo and i got it back today. The Service-Man told me that they made an firmware-upgrade, and now my screens turn Dark Blue. I`ve made a picture of it (its not quite good but it should proof the color, and yes its a grey DS bought on the first day it came out in europe)

Click me :D

There is nothing more changed in the menu, its just that blue...
i dont have a passme so i cant test it out

and sorry for my bad english :P

Emil007 wrote:

sorry for my bad english :P

there is a saying on every forum...
every one that doesn't speak english as a primary laugage,
normaly does better at spelling and making sense then most people on this boards ...

so you Really don't have to say that...

but this might be a new firmware version...
weird...

i hope it isn't...
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1x SuperPass2
1x Supercard-CF
MoonShell skins

Emil007 wrote:

i think there is a new firmware out, i`ve read on a few pages of firmawre V6, which turns the screens dark blue. [...]
Click me :D

This is a much more saturated blue than v2 blue-gray.
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tepples wrote:

Emil007 wrote:

i think there is a new firmware out, i`ve read on a few pages of firmawre V6, which turns the screens dark blue. [...]
Click me :D

This is a much more saturated blue than v2 blue-gray.

so what do you think it is?
would nintendo need another firmware release?
do you think they could posible make it so you can't even play people on multiplay (30ft one)
if they have an illegeal copy?

that would be pushing the limits people will go to stop that tho :P
so i doubt that,
but what will have changed?
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2x NDS/L(FMv7-ORG:v4,FMv7-org:DSL)
1x GBAMP
2x 1gb (MicroDrive{typeII}&SanDisk{typeI})
1x SuperPass2
1x Supercard-CF
MoonShell skins

It could just be some edge-cases in touch screen handling in PictoChat, or more efficient downloading in DS Download Play, or the like. Not all changes to firmware are directed at anti-piracy or anti-homebrew efforts.
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i think my friends ds turned this new blue color, but i just assumed that it was v2...he bought his ds long before I did, so I'm not sure.

If you have homebrew capability, run FlashMe (no need to install it, just run it) and see if it recognizes your FW version. (If not, you should see if you can get a dump of the FW for Loopy/olimar.)
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the only thing i have to get software on my ds is wifime, i have no passme or gba-flasher, so there is sadly no way to get a firmware dump :-/
(and i know noone who have such things)

tepples wrote:

Emil007 wrote:

i think there is a new firmware out, i`ve read on a few pages of firmawre V6, which turns the screens dark blue. [...]
Click me :D

This is a much more saturated blue than v2 blue-gray.

Sorry if this bump is pretty much unrequired, I float around gbadev but decided to go out and buy a ds the other weekend (silver mario kart bundle)

This method with the nds (brought on 19th april 2006 in the uk) gave me a very deep blue, if not grey. I think its FW6, will look into it.

*edit1* On looking over the list again it might be FW2, but the thing is that the DS has been out over a year now and the bundle ds' still feature the old 2nd FW? a bit odd and also still confusing for me. Also adjusting the angle of the ds will result in blues and greys changing.

Nice method :)

And is there any way to find out which version of Flashme is install (for example my brother have is NDSL flash a month ago but he don't know which version of Flashme is on it)

Toyo wrote:

And is there any way to find out which version of Flashme is install (for example my brother have is NDSL flash a month ago but he don't know which version of Flashme is on it)

The FlashMe installer tells you which version you have installed.
DSLinux also tells you before you log in.

ok so if i understand what u say , i just have to start any flashme and see the current version of firmware and then i can shutdown the nds before starting any new firmware update ?

Yep. You're safe as long as you don't start the flashing process by pressing X B X B.
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