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Yep, it's the moment you've all been waiting for, ScummVM DS v0.5 is out!

Changes in this version:

* CD audio is supported using IMA-ADPCM compressed WAV files
* Direct file system support now works on the M3 and Supercard
* An on-screen keyboard to name saves
* Interact with the zoomed view by swapping the screens over with X
* Zoom in/out by holding L and pressing A or B
* Scroll the screen with the pen while holding L
* Improved the way the zoomed view follows the talking character
* Music support in FM TOWNS games
* Sound volume improved, and sound glitching fixed
* Left handed mode
* Help screen added
* D-pad controls in the front end
* Numerous other bug fixes

Please post if it doesn't work. Post if it works too, so I know if I've uploaded a dud or not.

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Thank you, almighty One!

The menu is excellent now.

I'll test some CD music once I get this card cleaned up...
Wait... never mind. Monkey Island 1 is using ogg. Ah well...

I have a little Scumm-related question:
Is there a utility anywhere to split a game's monster.sou file into chunks? I realize that such a task would be quite fiddly, but it's worth dreaming about. (Since a 512 MB CF card costs money).

Darkflame: Sam & Max runs slowly... just play it without voices and it should be fine. It's still a great game :) It's really weird how slow it is... Day of the Tentacle is a newer game, and it runs much faster.

About my problems with touch responsiveness: That only occured when I had the screen scaled down. Now that it's easier to move it around, I don't think I'll be bothered anymore :)

A suggestion: I'm not sure if this has been done or not because I haven't played with this version for very long... I think that when the top screen view focuses on a talking character, it should make sure to be able to see all of that character's caption.
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Last edited by Mr. Picklesworth on Tue Dec 20, 2005 11:31 pm; edited 1 time in total

Convert your Oggs to ADPCM WAV and you'll be fine. Cdex can do that easy.

I haven't noticed Sam & Max being much slower with voices than without. Perhaps it's something to do with the speed of the CF card in use?

I'm not sure there's a way to split the monster.sou file. I'm not sure anyone would have written a tool since this wouldn't be a problem on many other platforms.

And DOTT isn't newer, it's older.

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And DOTT isn't newer, it's older.

Woops, there I go again, messing up the flow of numbers.

Good thought about CF card speed. That would explain a lot.
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agentq wrote:

Yep, it's the moment you've all been waiting for, ScummVM DS v0.5 is out!

Changes in this version:

* CD audio is supported using IMA-ADPCM compressed WAV files
* Direct file system support now works on the M3 and Supercard

Please post if it doesn't work. Post if it works too, so I know if I've uploaded a dud or not.

http://scummvm.drunkencoders.com/

Is this ONLY for CF-cards?
I have a Supercard SD and of course it seems to not be working.

ScummVM DS 0.5 checks for CF reader and the ZIP.

Currently, there is no support for Supercard SD in chishm's FAT driver, so it won't work.

Fantastic!
*downloads*

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Darkflame: Sam & Max runs slowly... just play it without voices and it should be fine. It's still a great game :) It's really weird how slow it is... Day of the Tentacle is a newer game, and it runs much faster

nah, it works fine with sound 90%
Its out of sycn, but if you turn sub's off that dosnt mater really.

I was only complaing it crashed at two points if the sound was on. (World Of Fish + Bumpasville).

agentq wrote:

Currently, there is no support for Supercard SD in chishm's FAT driver, so it won't work.

Ok, thanx, maybe next time..

Wow sound quality though is great even at just 22khz mono (Monkey Island CD converted) =)

Fate of atlantis ( the only one talkie that fits on my CF ) is not playing the SFX only the music..

there is a setting to turn it on?
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If you have compressed speech it won't work. Your audio file should be called monster.sou and not monster.so3 or monster.sog

agentq wrote:

If you have compressed speech it won't work. Your audio file should be called monster.sou and not monster.so3 or monster.sog

i nede modified my version.. i use it in scummvc for windows.. and works dine!

Ps: mine is monster.sou!

but i will try to download another..
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Wow sound quality though is great even at just 22khz mono (Monkey Island CD converted) =)

Would you like to give a little how-to for dummies like me?

I have tracks 1 to 24 all converted to Wav, with Microsoft ADPCM at 22kHz Stereo. They all have the same name as their .ogg counterparts except for the file extension.

Running it through ScummVM on the PC does not return any error messages, but I do not hear any sound... there appears to be a tiny bit of something in the background, but it sounds nothing like my sound files...

So, how did you convert yours? Is there some kind of magical naming convention that I must follow, or did I do it completely wrong?
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They will have to be mono rather than stereo files. Also, Microsoft ADPCM is different to IMA ADPCM, and won't work. I wouldn't use ScummVM under Windows as a test, as I have written my own audio player for this which is entirely different to how it is done on Windows.

Once you have your mono files, just stick them in the folder with the game data and see what happens.

There is a brief walkthrough on the ScummVM DS website on how to convert the files using a free utility called Cdex.

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Wow sound quality though is great even at just 22khz mono (Monkey Island CD converted) =)

Would you like to give a little how-to for dummies like me?

Used CDex and ripped directly from my Monkey Island Madness CD too correct format specified by AgentQ in readme.

Not sure if tracknames is correct though since the PC version tracks starts at track1 not track2 as CDex names it (so manually name edit might be needed).

Can't actually test whats right or if it's working since ScummVM 0.5 don't work on Supercard SD yet.

Yay! Got it going with 44kHz mono. Thanks a lot :)

That's pretty nice sound!
I keep forgetting that the DS can pull that stuff off, now that my hand isn't blocking the (one single) speaker (with the quality of a telephone as it was).

I just noticed the lefty controls, too.
I got a bit used to the righty ones, so it will take some getting used to, but it's definietly better for left handed folk. An excellent selfless act!
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Just what I wanted for Christmas, thanks Agentq! :)

On my M3 I tested the following so far:

- Zak McKracken and the Alien Mindbenders (FM Towns version) = working great*
- Secret of Monkey Island (CD Version) = working great*
- Loom (CD Version) = works, though I think I screwed around with the audio track it just keeps going and going (no pauses or anything)*
- Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade (256 Colour Edition) = working great
- Day of the Tentacle = working great, occasional little black bars flicker in top screen, but has no material effect
- Sam n' Max = working great, even the fish cutscene

*Indicates that CD audio was converted to 44,100 Hz, 4-Bit, Mono IMA ADPCM .WAV [using Sony SoundForge]

Definitely made my season jolly, AgentQ! A heckuvalot more than any rosy-cheeked, fat, bearded German could!
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Last edited by Empyrean on Sat Dec 24, 2005 8:26 am; edited 1 time in total

You might want to change this line:

* Direct file system support now works on the M3 and Supercard

Half the userbase of Supercard (SD) cant use it.

The guys who fixed SC SD support in Moonshell, could you have a look at the 0.5 source code please? =)

Great update for all the CF users.

Sadly, I also wish there was some SD(M3) support.

Takenover83 wrote:

Sadly, I also wish there was some SD(M3) support.

Indeed, i wish it worked with the M3 SD :/. Then good times could commence playing DOTT :)

Moan, moan, moan.

Great work, agentq! My CF card is fast filling up here.

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Loom (CD Version) = works, though I think I screwed around with the audio track it just keeps going and going (no pauses or anything)*

I can confirm that.
It actually seems to skip to random-seeming points in the audio track whenever I enter a new place... it seems to stop when I enter some areas... quite erratic actually, but it's the same bits of audio every time.

Perhaps there is some kind of marker in the file that the format removes?
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Last edited by Mr. Picklesworth on Wed Dec 21, 2005 5:35 pm; edited 1 time in total

don't know if I missed this, but does the save feature work correctly on a supercard CF now? I'm really excited to try this out when I get home.

Yes, Supercard CF is fully supported. Talkie games, saves and CD audio will all work.

I will have to try out Loom CD, and see if there is a problem with the CD audio. Is it all one track? Perhaps it's just starting at the wrong place in the stream.

SD card is dependant on others who own one writing the driver for it.

edit for agentq: Yes, it's but one audio track.

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Perhaps there is some kind of marker in the file that the format removes?

I doubt that. I've fiddled around with the audio track on the Loom CD a while back, and by shifiting its position on the CD, incorrect audio was played (duh!), but for the same amount of time as was usual.

Conclusion: The game Loom has hardcoded the starting position of all the pieces of speech and such and also how long a piece needs to be played. Note that the starting position is taken from the start of the entire CD instead of from the start of the actual audio track (thus moving the audio track on the CD gave the results mentioned above).
This also means that there was no marker in the audio track itself to begin with, so there is none needed later on.

I don't know how ScummVM handles a ripped audio-track, but if it didn't change the determination of the starting position, it could be that you'd need to prepend the audio track with "nothing" worth exactly as much in bytes as the start of the Loom CD till the start of the audio track.

As said before: ScummVM still can't read from supercard SD (get "CF reader not found!" message. Makes sense since I don't have the CF version, but SD SHOULD work, no?)

Sorry, no, I should have made this clear. Only Supercard CF is supported at this time.

AgentQ, I want to marry you (aww, I am a male, forgot thath :( ).

Does Full Throttle work with this version?

Still no Full Throttle.

Two big sexy black screens.

Tried turning music off to no effect. Probably has to do with the massive number of cutscenes in the intro.
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It's unlikely that Full Throttle will ever work. When I tried it on an earlier version, it ran out of RAM way before showing even the first screen. Even if the extra RAM on the M3 or Supercard could be used, I think it would be very slow and a painful experience to play.

The same applies to The Dig I'm afraid.

The code to play these games was stripped out in v0.4 in order to free more RAM for the other games.

AgentQ, do you think you could use this?
http://www.pat.hi-ho.ne.jp/~sata68/nds/ndsiotest01.lzh
It has SC CF, M3(i think) and SC SD, i looked at the files and compared them with his current 0.5 source and i think he might be able to use them together. I tried to compile with the new changes but i couldnt get it to compile even without putting in the new changes so i eventually gave up. Maybe someone else will have more luck with this.

Yeah, it looks like someone has modified the fat driver to use SC SD. I'll take a look at getting that code building with ScummVM.

Can someone try the test app in the archive and make sure it works?

What exactly, would need to be done, to convert that Supercard SD code to be able to work on the M3 SD?

Is it even known yet, how to unlock/access the card on the M3 SD?

I have an M3 SD and was thinking of diving into the M3 SD FAT problem.
I used to be proficient at C/C++, but lately it's been Delphi mainly, so I'm a bit rusty. If anyone could help get me started or provide info?

I tried the testapp and i could run it and check files on my SC-SD card.

Downloading now...excellent work. Now I'll start playing DoTT again, I have kind of abandoned my GBAMP since I got an M3, since just about everything works on it, heh.
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agentq wrote:

It's unlikely that Full Throttle will ever work. When I tried it on an earlier version, it ran out of RAM way before showing even the first screen. Even if the extra RAM on the M3 or Supercard could be used, I think it would be very slow and a painful experience to play.

The same applies to The Dig I'm afraid.

The code to play these games was stripped out in v0.4 in order to free more RAM for the other games.

That sucks. Any way it could work if movies were skipped? I'd love to be able to play it :/
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I just downloaded version 0.5 The improvements and save support on Supercard CF is what I've been waiting for, good stuff!

Except, I can't get it to work unfortunately. I'm using a SuperCard CF. I'm trying both the monkey island games (using scummdata.zip that worked with previous versions of scummDS). When I boot it up on my DS I get to the scumm menu and I go to select the game and click 'choose' but it tells me that it can't find any game...it's really weird does anyone know what I can try? I made sure compression was off when making the .zip files. Also version 0.5 said 'CF reader found!' so it should work...

Opium wrote:

I just downloaded version 0.5 The improvements and save support on Supercard CF is what I've been waiting for, good stuff!

Except, I can't get it to work unfortunately. I'm using a SuperCard CF. I'm trying both the monkey island games (using scummdata.zip that worked with previous versions of scummDS). When I boot it up on my DS I get to the scumm menu and I go to select the game and click 'choose' but it tells me that it can't find any game...it's really weird does anyone know what I can try? I made sure compression was off when making the .zip files. Also version 0.5 said 'CF reader found!' so it should work...

you dont need the zip file ...
just place the game folder in your CF and open with scumm!
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Opium wrote:

I just downloaded version 0.5 The improvements and save support on Supercard CF is what I've been waiting for, good stuff!

Except, I can't get it to work unfortunately. I'm using a SuperCard CF. I'm trying both the monkey island games (using scummdata.zip that worked with previous versions of scummDS). When I boot it up on my DS I get to the scumm menu and I go to select the game and click 'choose' but it tells me that it can't find any game...it's really weird does anyone know what I can try? I made sure compression was off when making the .zip files. Also version 0.5 said 'CF reader found!' so it should work...

you dont need the zip file ...
just place the game folder in your CF and open with scumm!

I put the monkey1 folder on my CF card and also the ScummVMCode.ds.gba (renamed to .nds so it'll boot). I started it up but it keeps saying "Searching for ZIP archive. Not Found!"
So are you sure you don't need to zip up the contents of the game and use the builddata.bat file to create the game.gba.ds file you need to copy over??

The .ds.gba is the flashcart version - I think there's an .nds version in the download, which you should be using.
You shouldn't need to rename anything.

This is great :)

Works for me. (GBAMP+Moonshell+Flashme)

MAJOR improvement in Sam & Max sound sycning. Its now near flawless.

The typeing system is great for saves and such too :)

The only bug so far is...

Occasionaly the logging can swap the help/controlls menu putting it off the screen :-/

Man this looks awesome cant wait for the SD version, any news (ok I know its only been 2 days)? My C skills are more theoretical than practical heh, i did look at the scumm nds filesystem code but I dont really have enough skills to even start trying to get SD code in there.

I think 0.5 is broke, it didnt work on my M3 SD (using builddata.bat), where as 0.4 did work.

linus: It hasn't been two days, in fact it's barely been a day since Critial_Impact pointed out the SD FAT code. I had a look at it and it appears to be a modified version of an older version of the FAT driver. So it's gong to be a little more work than just rebuilding it.

Phonebone: Converting the SC SD FAT code to work on the M3 would probably just be a matter of knowing where the relevant registers are mapped into cart ROM space, and possibly an unlock code for it.

BTW, I love Delphi, it's great!

Takenover83: Does it say 'Found CF reader!' when it boots up? If it detects your SC SD as an SC CF, for example, we could be in trouble.

No I still get CF not found on 0.4 and 0.5

You're using the .ds.gba version, right? So it should be the same as running off a flashcart, and I've just burnt one just to check and it works fine. Does it find the zip file at all?

In 0.4 yes, in 0.5 no.

Im using a SC SD, in 0.4 it finds the zip file and 0.5 it finds the zip file, in 0.5 it doesnt find the card reader(im assuming the cf card)

Veg wrote:

The .ds.gba is the flashcart version - I think there's an .nds version in the download, which you should be using.
You shouldn't need to rename anything.

Okay I found that.

I copy over ScummVM.nds, put it in my root folder on the CF card. Then copy over the scumm games in different folders.

ScummVM.nds wont boot if I use Flashme, I just get a white screen. When using a passme it does boot but says "Found CF reader! Switching to conifguration scummvm.ini" then doesn't do anything else. I press buttons but it doesn't do anything. The bottom screen is just black.

Well, I don't think it'll boot unless it's called "_BOOT_MP.nds", or you're using a loader like MightyMax's, which I assumed you were.

So, either use a loader to select and boot ScummVM.nds, or rename it _BOOT_MP.nds.

Having just told you you shouldn't need to rename anything, I feel rather stupid.

im glad to see how my Swap sacreen ideia is WORKING amzing well

i loved the zoom.. the image looks very impressive.. do you use a filter or something?

I still having a little problem for conversation.. i allwais hit the wrong sentence..

i have a little ideia for Text selection

whrn you PRESS UP . and the Mouse iscon has no green button.. it makes like the mouse is on hover.. whould be nice if a button work as a click when it is in this position..

maybe DOWN button..

got the ideia??

we can press only when we sure the correct text is selected!

Ps: is i know i can ZOOM and select the text.. is anoing to navigate baqck to text after the Zoomed window focus the talking guys
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This is already implemented although you must use the left d-pad button. :) And you must hold your stylus on the screen :)

MaHe wrote:

This is already implemented although you must use the left d-pad button. :) And you must hold your stylus on the screen :)

i will try it later.. im at work now.. thanks..
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agentq wrote:

Phonebone: Converting the SC SD FAT code to work on the M3 would probably just be a matter of knowing where the relevant registers are mapped into cart ROM space, and possibly an unlock code for it.

BTW, I love Delphi, it's great!

Thanks. I figured as much after looking at the Supercard SD code.
I already mailed the M3 guys about releasing the necessary information.
So far, no response (not really expecting much though)

And yeah, Delphi's fine, but it also means I mostly get to work on database, server/client software and some services.

I've only developed administrative systems the last few years, but I have some GBA experience.

Edit: just got their response to my request:

Danny wrote:

Thanks for your infomation .
Due to we are very busy now .
We will improve it later .

Regards
Danny

Here's hoping it actually means something...

lol, am i the only weirdo who can't get scummvm ds to work on my m3 cf? i swear, .4 and .5 both dont work on my ds :( well they do... but then i select the curse of monkey island demo folder add the game.. press start and then bam two black screens,what in the heck am i doing wrong? i tried just copying scummvmds.nds ( it hink thats the file name, cant remember) over without the m3 software but i've also tried usign the m3 game manager thing to copy it over... no luck either way.

ah well, i could just imagine what its like and i'm sure its fantastic ! :) going to try a couple different games and hope they work.. oh well

Veg wrote:

Well, I don't think it'll boot unless it's called "_BOOT_MP.nds", or you're using a loader like MightyMax's, which I assumed you were.

So, either use a loader to select and boot ScummVM.nds, or rename it _BOOT_MP.nds.

Having just told you you shouldn't need to rename anything, I feel rather stupid.

it doesn't work. It does the same thing. "Found CF Reader! Switched to configuration scummvm.ini" then does nothing. The bottom screen is constantly black.

agentq (or anyone) do you have any solution? Here's what I do step by step:

1. Copy over a folder called 'monkey1' containing the Monkey Island 1 files (not zipped up).
2. Copy over ScummVM.nds into the root directory of my CF card.
3. Boot up my SuperCard in DS mode and run the ScummVM.nds
4. The top screen says "Found CF Reader! Switched to configuration scummvm.ini", nothing appears to happen. No button combination changes anything.
5. I check the CF card again with my CF reader, there is no scummvm.ini file on the CF card.

+6. I try renaming the ScummVM.nds file to _BOOT_MP.nds but the same thing happens.

I know this has been mentioned before, but I wonder if there's a way to make the touch-screen more accurate. I mean, everything works swimmingly, however I noticed when playing the fish-golf game in Sam n' Max, the flag markers were quite off from where I was selecting.

Though, naturally, this is a trivial matter, I just thought I'd mention it.

As far as I'm concerned, this version is the definitive must-own homebrew app for the DS. I throw praises in your general direction, AgentQ.

Wouldn't mind playing Flight of the Amazon Queen again or BASS or even one of the Broken Swords. As for Full Throttle and The Dig, well... one can only blame the limitations from Nintendo, and not any shortcomings from Agent.
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I have thought about putting a touch screen calibration step inside ScummVM. If the calibration in the bios is doing something we're unaware of, this should make the touch screen readings accurate. ScummVM could save these settings so they wouldn't need to be done on every boot.

The RAM limitations I'm seeing are probably not an oversight on Nintendo's part. On an official game, many game assets would be accessed directly from ROM, something not possible with ScummVM as it isn't written to support this. Most computers have a disk for assets and need to load everything into RAM.

For example, Doom ran fine on the GBA with only minor limitations, and the GBA has only 256Kb of RAM. The same game required 4Mb when it was on the PC.

Of course, on a CF card, things start to look very much like the PC and it would be impossible to use assets directly from the card anyway.

As for the other games, I've been working on BASS for a few days and it's looking very good. There was a nasty bug in the engine though that has been a big problem for me, but I think it's sorted.

Opium: I'm really confused as to why it doesn't work for you, especially since other people with the M3 say it's ok. It could be to do with the format of your card. I've only been using FAT16 here, so maybe you should try copying all your files off, formatting your card with FAT16, then putting them back.

Other than that, perhaps the M3 firmware version could be an issue?

agentq wrote:

As for the other games, I've been working on BASS for a few days and it's looking very good. There was a nasty bug in the engine though that has been a big problem for me, but I think it's sorted.

Nice. I bought BASS and never finished it... CD has been taunting me for years ^^

If you ever need a tester.... :)
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agentq wrote:

The RAM limitations I'm seeing are probably not an oversight on Nintendo's part. On an official game, many game assets would be accessed directly from ROM

Only on the GBA. Official DS cards are block devices, making them more like CF or SD than like GBA ROM; things have to be loaded into RAM first.
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Notes on latest version:

The amount of errors in Sam & Max has increased quite a lot.
Its still playable (sound syncing is much better), but the save screen crashs more often, and some areas seem to crash at random occasionaly.

Also, I am noticed, when it "crashs" now it dosnt freeze, but resets back to the Scumm game select menu.
Odd really, because theres no exit button to do this :D

The errors seem to all be "Out of Ram", and I am gueseing they have increased because the newer version of the program is slightly bigger.

Any way to make it smaller?
Maybe by loading certain parts of ScummDS only when needed? (eg, is the keyboard kept loaded?

I dont think much is in it, it seems to be just on the threshold.

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The amount of errors in Sam & Max has increased quite a lot.

This is quite interesting, as I'm playing the game now and have gone through from beginning till the point where I am (just about to go to Frog Stone) without a single crash. I never had to empty my inventory or turn sound of or anything. I just don't have the subs enabled (purely talkie). I wonder if anyone can comment on why crashes would be hit-or-miss?
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tepples: Sorry, my mistake. I don't know much about the official carts. But I did a lot of work on the GBA.

Darkflame: If you were to play Sam & Max a lot in one session, you would most likely see more errors as memory would become fragmented. The amount needed will vary quite a bit.

The resetting behaviour could be due to some reset code I put in but never got to work properly. Since the Scumm games cannot quit without a memory leak, and there is no way to properly reset the DS, I don't see a way to return to the game menu.

As loading code when needed is not really an option, I can only try to squeeze the runtime data a bit more. The keyboard data is only around 8Kb and so won't make any difference. I reckon it needs about 200-300Kb to work properly. There has got to be a way, but I haven't found anything I can sqeeze yet.

I do play it a lot in one session so that may be it. (all my new have been past frog rock, though).

Either way, I'll have a play tonight and try to create save games near crash points.

I still find it odd. I played and finished the game in three sessions (two long [with 'sleep'], one short)... no error. No crash. Though the Yeti party has major slowdown. Nothing unplayable, though.

Also, I was in Conroy Bumpus' house when he was singing with Trixie and Bruno, and there was voice and all, but when it came to the song, the subs came on and no talkies. I don't recall whether there WAS a recorded version of the song or not. Anyone?

So far, the only bugs I've seen are infrequent tiny black rectangular bars in DoTT and slowdown in Sam n' Max. I'm on M3's version e13, by the way. I wonder if that makes a difference.
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I remember having that problem with the original game on the PC... not sure what causes it (I know the song is on the CD as an audio track, but does the game read it from there as such? If so, I guess you'd need to rip it, save it as an IMA ADPCM and call it track1.wav)

Anyway, you can hear it on the Lucasarts Soundtracks site... they call it "Childhood in Brighton".

a crosshair in HOVER mode and in TOUCH whould be amazing...

so we can press the right spot even if Touch screen inaccuracy
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*Newbie Alert*

Apologies in advance for using this thread to ask a few newb-questions, but I didn't think they warranted a new thread. I'm a total beginner to all things homebrew, but I'm so impressed/excited at the prospect of being able to play LucasArts games on my DS that I'm just about to buy all the required stuff. Is this everything I need?:

GBA Movie Player
Integral CompactFlash Card 64MB
PassMe2
NintendoDS (UK silver with MarioKart)

Or do I have to buy a GBA flash advance card in addition to the above (they're quite expensive)? Sorry again for abusing the thread in such a selfish way! Super-grateful for any helpful advice. Thanks!

I have a SuperCard CF and I am also having problems with the talkie version of DOTT. I was able to get the disk version of DOTT working on 0.4 but now that I have 0.5 I basically did the same thing (put the TENTACLE files and MONSTER.SOU file in a non-compressed zip and ran it through builddata).

I then have to rename the output file to a .nds extension. Then I stick it on the card and launch it fromt he menu, and scumm menu comes up and says that the CF is found, but when I try to add a game it says it can't find any games.

Do I have to do anything with that MONSTER.SOU file? I know the new instructions talk about changing cd audio sound files, but I didn't think the .SOU files counted. Am I missing something? My output talkie file ends up being like 260MB and that makes it take forever to launch scummvm, but it does eventually launch, just doesn't see the game files.

Do I have to put more than just the 2 TENTACLE files and the MONSTER.SOU file in the zip file (with 0.4 those 3 files were the only ones I put in and it worked like a charm)?

stewbidasso wrote:

I have a SuperCard CF and I am also having problems with the talkie version of DOTT. I was able to get the disk version of DOTT working on 0.4 but now that I have 0.5 I basically did the same thing (put the TENTACLE files and MONSTER.SOU file in a non-compressed zip and ran it through builddata).

I then have to rename the output file to a .nds extension. Then I stick it on the card and launch it fromt he menu, and scumm menu comes up and says that the CF is found, but when I try to add a game it says it can't find any games.

Do I have to do anything with that MONSTER.SOU file? I know the new instructions talk about changing cd audio sound files, but I didn't think the .SOU files counted. Am I missing something? My output talkie file ends up being like 260MB and that makes it take forever to launch scummvm, but it does eventually launch, just doesn't see the game files.

Do I have to put more than just the 2 TENTACLE files and the MONSTER.SOU file in the zip file (with 0.4 those 3 files were the only ones
I put in and it worked like a charm)?

the zip file mode is just or normal card.. ( only 30 MB maximum.. so no talkie in this method )

for Gbamp , m3 and supercard just put the game folder in your Cf .. ( NOT THE ZIP FILE )
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luminoth wrote:

Is this everything I need?

Actually, this didn't warrant a post at all, because I'm pretty sure there is a stickied FAQ with your question on it.

I'll help you, though:

Yes, you have the list of components right. However, you can't use a GBAMP with PassMe2, because PassMe2 requires SRAM (which GBAMP lacks). First, you should check to make sure whether you have the old firmware, which PassMe1 is compatible with. If you can use PassMe1, stick with the GBAMP. If you do, in fact, need PassMe2, you will need to get a cart that has SRAM. The two CF adapters that have SRAM are Supercard and M3. You do not need an additional game cart.
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Mr. Picklesworth wrote:

Actually, this didn't warrant a post at all, because I'm pretty sure there is a stickied FAQ with your question on it.

I'll help you, though:

Yes, you have the list of components right. However, you can't use a GBAMP with PassMe2, because PassMe2 requires SRAM (which GBAMP lacks). First, you should check to make sure whether you have the old firmware, which PassMe1 is compatible with. If you can use PassMe1, stick with the GBAMP. If you do, in fact, need PassMe2, you will need to get a cart that has SRAM. The two CF adapters that have SRAM are Supercard and M3. You do not need an additional game cart.

Thanks for replying. I checked my DS serial number against this list and I think I have old firmware, despite having bought my DS a couple of weeks ago (it's a silver DS, United Kingdom, serial number NEF107****3). Hopefully that means I can use the GBAMP with PassMe. But perhaps I should take my queries to the DS Flash Equipment forum (which I just discovered!).

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Dudu.exe wrote:

stewbidasso wrote:

I have a SuperCard CF and I am also having problems with the talkie version of DOTT. I was able to get the disk version of DOTT working on 0.4 but now that I have 0.5 I basically did the same thing (put the TENTACLE files and MONSTER.SOU file in a non-compressed zip and ran it through builddata).

I then have to rename the output file to a .nds extension. Then I stick it on the card and launch it fromt he menu, and scumm menu comes up and says that the CF is found, but when I try to add a game it says it can't find any games.

Do I have to do anything with that MONSTER.SOU file? I know the new instructions talk about changing cd audio sound files, but I didn't think the .SOU files counted. Am I missing something? My output talkie file ends up being like 260MB and that makes it take forever to launch scummvm, but it does eventually launch, just doesn't see the game files.

Do I have to put more than just the 2 TENTACLE files and the MONSTER.SOU file in the zip file (with 0.4 those 3 files were the only ones
I put in and it worked like a charm)?

the zip file mode is just or normal card.. ( only 30 MB maximum.. so no talkie in this method )

for Gbamp , m3 and supercard just put the game folder in your Cf .. ( NOT THE ZIP FILE )

I'm sorry, I don't quite understand what you mean. Are you saying that you only create that zip file with the non-talkie versions, and that I should just place the 2 TENTACLE files and the MONSTER.SOU file on the CF card (not in a zip file)? What do I run the builddata on then if I don't have a zip file with the game files in it? How would I launch SCUMM on my DS if I don't do that? Thanks for your help Dudu.exe.

When you're using CF cards like the Supercard that are directly supported by ScummVM, you don't need to use the Zip file or builddata.bat. Just copy ScummVMCode.ds.gba (renamed to .nds on the Supercard, I think) onto your card and the game data can go in any directory.

When you click Add Game you will be able to browse the directories on the CF to choose the one with the game in it.

luminoth: If you bought your DS with Mariokart, you almost certainly have the new firmware, as that pack is very recent. So you'll need a PassMe2

Aqentq... any chances of a crosshair on hover mode?
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Yeah, that won't be too much of a problem to have the mouse cursor display. I didn't do it originally because I thought it would just get in the way, and you had your pen to show you where you were touching anyway.

I will definately make it optional though.

agentq wrote:

Yeah, that won't be too much of a problem to have the mouse cursor display. I didn't do it originally because I thought it would just get in the way, and you had your pen to show you where you were touching anyway.

It would be nice even as a debugging tool to see if ScummVM isn't reading the touch screen correctly. This seems to be a problem with some DS units.
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Thanks Agentq and Dudu, I got it working last night by just copying the games over and then renaming the scummvm.ds.gba file to scummvm.nds and then launching that and picking the folders that have the game files in them.

I put 2 games on my DS, the talkie version of DOTT and then Monkey Island 2. I loaded DOTT and it worked great. I got past the super battery plans part just to make sure it wasn't going to goof up on the verification part like my disk version did (it went right past it, I knew it would, just thought I'd check). I then saved and used the new keyboard (great addition Agentq, it works perfectly).

Then I turned off and on the DS to load Monkey Island, that seemed to work ok, I had to pass some copy protection screen, but I just entered whatever and it worked and let me into the game. I played just enough to make sure it worked and then turned off the DS.

The next time I turned on the DS to show my wife (she wants to play DOTT, she saw me play it but she's never played it before), the scummvm file was reverted to a .ds.gba extension. I haven't had a chance to go back and rename it .nds, but will try that tonight (I expect it will start working after I do that).

Has anyone else had problems with this file reverting to the original extension? I don't know why it would (I would have guessed that maybe the saving in DOTT rewrote the file to .ds.gba, but I did that before I loaded Monkey Island 2, and it was only after I played Monkey Island 2 that it renamed). Maybe it's just a fluke, I want to go home and rename the file and see if I can recreate the problem to find out what is causing it to revert, but I just didn't have a chance to yet.

Strange.

(I keep DSLinux installed as a filemanager in case if something like that happens :) )

I think I figured it out. I never ran the builddata batch file at all, I just copied over the included ScummVM.nds code, and every time I would save, it would erase the ScummVM.nds and replace it with a file named ScummCMCode.ds.gba, but the file would be 0k.

I think I fixed it by running the builddata batch file (with no scummdata.zip file in there, just running it by itself) and taking the outputed file, renaming it to extension .nds, and then copying that file along with the ScummVMCode.ds.gba file that is 1,320KB into the same directory. Now when I save and play, it doesn't seem to goof it up. I tested it a bunch last night and I think it's working perfectly now.

Did you eject your CF card from your computer before unplugging it?

Running builddata with no zip file will do nothing but copy the ScumMVMCode.ds.gba file to ScummVM.ds.gba. That should make no difference at all.

I guess then that I needed to have a copy of the .nds and the .ds.gba file in there for some reason as that is what seemed to fix it. Running the builddata batch file was an unnecassary step, but the other stuff seems to have fixed it.

i just got back from my holiday (vacation) and i was like 'waaaa' 0.5 is out at last after all that waiting but sadly i saw that sd still needs support i have only SD:(.
anyway im still happy about this release il still keep playing the games that are under 30megs the keyboard system is kool now now i can name my saves :D.
thanks agentq.

just a questions

do games like simon the sorcerer work?

Hi @ll,

ScummVM DS 0.4 is working on M3 SD,
but the good new features and bugfixes are only with 0.5 =(

Quote:

Great new things in 0.5 but can?t use because only 0.4 works on M3 SD
# An on-screen keyboard to name saves
# Interact with the zoomed view by swapping the screens over with X
# Zoom in/out by holding L and pressing A or B
# Scroll the screen with the pen while holding L
# Improved the way the zoomed view follows the talking character
# Music support in FM TOWNS games
# Sound volume improved, and sound glitching fixed

I hope a new version comes soon or is there anyone out there who can change this in the sourcecode of 0.5

Plz, Plz, plz... =(

Greetz,
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Nobody can change the source code without the information on the hardware docs. So you should be asking the makers of the M3, and not me. Until they release the docs there's little chance of it being supported by any homebrew.

Although you should be able to use the flashcart version. I'm not sure why that doesn't work, since it should treat the M3 as a normal Flashcart. Can anyone else with an M3 SD give any tips?

Hey I've read that support for games such as FullThrottle and The DiG wont get support because of the memory they use is just too much.

I had an idea lastnight which may be total bull - but I'm gonna voice it anyway :P

I'm guesing the memory gets eaten up by large image files and audio tracks - so how about a on-the-fly image compression system? When a call is made to load an image, the image is converted to a smaller format - one thats scaled to the 256*192 screen, at 16bit (or 8bit if the source is already) and uses whatever image format would be small in memory. It way well inscreas load times quite a bit, but its an idea...

feel free to tell me how wrong I am :D

Hi,

with 0.4 i can play some of the games,
but with 0.5 i get 2 error msgs.

1. there is no CF card
2. there is no zip file

i don?t want play games over 30mb, only the normal ones with text, like monkey 1 & 2 without extra audio

they work with 0.4, but not in 0.5, there comes every time the same error =(

Greetz,
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you might not want games over 30meg capability but nearly all the SD comunity are awaiting it have done so since we heard about scummvm ds and its capabitlites. we applaud agentq on his work and fast perfectionism on this project probably the best emulator for the Ds is scummvm DS and it would really be appreciated if we had the capability to play games over 30megs.
As soon as i can help the agent find a good source for SD i will reply but im kinda of a n00b on this subject.
and another thing that can be fixed until the 30 meg rule is broken is saving capability im sure alot of us are tired of using the QVC method on the SD.

agentq wrote:

Although you should be able to use the flashcart version. I'm not sure why that doesn't work, since it should treat the M3 as a normal Flashcart. Can anyone else with an M3 SD give any tips?

This may be because gba_nds_fat tests for an M3 CF version using the M3 CF unlock sequence. If this is the same sequence as used on the SD version, then it will disable the M3's internal RAM.
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wow i never knew this stuff was this hard.

anyway i found another problem the zak mckraken fm towns version i cant seem to scroll down the items maybe we can make it scrollable?

chishm wrote:

This may be because gba_nds_fat tests for an M3 CF version using the M3 CF unlock sequence. If this is the same sequence as used on the SD version, then it will disable the M3's internal RAM.

Has anyone found the sequence to undo the M3 CF unlock sequence?
I need it for dslinux.

pepsiman wrote:

chishm wrote:

This may be because gba_nds_fat tests for an M3 CF version using the M3 CF unlock sequence. If this is the same sequence as used on the SD version, then it will disable the M3's internal RAM.

Has anyone found the sequence to undo the M3 CF unlock sequence?
I need it for dslinux.

could you not set it back to what it was before it was unlocked?

A possible solution to this would be to search for the Zip file in ROM address space before unlocking the CF cards. Then if a zip file was found we wouldn't perform the unlock sequence.

g00gy: it seems the FM-towns games are a different resolution and the screen is cut off at the bottom. I'm going to have to look into that for the next version.

And yes, this stuff is pretty hard. It has been a lot of work getting things to work as well as they do.

Currently Simon the Sorceror doesn't work, but in a future release it could, along with Beneith a Steel Sky and perhaps some of the others. I would need to make a separate .ds.gba/.nds file for it though as it can't be built into the same file because of the limited memory available.

agentq wrote:

A possible solution to this would be to search for the Zip file in ROM address space before unlocking the CF cards. Then if a zip file was found we wouldn't perform the unlock sequence.

But wouldn't a GBFS style linear probe lock up the GBAMP? Or does that only apply to the firmware?
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tepples wrote:

But wouldn't a GBFS style linear probe lock up the GBAMP? Or does that only apply to the firmware?

Only applies to the firmware.
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El Hobito wrote:

could you not set it back to what it was before it was unlocked?

That's what I want to do, any idea how?

I have an SD M3. I understand that 0.5 does not work and that people are resorting to 0.4 which does work. What I don't understand is what I'm doing wrong. 0.5 is the only version that will even load up. I copy over the 0.4 .nds file and a scummdata.zip and go to load it up and the M3 software gives me a "System parameter fail! System will be shut down!" error. Same thing happens with 0.3. Anyone get this error and know how to fix it?

Also I tried building the .gba file, copying all the gba files over and trying to work this through the gba mode but it loads the rom and gets stuck at a black screen. :(

I'm doomed to a SCUMMVM DSless existence I think. :'(
Any pointers would be greatly appreciated.

In addition to my last post i have another question:

Does it really make a difference if i use flashme? i've ran ds roms and gba roms with my m3 and passkey without it. do i really need it for scummvm ds?

chishm wrote:

agentq wrote:

Although you should be able to use the flashcart version. I'm not sure why that doesn't work, since it should treat the M3 as a normal Flashcart. Can anyone else with an M3 SD give any tips?

This may be because gba_nds_fat tests for an M3 CF version using the M3 CF unlock sequence. If this is the same sequence as used on the SD version, then it will disable the M3's internal RAM.

Hang on a minute though why does it disable the internal ram? you can use them both at the same time in its firmware since how else would it be able to load roms larger than 4 megs? perhaps theres a different code for enabling both?

El Hobito wrote:

chishm wrote:

agentq wrote:

Although you should be able to use the flashcart version. I'm not sure why that doesn't work, since it should treat the M3 as a normal Flashcart. Can anyone else with an M3 SD give any tips?

This may be because gba_nds_fat tests for an M3 CF version using the M3 CF unlock sequence. If this is the same sequence as used on the SD version, then it will disable the M3's internal RAM.

Hang on a minute though why does it disable the internal ram? you can use them both at the same time in its firmware since how else would it be able to load roms larger than 4 megs? perhaps theres a different code for enabling both?

I seem to remember hearing that it requires a different unlock sequence to be able to use the RAM at the same time as the CF card.
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ROMs could easily be loaded by copying them in to the internal RAM a meg at a time, disabling the CF card, then copying it to the M3's RAM. There's no need for both to be active at once.

Since 32Mb of on board RAM would fill the entire cart address space, there would be no room for the CF registers. Unless these were mapped into Save RAM space or something like that.

ahh so does this mean there will be a hope for Direct file system support with SC SD? and is it a complicated procedure?

This has nothing to do with direct file system support on the SC SD.

But since you asked, I am going to see if someone else integrates the code with the FAT driver before my next release is ready. If nobody does it, I might give it a go.

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agentq wrote:

ROMs could easily be loaded by copying them in to the internal RAM a meg at a time, disabling the CF card, then copying it to the M3's RAM. There's no need for both to be active at once.

Since 32Mb of on board RAM would fill the entire cart address space, there would be no room for the CF registers. Unless these were mapped into Save RAM space or something like that.

if it did that though wouldnt there be a delay? it would load a bit stop then load a bit more, but it doesnt it loads rather smoothly. It could well be possible that the loading is done all internally, so therefore the address space of the gba port would be irrelevant. Also it writes to the cf card when saving to sram surely would it cause it to mess up if it disabled the ram if it doesnt all i can say i'm amazined such a hacky method works so well.

in any case surely the method you describe would be adequate for ds linux's use?

maybe theres a way to allow the zip file to be compressed and be read from the program that way we can play games under 30megs. or is the uncompression hard. becuase this will also save loading time on the SD and CF

agentq wrote:

ROMs could easily be loaded by copying them in to the internal RAM a meg at a time, disabling the CF card, then copying it to the M3's RAM. There's no need for both to be active at once.

Since 32Mb of on board RAM would fill the entire cart address space, there would be no room for the CF registers. Unless these were mapped into Save RAM space or something like that.

Hm...there was some talk, on the chinese M3 website apparently, of them putting into place a system of directly reading games from the compact flash and caching files in the built in RAM....I'd think this would require access to both the CF and RAM at the same time since it'd be pretty bad if the game froze up while some file was being transfered to RAM...if this was something that wasn't possible I don't know why they would be talking about doing this.

But who knows...I guess I'm just hoping (wishful thinking ^_^)that you can use the CF and the RAM at the same time somehow since it would enhance some DS homebrew like ScummVM DS since it sounds like it's hitting some limitations on the RAM of the DS.
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is the ds even capable of emulating sog or so3 im just curious

g00gy wrote:

is the ds even capable of emulating sog or so3 im just curious

Sog is SOU converted to OGG

and SO3 is SOU converted to Mp3

and moonshell plays this kind of file easely
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Dudu.exe wrote:

g00gy wrote:

is the ds even capable of emulating sog or so3 im just curious

Sog is SOU converted to OGG

and SO3 is SOU converted to Mp3

and moonshell plays this kind of file easely

But whether or not ScummVM could play these and run the game at the same time remains to be seen. I'm guessing not.

what about converting to .WAV im not sure im kinds new to this stuff but it might be possible

What does WAV mean to you?

WAV isn't an encoder format, and can hold almost any kind of sample format, including many that are worse than the one Scumm games use, which I think is some kind of ADPCM.

o sorry didnt really know, as i said im new to this stuff.

anyway i doubt making it compatible with sog or so3 is a must id imagine the SCSD is enough of a problem as it is.

it still amazes me that the DS can emulate such an excellent system with no flaws while it cant even emulate snes or genisis (slowdowns)

g00gy wrote:

o sorry didnt really know, as i said im new to this stuff.

anyway i doubt making it compatible with sog or so3 is a must id imagine the SCSD is enough of a problem as it is.

it still amazes me that the DS can emulate such an excellent system with no flaws while it cant even emulate snes or genisis (slowdowns)

it emulates many snes games fine(SNESDS).Once the emulator is updated,expect to play all SNES games almost perfectly(exept chipped games ala Starfox etc).
and there isn't a playable genesis emulator for DS yet.Just a proof of concept by liraluna.But I'm pretty sure that the DS would emulate genesis fine too.if only there wasn't this stupid resolution of the genesis.
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so its not really the ds thats at fault just that people developing for it mainly do it as a hobby.

anyway this is pretty off topic so... how do people find scummvm? i think its near perfect, i havent had a chance to test the audio to the max (im an SD user)

so thatll do from me,

linus

i would say yeah scummvmds is in my belief the best emulator for the DS everything is perfect but since im also an SD user i havent had chance to try out the talkies. its amazing what the agent seems to have done thanks to him he keeps on perfecting it

Yup, Scumm DS is amazing :)
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I love all the homebrew projects, really. They're all great and are a direct indication of how much love developers really put into these non-profit projects.

With ScummVM, we see a project that truly has started from scratch to its final (or near-final) stage. I played through DoTT and Sam n' Max so far and I loved every minute of it. Even though I'm busy with coursework and tests, I try to fit in some Monkey Island time, too.

Really, agentq probably thinks of this as just a side-project, but it seriously has provided tons of us DS-owners with genuine nostalgic entertainment. And for that, the scene is deeply entrenched in debt to him.
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i just cant wait and would love it when il be able to play talkie becuase im an SD user.

and as the agent said that other scummvm games like BASS or simon the sorceror will become playable it will truly be the best DS emu

well i wasnt gonna say anything but scummvm 0.5 works on the SD with the latest fat driver from moonshell.

ive told agentq and hopefully he'll make a release.

wow really so if i run scummvm 0.5 on moonshell now the talkies will work?

Linus, you wouldnt be able to send me an nds file compiled for SC SD would you? I've tried doing it myself, twice, but i always get errors

g00gy wrote:

wow really so if i run scummvm 0.5 on moonshell now the talkies will work?

Nope you have to get the source of moonshell, take out the fat driver put it into the source of scummvm.

Critical_Impact:

Yeah I couldnt get it either at first, I needed to add the following lines into disc_io.h just below the header #includes:

#ifdef __cplusplus
extern "C" {
#endif

And the following lines just before the final #endif

#ifdef __cplusplus
}
#endif

If you still cant get it to work ill give you a link - but im a bit dubious because I dont want people to download an unofficial version (its not my app) and a version thats not tested.

Im getting some echo on the voices in sam n max im going to try a slightly different version of the moonshell source.

Let me know how you get on!

Linus, thanks for that but im getting other errors, my arm7 builds fine but i get a whole bunch of "volatile struct sTransferRegion" has no member named 'adpcm'

If you could send the compiled version to criticalimpact@gmail.com that'd be great, im gonna keep working on the errors im having anyway, i think i had these errors last time.

yeah those errors are because he uses a different version of ipc.h go to ur nds lib and rename ipc.h to something else and then the compiler will use his one

also i had to edit the makefile from this:
SFILES := $(foreach dir,$(SOURCES),$(notdir $(wildcard $(dir)/*.s)))

to this to include the scsd.s file

SFILES := $(foreach dir,$(SOURCES),$(wildcard $(dir)/*.s))

bear in mind this is the arm9 makefile.

ill send you the file anyway - but its a worthwhile exercise getting this to compile

Alright its gotten past those errors, thank you very much linus

are you getting dodgey sound? i think this moonshell fat uses cpu rather than dma so it slows things down. i dont have one of the moonshell tests that used dma (i dont even know if they worked for the SCSD) and theyre all gone now :(

Yes i get echoed sound too :(

so if it uses the moonshell fat it can play mp3 in the scummvm games.
hope fully the echoed sound problem is fixable though

maybe someone could tell us step by step how to get talkies running on SD just to test it out and im sure some other SD users have gotten impatient

your misunderstanding what the fat driver does - it just gets files from the media card - it doesnt have anything to do with scummvm or moonshell.

it doesnt work very well at the mo so there isnt much point giving out the compiled version. but i believe agentq will be on the case soon :)

is removing the echo even possible will the moonshell team let us edit there source code?

The moonshell team has nothing to do with this, the fat driver has nothing to do with this, the echoing sound bug is caused probably by the way scummvm ds reads sd cards and only agentq can fix this. Wait for him to release a new version and it should probably support sc sd and m3 sd maybe

Just some quick questions about scaling/zooming views...

What difference do "Fullscreen mode" and "Aspect ratio correction" make when you check them off?

Also, is there any way to make the 'zoomed view' show at 1:1? What I'd like is to have the touch screen in its 'squished' complete view, and the other screen scrolling around as usual, but without it being all pixelated from being zoomed-in slightly... it doesn't seem to zoom all the way out, is all.

My last question is just out of curiosity: What was the original resolution of Monkey Island I + II, and, was it intended to be viewed with square pixels..? The graphics seem to look better-proportionned on 'squished' mode, despite all the missing pixels... is it my imagination, or was there actually a time when the standard computer screen resolution didn't use square pixels?

Thanks so much :) I'm completely in awe of ScummVM DS, I can't believe how well it works...

Also, is there a compatability list anywhere? For example, are any non-Lucas games supported, such as Inherit The Earth?

CGA, EGA, and VGA games typically ran in 320x200 pixels, which when displayed on a 4:3 screen gives 5:6 pixel aspect ratio.
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EGA video cards offered a resolution of 640x350 in 16 colours. There were no 320x200 modes on it apart from the 4 colour one provided by it's backwards compatibility with CGA.

Either way, definately not square on a 4:3 monitor... dang, I always *thought* everything looked a bit wide when I played Monkey Island II on my mac :P

In that case, I withdraw my request for a 1:1 pixel display on the top screen, I get what it's doing now. ;)

Hello, AgentQ, how's the project going?

I'm really looking forwards to so3 and sog support since 256 MB is way to much for a 512MB card :/

For now - does anyone know a way to convert so3 back to sou?

I asked the same question on the ScummVM boards, but they said that currently there's no way and they won't develop a way either, because that'd support the pirated versions of the games.

"A pirate I was meant to be, trim the sails and roam the sea!"
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Yup. Saw that post of yours :)

i wonder if this project has been stalled

well agentq was pretty quick to help me get a version working with SD, he helped me fix that echo as well. i dont know of much that needs to be done to the emulator but i wouldnt think the project is stalled.

really can you give me the one without the echo please? :)

So it's possible to play with a SC SD or not?
Thanx

ever since i updated ndslib to include the new touchscreen code people have been saying the games dont play but heres scummvm compiled for SCSD with working sound (for me)

http://s60.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2TJRJW5A2GLDK2H9GT35R3T1VW

That worked for me too, but touchscreen accuracy is bad in this case... Does this file has the touch libraries updated???

The project is not stalled. It's only a month and a half since the last release you know.

And there are other less important things that I have to do, like my job.

agentq wrote:

The project is not stalled. It's only a month and a half since the last release you know.

And there are other less important things that I have to do, like my job.

Less important or more important?

It feels less important, but I have to do it or I won't be able to eat. ;-)

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It feels less important, but I have to do it or I won't be able to eat.

when the next release is here i will buy you a bucket of chicken

Every day without a new release gives greater impetus to the joy of the day that the new release shall come.

*wipes tears*... I'm almost TOO poetic at times.
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linus wrote:

ever since i updated ndslib to include the new touchscreen code people have been saying the games dont play but heres scummvm compiled for SCSD with working sound (for me)

http://s60.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2TJRJW5A2GLDK2H9GT35R3T1VW

i just get a black screen when i load anygame and when i try to start scummvm again it doesnt start i have to delete the ini file and im back to square one ????

g00gy wrote:

linus wrote:

ever since i updated ndslib to include the new touchscreen code people have been saying the games dont play but heres scummvm compiled for SCSD with working sound (for me)

http://s60.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2TJRJW5A2GLDK2H9GT35R3T1VW

i just get a black screen when i load anygame and when i try to start scummvm again it doesnt start i have to delete the ini file and im back to square one ????

Same for me

linus wrote:

ever since i updated ndslib to include the new touchscreen code people have been saying the games dont play but heres scummvm compiled for SCSD with working sound (for me)

http://s60.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2TJRJW5A2GLDK2H9GT35R3T1VW

How do you save with this scummvm version?

I'm curious if anyone has had luck with scummvm on the supercard sd, i've been watching this project for a while but i've not been able to participate cause i'm an sd owner :( Is there an official word on a port ?

Raventyr wrote:

I'm curious if anyone has had luck with scummvm on the supercard sd, i've been watching this project for a while but i've not been able to participate cause i'm an sd owner :( Is there an official word on a port ?

Yes, it works fairly well using the zip method. The other version (native SD) works perfect, but I don't know how to save.

It doesn't seem to work for me :(

Apoc wrote:

Raventyr wrote:

I'm curious if anyone has had luck with scummvm on the supercard sd, i've been watching this project for a while but i've not been able to participate cause i'm an sd owner :( Is there an official word on a port ?

Yes, it works fairly well using the zip method. The other version (native SD) works perfect, but I don't know how to save.

no it doesnt work perfectly alot of people are experiancing just a blank screen. to save i think you must use the QVC method

g00gy wrote:

Apoc wrote:

Raventyr wrote:

I'm curious if anyone has had luck with scummvm on the supercard sd, i've been watching this project for a while but i've not been able to participate cause i'm an sd owner :( Is there an official word on a port ?

Yes, it works fairly well using the zip method. The other version (native SD) works perfect, but I don't know how to save.

no it doesnt work perfectly alot of people are experiancing just a blank screen. to save i think you must use the QVC method

Usually the ones getting blank screen are those who use passme. Once you flash the ds all the problems go away. This is what we (at a spanish forum) tested. Maybe you have other problems and I can't help you with them.

My DS is flashed. I am new to the DS mod scene though and I'm having trouble figuring out the exact way to get scumm working off my supercard sd.

Apoc wrote:

g00gy wrote:

Apoc wrote:

Raventyr wrote:

I'm curious if anyone has had luck with scummvm on the supercard sd, i've been watching this project for a while but i've not been able to participate cause i'm an sd owner :( Is there an official word on a port ?

Yes, it works fairly well using the zip method. The other version (native SD) works perfect, but I don't know how to save.

no it doesnt work perfectly alot of people are experiancing just a blank screen. to save i think you must use the QVC method

Usually the ones getting blank screen are those who use passme. Once you flash the ds all the problems go away. This is what we (at a spanish forum) tested. Maybe you have other problems and I can't help you with them.

Im not new to this stuff, my ds is flashed with the newest firmware i have used scummvm before, and yet i still seems to experiance problems with this unofficial release.

g00gy wrote:

Im not new to this stuff, my ds is flashed with the newest firmware i have used scummvm before, and yet i still seems to experiance problems with this unofficial release.

It's the same to me and I haven't got any problem with other supercard sd homebrew.

yeah the problems only seem to be occuring since I updated ndslib, heres an old version

http://s60.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2LPV3TH86LHQR14NTCE4V4I7FE

People who are getting black screens see if this version works better. Im sorry that im not able to do much about this - I really cant get those black screens, I was hoping it was just a PassMe thing but apparently not.

For me everything works fine on the SD except for saving (which when I get more time I might look into)

edit also try this one which should have the new touch code

http://s50.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0EVQFTR4UT79605085DBTF8BVN

ps sorry about all the testers

yep works great job linus

errr which one?

the bottom hopefully has touchscreen code, the top doesnt

ive only tried the bottom with touchscreen code which works pretty well. i havent tried the top one out yet. you cant save though even with the QPC method.

yeah thats cool if the bottom ones working thats all i need to know, you dont know to worry about the top one its just an old version.

SC SD Version with new touchcode works great for me. Anyway, isn't there a way to save savestates? even config isn't saved os SD.

Thanx

linus, thx for the nice work.
Can i play with this talkie versions too?

edit:

i has got sc sd

knetzel wrote:

linus, thx for the nice work.
Can i play with this talkie versions too?

edit:

i has got sc sd

Just tried Indiana Jones: Fate of Atlantis (Talkie version) from SuperCard SD, and it works fine.
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wish i could save though :p

the version with the new touch code works good on my M3 SD =)

Great work

Thx =)
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I have noticed a little problem now that I've played a little bit more, it's about touch accuracy. I have one of those DSes for which previous touchscreen code didn't work. With new code from libnds, apps such as moonshell, ds2win works great, but with scummvm, if I touch anywhere, is af if I touch somewhere a little bit to left... 1 or 2 mm.... it's very strange... not a calibration neither screen protector issue...

Ideas?

uhm works saving with sc sd now too?
i hope so

Nope no saving yet. I suspect the DS_fwrite function is not working which is why saving or writing the ini file doesnt work anymore unfortunately I dont know whether its an SD problem or just a writing problem with the latest fat driver. If anyone has a CF media device it would be helpful if you could see if the saving/ini writing works with the last version posted.

Ill keep looking through, but I dont have a lot time at the mo (stupid third year project)

Okay, that`s bad.
But really nice work, now all can play with the 0.5 version.

Its a chance to save in the future with SD cards?
without saving, its not real fun:-(

its actually working with sound but i guess the only person that can save us now from this save problem is the agent where are you Q!

I'm here, but I can't do anything about a broken FAT driver, since I don't have an M3 or SC.

yeah leave the poor guy unlike many of hes got a job! :) hehe. Well there were huge changes to the fat code in moonshell 992 unfortunately the SD code is broken so hopefully when its fixed I might have more luck with the saving.

linus wrote:

Well there were huge changes to the fat code in moonshell 992 unfortunately the SD code is broken so hopefully when its fixed I might have more luck with the saving.

I'm running v0.992 on Supercard SD and it works fine, so NOT broken in v0.992, just broken in v0.992 test 1 .
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yeah but test1 is the only one with the updated fat, sorry i should have been more clear

Yeah figured that..

If you read the gba_nds_fat.txt file...

TODO:
* Fix Supercard SD support
* Add M3 SD support

So I guess maybe MoonLight/MoonShell forgot to add it when he picked up gba_nds_fat_2006-02-09 library.
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have you tried out test 2 yet?

yar it writes the saves and the ini but it writes them as jibberish. it may be because i put it in wrong (i didnt copy all the files and i think there were more changes than just to SD) but I think its best to wait until the drivers stablised a bit and the SD C code is back in.

edit: nope not because i glued it wrong, its just writes jibberish

Linus: Did you ever try putting the SCUMM data in a subfolder in the version everyone else was having problems with? For example, game data in ROOT:\SCUMM\MonkeyIsland, and the .nds file in ROOT:\ or ROOT:\SCUMM?

nope why? those problems were fixed - it was just because i didnt recompile the arm7 code properly, but still it was wierd that it seemed to work for me and no one else.

The non-saving version worked fine and loaded sam n max at 63mb. Updated touch code version works perfectly, shame about the 32mb scummdata.zip restriction though. Nice work !

*Moonshell 0.999 is out with gba_nds_fat_2006-02-09.*

yeah maybe the new 0.999moonshell can fix the saving problem

I think that is the broken library though :( But progress seems to be flying, we are so close now i can almost taste it ! And it tastes like love !

Any progress news folks ?

why does the game Full throttle not working :( :cry:

HtheB wrote:

why does the game Full throttle not working :( :cry:

Because NO support is in the ScumVM DS version.

It's removed, it needed to much memory to run.
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Mithos wrote:

HtheB wrote:

why does the game Full throttle not working :( :cry:

Because NO support is in the ScumVM DS version.

It's removed, it needed to much memory to run.

hmm.. how much ram does the game need?

there must be a way to start that game..... (delete background music???)

HtheB wrote:

hmm.. how much ram does the game need?

there must be a way to start that game..... (delete background music???)

No sure, but DS has 4Megabyte ov RAM, Scumm-engine is about 1,3Megabyte, so that leaves 2,7 Megabyte of ram (MAX) for game to use.

It is probably even less memory free for the game to use, I'm not 100% sure.
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Can the latest version with M3SD be posted again as the previous links expired. Thanks.

VanillaIcee wrote:

Can the latest version with M3SD be posted again as the previous links expired. Thanks.

I need it too :) please :) tnq ^_^

Sorry i dont have them anymore, when i get the saving working ill post again

So I took the source code to 0.5 and modified it myself. Now I can load folders and play on an M3SD. If anyone wants the file I can email it to them. I do have some questions.

1. Touchscreen is off, as others have reported in this thread. Where can I find code that fixes this so I can implement it as others have?
2. Sounds/Voices play great (Day of the Tentacle Talkie) but they are slighty garbled. Is this normal behaviour? Any solutions? Is it related to reading speed of SD (because I doubt it is DMA).
3. Has anyone implemented M3SD write calls (I didn't find any in moonshell) and if not, where would I start in figuring them out?
4. AgentQ, have you done any work supporting M3SD or have you mainly worked on the scummvm nds backend? I wonder because I'd like to help to get the next version working on the M3SD.

Thanks.

Hi VanillaIcee,

I haven't done any work to support SD cards, as I don't have a reader myself (well, I have a Mk3 but it seems like it's not the greatest piece of kit on the planet), and I'm not going to even try doing this blind, I don't have the slightest chance of success.

However, if you, linus, cory1942, or anyone else gets chishm's FAT driver working on the M3CF/M3SD I will of course stick it in the next version of ScummVM DS. The changes should be limited to the FAT driver, I would have thought. Good luck with that!

If the sounds sound garbled, the first thing I would check is that the FAT driver is not writing to WAIT_CR. Comment those lines out if it is. The GBAMP driver doesn't use DMA and is plenty fast enough for talkies. If the card speed is the issue you will hear a glitch as a sentance starts to play - the whole sentance is read into RAM and played from there.

The code to fix the touch screen is in the latest libnds. Linking with that will use whatever method it has, although ScummVM does contain code to ignore the first frame the pen is held on, to avoid some dodgy debouncing I was getting. This shouldn't interfere with the new code though. I'm going to have a go at that sometime this week for the new version.

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